Why not just make the center piece an interchangeable piece? Make multiples that are either made to be changed out for different angles or different bevel cuts?
Drew and Mark, y'all have got to bring this to market. Both of you should patent this thing because the need for intelligent dust collection for chop saws is HUGE! F Drew, when I saw yours I was thinking I have to make one of those but just don't have the time. Mark, more seeing how yours can combine with Drew's, there's just too big of a need for this. I've installed floors on 2 sorry houses and have such a terrible time with dust from laminate flooring I increased my butt muscles to disproportionate sizes going up and down the stairs 10 billion times. With a fence/dust collector like this I can cut inside and save my backside and hamstrings with increased productivity. I know it sounds lazy but time is money. Plus, with Mark's idea of slivers of pieces y'all can make it modular for nesting 6" crown with combined mitered and beveled cuts. Slide one out, slide the other in to fit different cutting purposes.
Fantastic Idea of a Dust Collector. To replace the factory parts gives up the space needed to introduce a this complete new way to collect all of the stuff you want to get rid of. As a metal worker, i would reproduce this thing in my familiar environment which is steel😎. Thanx a lot for this unusual but more than interesting way to solve a problem which most of the miter saw users have. Stay save and healthy. ✌️👏👏👏🇩🇪😎
And it's "first to file" now in the US. Publishing on RUclips severely limits your ability to patent but someone like FastCap would probably jump all over this with a licensing agreement.
Great idea. I think I'll try my hand at it, changing construction technique to using plywood to create a box, the inside acting as the airflow tube, and just drilling holes in the face to create the grid.
I don't know if either of you will read this, but I'd suggest making the center top and front out of 1/4" mdf and detachable, a sacrificial part. One of mdf's properties is that it dulls blades less than "real wood". If I decide to make 1, that's how i will do it. A box in center with top and front as above, a 2 1/2" hole at the end of the box. The other half, an L in cross section. For my use, a tape mounted above the T track, and fence extension mountable to it, probably by french cleat with a c clamp.
Your design is definitely innovative. You put a ton of thought into it, and I like how you were very detailed with your explanation of the different pieces and really making this overall project not seem so overwhelming. I also like how you have a stop block system that works for really short cuts, that isn't something you see on other saws without a dedicated spacer block to the miter saw station fence. Great job, and the color matching makes it look like a factory upgrade!
I did something nearly identical and it works amazing. I actually have small holes in the zero clearance base plate (all the way out to the miter handle) along with the back fence plate and this holds the work piece down and back against the fence when my dust collector is on and more importantly provides amazing air flow. Mine is taller goes all the up to the bottom of the saw (actually removed the black bracket), on yours there is that small pocket on either side of the blade (vertical portion) I have zero clearance on the bottom and all the way up the fence backing with a series of holes next to it. This allows zero clearance to eliminate tear out, the holes provide suction to the workpiece holding it in place, and there is essentially no dust that escapes.
I had a 10" Dewalt compound miter saw for around 12 years (light duty). It still works great ruclips.net/user/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe but I wanted something bigger. My only complaint about the 10" was the location of the motor, and this version fixes that issue. The XPS system works well. My only request for future versions is a dust collection port (or adapter) that fits large shop vac hoses (or standard PVC pipe fittings) a little better. But that's not a complaint, just a request.
If I could have a dust free shop that would be an amazing goal. This is definitely one of those tools that would be a challenge to get dust free, but you've got a really good start. I love the use of the cnc to make it happen. Cool project.
Thanks Chad! This was a fun challenge. It has some room for improvement, but it's a great feeling to get a wacky idea out of your brain and make it real!
Love it! Nice job matching the color to hide the MDF too! A skim coat of Bondo prior to paint would've further smoothed the surface and made it look like metal too. I would look o make the middle section indexed and replaceable (just like a throat plate on the table saw). I, like you, would hesitate EVERY time I had to cut a new angle and it would drive me crazy! If it was replaceable, I'd just cut it up and continue to procrastinate making a new middle section FOREVER!
I was thinking along the same line of thought as you. Right when he said there are 42 pieces I thought for sure he was going to make it modular to slide off parts for nesting 6" crown with beveled and mitered cuts.
I did Franks design on my Radial Arm saw and it works fantastic. I have the new Makita miter saw that needs some love in the dust collection department. This is brilliant.
I've been hearing about this for a while, and seeing it work and how it all came together was so cool! I think it really helped how you had each of the sections cut out and explained what they were for and why they were shaped like that. Plus, the paint really looks great! It hurt me too when you would cut into it. Great video!
I think you are on the right track! I had mentioned in a comment to Drew that I was considering using the exhaust of the vacuum to guide the dust into a dust chute so the vacuum could suck it up; so in your case it might be just the thing to force the dust down into your fence. Maybe just a matter of hooking the exhaust up to your original port on the saw? Thanks for the great videos!
I definitely believe it has a lot of good potential! Keep on with the improvements that you have whirling around from this build (at least that is what it looked like to me). Let those creative wheels keep rolling and see where they will take you. You are inspiring others to also take up the challenge to create a better fence/dust control solution for their miter saws. Thank You!
There might be better dust collections methods out there but having a system you designed using some newer technology will most likely lead to some great projects. This is a great " lets try this" project and a definite learning piece.
Thanks Mike! That is exactly what this was in my mind - "let's try this." Most of the time when I do that, it ends up in small smoldering piles in the yard - this was a happy success!
Wow! I’ve watched about a dozen of these in the past week and this is a masterpiece, sir. I was pretty excited about taming my miter dust situation this weekend, but this video made me realize I need to take some time planning this. Temporary solution: I’m just gonna roll my miter table outside, haha
Brilliant! You young whippersnappers are always coming up with better methods!! Definitely worthwhile improvement to the ubiquitous miter saw. Jointech had a similar design for router tables, but that design would not work for the complex geometry of a miter saw. Bravo Mark!
Great Job! I will take this Idea for my own Development. The Middlepart will be changeable, because it will be destroyed over the time of Using with several Saw-Angles. I will use MPX-Birchwood for the Fence. 👍🏻
I love how you did think outside the box for a solution to this problem this mitre saw brand has man.I'd love to have you do a review on your solution to this issue with this brand of mitre saw.
Thanks Philip! I plan on just using it for a little while, that's how I will find the shortcomings in my design. Once I am happy with any improvements I'll maybe do a followup video and try some Math just like Drew did.
This is super brilliant. you should contact Bosch and sell them the idea. maybe they could make it out of extruded aluminum. with a replaceable center for when it gets chewed up. love the idea. keep up the excellent work.
Wonder if you could make it so that the part that gets cut up by the saw is replaceable. So you make a bunch of them and as they get worn out you can pull the old one out and pop a fresh one one in. Great job. Cool idea. Love the one frank howarth did too. And fisher’s is cool too.
Man, I just found your channel and I'm hooked. I sold my workshop to move, but I'm getting it back this year. There's a LOT of thought you're putting into this and that's cool. Look forward to checking out future videos. I saw the video with your wife and kids. BEAUTIFUL family man. Your kids are too cute. My son (9 years old) helps me out too.
Now it makes sense! I had no idea what you were describing on the podcast, but as soon as I saw it here, it clicked. This is very neat, and you nailed that paint job!
Its a really tricky thing to try and explain without visuals! The paint job turned out so surprisingly good that it brought a tear to my eye when I finally cut through it.
I love your thought process here Mark, and the design looks really good. I think you have a winner here. I did see Frank Howarth's video as well and his dust collection is a great functioning solution. Thanks for sharing my friend.
Thanks for the kind words Felix! I thought about keeping this a secret while I tried to perfect it, but that's just not my style. I'm hoping somebody can take this idea and help me improve it.
You have a very innovative idea and did a fantastic job bringing it to life. That said, it would have been REALLY helpful to see some actual comparison of with/without on dust collection.
I think it looks great. Looked to be very little dust escaping too. I also bet the new versions of high end saws will someday incorporate some form of dust collection in the fence or base.
great to see thinking on your feet with the spline, when your hard planning was giving results that were not good enough. its a fun topic to be looking at, worth the effort id say
A very good improvement of other ideas. And good on you for giving credit to the people who gave impetus to your idea. When I first saw ( no pun intended) the thumbnail for this video I thought you made a metal fence for the saw due to the paint color. Nicely done. Ron
This would be a super cool 3D printing project. I would think the plastic would be more stable than the MDF. I like this a lot! Get your patent in now, sir! Very cool!
I've thought the same thing. How much do you think that thing would cost as a 3D print? I also thought about the possibility of an aluminum extrusion that just has the saw kerfs pre-cut into it.
@@GunflintDesigns I have no idea. :) I haven't done any 3D printing, but I would bet you could easily sell the 3D printing files online, as well as your CNC files for the MDF version. Aluminum sounds really cool, but I would think you'd run into more issues with everybody's saw being just a little different. Go make the 3D version and patent that thing now, or Kreg will be selling them next week! :D
I didn't try to read all 291 comments so hopefully not repeating something. Great start to a way to make a more compact and capable dust collector. Seems you have an inch of room between the saw and the system you made. Thought of making it slightly taller to help prevent the dust from going by? Also, might be a good idea to just make something that hangs over the cuts slightly that could prevent dust from going over if that makes sense.
Great concept and execution! I would suggest trying Medex - exterior grade, water resistant MDF. It is harder and stronger than MDF and machines nicely. Oh and just a thought if you develop this great idea further; you might consider integrating as small as possible sacrificial insert that could be replaced whenever it wears out or sustains damage from a kick, etc. I think this is an idea well worth developing further, kudos!
That's awesome. I was a bit neutral on it until you painted it, then it was "HOLY COW THIS IS GENIUS"! haha. I like overly complicated solutions, maybe I'll take a crack at a design too.
Look nice once painted and on top, color matched. You learned MDF delaminates easily and doesn’t have a constant density throughout its thickness, enhance the trouble facing it on the jointer. I wouldn’t be surprised your fence split again if by any bad luck a piece of wood you cut decides to kick... once in 10 years event.
Great idea and concept my Woodworking background is. Mostly involved with the onsite installation of Architectual Woodwork and improving dust collection not only has health benefits but it would seriously improve Customers opinions on keeping the fine dust to a minimum. I could see this type of a product being a big seller especially if you. Offered kits for the ore common miter saws the issue of that system of course is that most Woodworking shops these days have their own CNC equipment and can knock out a similar. System pretty easily but the concept looks pretty good id be interested on seeing test results of it in action another addition that would be cool is to house the vacumn in a insulated. Cabinet. To reduce the loud noise a shop vac is known. For my first thought is a rolling bae cabinet that also acts as a saw stand and outrigger set up for longer boards
Very good idea works well but I agree with some of the comments to simplify it a little more a bit too complex for just anyone to make. All in all I really like it
Thats very clever. I hadn't thought about removing/replacing the fence. In my shop, I don't reaaaally need the bevel capability, just miter and even then just 0->+45 not to -45, which has got me wondering if somewhat of a hybrid between your fence (remove just the right side) and Drew's would work out well (for me). I made a very bad immigration of Drew's solution (super quick to build with CA!), and that actually works pretty great (despite the flaws I introduced!) but doesn't really have enough room to hook a 4" hose up directly
Thanks Paul! You definitely swayed my decision to get this particular saw with your helpful answers to my questions. And I'm glad you did because it lead me down the road to this goofy thing.
I feel like no matter what you do, the more cuts you add, the more the face of the fence will get eaten away and become a huge opening. I think if you limit your number of angled cuts, I think you might have success. Maybe I'm not really following it though. my preferred solution is still to use the RAS with a sacrificial fence that I keep disposing of when they get worn (since they are so cheap). I'm looking forward to your updates!
For someone who makes all sorts of different angled cuts, it would eventually get chewed up. 90% of what I do will be 90 degree crosscuts. 9% will be 45 degrees and the last 1% will be miscellaneous, so it will take me a long time to destroy it. My hope would be to add a removable throat plate when that day comes. Also, with that 4" dust collector hooked to it, it's probably loosing airflow by being choked off. The more relief cuts I make, the better suction it will have.
Your fence design is wonderful and innovative. Removing the fence was fantastic and allows for endless expansion. The modular design allows for endless possibilities and design changes. You could sell individual numbered pieces or complete sets as well for those of us that might not have a CNC. Something to consider is possibly using threaded rod to hold it together so that it can be disassembled or easy repaired or modified as future needs, wants or changes arrise. You might also consider threded inserts every few pieces to ensure snugness during assembly though that may or may not be necessary as it may be far more restrictive than useful now that I think about it. The end caps can be used to hide the nuts with a countersink or one could leave them exposed. I'd also consider possibly making it a bit taller or even wider to allow for larger suction to be attached without the need for Adapters. Taller sides may allow for more stability while shorter mid section to allow for clearance. Seems to me you might get away using all number 7 pieces in the middle foregoing the use of 6 all together. In my observation it just seemed number 6 was not as necessary or useful as 7 alone. It just seemed to me that number 6 was a bit restrictive as well. Great project I think you really have something here. I gave up on dust collection for my miter saw because nothing seemed to work any better than the basic design or hose but your design has real potential. You are the first I've seen to remove the fence and repurpose it for collection. Cheers...
Outstanding! Regardless of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" that was an awesome effort and the journey inspired me and got me thinking of ... Essentially, how to think through a complex scenario like this. Well done!
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Simon Pegg does extremely intricate woodworking and machine modifications! That's something I wasn't expecting to see this morning
The new Makita dust collection that moves with the saw on compound miter saw is best I have seen.
So true. But this guy is American, they like to invite things that don’t need inventing.
Why not just make the center piece an interchangeable piece? Make multiples that are either made to be changed out for different angles or different bevel cuts?
Very innovative and a great answer to my shroud's limitation! Nice work, Mark!!
Thanks Drew!
indeed
Has Frank Howarth seen this yet? Great work both of you!
And he didn't even have to steal any plywood from his neighbor. ;-)
Drew and Mark, y'all have got to bring this to market. Both of you should patent this thing because the need for intelligent dust collection for chop saws is HUGE! F
Drew, when I saw yours I was thinking I have to make one of those but just don't have the time. Mark, more seeing how yours can combine with Drew's, there's just too big of a need for this. I've installed floors on 2 sorry houses and have such a terrible time with dust from laminate flooring I increased my butt muscles to disproportionate sizes going up and down the stairs 10 billion times. With a fence/dust collector like this I can cut inside and save my backside and hamstrings with increased productivity. I know it sounds lazy but time is money. Plus, with Mark's idea of slivers of pieces y'all can make it modular for nesting 6" crown with combined mitered and beveled cuts. Slide one out, slide the other in to fit different cutting purposes.
Wow, I have watched probably a dozen different solutions being build and this is by far the most advanced and it blends in with the saw perfectly. 🚀
It's a little over the top for sure!
Fantastic Idea of a Dust Collector. To replace the factory parts gives up the space needed to introduce a this complete new way to collect all of the stuff you want to get rid of. As a metal worker, i would reproduce this thing in my familiar environment which is steel😎. Thanx a lot for this unusual but more than interesting way to solve a problem which most of the miter saw users have. Stay save and healthy. ✌️👏👏👏🇩🇪😎
I am no Nostradamus but I see a manufacturer contacting you about using your design. I think what you made is brilliant.
Well thanks Tom, let's hope they do!
And it's "first to file" now in the US. Publishing on RUclips severely limits your ability to patent but someone like FastCap would probably jump all over this with a licensing agreement.
Great idea. I think I'll try my hand at it, changing construction technique to using plywood to create a box, the inside acting as the airflow tube, and just drilling holes in the face to create the grid.
Awesome! you'll have to let me know how it turns out!
I don't know if either of you will read this, but I'd suggest making the center top and front out of 1/4" mdf and detachable, a sacrificial part. One of mdf's properties is that it dulls blades less than "real wood".
If I decide to make 1, that's how i will do it. A box in center with top and front as above, a 2 1/2" hole at the end of the box. The other half, an L in cross section. For my use, a tape mounted above the T track, and fence extension mountable to it, probably by french cleat with a c clamp.
Your design is definitely innovative. You put a ton of thought into it, and I like how you were very detailed with your explanation of the different pieces and really making this overall project not seem so overwhelming. I also like how you have a stop block system that works for really short cuts, that isn't something you see on other saws without a dedicated spacer block to the miter saw station fence. Great job, and the color matching makes it look like a factory upgrade!
I did something nearly identical and it works amazing. I actually have small holes in the zero clearance base plate (all the way out to the miter handle) along with the back fence plate and this holds the work piece down and back against the fence when my dust collector is on and more importantly provides amazing air flow. Mine is taller goes all the up to the bottom of the saw (actually removed the black bracket), on yours there is that small pocket on either side of the blade (vertical portion) I have zero clearance on the bottom and all the way up the fence backing with a series of holes next to it. This allows zero clearance to eliminate tear out, the holes provide suction to the workpiece holding it in place, and there is essentially no dust that escapes.
Awesome, sounds like a great design!
Do you have some pictures of your setup? That sounds really intriguing.
Great job Very ingenious answer to a problem that every brand of saw suffers from!
I had a 10" Dewalt compound miter saw for around 12 years (light duty). It still works great ruclips.net/user/postUgkxPeGkHOMe05FySypTOvYumxMn-xi39oRe but I wanted something bigger. My only complaint about the 10" was the location of the motor, and this version fixes that issue. The XPS system works well. My only request for future versions is a dust collection port (or adapter) that fits large shop vac hoses (or standard PVC pipe fittings) a little better. But that's not a complaint, just a request.
If I could have a dust free shop that would be an amazing goal. This is definitely one of those tools that would be a challenge to get dust free, but you've got a really good start. I love the use of the cnc to make it happen. Cool project.
Thanks Chad! This was a fun challenge. It has some room for improvement, but it's a great feeling to get a wacky idea out of your brain and make it real!
As long as it works (and I can't see any reason why it shouldn't) it is a very smart idea and one that a lot of people will be wanting to copy.
I'm excited to see what kind of variations people come up with!
Love it! Nice job matching the color to hide the MDF too! A skim coat of Bondo prior to paint would've further smoothed the surface and made it look like metal too. I would look o make the middle section indexed and replaceable (just like a throat plate on the table saw). I, like you, would hesitate EVERY time I had to cut a new angle and it would drive me crazy! If it was replaceable, I'd just cut it up and continue to procrastinate making a new middle section FOREVER!
I was thinking along the same line of thought as you. Right when he said there are 42 pieces I thought for sure he was going to make it modular to slide off parts for nesting 6" crown with beveled and mitered cuts.
I did Franks design on my Radial Arm saw and it works fantastic. I have the new Makita miter saw that needs some love in the dust collection department. This is brilliant.
Very cool dude! This idea has tremendous potential!
That’s a very interesting solution. It will be interesting to see how it holds up as you cut into it more.
Pretty creative. I bet you gave some miter saw companies some ideas.
I've been hearing about this for a while, and seeing it work and how it all came together was so cool! I think it really helped how you had each of the sections cut out and explained what they were for and why they were shaped like that. Plus, the paint really looks great! It hurt me too when you would cut into it. Great video!
I'm a man of action... slow action. Seems like I've been talking about this for months, glad I didn't build up the hype too much!
Gunflint Designs Ha ha. No, it was totally worth it!
I think you are on the right track! I had mentioned in a comment to Drew that I was considering using the exhaust of the vacuum to guide the dust into a dust chute so the vacuum could suck it up; so in your case it might be just the thing to force the dust down into your fence. Maybe just a matter of hooking the exhaust up to your original port on the saw? Thanks for the great videos!
That's an interesting idea Frank!
That's AWESOME!!! Way to think outside of the box.
Great job, love to see the thought process be expanded upon from someone else. Keep the good work and craftsmanship.
I definitely believe it has a lot of good potential! Keep on with the improvements that you have whirling around from this build (at least that is what it looked like to me). Let those creative wheels keep rolling and see where they will take you. You are inspiring others to also take up the challenge to create a better fence/dust control solution for their miter saws. Thank You!
Thank you Randy, I appreciate the feedback! My goal was to put the idea out there and hope it inspires people to take the design and improve it.
There might be better dust collections methods out there but having a system you designed using some newer technology will most likely lead to some great projects. This is a great " lets try this" project and a definite learning piece.
Thanks Mike! That is exactly what this was in my mind - "let's try this." Most of the time when I do that, it ends up in small smoldering piles in the yard - this was a happy success!
Wow! I’ve watched about a dozen of these in the past week and this is a masterpiece, sir.
I was pretty excited about taming my miter dust situation this weekend, but this video made me realize I need to take some time planning this.
Temporary solution: I’m just gonna roll my miter table outside, haha
Looks great and very inventive. I just upgraded a few months back to that Bosch Miter Saw and its an awesome saw.
Brilliant! You young whippersnappers are always coming up with better methods!! Definitely worthwhile improvement to the ubiquitous miter saw. Jointech had a similar design for router tables, but that design would not work for the complex geometry of a miter saw. Bravo Mark!
Great Job! I will take this Idea for my own Development. The Middlepart will be changeable, because it will be destroyed over the time of Using with several Saw-Angles. I will use MPX-Birchwood for the Fence. 👍🏻
I love how you did think outside the box for a solution to this problem this mitre saw brand has man.I'd love to have you do a review on your solution to this issue with this brand of mitre saw.
Thanks Philip! I plan on just using it for a little while, that's how I will find the shortcomings in my design. Once I am happy with any improvements I'll maybe do a followup video and try some Math just like Drew did.
The explanation of the process is invaluable. Thanks very much. Thumbs up to crush a troll.
I'm glad you enjoyed it!
very well done young man,keep thinking positive,adventure is always alittle scary.you are one of our future thinkers
This is super brilliant. you should contact Bosch and sell them the idea. maybe they could make it out of extruded aluminum. with a replaceable center for when it gets chewed up. love the idea. keep up the excellent work.
Wonder if you could make it so that the part that gets cut up by the saw is replaceable. So you make a bunch of them and as they get worn out you can pull the old one out and pop a fresh one one in.
Great job. Cool idea. Love the one frank howarth did too. And fisher’s is cool too.
I was thinking the same thing.
Very smart idea. I’ve been looking forward to seeing this since hearing about it on the podcast. The finish turned out sweet.
-Ben
Thanks Ben!
Looks sharp sir. Adding dust collection to my miter saw is on the todo list for sure.
Man, I just found your channel and I'm hooked. I sold my workshop to move, but I'm getting it back this year. There's a LOT of thought you're putting into this and that's cool. Look forward to checking out future videos. I saw the video with your wife and kids. BEAUTIFUL family man. Your kids are too cute. My son (9 years old) helps me out too.
Really cool. Nice work, will wait to see how well it works for you. But looks to be a great solution to a dusty problem.
Now it makes sense! I had no idea what you were describing on the podcast, but as soon as I saw it here, it clicked. This is very neat, and you nailed that paint job!
Its a really tricky thing to try and explain without visuals! The paint job turned out so surprisingly good that it brought a tear to my eye when I finally cut through it.
Great execution of your idea! I love that you included all your creative problem solving. Great shirt selections as well!
Thanks!! I was hoping you'd notice the classy shirt.
Absolutely brilliant design! May not be perfect, but brilliant outside the box ideas incorporated!
A most interesting project very well presented.
That is quite an ingenius design. I cam imagine the thinking that went into it. Good job.
Crazy dust collection setup. I use a dust box. Thank you for sharing.
Sometimes I over complicate things, but its all in the name of learning! A dust box is effective and simple, this is just the opposite!
Love the innovative thinking. Well done. You have inspired me to try something like that now.
Impressive If it works for you and does the job you designed it to do it’s perfect well done Sign of a craftsman and innovator
I love your thought process here Mark, and the design looks really good. I think you have a winner here. I did see Frank Howarth's video as well and his dust collection is a great functioning solution.
Thanks for sharing my friend.
Thanks for the kind words Felix! I thought about keeping this a secret while I tried to perfect it, but that's just not my style. I'm hoping somebody can take this idea and help me improve it.
You might want to reach out to Frank Howarth and see if he responds. I think it came out great.
what a nice paint job! wow that makes it so much more awesome
You have a very innovative idea and did a fantastic job bringing it to life. That said, it would have been REALLY helpful to see some actual comparison of with/without on dust collection.
Nicely done & fantastic explanations for all the thinking behind it. 👍🇦🇺
Great idea, great video. Maybe in 2.0v you make center part replaceable. 🤷🏽♂️ just a thought.
I think it looks great. Looked to be very little dust escaping too. I also bet the new versions of high end saws will someday incorporate some form of dust collection in the fence or base.
Very cool idea
A replaceable plate that is a consumable might be a good idea to consider
great to see thinking on your feet with the spline, when your hard planning was giving results that were not good enough. its a fun topic to be looking at, worth the effort id say
What an ingenious idea. great job.
A very good improvement of other ideas. And good on you for giving credit to the people who gave impetus to your idea. When I first saw ( no pun intended) the thumbnail for this video I thought you made a metal fence for the saw due to the paint color. Nicely done.
Ron
Thanks Ron, I’m glad you like it!
Awesome work! This system is so incredibly scalable and customizable. Subscribed!
Thanks Bobby
This would be a super cool 3D printing project. I would think the plastic would be more stable than the MDF. I like this a lot! Get your patent in now, sir! Very cool!
I've thought the same thing. How much do you think that thing would cost as a 3D print? I also thought about the possibility of an aluminum extrusion that just has the saw kerfs pre-cut into it.
@@GunflintDesigns I have no idea. :) I haven't done any 3D printing, but I would bet you could easily sell the 3D printing files online, as well as your CNC files for the MDF version. Aluminum sounds really cool, but I would think you'd run into more issues with everybody's saw being just a little different. Go make the 3D version and patent that thing now, or Kreg will be selling them next week! :D
I think it's an awesome idea. Definitely had your thinking cap on for that one. Well done
Thanks Randy!
I like it. Going to look at mine to see how I could apply this concept. Thanks
Let me know how yours works out!
Holy crap! That's impressive man!
I didn't try to read all 291 comments so hopefully not repeating something. Great start to a way to make a more compact and capable dust collector. Seems you have an inch of room between the saw and the system you made. Thought of making it slightly taller to help prevent the dust from going by? Also, might be a good idea to just make something that hangs over the cuts slightly that could prevent dust from going over if that makes sense.
Great concept and execution! I would suggest trying Medex - exterior grade, water resistant MDF. It is harder and stronger than MDF and machines nicely. Oh and just a thought if you develop this great idea further; you might consider integrating as small as possible sacrificial insert that could be replaced whenever it wears out or sustains damage from a kick, etc. I think this is an idea well worth developing further, kudos!
Wauw, and no, it is not a dumb idea.
Very well thought of, but intensiv.
Thumbs up.
Willy from Belgium.
What a great idea young man
Wow, very impressive!
Clever. Hard work, but I see manufacturers looking at a solution to this popular dust extraction trend. Great video 👴🏻🇦🇺
wow... congartulations... great design
What a fun project.
I think it has huge potential!! It’s amazing!
Wow. Really cool project!!
That's awesome. I was a bit neutral on it until you painted it, then it was "HOLY COW THIS IS GENIUS"! haha. I like overly complicated solutions, maybe I'll take a crack at a design too.
Let me know when your design is ready for unveiling, I'd love to see it.
Every miter saw manufacturer, TAKE NOTES from this and Fisher´s shop!!!
Haha, thank you, that's high praise!
just what everybody needs, better dust collection for miter saws. Love it
Thumbs up just for the damn paint job
You are some kind of genius sir!
Awesome build! Love the creativity and problem solving.
thats a killer saw too!
Great thinking in this design.
I like it. The only improvement I would make is to make the center section replaceable so you don't have to feel so sad when you cut into it.
Over 5K views on the day it is published! I love the idea. I have a 12 inch Ridgid compound miter saw. I will look into making one.
If you can adapt it to work with your Ridgid I would be really interested in hearing about it!
Look nice once painted and on top, color matched.
You learned MDF delaminates easily and doesn’t have a constant density throughout its thickness, enhance the trouble facing it on the jointer.
I wouldn’t be surprised your fence split again if by any bad luck a piece of wood you cut decides to kick... once in 10 years event.
Impressive work!
Very smart idea! I'll wait for a review of this design after you use it a bit 😉
Great idea and concept my Woodworking background is. Mostly involved with the onsite installation of Architectual Woodwork and improving dust collection not only has health benefits but it would seriously improve Customers opinions on keeping the fine dust to a minimum. I could see this type of a product being a big seller especially if you. Offered kits for the ore common miter saws the issue of that system of course is that most Woodworking shops these days have their own CNC equipment and can knock out a similar. System pretty easily but the concept looks pretty good id be interested on seeing test results of it in action another addition that would be cool is to house the vacumn in a insulated. Cabinet. To reduce the loud noise a shop vac is known. For my first thought is a rolling bae cabinet that also acts as a saw stand and outrigger set up for longer boards
Very good idea works well but I agree with some of the comments to simplify it a little more a bit too complex for just anyone to make. All in all I really like it
Very cool design! Always love to see innovation like this!
Amazing work
Nice idea and work 👍
Nice job! I like your design. Thanks for sharing.
I'm glad you like it!
That's a thing of beauty!
Absolutely love the video and the music! Job well done! 👍👍👍😎🇨🇱
Luvverly. Love the attention to detail. Now for the Mk II. This will have a replaceable centre section. 🤔
Thats very clever. I hadn't thought about removing/replacing the fence. In my shop, I don't reaaaally need the bevel capability, just miter and even then just 0->+45 not to -45, which has got me wondering if somewhat of a hybrid between your fence (remove just the right side) and Drew's would work out well (for me).
I made a very bad immigration of Drew's solution (super quick to build with CA!), and that actually works pretty great (despite the flaws I introduced!) but doesn't really have enough room to hook a 4" hose up directly
Thanks Paul! You definitely swayed my decision to get this particular saw with your helpful answers to my questions. And I'm glad you did because it lead me down the road to this goofy thing.
I feel like no matter what you do, the more cuts you add, the more the face of the fence will get eaten away and become a huge opening. I think if you limit your number of angled cuts, I think you might have success. Maybe I'm not really following it though. my preferred solution is still to use the RAS with a sacrificial fence that I keep disposing of when they get worn (since they are so cheap). I'm looking forward to your updates!
For someone who makes all sorts of different angled cuts, it would eventually get chewed up. 90% of what I do will be 90 degree crosscuts. 9% will be 45 degrees and the last 1% will be miscellaneous, so it will take me a long time to destroy it. My hope would be to add a removable throat plate when that day comes. Also, with that 4" dust collector hooked to it, it's probably loosing airflow by being choked off. The more relief cuts I make, the better suction it will have.
Your fence design is wonderful and innovative. Removing the fence was fantastic and allows for endless expansion. The modular design allows for endless possibilities and design changes. You could sell individual numbered pieces or complete sets as well for those of us that might not have a CNC.
Something to consider is possibly using threaded rod to hold it together so that it can be disassembled or easy repaired or modified as future needs, wants or changes arrise. You might also consider threded inserts every few pieces to ensure snugness during assembly though that may or may not be necessary as it may be far more restrictive than useful now that I think about it. The end caps can be used to hide the nuts with a countersink or one could leave them exposed.
I'd also consider possibly making it a bit taller or even wider to allow for larger suction to be attached without the need for Adapters. Taller sides may allow for more stability while shorter mid section to allow for clearance.
Seems to me you might get away using all number 7 pieces in the middle foregoing the use of 6 all together. In my observation it just seemed number 6 was not as necessary or useful as 7 alone. It just seemed to me that number 6 was a bit restrictive as well.
Great project I think you really have something here. I gave up on dust collection for my miter saw because nothing seemed to work any better than the basic design or hose but your design has real potential. You are the first I've seen to remove the fence and repurpose it for collection. Cheers...
That's badass! I dig the paint job. Thanks for sharing the process.
Glad you like it Tharemy!
Quality build awesome.
Got to say, I really like the looks.
Outstanding! Regardless of "woulda, coulda, shoulda" that was an awesome effort and the journey inspired me and got me thinking of ... Essentially, how to think through a complex scenario like this. Well done!