Will a STOCK TRITON 5.4L handle 12 PSI?! ***SINGLE TURBO Grandpa Truck***
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2020
- In today's video I turn the boost up to 12 psi on my single turbo 2003 Ford F150 with stock block and stock trans.
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Can we just appreciate how clean that truck is
From what I’ve seen it’s the crew cabs of this generation of Ford truck that get treated nicely and not beat on as much as a single or extended cab
My moms 03 4x4 crew is cleaner and has almost 300k.
@@Flankerr More then clean enough, it shows someone has actually used it as a truck a time or 2.
@@Flankerr I've seen 2015's that make this truck look new
Your mom hasn’t been that clean since 03
That cool noise is called compressor surge and I caused by your blow off valve not opening
Well, that's the best sounding equipment failure I've ever had!
Yea its really not good I agree sounds cool but on my twin turbo bmw I had to use a bigger line going into the bov to keep it from surging
Or a malfunctioning or poorly controlled or undersized bov. ✌☺👍
@@AutoDetour also i think i remember a recall on the short bed reg cab trucks. when on the brakes hard it can lift the rear axle?? Edit. Instead of asking more questions about the setup ill watch the other vids. My next q was going to be what ecu ? Then rev limit? Boost cutoff is all good but fuel cut kills motors.
We call that stutututututu
Thanks Kade for helping Dad out with the filming. Grandma’s proud of you!!
Thanks Grandma!
Lol
@@86250r I think the joke must have gone over my head. Would you please be so kind as to let me know what I should be laughing at?
@@ndog1234765 It's funny because its his grandma
@@yellowboi4920 The humor must be too advanced for me then. Not sure what's funny about a man's grandmother showing her appreciation.
Nice truck, I have a 01 f150 5.4 2 valve almost 300,000 miles ...never was a Ford fan but this is the best truck I have ever owned.
You got lucky the 5.4 tends to have issues
3 valves are the ones that die early.
The early ones are stout one of our company trucks a 2000 f250 had the 5.4 it jus wouldn’t quit we put over 400k on that engine it started getting a lil weak but still ran good we jus swapped it for a 6.8v10
@@hunterrollins5646 not the 2v 5.4's
I have a 1998 sohc 5.4 in my 150. 199k, still strong.
Yeah that's called compressor Surge, and it's caused by the blow off valve not opening. That sound you're hearing is the air stalling over the compressor as it goes backwards against flow, or stops, when the throttle plate closes in the throttle body. It causes a sudden loading and unloading of the shaft very quickly axially and honestly doesnt really hurt the turbo until higher boost levels/shaft speeds.
I just bought a 97 Eddie Bauer expedition with the 5.4L I didn’t need to see this video!
This is the video you know you wanted to see
I just bought a 5.4 litre 1997 single cab -- stripped out with vinyl floors, no options, and very light compared to a new one.
I’m calling in the neighborhood of 460 whp at 12 psi. Gramps seems like a fun truck. 🤣
That's probably pretty close!
That’s a generous a amount.
@@brianmccarthy9855 not really. It’s a relatively fair amount considering it made just over 400 at 8.8 psi.
I bet he's at 530whp ish being a 4.6 probably makes a little under 500 on 10psi
Those 5.0 and 3.5 ford engines just put their old stuff to shame. 460whp is low hp now for forced induction . I'm just not impressed by this .
Compressor surge is what you're hearing from the blow off valve not working. At 100% duty cycle, what is the base wastegate spring youre using? If you go to a base 10# spring you could reduce the duty cycle of the boost controller. Get that blow off valve working. It'll keep the turbo alive longer.
It’s a 6# spring, that’s why I can only hit 12psi at 100% duty on my 3 port solenoid. Didn’t realize the % duty cycle would affect the bov.... I’ll need to try that out. I’m afraid if I put 10 pound spring in, I’ll be tempted to try 20psi tho!🤣
@@AutoDetour I understand the dilemma about boost being addictive. Good luck in your endeavor. My recommendation will definitely fix your boost issue. Also, as i stated previously-get that blow off valve fixed to stop the compressor surge. It is very bad for the turbo. Keep it in between the lines and keep having fun my friend.
Man, I love it. looks like a blast to drive. Makes me want to buy the kit for my 4.6l lol. We are on the same Facebook groups so I got 4 notifications when you upload lol. That sound your waste gate makes gives it that finshing touch when you let off the throttle 👍👍
It's definitely fun! Brakes need a little help. 😂 Oh yeah. I blasted it on all the groups earlier. Lol
Needs a stall convertor w/lockup plus some trans mods. Just doing those two things will wake the truck up.
damn I never thought I would say this but aside from the cam phasers and spark plugs shooting out, the 5.4 is a tough ass motor
No cam phasers in the 2 valve 5.4, but yes, sending a plug into orbit is certainly a possibility. 😂
@@AutoDetour espacially with boost😂
The two valves are complete tanks of a engine!
Ya its the 07 and up that blow their guts out at 175k. Pretty sure they came with a pack of helicoils in the glove box from the factory....
@@JohnDoe-jj6wf the 3v came out before 07
Loving the spooley sounds. Music to my ears my guy! Love it!
The triton bottom end is pretty good. My only concerns would be the compression ring gap under boost and the spark plug threads in the heads. Should hold up well otherwise. Pretty sweet!
Yeah I read about spark plug blowout and having to rethread. Haven't heard/read anything yet about the turbo setup having that issue.
Fun video man.! We just sold my dads 5.4 2001 f150! Had 177k miles no problem. Gotta love the shakes and rattles in Graham and His friends
😂 I’ll fix the rattles someday.
My current 2003 E-250 has the same 5.4 2V Triton engine. 560k still going strong, enough said.
What 560k?????
I've got the same gauge on my supercharged 5.3. Its cool to see all the boost control functionality on a turbo set up
Such a great setup!
I want to seem some 4x4 pulls haha
That thing is insane man.. 😳
Thanks man! It's crazy the difference it made!
Underrated RUclipsr
Thanks brother!🙏🏻
I like how he is hella informative as far as problems so you know 😂😂😂🤝
I wanna see this against a Lightning
And I wanna see this in person someday.
I'd love to get it next to a lightning!
I second that. 👍
Harley Davidson edition was basically a 4dr Lightning
Lightning only ever put out 380 at the crank.
@@ronniestine A pulley swap will easily get you more power with the Lightning. Kenne Bell makes a bolt-on twin screw too. I think the Lightning would handily take this truck off the line, but the turbo truck would make up some ground as the speeds get higher. The Lightning has some advantages when it comes to suspension and traction too. Then there's the people who have turbocharged their lightning. You've got all forged internals so you can push the bottom end way harder than a standard 5.4.
I love how you block in the F150 with the viper haha I know you love the truck just a lil more 😂 beautiful truck and viper brotha 🤙🏽
Have you put much thought to doing an AWD conversion? It helped the Syclone so much. You could probably cut the boost and actually go faster as a result.
If you add ring gap and fresh bearings up while you're at it it can handle some real boost lol
Around rod bolts and head studs and arp main studs
@@spankthemonkey3437 cheap upgrade forgot to mention. This is def going to help the cause ...
no, the rods'll go after 450-500 wheel. It's a time bomb on anything higher than that even with ring gap. the rods are the weakest link
Makes me want to buy an expedition and do the same.
Do it!!
That would be nice
I have an expedition. I love it.
Me and my dad are about to do a build very similar! Your truck is rad
Good luck gettin the plugs out!!!
Love it. Sounds good!
I wanna see some 4wd launches lol
Here ya go! ruclips.net/video/TG17FkJDnK0/видео.html
That is a cool sleeper man! I have a 05 fx4 I purchased in 2010 used!, it had 70k on the odometer when I bought it fast forward 11 yrs later it has just over 170k! It started to run really rough a few weeks back I had bad misfires poor idling etc I took it to a solid reliable ford mechanic now it's getting the upgraded oil pump new timing chains tensioners phasers spark plugs coil packs the list goes on!!! it's blown one spark plug since I've owned it and had numerous coil pack failures !! It sounded like a diesel truck it ticked so bad for so long and ran poor but never broke down lol ! Hopefully when I get it back it will be like a brand new truck 🤣
Thanks Mike! They are great trucks and it's good you're getting those phasers done. Those can be a real problem in those if left untouched. You've given that truck a good life. Hope it's better than new when you get it back!
Love the build, doing the same for my 2002 and wondering if Casey could send over the same tune he sent you for gramps
I have a friend who daily drives a 06 f150 with a whipple super charger. I think the truck makes around 430-440 something around there. I’m amazed by it every time lol
let it loose brother. i'm guessing 4.6 in 0-60, and 500/600 hp/trq. regardless, i want to see it run the viper :)
good job Ryan, looking forward to more updates on gramps.
Thanks Jon! I also want to see how it stacks up against the Viper!
that's nice boost
I like the little red Honda you have parked in the grass
lol
Just curious on what the engine temperature is after standing on this turbo pretty hard.
I’m excited to see what gramps will do against whitie 😈 good video!
Same! Thanks man!
I bought a stock turbo for my f150. Its a must
The modular takes boost very well. The intaje and heads suck but the internals can take close to 700hp before they fail.. its the LS of the ford world
And the 4r70 is a good.. i recommend doing the 500hp J Mod. Search it. You bunch the holes in the separator plate larger.
Its a mod from one of the fuys who R&D that trans
SICK TRUCK
That turbo would come in handy if you were towing a heavy trailer or boat, maybe do a complete rebuild with quality parts such as arp rod bolts, mahle pistons,etc.
One of your vac lines to blow off valve is blocked, that noise is the pressure going back through your compressor wheel, not a good thing, but not a bad thing either lol
I still haven't dug into it to see why it's doing it. I just keep sending it. 😂
My 05 5.4 3V handles 12 PSI very well with my P1X upgraded procharger.
Just hit 180K miles last week.
It’ll be getting rebuilt this spring.
Love my motor.
i got a nice 80k mile flareside scab 4x4 itd be sick to strap on a blower
same year
@@tvon4966 hope u did it by now sounds sick
Compressor surge.....chuff, chuff, chuff
this thing is pretty damn quick
Do you still have the boat? It would be interesting to see how much better it tows and the mpg!
Love what you've done. My 02 FX4 is getting some love soon. But first I GOTTTA get that Programmer you have, if nothing more than the suck ass shift points those trucks have
What’s your timeline on the build motor? Be interesting to up it to 16psi before you swap blocks. I have done the same size turbo on my 5.4l 04 F250 currently on 8psi till my new tune comes through. It’s piggy bank fuel controlled atm.
That truck is clean
Ok, I've got a 06, 5.4 and yes, I need this on it. Any links for the parts and what's needed to do it? Still have the vct stuff on it too.
0:11 holy shit balls that 60-85 was quick as hell
PLEASE GO TO AN F150 FORUM AND DO A WRITE UP ON THIS AND GIVE FULL DETAILS OF THE RELIABILITY, DRIVEABILITY, ETC. and then tell us what forum you did it on.
There is no info on turbo 5.4 2v trucks ANYWHERE
There's a Facebook group called Ford 2v modular engine builders. Mostly mustang guys but there's some trucks and its the same engine
Because they're not worth the money do what other ford guys do and 5.3 swap it
There is a reason no one does this. But with the shit up he's going to blow up the turbo before the engine.
I drive a 2002 f250 with the 5.4 2v and i will say for how much people bash them i regularly haul 2500kg of stone up mountains and man has it treated me good, looking into putting a turbo on it due to the altitude change where i live, truck has 264k km and still runs great
God I love gramps!
Btw man if you like that turbo flutter you can keep it @ low boost it won’t hurt anything , but if it’s high boost pressures that turbo surge can make shit fail. But yea your waste gate isn’t working properly .
*blow off valve
You have a lot of faith in that 3V
This is a 2v 5.4 not 3v. The 3v I believe didn’t start till 2004 when they changed body styles.
Exactly what Mark said. 2v FTW!
That's a nice truck
That is compressor surge as stated below. Did you change the vacuum routing at all? Make sure the bov and wg have direct lines to vacuum. You don't want to do that for a long period of time or you will destroy the bearings in the turbo.
I didn't change anything. I'm wondering if the cheap Chinese bov just quit working
Ford advertisement: “Now introducing… the Triton Ecoboost!”
Minus the Eco….
As always Ryan, awesome job on the truck. I've chatted with you on one of the Facebook groups before.
Thanks man! I really appreciate that!
get you some leaf blowers on that viper ;) driveway has a few leaves.
like that track look good
I have a 2001 two door short bed with the 5.4
I’m curious if you throw a heavier spring in the wastegate and go 14psi
Thinking of doing this to my truck its 2001 5.4 4×4 lariat. Any suggestions you have would be greatly appreciated and is your a 2 valve or 3
The reason it’s making that sound is because all the boost built up is dumping all at one time making that flutter noise or the classic “stu Stu Stu Stu”
Compressor surge, it's not particularly good for the turbo AFAIK. This happened to me once when the vacuum line slipped off my BOV, noticed it instantly by the different sound.
@@CodeBaconfy Makes sense
Yeah. I'm wondering if the bov quit working. I'll have to see what's up.
I really want the setup you have for my 2009 150
this dude style his hair with a leaf blower. sweet truck (and viper) though. How's the transmission holding up with the increased power?
Just got one of these from a guy for $200 from a old E-150. Going to turbo it and put it in my foxbody.
the viper aka a dodge colt with a body upgrade, now The Chrysler laser turbo that was a piston dropper, and the dodge ram was a pushrod launcher
Damn, that's fast!! Kinda sucks you're limited
Some of those surroundings look familiar. Are you near Stillwater / White Bear Lake...?
Yes. The overpass I went under at the end was the roundabout on Hilton under 36. You must be close by.
Didn't realize you were a local! Subscribed!
I wonder what 2 step would sound like on this truck.
I like the way you think!
How are those spark plugs still in the motor?!
Two valve and how many miles Sir ??? Super clean install
Hellyeah!
That sound is because your bov isn't adequate and excess boost going through the turbo. You need a better bov.
I've been curious about this engine because I also have a 99 F150 with the 5.4. I'd like to increase the power to impress some street dudes near where I live.
What happened to you gas milage after the turbo and with this set up?
Damn Grandpa truck huh?? Attacked
Nice truck.... I have same FX4 with 80k miles
Are you going to reinforce your hood for when a spark plug shoots out?
When installing that turbo did you have to change the injectors or the timing or reprogram the computer system on your truck?
god i love turbos
Sounds like compressor surge, is the blow off working any more?
Wondering if my 07 expedition can handle it
These 2v 5.4s will run forever!
Mine has 390k
223k on mine
602K on mine.
@@keaganhunter1644 really? I'm asking because I want to buy a 2000 expedition. But it has 220k miles. $3k very clean though
@@biggs1485 Take the oil cap off and snap a picture of the cam lobe surface look for sludge and wear if it looks good and sounds good I would consider it. My 600,000 mile 5.4 is in better shape then my farm abused 4.6L same 2 V modular design.
Its gonna be a rod that goes first the Lightning’s are only good for around 450 at the rear and it’s just a matter of time or it’s gonna be a piston, I just went with a forged crank, pistons and scat H beam rods 2 years ago
I love thenth gens. Ive got an 02 Kingranch with the same engine
I don’t think my 2003 FX4 Gramps could do that: wants to go back to the farm and live an easy life.
Honest question, how do you keep spark plugs in that engine, especially with boost?
This is an '03. I believe they have updated heads with more threads.
You hit the algorithm
I believe for every 7psi of boost you get %50 of base horsepower added with a stock head cam and bore. So with a 200hp engine would produce 300hp at 7psi of boost.
These engines like boost. I doubled the stock hp at 8.8psi
@@AutoDetour yeah similar to the v10 I'm leery of going over 10psi boost on my v10 but at 10psi my superduty is outperforming tuned 7.3s.
Great video I had a 99 with a 5.4 with over 500,000 on it used it for roofing plowing snow and ran the shit out of it . Not one major issue . My 08 is a POS .
MORE than likely that's a vaccum line issue. Either messing up where check valve goes. Some sort of vaccum issue with the bov. Your turbo is chopping air the bov isn't doing anything.
You are correct!
Why not fill the oil through one of the pcv ports on the valve cover?
Also that new noise is compressor surge
This thing is bad ass. Do you still own it?
I just got a brand new 5.4 triton engine on my truck, should I turbo it right away or wait a little