Honestly the only possible explanation I can think of for the existence of the SPF 30 sun gel is if it's the one that'll be sold in American stores. That way they have the "American market" one and the "everywhere else" one with the original watery sun gel.
I was first excited and then confused by these, too. I don't shop Korean sunscreens to get old filters with low SPF and have to also wait forever to get them. If that's what I wanted I'd buy domestic in the nearest drugstore today. I mean, maybe you're right and they want to have some options they can sell in the US, but....overall I was disappointed by the same two you were. I bought the tone-up one because A.) I wanted to support a brand I love, and B.) it sounds like a great option for when my skin is sensitized from Adapalene, sounds very soothing. The other two are just a complete miss for me.
The fact that they spent 2-3 years to develop 3 sunscreens that use old unstable and low protection organic filters, and one with mineral filters is disappointing. Imagine what kind of incredible sunscreens they could have made with that money and time using the new filters.
@@Justin_Osugi Seriously! 2-3 years on crap filters?! Exactly, I just really don't understand why they'd risk their reputation on sunscreens that aren't adding anything new to both the US OR international market😒
Girl, I have to tell you. I am triggered by Stylevana at the moment. I placed an order May 22nd that was supposed to be delivered yesterday, finally, and USPS would not deliver it, because they claimed the postage was counterfeit. Told me to contact the sender. I find the customer service for Stylevana to be pretty much nonexistent, so I’ve just decided I will never be ordering from them again. I knew the prices were too good to be true, I don’t trust them anymore and I’ll pay a little bit more to get things from a more reputable retailer.
Oh NO that’s still going on?? The counterfeit postage thing has been such a disaster, and sadly it’s affected a lot of legitimate international packages. Personally I think you should still contact stylevana, but do it through their instagram DMs. Their email support is quite slow, but they are faster on insta. Hope that helps!
Omg I would be SO pissed !! I hope your order didn't cost a fortune. I ordered a sunscreen or something from them last year and it took forever to get here so I am never ordering from them again I don't care how good the price is. I hope you are able to get your package. Please post an update~~ I would love to hear. 😢😡♥️
I wasn't expecting the Andor recommendation hahaha After watching just the first episode, I was so disappointed that I didn’t continue. I might go on until that 4th episode
It starts SOOOO SLOW. But oh my goodness, by episode 4, you’ll be on the edge of your seat. It’s Star Wars as I know and love it, not “somehow palpatine returned”
I'd say your completely correct on your subceptions. Have you ever heard the term, They're so smart that they're stupid? Thats exactly why we love this Brands other Sunscreens. We love them because they didn't have the FDA regulation filters. They're comfortable and don't burn or irritate. I was glued for A minute till your finding on the new releases. I hope they don't change their Others.
Yuuuup. Really what needs to change is the US, not our beloved KB formulas 😔 It’s ridiculous that we are so far behind. Shouldn’t cosmetically elegant filters that people ENJOY be a top priority? In a country that battles skin cancer? I could wax poetic on this problem..
Oh man I was really excited to hear your thoughts on the onion one as a lover of the gel cream in that line. I didnt realize it was a collab with an american influencer tho.. seems weird bc I feel like theyd do fine in the us without a collaboration. Hmm every brand has misses I guess.
Yup, even my fav 🥺 I do hope they revisit the concept of an onion sunscreen, this time with the newer filters. Rooting for you isntree, pun only slightly intended 🤭
@AliceintheRabbitHole I hope so too! I was going to try it most likely but I honestly haven't tried many sunscreens with American chemical filters so I'm a little hesitant. So disappointing I was hoping it'd be a new fav!
Thanks for a great review, I love that you go into in depth about the products. Please make a review of the handful of tinted sunscreens that you have found🌞
Already commented but none of these products appeal to me. Also don’t understand the influencer collabs. They are annoying. These are my negative thoughts of the day. 😵💫
I don't really understand it either unless they're looking for a broader appeal and think influencers will help with that? Though I can sort of see glow by ramon since he's a cosmetic formulator...
Yeah. It’s a strange release even if the US market is the explanation. I guess they want to grow but…there’s a reason we all love Korean sunscreens as they are!
I don't get what the point of buying a korean sunscreen with american filters. At the very least american sunscreens tend to be water resistant. All the korean in the US ones offer is lighter textures in tiny tubes for the same price as an american spf double the size.
Good point! I’ve been trying to figure out how the regulations work on “waterproof” sunscreens in Korea, but I’m not getting too far with that. It’s actually something I’ll give the U.S. as we have strict guidelines on that concept. Now if only we would approve new filters without the animal testing requirement 😩 UGH
@@AliceintheRabbitHole I've actually written to my state representatives asking them to advocate for the approval and testing of new filters. I doubt it will go anywhere, but maybe if we as a community took to doing that they would notice.
@@AliceintheRabbitHoleOldie Monod has a video explaining how Waterproof claims work in Korea. I think the concept is that Waterproof meams 40mins and super Waterproof 80 mins
I personally am a little thrown off at their new direction with this release and their 20% niacinimide and other actives serums (a la cosrx?) The onion newpair b5 ampoule was the last thing they dropped where i was like YES I NEED THIS.(which wasnt that long ago to be fair lol) I understand the desire to crossover into the US market, but that Cosrx vitamin e sunscreen did not prove to be very successful for them if i recall (also maybe because of the strong scent!) But still, I don't think i will be buying these. I have the issue of old school filters seeping into my eyes (sometimes hours after I apply and it dries down!) as to where i cannot see, and I will not be taking that risk with these. I would have been okay with lower spfs if they used the newer filters because they would probably be even more lightweight then our established favs, but this missed the mark imo. I also purchased a bunch of the abib sedum protection tube which i have just recently become obsessed with! I love that some sunscreens are using panthenol instead of niacinimide so I dont feel nervous layering them with my other millions of niacinimide containing products lol!
ITS SO COSRX. I get that cosrx is the more popular brand, but…isntree, you’re a better brand (🤐). Don’t follow: lead, Isntree. Funny enough, I had that Niacinamide serum in my stylevana cart, but as I was double checking the ingredients I saw the 20% and noped it right out of my cart. Good lord, that’s the last thing I need lol.
I have definitely had an adventure with sunscreens. I hate almost all of them, but I’ve finally found a combo that I absolutely love. I use a FULL application of the Beauty of Joseon sunscreen and then a small amount of Australian Gold Tinted Sunscreen on top. Absolutely a winning combination for me!
@@AliceintheRabbitHole yeah, it does give it a foundation effect and I really dislike the “dewy” look, so the drying effect the very small amount of Australian Gold I use takes down any shine I have without drying my skin.
I just tried the yam one this morning. I have oily combo skin and it's a cool day today so I doubt I'll get very shiny but it looks beautiful on. It's been almost 2 hours though and still feels tacky or like I for sure have something sitting on my skin. I didn't use any spf underneath either but I think would prefer my regular SPF that absorbs in well first then use this as a topper tint to blur.
No way these arent destined for US stores. I wonder if this will be in brick and mortar locations like an Ulta or if it will be online sales directly to the US. I would be very happy to get access to isntree locally, though the price point would definitely be higher than I'm used to seeing. But yeah these SPFs are disappointing! Also collabing with Cassandra Bankson is so strange and random. I'd rather they not collaborate with anyone. Idk, It feels cash grabby? Overall, feels bad. :(
Yuuup, I cannot conceive of any other reason to make formulas that are US-approved out of Korea. It’s not a secret that our filters are outdated! But yeah same thought. I do know that some people will never order from overseas, so this might be the only way to get Isntree in the hands of a larger audience (YESS more people need to try the onion toner lol!) But KB enthusiasts know there will be a markup, so I doubt we will change our shopping ways lol
Not a fan of CB so wouldn’t buy anything associated with her. Also looked up California’s registry for estheticians and didn’t find her name listed so I am leery.
@@sophiarose8127 She has good intentions, but it seems like she's in a bubble of positive affirmation. She's also VERY insensitive about money and constantly says how $30 sunscreens for 50mL is so affordable when there are people who that's half a day of work.
Perhaps spf 30 is what some people need or want? I have a decent amount of melatonin so spf 30 is probably fine since I never stay outside during intense sun times anyway
Now I'm not sure if I want to try these. Old filters can irritate my skin, that's why I love modern filters. Maybe just yam root, but their HA mineral spf is extremely drying for me, so I'm worried. You should try new reformulated axis-y spf, best mineral spf I have tried
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These are ... strange. In any case, since I found the Goodal Heartleaf sunscreen, everything else can go jump in a lake. My journey has ended. Also, I'm sure everyone thinks their favorites are the best, but for cleansing, the Isntree Yam Root Milk Cleanser followed by the Jordan Samuel Matinee Cream Cleanser has become the foundation of my routine. (And that's ANOTHER LGBT+-owned brand!) For reference, I have dehydrated, sensitive skin that will be 47 years old later this year. I'm not exactly acne prone, but I can definitely get red bumps and whiteheads if I'm not on my game. Those three products come with my highest recommendation.
Oh wow, and it’s a mineral sunscreen? Well that’s going in my cart haha! I also want to try Jordan Samuel so badly. Do you order direct or from Cult Beauty?
Tanks a lot! Purple one is so hyped so I had it in my cart for a while. Super light sunscreen for oily acne probed skin on old filters? Color correcting with no color? Nooo thanks.
I was bummed to see a loved Korean brand do US chem filter spf ???? Why we love Korean spf cause it's not US filters lots of us are allergic that's why we buy Korean spf it just makes no sense wth are they doing ??
I’m telling you, the more I think about it, the more I am TOTALLY convinced they’re planning to enter the U.S. stores. The packaging even says Kolmar - but this isn’t the Kolmar formula we all know lol! So now the game begins of what retailer. My bets are on Ulta, as I can see them fitting in there (though we will all still shop Vana/YS lol!)
@@AliceintheRabbitHole yeppp ur right , let's just hope they don't do away with their other good spf and replace it with this trash. I mean they still can sell to US on Amazon isntree official so I don't understand people don't want the US formula it's the whole point of buying them so it defeats the purpose. Do they think they can just trick people into buying this stuff at an Ulta cause they aren't ingredients buffs it's all about the money I guess.
My theory is this is a trial run (hence not having the active ingredients panel/deep shades yet). But the thing is…that feels like the inverted way to go about this. I doubt KB enthusiasts are going to be jumping for joy at avobenzone/spf30…people who haven’t tried any KB might though. I mean, these cost less than Sephora sunscreens, and they might be better (? I wouldn’t know with my sensitivity lol) So just…start with them here?
🐰 When I first learned about these releases...😒. The whole dang thing still has me shaking my head...despite instantly recognizing the underlying motiv..erm, I mean cocepts.
I also can not use Avobenzone. I am thinking you might be right about the international market. I really like the Numbuzen Tone up. I also use it as a makeup. Looking forward to trying this new one.
I've been wondering if they were going to do a US release since I saw they were doing a collab with Cassandra. It really just doesn't make since for them to work with her formulating a product if they aren't. I also can't imagine they'd formulate with the older filters unless they had to. 😂
I believe that I've seen first three episodes of Andor and it left a bit of 'meh' impression, good to know it will improve - I take your word for it. You should consider acting, that 'noooo, noooo!' inserted to the review was brilliantly conveying the message 😂 I ordered the onion sunscreen just out of curiosity - I have summer full of sunscreen trials to find the best one for myself, so let's see.
Hahaha so I actually am in quite a few films (as background) but there’s a lot of irony in that I don’t really watch a lot of movies. I’m in some jumpstreet movie? NCIS New Orleans. And…I forget what else (terrible, right) But yes, I promise Andor gets SO good, and right around episode 4!
Nooooo the Korean filters were what finally pulled me over to loving Korean skincare! So weird. Edit: yes I absolutely agree that that's most likely what Isntree is trying to do (go international). At my very small Sephora in Topeka, I believe Isntree is the only Korean brand featured. And they are VERY featured, as in a full half aisle display.
Yeah, US stores are smart to stock K-Beauty, but it really is a HUGE problem that the FDA limits sunscreens. It means customers can’t have the full KB experience without ordering from overseas, and agreed that KB sunscreens are arguably the best part. It’s such a frustrating situation.
I was disappointed with the new Isntree sunscreen release and will not purchase them. I like the rest of the Onion Newpair line, but I did not like that they used the US FDA approved chemical filters and not the new filters I can find in my preferred Korean and Japanese sunscreens. I love the rest of the Yam Root line, but I prefer new chemical filters, not mineral filters. I do like a few Korean and Japanese sunscreens that contain both new chemical filters and titanium dioxide in a combination product. I don’t understand who these new Isntree sunscreens are meant to be marketed to, but my guess is also the US.
I'm a bit disappointed, we don't need anymore SPFs with crappy filters😢I absolutely agree they want to sell them internationally, this is what I always think when I see Korean brands using ABSOLUTE FAILURES of US filters.
Hi Alice, butyloctyl salicylate seems to me to act as a chemical filter and is similar in structure to octisalate, which is present in yam root sunscreen. A big hug and I hope you are very well 🥰
Yup I agree! I appreciate that Lab Muffin has made several videos on the topic, although it certainly does make me side eye brands that make “chemical filters bad” claims and throw BS in their mineral sunscreen …I should abbreviate that differently going forward 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂....😢😢😢....and I was so excited about this new release of sunscreens!!! Honestly, the collaboration with Cassandra made me more curious 😅 Anyway, this is definitely a pass for me....the SPF is not high enough and the filters disappointing.... Thanks Alice
The hylauronic acid spf 30 isn't even much cheaper than the 50? Like, I was thinking that it would be OK to use in the winter when I don't need a super high spf if I can save some money, but no, they are both about $20. :/ The watery sun gel spf 50 is one of my favorite sunscreens so I'll probably stick with that.
Yeahhhh. I had high hopes for this release, but in the end I feel very: “🙁” The watery sun gel is great though (and their sun stick is actually my favorite sun stick!)
What I’m wondering is, if I use a Korean product like beauty of Joseon, and then I put octocrylene etc… on top of it in the form of a skin teint, does that render the SPF ineffective?
Those darn salicylates! I made the mistake of trying a sunscreen with one and suffering for a week afterwards even though I washed it off as soon as it started burning (not stinging). I won’t make that mistake again.
I love Korean sunscreens, won't use anything but Korean.....i know this is random but have you ever heard of MATKAS Korean Triple Pure Hyaluronic Acid Serum...it has Niacinamide, peptides, and other good ingredients.
Have u got the new P. calm line yet the active fit or whatever it's called it sounds interesting to me especially the toner that one is the most appealing to me .
@@AliceintheRabbitHole yes that one..lol I always mix up the name but I have heard amazing things about it from a few Korean / jap skincare influencers and it's more of a light milky texture .
I'm sorry I've been so quiet. I'm trying to catch up on all I've missed. My little Merlin collapsed and died last week so I've been devastated and miserable.
Finally an explanation for how the empire took control!! I feel like Lucas himself tried with the prequels but he just never got there (“so this is how liberty dies” line being the closest).
I saw the ingredients on these a few weeks ago and was so confused. Are they just trying to get into the American market so they can sell legitimately or what this is such a crock and let down ugh 😑
Does the tone up spf leave a semi matte finish? I am really hoping it's not that sort of drying matte formula like the isntree natural sunscreen or innisfree no sebum tone up spf. My biggest concern is if it is difficult to blend as most mineral spfs.
Semi matte yes! It’s actually not drying which is indeed rare. And for blending, do you mean in terms of time or difficulty? Because it’s not drying, it’s fairly easy to blend (vs the ones that try to dry in your eyebrows, ugh the worst 😑) but it’s still slow to work with, and more foundation-like in that sense. Hope that helps!
@@AliceintheRabbitHole The Numbuzin tone up sunscreen seems abit more drying/matte compared to the isntree tone up? I'm confused on which to pick. The onion or this. Isntree claims the onion sunscreen would be able to correct skin too, but on fair skin tones I think the correction would be very minimal?
If the game plan for Isntree and other Korean brands is too drag down their products to get US validation then it's damn sad but business is business I guess😅😅😅😅🤢🤢🤢
Do you by any chance know of any true 100% Mineral sunscreens please Alice? Ones which don't contain the SPF Boosters mentioned by Lab Muffin in her Blog post (Butyloctyl salicylate, Tridecyl salicylate, Ethylhexyl methoxycrylene, Undecylcrylene dimethicone, Diethylhexyl syringylidene malonate and Benzotriazolyl dodecyl p-cresol)
The new FAB weightless sunscreen! I was pretty impressed by that, although it does have its quirks in the tone/feel (probably for dry skin/fair skin tones - it’s in my most recent video if you want to see the application)
omg I HATE the garbage sunscreen options here in the states...I have never found one that feels good on my skin. Every sunscreen feels like I am putting diaper cream on my damn face!!!! I finally found one last year I liked from Good Molecules when they came out with one....felt good on my face and price point was great ($12) but it gave me a rash so I had to stop using it. I was so disappointed. The only one I can tolerate is the Hero sunscreen SPF 30..anything else again feels like diaper cream. I do not know what is the FDA's problem that they refuse to allow these new filters for sunscreen. It is beyond frustrating and probably a big reason a lot of people here do not use any. I just do not understand their reluctance when they were offered all the data proving the new filters are much better.
The onion SPF was so disappointing. It was so heavy feeling and could’ve been so much better. After they came out, Isintree was transparent about their intent to make their products more available internationally. So yes, I’m sure they’re trying to get into Sephora and Ulta by including US filters. If they were more forward with their intent BEFORE the new SPF’s came out I feel like they would’ve avoided a lot of frustration from customers.
Well said!! I still feel bad to this day that I let stylevana send me these (and with such excitement too…originally 🥲). I just never thought I had to ask, “do they contain avobenzone?” I mean, it’s isntree. I like their HA sunscreen, and I think we all expected these to be similar but better! Had they been clear up front, I would have known to pass, but been excited to hear they’re coming to our retailers. Sigh!
@@AliceintheRabbitHole exactly. I’ll gladly wait a couple weeks to get get my Korean SPF opposed to use something that’s going to feel heavy and irritate my skin.
Honestly the only possible explanation I can think of for the existence of the SPF 30 sun gel is if it's the one that'll be sold in American stores. That way they have the "American market" one and the "everywhere else" one with the original watery sun gel.
I was first excited and then confused by these, too. I don't shop Korean sunscreens to get old filters with low SPF and have to also wait forever to get them. If that's what I wanted I'd buy domestic in the nearest drugstore today. I mean, maybe you're right and they want to have some options they can sell in the US, but....overall I was disappointed by the same two you were. I bought the tone-up one because A.) I wanted to support a brand I love, and B.) it sounds like a great option for when my skin is sensitized from Adapalene, sounds very soothing. The other two are just a complete miss for me.
The fact that they spent 2-3 years to develop 3 sunscreens that use old unstable and low protection organic filters, and one with mineral filters is disappointing. Imagine what kind of incredible sunscreens they could have made with that money and time using the new filters.
@@Justin_Osugi Seriously! 2-3 years on crap filters?! Exactly, I just really don't understand why they'd risk their reputation on sunscreens that aren't adding anything new to both the US OR international market😒
I will say the mineral option is extremely well done! But phew, it’s just so hard to get excited about old school chemical filters 😩
Girl, I have to tell you. I am triggered by Stylevana at the moment. I placed an order May 22nd that was supposed to be delivered yesterday, finally, and USPS would not deliver it, because they claimed the postage was counterfeit. Told me to contact the sender. I find the customer service for Stylevana to be pretty much nonexistent, so I’ve just decided I will never be ordering from them again. I knew the prices were too good to be true, I don’t trust them anymore and I’ll pay a little bit more to get things from a more reputable retailer.
I haven't had good experiences with Stylevanna. Crossed them off my list!
Oh NO that’s still going on?? The counterfeit postage thing has been such a disaster, and sadly it’s affected a lot of legitimate international packages.
Personally I think you should still contact stylevana, but do it through their instagram DMs. Their email support is quite slow, but they are faster on insta. Hope that helps!
Omg I would be SO pissed !! I hope your order didn't cost a fortune. I ordered a sunscreen or something from them last year and it took forever to get here so I am never ordering from them again I don't care how good the price is. I hope you are able to get your package. Please post an update~~ I would love to hear. 😢😡♥️
Please post an update! This is terrible. Thank you for the heads up though! You saved me a lot of trouble 🙏
Am wtf??
Ok, I 💕 the Yam Root formulation.
Agreed. I think we all expect 50++++ from Korean brands in 2023. We believe in them. ☺️😎
Haha exactly!! I know y’all can do it, k-beauty brands!! 😆
Don’t care for most Korean sunscreens that have the older American filters… most of them are disappointing
Which ones?
@@lonewolf5969Isntree Onion Newpair sunscreen
Imo this is just 10 steps backwards !! I go to kbeauty BECAUSE they DON’T use US filters! I really hope this is the last of them 😭
I wasn't expecting the Andor recommendation hahaha After watching just the first episode, I was so disappointed that I didn’t continue. I might go on until that 4th episode
It starts SOOOO SLOW. But oh my goodness, by episode 4, you’ll be on the edge of your seat. It’s Star Wars as I know and love it, not “somehow palpatine returned”
I'd say your completely correct on your subceptions. Have you ever heard the term, They're so smart that they're stupid? Thats exactly why we love this Brands other Sunscreens. We love them because they didn't have the FDA regulation filters. They're comfortable and don't burn or irritate. I was glued for A minute till your finding on the new releases. I hope they don't change their Others.
Yuuuup. Really what needs to change is the US, not our beloved KB formulas 😔
It’s ridiculous that we are so far behind. Shouldn’t cosmetically elegant filters that people ENJOY be a top priority? In a country that battles skin cancer? I could wax poetic on this problem..
Oh man I was really excited to hear your thoughts on the onion one as a lover of the gel cream in that line. I didnt realize it was a collab with an american influencer tho.. seems weird bc I feel like theyd do fine in the us without a collaboration. Hmm every brand has misses I guess.
Yup, even my fav 🥺
I do hope they revisit the concept of an onion sunscreen, this time with the newer filters. Rooting for you isntree, pun only slightly intended 🤭
@AliceintheRabbitHole I hope so too! I was going to try it most likely but I honestly haven't tried many sunscreens with American chemical filters so I'm a little hesitant. So disappointing I was hoping it'd be a new fav!
Thanks for a great review, I love that you go into in depth about the products. Please make a review of the handful of tinted sunscreens that you have found🌞
Already commented but none of these products appeal to me. Also don’t understand the influencer collabs. They are annoying. These are my negative thoughts of the day. 😵💫
I don't really understand it either unless they're looking for a broader appeal and think influencers will help with that? Though I can sort of see glow by ramon since he's a cosmetic formulator...
Yeah. It’s a strange release even if the US market is the explanation. I guess they want to grow but…there’s a reason we all love Korean sunscreens as they are!
I don't get what the point of buying a korean sunscreen with american filters. At the very least american sunscreens tend to be water resistant. All the korean in the US ones offer is lighter textures in tiny tubes for the same price as an american spf double the size.
Good point! I’ve been trying to figure out how the regulations work on “waterproof” sunscreens in Korea, but I’m not getting too far with that. It’s actually something I’ll give the U.S. as we have strict guidelines on that concept.
Now if only we would approve new filters without the animal testing requirement 😩 UGH
@@AliceintheRabbitHole I've actually written to my state representatives asking them to advocate for the approval and testing of new filters. I doubt it will go anywhere, but maybe if we as a community took to doing that they would notice.
@@AliceintheRabbitHoleOldie Monod has a video explaining how Waterproof claims work in Korea. I think the concept is that Waterproof meams 40mins and super Waterproof 80 mins
I personally am a little thrown off at their new direction with this release and their 20% niacinimide and other actives serums (a la cosrx?) The onion newpair b5 ampoule was the last thing they dropped where i was like YES I NEED THIS.(which wasnt that long ago to be fair lol) I understand the desire to crossover into the US market, but that Cosrx vitamin e sunscreen did not prove to be very successful for them if i recall (also maybe because of the strong scent!) But still, I don't think i will be buying these. I have the issue of old school filters seeping into my eyes (sometimes hours after I apply and it dries down!) as to where i cannot see, and I will not be taking that risk with these. I would have been okay with lower spfs if they used the newer filters because they would probably be even more lightweight then our established favs, but this missed the mark imo. I also purchased a bunch of the abib sedum protection tube which i have just recently become obsessed with! I love that some sunscreens are using panthenol instead of niacinimide so I dont feel nervous layering them with my other millions of niacinimide containing products lol!
ITS SO COSRX. I get that cosrx is the more popular brand, but…isntree, you’re a better brand (🤐). Don’t follow: lead, Isntree.
Funny enough, I had that Niacinamide serum in my stylevana cart, but as I was double checking the ingredients I saw the 20% and noped it right out of my cart. Good lord, that’s the last thing I need lol.
I have definitely had an adventure with sunscreens.
I hate almost all of them, but I’ve finally found a combo that I absolutely love.
I use a FULL application of the Beauty of Joseon sunscreen and then a small amount of Australian Gold Tinted Sunscreen on top.
Absolutely a winning combination for me!
That does sound like a dreamy combo! The tint gives a bit of a foundation-like effect, I take it?
@@AliceintheRabbitHole yeah, it does give it a foundation effect and I really dislike the “dewy” look, so the drying effect the very small amount of Australian Gold I use takes down any shine I have without drying my skin.
I just tried the yam one this morning. I have oily combo skin and it's a cool day today so I doubt I'll get very shiny but it looks beautiful on. It's been almost 2 hours though and still feels tacky or like I for sure have something sitting on my skin. I didn't use any spf underneath either but I think would prefer my regular SPF that absorbs in well first then use this as a topper tint to blur.
No way these arent destined for US stores. I wonder if this will be in brick and mortar locations like an Ulta or if it will be online sales directly to the US. I would be very happy to get access to isntree locally, though the price point would definitely be higher than I'm used to seeing.
But yeah these SPFs are disappointing! Also collabing with Cassandra Bankson is so strange and random. I'd rather they not collaborate with anyone. Idk, It feels cash grabby? Overall, feels bad. :(
Yuuup, I cannot conceive of any other reason to make formulas that are US-approved out of Korea. It’s not a secret that our filters are outdated!
But yeah same thought. I do know that some people will never order from overseas, so this might be the only way to get Isntree in the hands of a larger audience (YESS more people need to try the onion toner lol!) But KB enthusiasts know there will be a markup, so I doubt we will change our shopping ways lol
Cassandra is so cringe worthy. What a bad influencer to collab with.
Not a fan of CB so wouldn’t buy anything associated with her. Also looked up California’s registry for estheticians and didn’t find her name listed so I am leery.
@@sophiarose8127 She has good intentions, but it seems like she's in a bubble of positive affirmation. She's also VERY insensitive about money and constantly says how $30 sunscreens for 50mL is so affordable when there are people who that's half a day of work.
Perhaps spf 30 is what some people need or want? I have a decent amount of melatonin so spf 30 is probably fine since I never stay outside during intense sun times anyway
Hooray, I've been hoping you would review these! :)
Now I'm not sure if I want to try these. Old filters can irritate my skin, that's why I love modern filters. Maybe just yam root, but their HA mineral spf is extremely drying for me, so I'm worried. You should try new reformulated axis-y spf, best mineral spf I have tried
Is the axis-y non-drying as well?
@@AliceintheRabbitHole yes, but they recommend it for combo and oily skin, so I'm not sure if it feels same for dry
Fresh is having 30% off their site if u need anything. I know u like some of their products and wanted to let u know because it was over the usual 20% off.
Oh rad thank you!! I’ve fallen behind on literally everything lately, so much appreciate the heads up 🙏
These are ... strange. In any case, since I found the Goodal Heartleaf sunscreen, everything else can go jump in a lake. My journey has ended. Also, I'm sure everyone thinks their favorites are the best, but for cleansing, the Isntree Yam Root Milk Cleanser followed by the Jordan Samuel Matinee Cream Cleanser has become the foundation of my routine. (And that's ANOTHER LGBT+-owned brand!) For reference, I have dehydrated, sensitive skin that will be 47 years old later this year. I'm not exactly acne prone, but I can definitely get red bumps and whiteheads if I'm not on my game. Those three products come with my highest recommendation.
Oh wow, and it’s a mineral sunscreen? Well that’s going in my cart haha! I also want to try Jordan Samuel so badly. Do you order direct or from Cult Beauty?
Tanks a lot! Purple one is so hyped so I had it in my cart for a while. Super light sunscreen for oily acne probed skin on old filters? Color correcting with no color? Nooo thanks.
I was bummed to see a loved Korean brand do US chem filter spf ???? Why we love Korean spf cause it's not US filters lots of us are allergic that's why we buy Korean spf it just makes no sense wth are they doing ??
I’m telling you, the more I think about it, the more I am TOTALLY convinced they’re planning to enter the U.S. stores. The packaging even says Kolmar - but this isn’t the Kolmar formula we all know lol!
So now the game begins of what retailer. My bets are on Ulta, as I can see them fitting in there (though we will all still shop Vana/YS lol!)
@@AliceintheRabbitHole yeppp ur right , let's just hope they don't do away with their other good spf and replace it with this trash. I mean they still can sell to US on Amazon isntree official so I don't understand people don't want the US formula it's the whole point of buying them so it defeats the purpose. Do they think they can just trick people into buying this stuff at an Ulta cause they aren't ingredients buffs it's all about the money I guess.
My theory is this is a trial run (hence not having the active ingredients panel/deep shades yet). But the thing is…that feels like the inverted way to go about this. I doubt KB enthusiasts are going to be jumping for joy at avobenzone/spf30…people who haven’t tried any KB might though. I mean, these cost less than Sephora sunscreens, and they might be better (? I wouldn’t know with my sensitivity lol)
So just…start with them here?
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When I first learned about these releases...😒. The whole dang thing still has me shaking my head...despite instantly recognizing the underlying motiv..erm, I mean cocepts.
Mm!! Much smhing was going on as I unboxed these! I was so excited for an onion newpair sunscreen.. 😔
@@AliceintheRabbitHole Here's hoping a new and better onion comes along soon!
@@AliceintheRabbitHole Same, and was hoping the yam root one would have chemical filters
I also can not use Avobenzone. I am thinking you might be right about the international market. I really like the Numbuzen Tone up. I also use it as a makeup. Looking forward to trying this new one.
I've been wondering if they were going to do a US release since I saw they were doing a collab with Cassandra. It really just doesn't make since for them to work with her formulating a product if they aren't. I also can't imagine they'd formulate with the older filters unless they had to. 😂
RIGHT. We’re even starting to see more of the Mexoryl/Parsol SLX formulas these days. …avobenzone as the uva filter? In 2023??
@@AliceintheRabbitHole I was so disappointed when Krave re-released Beet the Sun formulated to US regulations. I get it, but still WHY? 😂
I believe that I've seen first three episodes of Andor and it left a bit of 'meh' impression, good to know it will improve - I take your word for it. You should consider acting, that 'noooo, noooo!' inserted to the review was brilliantly conveying the message 😂 I ordered the onion sunscreen just out of curiosity - I have summer full of sunscreen trials to find the best one for myself, so let's see.
Hahaha so I actually am in quite a few films (as background) but there’s a lot of irony in that I don’t really watch a lot of movies. I’m in some jumpstreet movie? NCIS New Orleans. And…I forget what else (terrible, right)
But yes, I promise Andor gets SO good, and right around episode 4!
Spf 30 protect 96% of á 100% and spf 50 97% og á 100% - so the difference isn’t that big
Nooooo the Korean filters were what finally pulled me over to loving Korean skincare! So weird.
Edit: yes I absolutely agree that that's most likely what Isntree is trying to do (go international).
At my very small Sephora in Topeka, I believe Isntree is the only Korean brand featured. And they are VERY featured, as in a full half aisle display.
I believe ur thinking of Innisfree
@@matt8953Yes, definitely Innisfree but they also seem to do the same thing with their sunscreens as well.
Yeah, US stores are smart to stock K-Beauty, but it really is a HUGE problem that the FDA limits sunscreens. It means customers can’t have the full KB experience without ordering from overseas, and agreed that KB sunscreens are arguably the best part. It’s such a frustrating situation.
@matt8953 oops, yk what....you're right. Sorry everyone! Nevermind! Lol
I mean the point still stands aside from my Sephora anecdote.
@@jjayjae_ true, and they do with their sunscreens. They seem to use the chemical screens allowed by the U.S.'s FDA
I was disappointed with the new Isntree sunscreen release and will not purchase them. I like the rest of the Onion Newpair line, but I did not like that they used the US FDA approved chemical filters and not the new filters I can find in my preferred Korean and Japanese sunscreens. I love the rest of the Yam Root line, but I prefer new chemical filters, not mineral filters. I do like a few Korean and Japanese sunscreens that contain both new chemical filters and titanium dioxide in a combination product. I don’t understand who these new Isntree sunscreens are meant to be marketed to, but my guess is also the US.
Yeah agreed! Even their OG sunscreen has a mix of newer and older filters. Puzzling indeed!
I'm a bit disappointed, we don't need anymore SPFs with crappy filters😢I absolutely agree they want to sell them internationally, this is what I always think when I see Korean brands using ABSOLUTE FAILURES of US filters.
I really would like the onion one with new filters because I want something for oily skinnn
Hi Alice, butyloctyl salicylate seems to me to act as a chemical filter and is similar in structure to octisalate, which is present in yam root sunscreen. A big hug and I hope you are very well 🥰
Yup I agree! I appreciate that Lab Muffin has made several videos on the topic, although it certainly does make me side eye brands that make “chemical filters bad” claims and throw BS in their mineral sunscreen
…I should abbreviate that differently going forward 🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂😂....😢😢😢....and I was so excited about this new release of sunscreens!!!
Honestly, the collaboration with Cassandra made me more curious 😅
Anyway, this is definitely a pass for me....the SPF is not high enough and the filters disappointing....
Thanks Alice
Same!! I was SO excited. Quite the rollercoaster of emotions over here 😟
The hylauronic acid spf 30 isn't even much cheaper than the 50? Like, I was thinking that it would be OK to use in the winter when I don't need a super high spf if I can save some money, but no, they are both about $20. :/ The watery sun gel spf 50 is one of my favorite sunscreens so I'll probably stick with that.
Yeahhhh. I had high hopes for this release, but in the end I feel very: “🙁”
The watery sun gel is great though (and their sun stick is actually my favorite sun stick!)
What I’m wondering is, if I use a Korean product like beauty of Joseon, and then I put octocrylene etc… on top of it in the form of a skin teint, does that render the SPF ineffective?
Numbuzin No.3 really drying my skin badly!!I do my skin care really well moisture but still can't work with the sunscreen😢
Those darn salicylates! I made the mistake of trying a sunscreen with one and suffering for a week afterwards even though I washed it off as soon as it started burning (not stinging). I won’t make that mistake again.
Oh ouch! And they’re so commonplace now too 😩
Did they discount the yam root sun cream? I noticed it’s not on Amazon anymore
Great review!
I love Korean sunscreens, won't use anything but Korean.....i know this is random but have you ever heard of MATKAS Korean Triple Pure Hyaluronic Acid Serum...it has Niacinamide, peptides, and other good ingredients.
I haven’t heard of that! Sounds kind of similar to the RNW ceramide or Vegreen nature mucin?
Have u got the new P. calm line yet the active fit or whatever it's called it sounds interesting to me especially the toner that one is the most appealing to me .
I haven’t! The light active toner?
Oh whoa looking at the ingredients…niacinamide and txa? Interesting!
@@AliceintheRabbitHole yes that one..lol I always mix up the name but I have heard amazing things about it from a few Korean / jap skincare influencers and it's more of a light milky texture .
@@AliceintheRabbitHole a lot of the light active products are on the NSHALF sale! and so is their new spf🤐
Agree I think they are trying to get into the US market
I JUST found out about ultras summer sale!! Pleaseee tell me you’re doing a video on that!!
Oh no sadly I can’t fit it in. But always for the 50% off sales haha!
IMO the best deals in this sale are the BOGO minis. Bcuz 50% off 🤣🤣
I agree it is very odd. Have a great week ❌️ ⭕️
Thank you! You too 🥰
I'm sorry I've been so quiet. I'm trying to catch up on all I've missed. My little Merlin collapsed and died last week so I've been devastated and miserable.
Oh my gosh I’m so sorry to hear. It really is such a hard thing to deal with 😔 Sending you all the hugs 💙
I did the same thing!! I thought there was some mistake or misprint!!
I couldn’t believe my own eyes!
Cosrx did this with their vitamin E sunscreen too by using US filters but it isn't in stores... Also you kove Andor?? Yes!!!
Finally an explanation for how the empire took control!! I feel like Lucas himself tried with the prequels but he just never got there (“so this is how liberty dies” line being the closest).
@@AliceintheRabbitHole It's a masterpiece! I love you and your channel even more knowing you love Star wars. It took me too long to find you!
Yup haha, i can very much geek out on Star Wars. Or skincare. Or both!! 🤣
I think its available at Ulta and I think ive seen it at Jcpenney stores in their beauty section
@@puccapopular10 Interesting! I haven't seen it at Ulta but I don't go there often.
Wow… okay… lol I was also super confused about these 🤣
i supose they made the old chemical filters sunscreen so they can sell it in US
SPF 30 is for US market with zuS filters lol.
I saw the ingredients on these a few weeks ago and was so confused. Are they just trying to get into the American market so they can sell legitimately or what this is such a crock and let down ugh 😑
Does the tone up spf leave a semi matte finish? I am really hoping it's not that sort of drying matte formula like the isntree natural sunscreen or innisfree no sebum tone up spf. My biggest concern is if it is difficult to blend as most mineral spfs.
Semi matte yes! It’s actually not drying which is indeed rare. And for blending, do you mean in terms of time or difficulty? Because it’s not drying, it’s fairly easy to blend (vs the ones that try to dry in your eyebrows, ugh the worst 😑) but it’s still slow to work with, and more foundation-like in that sense. Hope that helps!
@@AliceintheRabbitHole The Numbuzin tone up sunscreen seems abit more drying/matte compared to the isntree tone up? I'm confused on which to pick. The onion or this. Isntree claims the onion sunscreen would be able to correct skin too, but on fair skin tones I think the correction would be very minimal?
If the game plan for Isntree and other Korean brands is too drag down their products to get US validation then it's damn sad but business is business I guess😅😅😅😅🤢🤢🤢
Can you review the ma:nyo sunscreen?
Sadly I didn’t pick that one up, but I still might in the future!
Is the yam Root sunscreen suited for oily acne prone Skin?
I have same question
Do you by any chance know of any true 100% Mineral sunscreens please Alice? Ones which don't contain the SPF Boosters mentioned by Lab Muffin in her Blog post (Butyloctyl salicylate, Tridecyl salicylate, Ethylhexyl methoxycrylene, Undecylcrylene dimethicone, Diethylhexyl syringylidene malonate and Benzotriazolyl dodecyl p-cresol)
Cocokind makes one
@@Hollyhock7 Many thanks! I will check it out
The new FAB weightless sunscreen! I was pretty impressed by that, although it does have its quirks in the tone/feel (probably for dry skin/fair skin tones - it’s in my most recent video if you want to see the application)
@@AliceintheRabbitHole Thank you so much 🤩 Fingers crossed that it comes to the UK soon!
omg I HATE the garbage sunscreen options here in the states...I have never found one that feels good on my skin. Every sunscreen feels like I am putting diaper cream on my damn face!!!! I finally found one last year I liked from Good Molecules when they came out with one....felt good on my face and price point was great ($12) but it gave me a rash so I had to stop using it. I was so disappointed. The only one I can tolerate is the Hero sunscreen SPF 30..anything else again feels like diaper cream. I do not know what is the FDA's problem that they refuse to allow these new filters for sunscreen. It is beyond frustrating and probably a big reason a lot of people here do not use any. I just do not understand their reluctance when they were offered all the data proving the new filters are much better.
What is Isntree going through? lol
Right lol!
Always 50
..4x+
50 pa++++
always otherwise get outta here!
The onion SPF was so disappointing. It was so heavy feeling and could’ve been so much better.
After they came out, Isintree was transparent about their intent to make their products more available internationally. So yes, I’m sure they’re trying to get into Sephora and Ulta by including US filters.
If they were more forward with their intent BEFORE the new SPF’s came out I feel like they would’ve avoided a lot of frustration from customers.
Well said!!
I still feel bad to this day that I let stylevana send me these (and with such excitement too…originally 🥲). I just never thought I had to ask, “do they contain avobenzone?” I mean, it’s isntree. I like their HA sunscreen, and I think we all expected these to be similar but better!
Had they been clear up front, I would have known to pass, but been excited to hear they’re coming to our retailers. Sigh!
@@AliceintheRabbitHole exactly. I’ll gladly wait a couple weeks to get get my Korean SPF opposed to use something that’s going to feel heavy and irritate my skin.
Pass. But thanks for letting us know as always! Lmao.
Hi Alice ❌️ ⭕️
Perhaps it’s allergies??? 🤷♀️❤
To the new filters? You know what, that’s a good point. These could be a good option for those who can’t use Tinosorb/Uvinul/Mexoryl