Really? You didn't know kingdom come? The most famous comicbook in the 90's and got big mention in supermam anniversary. But, Some fat guy told you that starfire and robin
***** I um... may or may not have never read a comic book cover-to-cover. Love the material. Hate the medium it's presented in. Teen Titans however, was awesome, and I wish it hadn't gotten brought back as... well, yeah.
+laz kar . . . which would be a very, very big and memorable fuckup. But no, you should read comics that were published in this century. I'm 44 and don't mind admitting, the stuff I grew up on is utter crap compared to what's been published since approximately 2000. Comics don't necessarily have to look like comics anymore, with the consistent paneling and the crude four-color palette. And every line of dialogue that isn't a question DOESN'T have to end in exclamation marks! Hell, some of them are even using lowercase letters as an ordinary novel would.
I gotta say, the actual son of Batman hooking up with the daughter of Batman's adopted son sounds kinda like hooking up with your niece. That's a little weird. Then again, they're not related by blood, and if it's good enough for Barry Allen...
It's really disappointing and kinda baffling that here we have Bob going "Ok, it's been THREE weeks since the film came out, let's talk spoilers *MASSIVE SPOILER WARNING**" And nowadays, we'll get spoiler talk articles or videos from reviewers within like, a day, and industry news websites spoiling stuff like The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones on the front fucking page within a week or less (in some cases, within a goddamn day) and Guardians of the Galaxy having damn near everything spoiled before the fucker was out in North America. Even some independent RUclips reviewers have seemingly stopped giving a fuck. What the hell happened?
Seriously. Looper is really bad when it comes to that. They'll have videos explaining the ending and listing "Easter eggs you might have missed" as early as opening weekend.
And the reason it has gotten all that flak since, even with all those nods, was that none of them worked in the way the wehre adapted. Bane had about as much to do with his namesake as the 98 US Zilla, Talia never had any chance to display herself as batmans physical and mental match (which is why people consider her a worthy rival to Selina Kyle in them comics) and Blake as Robin falls flat since he is never shown being any more capable then any regular detective. I know, all of these points has been raised many a times before, but the key component missing in all of of the above inclusions was buildup. In the comics, all these characters had years to acquire their role in the Batman mythos. In the movie, all of them end up as little more then name-checking to please the fans rather then adaptations of their respective comic book counterpart.
Considering Bob thinks Nolan's Batman movies rejected the comics, I'd be surprised if he knew Arnold Flass, Commissioner Loeb, Carmine Falcone and Sal Moroni were from the comics.
@@jamesmallone Oh please, litterally everyone who reads any Batman comic's knows about all of those characters, almost all of them are present in Year One.
Right, in fact a lot of directors get these fantasical images and scenes laid out but its up to people around them to say "well that isnt realistic" or that it is out of character and while you want them to create what they want to, if they are using an already established character, you have to take those into some consideration
Yep, but there were similar characters before that. There was a Duella Dent, the so-called "Joker's daughter" (which was what they intended to have Harley Quinn be in a planned 5th Batman film before Batman Bagins happened) and in the mini series Legends (which was the first big event mini after Crisis on Infinite Earth's and launched John Ostrander's Suicide Squad) there was a Joker groupie character that's now reminiscent of Quinn.
I've never agreed that there is anything wrong with _Rises._ Yes, there are huge holes in the plot, but the film earned my suspension of disbelief. If you keep me entertained, I'm a very forgiving viewer. The only real problem I have with it is, it's just plain exhausting, and leaves me in a state not unlike PTSD. But I could say that about TDK as well.
I always thought Teen Titans Robin would be much better matched with Teen Titans Raven. They have a good chemistry and deep friendship and understanding of one another and are both deeply psychologically healthy for each other; Raven's dour apathy-as-self-defense-mechanism turned cold pragmatism makes a great compliment to Robin's similar-to-Batman zealous adherence to moral principle that can help him stay within the realm of principled without overreaching into reckless pursuit of the untenable, while Robin's dark and grimly determined but ultimately thoroughly optimistic nature can uplift and stabilize Raven's more paralytic depression and anxiety driven tendencies. Also they both have bird themed names.
Actually, the movie did much more of the opposite and resisted going overboard with pandering. It made Bruce quit being Batman, and throughout the movie he wasn't out as Batman all that much. Nolan also did a lot of things that let the audience fill in the blanks themselves (mostly if they watched the first two films first) instead of just stating it out right.
1. I think it's pretty clear he's being sarcastic about the bold, loud spoiler warning Moviebob put in the video. 2. Actually, if you know the Adam West show and the other movies, but not the comics or the cartoons, (i.e. non -fans or casual fans) then no, you're not going to see some of this stuff coming. I'll grant you John Blake, I think pretty much everyone was thinking of Robin, but if you know Talia or Bane breaking the bat, it's because you know the comics, the cartoons or the video games. A lot of people watching the movies don't. I saw it with a family member who didn't know that stuff.
+laz kar The first Morlun story (which was also the first Ezekiel story) was incredible. But Morlun was DEAD at the end of it. DId they even explain how he came back in The Other? The Other was great in concept, but the abrupt changes in art style really ruined it. To go from Mike Deodato's realistic style to Mike Wieringo's outlandish-cartoon style is just too distracting.
I had mixed feelings about JMS's run when I originally read it (particularly it becoming the Peter, Aunt May and MJ show, with the occasional random cameo by Jameson just for a joke, and the high school teacher premise being a brilliant idea that was underutilized by JMS) but man oh man do I appreciate it more in hindsight since OMD and the flagship Spidey stories that have come out since. Peter just seems more mature and adult in JMS' run compared to the lame man-child he's been in the comics since.
for how much DC is willing to change on the whim that the fans didn't like it, kinda shows how big of wimps they were (and are). Kind of sad since I'm the one who holds their company honorarily as the owners of the most "iconic" superheroes even though there hasn't been a Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, or even a Martian Man-Hunter movies recently, even little kids and grandparents would know who they are more than any of The Avengers and X-Men combined; though it doesn't mean they're better
Damian Wayne is one of the best PoC characters in DC and I especially love the timeline where he actually became Batman and fought satan, check out my look at it & more here: lidoshuffle1.blogspot.com/2015/07/panel-vision-comic-book-futures.html
There are two major pronunciation mistakes in how most people pronounce that name. First one is the "Z" sound at the end of "Raz" or "Ra's"; that should be an "S" sound. (also the vowel in the middle of that word is not really a typical vowel if a vowel at all, but I don't fully understand how Arabic utilizes vowels and consonants, so I'll leave that one at that). The second major mistake is the first sound of the last word. What people usually pronounce as a hard "G" sound (as in "gift") at the beginning of "Ghul", is actually a sound in Arabic that doesn't exist in english; called the "غ" sound (that symbol I used is the letter "غين" in Arabic, I don't know what the "International Phonetic Alphabet" symbol for it is). If you search google for "نطق الغين" (meaning, "Pronouncing the غين") you'll find a number of videos of people pronouncing it. In summary, it's pronounced "رأس الغول"; and there is no easy way to transfer that into english sounds. (Google translate pronounces it in a correct if strange and funny way.. paste رأس الغول into the translate field after you change the "from" language to arabic, then press the speaker icon at the bottom of the field if you want to hear it) And on the subject of pronunciation in the different Batman adaptations, I've only heard that name pronounced in "The Dark Knight Rises", and yeah, they make all of the usual mistakes. Hope that helped. If you have any more questions, go right ahead; I'll be happy to answer them or get them to my Arabic teacher if they're beyond my current level of knowledge of the language.
That was, entirely,... not enough. I get that it's not your job to explain WTF'ever is supposedly "good" about "B A T M A N!!!!", but this doesn't even make me interested enough to research it all.
R-robin and Starfire...?
MY LIFE IS COMPLETE.
Thank you based Bob.
Really? You didn't know kingdom come? The most famous comicbook in the 90's and got big mention in supermam anniversary. But, Some fat guy told you that starfire and robin
***** I um... may or may not have never read a comic book cover-to-cover. Love the material. Hate the medium it's presented in.
Teen Titans however, was awesome, and I wish it hadn't gotten brought back as... well, yeah.
+laz kar . . . which would be a very, very big and memorable fuckup.
But no, you should read comics that were published in this century. I'm 44 and don't mind admitting, the stuff I grew up on is utter crap compared to what's been published since approximately 2000. Comics don't necessarily have to look like comics anymore, with the consistent paneling and the crude four-color palette. And every line of dialogue that isn't a question DOESN'T have to end in exclamation marks! Hell, some of them are even using lowercase letters as an ordinary novel would.
I gotta say, the actual son of Batman hooking up with the daughter of Batman's adopted son sounds kinda like hooking up with your niece. That's a little weird. Then again, they're not related by blood, and if it's good enough for Barry Allen...
It's really disappointing and kinda baffling that here we have Bob going "Ok, it's been THREE weeks since the film came out, let's talk spoilers *MASSIVE SPOILER WARNING**" And nowadays, we'll get spoiler talk articles or videos from reviewers within like, a day, and industry news websites spoiling stuff like The Walking Dead and Game of Thrones on the front fucking page within a week or less (in some cases, within a goddamn day) and Guardians of the Galaxy having damn near everything spoiled before the fucker was out in North America. Even some independent RUclips reviewers have seemingly stopped giving a fuck. What the hell happened?
Seriously. Looper is really bad when it comes to that. They'll have videos explaining the ending and listing "Easter eggs you might have missed" as early as opening weekend.
And the reason it has gotten all that flak since, even with all those nods, was that none of them worked in the way the wehre adapted.
Bane had about as much to do with his namesake as the 98 US Zilla, Talia never had any chance to display herself as batmans physical and mental match (which is why people consider her a worthy rival to Selina Kyle in them comics) and Blake as Robin falls flat since he is never shown being any more capable then any regular detective.
I know, all of these points has been raised many a times before, but the key component missing in all of of the above inclusions was buildup. In the comics, all these characters had years to acquire their role in the Batman mythos. In the movie, all of them end up as little more then name-checking to please the fans rather then adaptations of their respective comic book counterpart.
You are aware you'be basically described every comic to movie adaptation ever.
Hey did Bob ever figure out that John Blake WAS a character in batman comics, he's the kid who got his report card stolen by the Joker.
Almost as evil as when Lex Luthor stole 40 cakes
Considering Bob thinks Nolan's Batman movies rejected the comics, I'd be surprised if he knew Arnold Flass, Commissioner Loeb, Carmine Falcone and Sal Moroni were from the comics.
@@jamesmallone Oh please, litterally everyone who reads any Batman comic's knows about all of those characters, almost all of them are present in Year One.
2:01 That's a lot of ear. Imagine going through doors, or getting in the Bat-mobile with those pointing up your head.
Actually, Talia left for opposite reasons. Batman was taking TOO many risks to protect her and the baby that she was afraid he'd get killed.
Christopher Nolan hadn't read a comic book before TDKR? There were shots in the previous dark knight films that were straight out of comic books.
That was thanks to his cinematographers and people working with him,
blissfullycat02 What's to say that his cinematographers and people working with him didn't help make TDKR closer to the comic books.
Right, in fact a lot of directors get these fantasical images and scenes laid out but its up to people around them to say "well that isnt realistic" or that it is out of character and while you want them to create what they want to, if they are using an already established character, you have to take those into some consideration
That was obviously hyperbole on Bob's part, not a statement of fact.
Yeah, like when Batman escaped from the police using a swarm of bats in Batman begins, that was taken from Batman Year One.
2:00 robo batman.
the badass levels are off the scales!
2:06 wait, I thought he was the mutant son of Sean Connery and Darth Vader, or do I have his pedigree wrong?
Tim Drake, Tom Blake. It all makes sense now.
Wait, Quinn was in TAS before the comics?
Yep, but there were similar characters before that. There was a Duella Dent, the so-called "Joker's daughter" (which was what they intended to have Harley Quinn be in a planned 5th Batman film before Batman Bagins happened) and in the mini series Legends (which was the first big event mini after Crisis on Infinite Earth's and launched John Ostrander's Suicide Squad) there was a Joker groupie character that's now reminiscent of Quinn.
I've never agreed that there is anything wrong with _Rises._ Yes, there are huge holes in the plot, but the film earned my suspension of disbelief. If you keep me entertained, I'm a very forgiving viewer. The only real problem I have with it is, it's just plain exhausting, and leaves me in a state not unlike PTSD. But I could say that about TDK as well.
I always thought Teen Titans Robin would be much better matched with Teen Titans Raven. They have a good chemistry and deep friendship and understanding of one another and are both deeply psychologically healthy for each other; Raven's dour apathy-as-self-defense-mechanism turned cold pragmatism makes a great compliment to Robin's similar-to-Batman zealous adherence to moral principle that can help him stay within the realm of principled without overreaching into reckless pursuit of the untenable, while Robin's dark and grimly determined but ultimately thoroughly optimistic nature can uplift and stabilize Raven's more paralytic depression and anxiety driven tendencies.
Also they both have bird themed names.
I was mostly stoic about this until the whole bird thing. They have so much in common!
I noticed that Jon Blake his last name sounds like Drake as in Tim Drake.
You know whats funny is we ARE getting a new batman lol
Actually, the movie did much more of the opposite and resisted going overboard with pandering. It made Bruce quit being Batman, and throughout the movie he wasn't out as Batman all that much. Nolan also did a lot of things that let the audience fill in the blanks themselves (mostly if they watched the first two films first) instead of just stating it out right.
I can't tell, does this video have SPOLIERS in it? it's so confusing and I would hate to be SPOLIED when I watch the movie.
1. I think it's pretty clear he's being sarcastic about the bold, loud spoiler warning Moviebob put in the video.
2. Actually, if you know the Adam West show and the other movies, but not the comics or the cartoons, (i.e. non
-fans or casual fans) then no, you're not going to see some of this stuff coming. I'll grant you John Blake, I think pretty much everyone was thinking of Robin, but if you know Talia or Bane breaking the bat, it's because you know the comics, the cartoons or the video games. A lot of people watching the movies don't. I saw it with a family member who didn't know that stuff.
Can you talk about Spider Man : coming Home? You know, the one with the power sucking dude and Ezekiel?
+laz kar The first Morlun story (which was also the first Ezekiel story) was incredible. But Morlun was DEAD at the end of it. DId they even explain how he came back in The Other?
The Other was great in concept, but the abrupt changes in art style really ruined it. To go from Mike Deodato's realistic style to Mike Wieringo's outlandish-cartoon style is just too distracting.
I had mixed feelings about JMS's run when I originally read it (particularly it becoming the Peter, Aunt May and MJ show, with the occasional random cameo by Jameson just for a joke, and the high school teacher premise being a brilliant idea that was underutilized by JMS) but man oh man do I appreciate it more in hindsight since OMD and the flagship Spidey stories that have come out since. Peter just seems more mature and adult in JMS' run compared to the lame man-child he's been in the comics since.
for how much DC is willing to change on the whim that the fans didn't like it, kinda shows how big of wimps they were (and are). Kind of sad since I'm the one who holds their company honorarily as the owners of the most "iconic" superheroes
even though there hasn't been a Wonder Woman, Flash, Aquaman, or even a Martian Man-Hunter movies recently, even little kids and grandparents would know who they are more than any of The Avengers and X-Men combined; though it doesn't mean they're better
Everybody got all that?
Good, cause its gonna get more confusing once MovieBob talks about the Robins Batman had as a partner.
As a Teen Titan fan, I am happy.
Movies and comics are weird, but the Batman ones just might be THE weirdest.
Well... That answers some things.
Damian Wayne is one of the best PoC characters in DC and I especially love the timeline where he actually became Batman and fought satan, check out my look at it & more here: lidoshuffle1.blogspot.com/2015/07/panel-vision-comic-book-futures.html
OHHHHHhhh! "Ra's al Ghul" ..
I study Arabic and I've never noticed that before!
There are two major pronunciation mistakes in how most people pronounce that name.
First one is the "Z" sound at the end of "Raz" or "Ra's"; that should be an "S" sound. (also the vowel in the middle of that word is not really a typical vowel if a vowel at all, but I don't fully understand how Arabic utilizes vowels and consonants, so I'll leave that one at that).
The second major mistake is the first sound of the last word.
What people usually pronounce as a hard "G" sound (as in "gift") at the beginning of "Ghul", is actually a sound in Arabic that doesn't exist in english; called the "غ" sound (that symbol I used is the letter "غين" in Arabic, I don't know what the "International Phonetic Alphabet" symbol for it is).
If you search google for "نطق الغين" (meaning, "Pronouncing the غين") you'll find a number of videos of people pronouncing it.
In summary, it's pronounced "رأس الغول"; and there is no easy way to transfer that into english sounds.
(Google translate pronounces it in a correct if strange and funny way.. paste رأس الغول into the translate field after you change the "from" language to arabic, then press the speaker icon at the bottom of the field if you want to hear it)
And on the subject of pronunciation in the different Batman adaptations, I've only heard that name pronounced in "The Dark Knight Rises", and yeah, they make all of the usual mistakes.
Hope that helped.
If you have any more questions, go right ahead; I'll be happy to answer them or get them to my Arabic teacher if they're beyond my current level of knowledge of the language.
Chocolate Bars and Rainbows
I loved this movie seen
Goddamn it Bob. It's (pronounced) Raish Al Ghul, not Ra's
Says who?
His creators, Talia in the animated series, anyone who actually knows
Alex Austin I see. I still think Raas sounds better than Reysh.
It probably does honestly, I was just being an asshole when I said this.
Alex Austin No you weren't.
magical unicorns poop candy and piss rainbows
That was, entirely,... not enough.
I get that it's not your job to explain WTF'ever is supposedly "good" about "B A T M A N!!!!", but this doesn't even make me interested enough to research it all.
I really hate the alternate universe idea. It's just so lazy.
It's pronounced Resh.
So much butthurt in this video. Rises was a good movie.