Could you do I video on the etna class cruisers? I'd be interested to see if they would have made any difference in the Franco Thai war had they been finished in time
Hi Drach. Can you do a video on what happens to a crew whose ship sinks? I always hear “survivors picked up by X ship’ but then nothing about what happens next.
I was wondering, if you took Bismarck away from the fight that sent her to the depths and replaced her with Musashi (or Yamato) in her 1941 configuration (assuming she has suffered the same damaged rudder as bismarck prior to the fight so she cant just run), would she be able to survive/win the fight against the KGV Nelson and other RN ships? Also, apologies if this queston is phrased in an unclear or overly complicated manner
Refueled Little Rock many times in the Med in the early 70's while on the Truckee. She was a beautiful ship. Loved watching her breakaway. Very majestic.
Little Rock is a museum ship in Buffalo. Slept aboard with kid's scout troop many years ago. Was a real beauty then, hope she's being kept up. She seems a lot bigger than what you'd call a "light" anything. USS The Sullivans is also there, and a GUPPY sub.
James Stark, I was a Gunner's Mate in the "Rock" from '69-'72. I remember refueling from you guys. I was the forward line throwing gun responsible for sending the messenger across to the Truckee a few times. Always enjoyed that!
Drachinifel didn't mentioned one of the naval battles that made the Cleveland class so famous: Empress Augusta Bay naval battle, one of the most famous cruiser vs cruiser battle of the Pacific front...
It is sad that the era of the big gun warships is over. There is something very appealing about a 30kt+ heavily armored turbine powered warship packing multiple triple gun turrets.
While true, the modern era of massive missile salvos and CIWS (radar-controlled gatling guns spewing out laser beams of cannon rounds to shoot down missiles as they approach a ship), and jet-launching carriers is still pretty damn cool itself. That, and the fact that big-gun warships suffered from the problem of terrible hit rates.
@@Raptor747 Yes the new stuff is indeed cool. But it's cool like a new high speed rail train is cool; the old gunships are cool like a 1930s-1950s Super Chief luxury passenger train is cool. It's not about efficiency, it's about style.
The USS Little Rock is now a museum ship moored at the Naval and Military Park in Buffalo NY along with the destroyer the USS The Sullivans and the Gato class submarine USS Croaker . Buffalo NY is located at the far Eastern end of Lake Erie .
@luvr381 No, she was rescued and repaired. That is the problem with ships that are 80 years old, their hull plating can become weak and prone to leaks. USS Kidd, The Sullivan's sister ship in Baton Rouge, just departed for the shipyard to have work done on her hull plating.
USS Little Rock is ported here at the Buffalo Naval Park in Buffalo, NY. Last of the Cleveland and Galveston\Providence Class. We recognize her Cold War service and the service of her sister ships, CLG-3, 5, 6, 7, 8. Did you know in June, 1970 the Rock collided with the Greek destroyer, Lonchi. We tell that story as the "new" rivets on her bow are quite noticeable. Thanks for putting together this video, Drachinifel! Also, we offer many videos about USS Little Rock on our own RUclips Channel.
One of these, Montpelier, had an exciting career. More battle stars than any USN ship except Enterprise. (or not!) (as shown in "Pacific War Diary). ---- After a tour in the South Pacific the crew noticed the ship was a little sluggish when turning. When the ship went to dry dock they found out why. There was a nice, neat 24" hole in the rudder.
My Uncle was a captain of one of the Cleveland class ships that were converted into guided missile cruisers “CLG 7 The USS Springfield”, I remember hearing him talk about it a couple of times, he always sounded extremely proud to be able to captain a ship that held so much history as well as in his words “a damn fine crew”. Miss you Uncle V.O…
My dad served on CL-57, USS Montpelier, which saw extensive service in the Pacific, from the Solomons to the occupation of Japan. An excellent book by a plank holder, James Fahey (Pacific War Diary - published by the Naval Institute Press) shows how one of the deck gang lived and fought (on a 40mm quad Bofors mount). Amazing ship, amazing crew. Thanks, Drachinifel, for a quick look at a remarkable class. A deep dive into a single Cleveland might be in order, once you see where she earned all her battle stars, and the amazing destruction that could be wrought by those rapid-fire, radar-guided six inchers
Live pretty close to Buffalo NY where Little Rock where is located. The Fletcher class destroyer USS Sullivans and Gato class sub USS Croaker are also there. Did an over night visit back in scouts when I was 10 or so, she's an interesting visit. We kept a lot of battleships but not a lot of what's there at the museum, Little Rock was the only WW2 era cruiser to survive and though her entire rear half was reconfigured to carry the Talos missile system she does still carry some interesting ww2 artifacts like her admirals bridge (was configured as a flag ship) and still has her forward 6 inch gun. Was interesting to compare her to the Massachusetts which I visited two years later.
used to drive by it everyday on my way to work they expanded. the Sullivan's is getting money together for emergency hull repairs it was delayed by covid and started flooding
@@ramal5708 did mention she is in her guided missile configuration the entire rear superstructure was the holding room for the missiles, just did mention there are still WW2 parts left like the admirals bridge and facilities and the 6 inch forward gun. Believe she still carries the designation CG 4 rather than CL 92
@@bskorupk We fixed that. About 35 years ago ;) Along with the rest of the Great Lakes. Despite all the corporations and crooked politicians who tried to stop us.. It was a huge victory for the environment that many have forgotten, and would be wise to remember today as proof that we can succeed despite the odds being all against us.
@@stevewindisch7400 The "HASTILY MADE CLEVELAND TOURISM VIDEO" Is a decade-old meme I wanted to see if people still got, I also keep meeting people who haven't heard that Indian Railways Abolished nearly all of both it's Narrow-Gauge and Steam Traction in the mid-late 90's! :)
Ian and Drach have a lot in common. They both have encyclopædic knowledge of their topics, enormous enthusiasm for them and great communication skills. This enables them to enthuse people who would not ordinarilly be very interested in their subjects. The fact that they both have an excellent sense if humour is the icing on the cake.
@@notshapedforsportivetricks2912 Ian giggles like an evil 12 y/o girl when he finishes a 100 round mag dump from a .22 fully auto "police rifle". I can't imagine Drach's response to triggering a full broadside.
Thank you so much. My dad was a pilot that was assigned to the USS Cleveland as soon as she appeared on the west coast. She carried the OSC Seagull biplane instead of the Kingfisher most of the other cruisers and battleships did. My dad said it was a much more stable and reliable aircraft than the Kingfisher and he enjoyed flying it, although it was slower and more vulnerable to enemy gunfire. He used to laugh that all he had for armament was 2 smoke rockets, a .38 revolver, and a K20 camera.
@@CorePathway The 6 inch guns on Clevelands were not autoloading. However, I do believe they were a fixed round which speeded up loading. Not sure about that though. Definitely not autoloading.
She is an interesting visit we kept a lot of battleships, but she was the only cruiser add in the Sullivans not a lot of destroyers kept as well. Buffalo Naval park is a bit unique compared to the battleship museums. Kind of glad I live near it.
My dad has a picture of the USS Helena running behind the USS Cleveland when it took a kamikaze in the #3 turret. She didn't fair so well during the war.
I was stationed on the USS Oklahoma City (CLG 5) in the Western Pacific the early 1970s. They were beautiful ships, and pretty good sea keepers, though they did have a long roll. Great memories! Thanks for the video.
No, I got to the ship about six months after the war “ended” (for us). I’ve seen a couple of reasonably good accounts of that operation on the internet, though.
Drach, FYI. Buffalo NY is not on the US east coast. The state of NY has a bit of an internal rivalry between the area around New York City, and the rest (Upstate NY). So calling Buffalo "east coast" is an unintended insult to those living there. Think of the row it would cause if you called a Londoner a Scottsman. P.S. -Still love your videos though!
My uncle was a gunners mate on a Sumner-class destroyer in 1944. He was on an older destroyer that was sunk in 42. He never talked about it. He said the Cleveland’s were good ships but they really like it when an Atlanta class cruiser showed up
@@robert48044 Earlier than that she was a monster when basic firing training and advance firing training applied up to 152mm...about the only good thing about the USN Cruiser split was that you got the Brooklyn class in game, which then informs on the IJN Mogami line of development
I remember a wargaming podcast where the game designer was describing the challenges of balancing a Pacific War, pointing out that by the mid-late war, the US and Japan had both lost a huge chunk of their pre-war navies... but the US had managed to build essentially an entire new navy in the meantime, whereas Japan had... not
By preserved on the East Coast, Drach means Buffalo, NY on Lake Erie, above Niagara Falls and across the water from Ontario. USS Little Rock and USS Sullivans are docked together with a WW2/Cold War USN fleet submarine on the downtown waterfront.
Been to the Little Rock a couple of times. It is ww2 in the front and cold war in the rear. Really big compared to the fletcher that is right next to it.
I had the honor of serving aboard the USS Springfield (CL-66/CLG-7/CG-7) in 71' and 72', Flag Hoist/Radio Call Sign: November - Whiskey - Delta - Mike "Fair Winds and Following Seas" Brothers.
My first duty station after completing boot camp was a precommisding detail in NOB Norfork, for the USS Cleveland LPD 7. She was commissioned in April 1967. I am a Plank Owner and made my first Westpac cruise aboard her.
Good Saturday morning. Drach's offering talks about what is probably MY favorite WWII USN cruiser. He's correct about none being lost during the war, though as often as the Clevelands managed to find fights and get it stuck in this fact is very surprising. For a prewar design they were surprisingly rugged, and the lessons learned about damage control enabled Houston and others to live, be repaired and take the fight back to the enemy.
Ah yes, I remember growing up in Buffalo, and visiting the Buffalo Naval museum and touring the Little Rock. Its a great museum to visit if you ever make it state-side. They have the three ships, a few airplanes and other assorted ground vehicles to check out
uss Little Rock is an amazing ship to visit. Slept aboard her twice as a kid intend to go back as an adult. shes moored up with DD uss Sullivan's and a sub uss Croager in Buffalo NY.
Dad's ship USS Birmingham CL-62. Served at invasion of Sicily, transferred to South Pacific. Solomons 2 bombs and a torpedo, Gilberts, Marshalls, Marianas, Phillipine Sea, carrier Princeton blew up along side her off Samar killing and wounding nearly 650 men during firefighting operations, actions off Formosa, Iwo, and Okinawa where she took a kamikaze. One tough fightin' ship.
@@alfredmiller7232 Yes, Okinawa was her last campaign during the war. Dad said they were on their way in August to participate in the invasion of the home islands when the Captain announced to everyone over the 1MC that the war was over. They were almost in disbelief this word came so suddenly and unexpectedly. Guys were becoming fatalistic because of the Kamikazes. Sailors were thinking it was just a matter of time before they would be killed if the invasion went forward. When they heard this word, they not only cheered, but grabbed each other, hugging, laughing and crying all at the same time. The ship went into a 360° turn and tried to sound it's collision siren, but it malfunctioned as an anticlimax. Glad your father made it thru. 🙏 🙌 👏 ❤️ 👍
Yay, you finally made it! and a week before my birthday! Thank you so very much for doing my suggestion. ^_^ Wish you had mentioned one of her most famous battles, the battle of Empress Augusta Bay.
Ahh USS Cleveland... My favorite ship in WoWS... Until they moved her up to Tier 8. She was a Beast at T6, and I Loved brawling in her against destroyers and cruisers, harassing enemy BBs to draw fire away from mine, assisting in AA defense with its respectable AA battery... Cleveland was *Fun.* And I miss it. At Tier 8, she's just another light cruiser...
My uncle served on the USS Vincennes (CL-64), was part of the original crew that took her from the Boston area to sea trials and to the Pacific. He went overboard during one of her first surface engagements and was picked up after several Hrs. by the USS Mugford (DD-389). He remained on the Mugford until he was killed by a Kamikaze attack on 5 Dec 44 in the Surigao Strait of the Philippines.
This class didn’t let “perfect” become the enemy of “very good.” All 52 came home, along with eight of the nine Independence-class CVLs that were built on the same hull.
Another great video drach , am glad you & the doctor made it back from Jersey safely + hope all is well on the home front . Keep up the good work , take care & best wishes.
I used to love this ship as a T6 ship in WoWS. They modeled the secondary battery correctly, and running a secondary build was fun for dumpstering DD's. While not an OP build, it was fun. This was in the 0.4.0- 0.5.0 patch era for WoWS. Plus running that build really buffed your AA, on ship that was known for down right lethal AA. Making CV player's cry was a Secondary bonus :P
1:03 - I love the cross section map. Some fun info there if you take a look. I had no idea that there was an individual compartment set aside just for potatoes! 😉
The potato was the weapon of choice for at least one crewman topside when the USS Buckley rammed a U-Boat in the Atlantic. Another weapon was a heavy ceramic Navy coffee mug.
The USS Little Rock is in an East Coast state, but is not on the East Coast. It is in Buffalo Harbor off of Lake Erie in New York State, and the open water is to the west. Two of the Clevelands were to be named after the City of Buffalo, but one became an Independence class light carrier and the other was canceled.
USN manning increased greatly as extra AA and radar systems went on the ships as the war progressed. These required additional crews to operate the weapons as well as technicians to maintain and repair them. Space got pretty tight on the prewar classes as the original number of racks available didn't predict this amount of growth.
There are surely dozens of warships that are recommended for future videos, but one little known ship that might be considered is HMCS Saguenay (WWII version). She saw combat, was seriously damaged twice and had a heroic ships company (my grandfather being one of them). The ship was reincarnated many years later with an upgraded design, which was eventually sunk as a coral reef. If you have the time, please do a video of it. Thanks.
Regarding the USS Little Rock, I'm not sure that Lake Erie qualifies as the "east coast". The ship, in it's guided missile cruiser form, is now a museum ship in Buffalo, New York, and many years ago my son and I had the honor of sleeping aboard one night along with our scout troop.
I think, geographically speaking, new york is considered east coast. Thats probably what he was referring to. Georgia is technically "east coast" tho only savannah is really on the cost.
I am no expert on US naval history by any means, however, during my assignment to an old FFG class boat in '79 -' 80, i observed some pretty big missile cruisers (CG's, CGN's) down the piers. I remember the Chicago, and some other old boats, i think at least one was a Talos boat (one of these guys shot down a NV mig that got too close), during my assignment to FFG-2 Ramsey, at 32nd Street Naval Station, SD, CA. But these were built on old cruisers, so i think that whole history is pretty entertaining. I'm sure you already covered a couple of these boats in prior episodes.
Chicago CG-11 and Albany CG-10 were converted Baltimore class Heavy Cruisers. Boston CAG-1 was the first ship converted to a Guided Missile Cruiser. She still had her 8 inch turrets forward and twin 5 inch mounts with Talos launcher aft. Chicago and Albany had no guns, 3 missile launchers.
It seems like a lot of people think the Navy was surprised when carriers assumed prominence over battleships, yet increasing AA was a design goal for years before the Pearl Harbor attack.
Any Chance on doing a video on the USS Little Rock Specifically? My Grandfather served on board in the 60's and it would be awesome to hear more about her history.
Would you want to do an episode on explosive flash? I am not clear on flash being the effect of the gas from the detention or from the radiational energy, or a combination of both. The RN was big into crew protection, hoods and masks. The USN, at east in WWII seemed less worried, especially in the Pacific.
First time commenting, great videos, also loved napalms videos with your contributions, wish he did more. Would love a video on the Dutch cruiser Tromp or the Marblehead.
Pinned post for Q&A :)
Can you turn intro music louder, please? =)
Could you do I video on the etna class cruisers? I'd be interested to see if they would have made any difference in the Franco Thai war had they been finished in time
Hi Drach. Can you do a video on what happens to a crew whose ship sinks? I always hear “survivors picked up by X ship’ but then nothing about what happens next.
I was wondering, if you took Bismarck away from the fight that sent her to the depths and replaced her with Musashi (or Yamato) in her 1941 configuration (assuming she has suffered the same damaged rudder as bismarck prior to the fight so she cant just run), would she be able to survive/win the fight against the KGV Nelson and other RN ships?
Also, apologies if this queston is phrased in an unclear or overly complicated manner
@@Blackjack701AD he's done a video on surviving the sinking of your ship.
ruclips.net/video/rbX8rJMI9GM/видео.html
Clevebro best bro
>13 battle stars
Yep, best bro
Montpelier approves
@@gkhar1577 U-556(if I remember correctly), disapproves. Bisko rules supreme(no she doesn't, I love them both).
Clevekigal/Ereshland is best bro, indeed.
"Zenshin aru nomi!"
US Navy of the 1910s:Please sir, may I have some more?
US Navy of the 1940s:Ah, yes, add 52 Cleveland class to the order rolls please.
US Navy of the 2000s: Laughs in 78 Arleigh Burke class
@@evanchan4012 And 3 (count em! 3!) Zumwalts
@@loadeddice4696 Tico
331 Fletcher/Sumner/Gearings
@@evanchan4012 More like US Navy of 2000s: laughs in 12 nuclear powered Aircraft Carriers and full fleets of necessary escorts.
Refueled Little Rock many times in the Med in the early 70's while on the Truckee. She was a beautiful ship. Loved watching her breakaway. Very majestic.
Little Rock is a museum ship in Buffalo. Slept aboard with kid's scout troop many years ago. Was a real beauty then, hope she's being kept up. She seems a lot bigger than what you'd call a "light" anything. USS The Sullivans is also there, and a GUPPY sub.
@@SteamCrane She's still in fair shape. The Sullivans sprung a leak and the museum was raising funds for repairs.
@@swaghauler8334 Thanks!
James Stark, I was a Gunner's Mate in the "Rock" from '69-'72. I remember refueling from you guys. I was the forward line throwing gun responsible for sending the messenger across to the Truckee a few times. Always enjoyed that!
Sometime in the mid 80's the Truckee had a collision at sea during an unrep with some tender (I think it was the Puget Sound?).
Drachinifel didn't mentioned one of the naval battles that made the Cleveland class so famous: Empress Augusta Bay naval battle, one of the most famous cruiser vs cruiser battle of the Pacific front...
True That!
The Japanese Light Cruiser Sendai was given a 6” Shell Infusion by the Clevelands during that battle.
@@CFRF13
Sendai had a 6” Send-off 😂
I'm sure we'll see the battle of Empress Augusta Bay in an upcommig episode on Drachs' series on the Solomon Islands campaign.
@@KoningFelix1 I see, so probably, after Guadalcanal campaign, it's Bougainville campaign... Interesting
It is sad that the era of the big gun warships is over. There is something very appealing about a 30kt+ heavily armored turbine powered warship packing multiple triple gun turrets.
Yeah and the sound of Artillery firing is akin to an orchestra playing
On the bright side, a lot less asbestos on these newer ships.
While true, the modern era of massive missile salvos and CIWS (radar-controlled gatling guns spewing out laser beams of cannon rounds to shoot down missiles as they approach a ship), and jet-launching carriers is still pretty damn cool itself. That, and the fact that big-gun warships suffered from the problem of terrible hit rates.
@@Raptor747 Not when Ching Lee is in charge of gunnery.
@@Raptor747
Yes the new stuff is indeed cool. But it's cool like a new high speed rail train is cool; the old gunships are cool like a 1930s-1950s Super Chief luxury passenger train is cool. It's not about efficiency, it's about style.
As someone who enjoys using destroyers in WoW these things and their damn Brooklyn cousins are the bane of my existence.
They just melted ships before the change
In Blitz, Brooklyn was the first ship I got that wasnt scared of DDs!!!👍😁
The USS Little Rock is now a museum ship moored at the Naval and Military Park in Buffalo NY along with the destroyer the USS The Sullivans and the Gato class submarine USS Croaker . Buffalo NY is located at the far Eastern end of Lake Erie .
Unfortunately The Sullivans is sinking.
@luvr381 No, she was rescued and repaired. That is the problem with ships that are 80 years old, their hull plating can become weak and prone to leaks. USS Kidd, The Sullivan's sister ship in Baton Rouge, just departed for the shipyard to have work done on her hull plating.
USS Little Rock is ported here at the Buffalo Naval Park in Buffalo, NY. Last of the Cleveland and Galveston\Providence Class. We recognize her Cold War service and the service of her sister ships, CLG-3, 5, 6, 7, 8. Did you know in June, 1970 the Rock collided with the Greek destroyer, Lonchi. We tell that story as the "new" rivets on her bow are quite noticeable. Thanks for putting together this video, Drachinifel! Also, we offer many videos about USS Little Rock on our own RUclips Channel.
Little rock on the "east coast"
*angry great lakes noises*
Did he say the same thing for The Sullivans?
North Coast
Let's compromise and call it the "East Coast of Lake Erie".
@@rdennis7201 It is on the East end of Lake Erie. Buffalo Harbor faces the West.
@@mjbull5156 Which would be the east coast of Lake Erie.
One of these, Montpelier, had an exciting career.
More battle stars than any USN ship except Enterprise. (or not!) (as shown in "Pacific War Diary).
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After a tour in the South Pacific the crew noticed the ship was a little sluggish when turning. When the ship went to dry dock they found out why.
There was a nice, neat 24" hole in the rudder.
Wonder how that got there🤷
@@redshirt5126 Probably an Italian frogman swam through Suez, crossed the Indian Ocean etc, and placed a limpid mine.
Hm. I recall uss san diego getting the second most battle stars...not sure where you read that.
@@GearGuardianGaming I stand corrected.
You might want to take a look at a list of highly decorated USN warships. Montpelier is quite a ways from the top.
"I'll be okay I'm in a Cleveland." - Everyone who plays WoWS.
I'm Nearly There To Get The CLEVELAND 😃
@@CRAIGKMSBISMARCKTIRPITZ533 i remember when the tier vi Cleveland was better than the tier vii Pensacola
@@stephenfritz7493. I'm On The Console (XBOX ONE). PENSACOLA Is TIER 5 & CLEVELAND IS TIER 7
My Uncle was a captain of one of the Cleveland class ships that were converted into guided missile cruisers “CLG 7 The USS Springfield”, I remember hearing him talk about it a couple of times, he always sounded extremely proud to be able to captain a ship that held so much history as well as in his words “a damn fine crew”. Miss you Uncle V.O…
My dad served on CL-57, USS Montpelier, which saw extensive service in the Pacific, from the Solomons to the occupation of Japan. An excellent book by a plank holder, James Fahey (Pacific War Diary - published by the Naval Institute Press) shows how one of the deck gang lived and fought (on a 40mm quad Bofors mount). Amazing ship, amazing crew.
Thanks, Drachinifel, for a quick look at a remarkable class. A deep dive into a single Cleveland might be in order, once you see where she earned all her battle stars, and the amazing destruction that could be wrought by those rapid-fire, radar-guided six inchers
Montpelier had a remarkable record.
Live pretty close to Buffalo NY where Little Rock where is located. The Fletcher class destroyer USS Sullivans and Gato class sub USS Croaker are also there. Did an over night visit back in scouts when I was 10 or so, she's an interesting visit. We kept a lot of battleships but not a lot of what's there at the museum, Little Rock was the only WW2 era cruiser to survive and though her entire rear half was reconfigured to carry the Talos missile system she does still carry some interesting ww2 artifacts like her admirals bridge (was configured as a flag ship) and still has her forward 6 inch gun. Was interesting to compare her to the Massachusetts which I visited two years later.
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used to drive by it everyday on my way to work they expanded. the Sullivan's is getting money together for emergency hull repairs it was delayed by covid and started flooding
I did three overnight stays on Little Rock while my boys were Cub Scouts. She's a fascinating ship, as is The Sullivans.
@@ramal5708 did mention she is in her guided missile configuration the entire rear superstructure was the holding room for the missiles, just did mention there are still WW2 parts left like the admirals bridge and facilities and the 6 inch forward gun. Believe she still carries the designation CG 4 rather than CL 92
If you end up visiting the Little Rock, I'd recommend also stopping at Ft. Niagara, which is nearby.
"Fun Time in Cleveland Today! Cleeeveeelaaaanndd!"
C'mon down to Cleveland Town everyone~! Under construction since eighteen-sixty-eight!
@@jimmyseaver3647 "See Our River that Caches on Fire~!"
I'd add come see the USS Cod but she is in dry dock in Erie PA atm :(
But there is always the Rock Hall of Fame
@@bskorupk We fixed that. About 35 years ago ;) Along with the rest of the Great Lakes. Despite all the corporations and crooked politicians who tried to stop us.. It was a huge victory for the environment that many have forgotten, and would be wise to remember today as proof that we can succeed despite the odds being all against us.
@@stevewindisch7400 The "HASTILY MADE CLEVELAND TOURISM VIDEO" Is a decade-old meme I wanted to see if people still got, I also keep meeting people who haven't heard that Indian Railways Abolished nearly all of both it's Narrow-Gauge and Steam Traction in the mid-late 90's! :)
Just finished watching a Yank on Forgotten Weapons explain the Last Ditch SMLE-4. Now it's off to a Brit explain a USN ship. Good morning!
Ah, yes. You are of course referring to the man known as "Gun Jesus", Ian from Forgotten Weapons.
Sounds like we have a lot in common the according to youtube.
@@ramal5708 I'm assuming American
Ian and Drach have a lot in common. They both have encyclopædic knowledge of their topics, enormous enthusiasm for them and great communication skills. This enables them to enthuse people who would not ordinarilly be very interested in their subjects.
The fact that they both have an excellent sense if humour is the icing on the cake.
@@notshapedforsportivetricks2912 Ian giggles like an evil 12 y/o girl when he finishes a 100 round mag dump from a .22 fully auto "police rifle". I can't imagine Drach's response to triggering a full broadside.
Thank you so much. My dad was a pilot that was assigned to the USS Cleveland as soon as she appeared on the west coast. She carried the OSC Seagull biplane instead of the Kingfisher most of the other cruisers and battleships did. My dad said it was a much more stable and reliable aircraft than the Kingfisher and he enjoyed flying it, although it was slower and more vulnerable to enemy gunfire. He used to laugh that all he had for armament was 2 smoke rockets, a .38 revolver, and a K20 camera.
The Kingfishers had the reputation of being the finest scout lanes ever to fly off a warship.
SOC Seagull is the proper name, not OSC.
The Cleveland and the Baltimore represent the best all gun cruisers America had in the water in WW2.
Great ship!
A 12 gun auto-loading 6”and an 8 gun 5” broadside, talk about smothering an opponent in shellfire 😂
@@CorePathway The 6 inch guns on Clevelands were not autoloading. However, I do believe they were a fixed round which speeded up loading. Not sure about that though. Definitely not autoloading.
@@patrickmccrann991 My hats off to Naval gunners who could manage 8-10 rounds/minute with 105 pound shells!
They were sure beautiful looking ships
Dept of the Navy - "How many guns can we put on her?"
Designer - "Yes"
Dept of the Navy - "Deal"
Finally, a guide about the real version of my favorite ship in World of Warships!!! :)
"Cleveland, knight of the sea!"
Little Rock and The Sullivans are docked at the naval park in my hometown of Buffalo, NY. I try to visit them every time I go back.
Ah yes, the tomboy class.
ZENSHI ARU NOMI!
Ah I see you are man of culture as well
THE DADDY CLASS
I enjoyed the video. The Little Rock is at Buffalo New York. I toured that ship when I was in graduate school. FYI, Buffalo is not on the East Coast
She is an interesting visit we kept a lot of battleships, but she was the only cruiser add in the Sullivans not a lot of destroyers kept as well. Buffalo Naval park is a bit unique compared to the battleship museums. Kind of glad I live near it.
Yes, it has been a while, but they have a destroyer, and also a Gato class submarine
North Coast
My dad has a picture of the USS Helena running behind the USS Cleveland when it took a kamikaze in the #3 turret. She didn't fair so well during the war.
I was stationed on the USS Oklahoma City (CLG 5) in the Western Pacific the early 1970s. They were beautiful ships, and pretty good sea keepers, though they did have a long roll. Great memories! Thanks for the video.
No, I got to the ship about six months after the war “ended” (for us). I’ve seen a couple of reasonably good accounts of that operation on the internet, though.
Drach, FYI. Buffalo NY is not on the US east coast. The state of NY has a bit of an internal rivalry between the area around New York City, and the rest (Upstate NY). So calling Buffalo "east coast" is an unintended insult to those living there. Think of the row it would cause if you called a Londoner a Scottsman. P.S. -Still love your videos though!
Hush, you belong to us. Sincerely, New York City.
Oof, harsh comparison; y’all are in the same damn state, much less country. Now go shovel snow or swat mosquitoes. It’s one or the other in Buffalo.
Buffalo is absolutely still the east coast lol.
@@thebean8255autoloader. Buffalo is a long way from the "east coast". Closer to Cleveland and Chicago than NYC.
My uncle was a gunners mate on a Sumner-class destroyer in 1944. He was on an older destroyer that was sunk in 42. He never talked about it. He said the Cleveland’s were good ships but they really like it when an Atlanta class cruiser showed up
I miss playing the Tier VI version of this in wows back in 2015/2016
She was something
@@robert48044 Earlier than that she was a monster when basic firing training and advance firing training applied up to 152mm...about the only good thing about the USN Cruiser split was that you got the Brooklyn class in game, which then informs on the IJN Mogami line of development
Ijn: these six cruisers should be okay to take on the Americans
Usn: shipyard goes brrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...splash
Hahahahahaha!
Yes…👹
Oh hell yes!!!!
I remember a wargaming podcast where the game designer was describing the challenges of balancing a Pacific War, pointing out that by the mid-late war, the US and Japan had both lost a huge chunk of their pre-war navies... but the US had managed to build essentially an entire new navy in the meantime, whereas Japan had... not
@@chanman819 they should then build paper ships. Its what they did with German, Russian and any navy that is not the US, or Britain
By preserved on the East Coast, Drach means Buffalo, NY on Lake Erie, above Niagara Falls and across the water from Ontario. USS Little Rock and USS Sullivans are docked together with a WW2/Cold War USN fleet submarine on the downtown waterfront.
My grandfather served on the Santa Fe (CL-60)
Been to the Little Rock a couple of times. It is ww2 in the front and cold war in the rear. Really big compared to the fletcher that is right next to it.
I had the honor of serving aboard the USS Springfield (CL-66/CLG-7/CG-7) in 71' and 72', Flag Hoist/Radio Call Sign: November - Whiskey - Delta - Mike "Fair Winds and Following Seas" Brothers.
It had hydro and radar, and it had defensive AA too!
My first duty station after completing boot camp was a precommisding detail in NOB Norfork, for the USS Cleveland
LPD 7. She was commissioned in April 1967. I am a Plank Owner and made my first Westpac cruise aboard her.
Good Saturday morning. Drach's offering talks about what is probably MY favorite WWII USN cruiser. He's correct about none being lost during the war, though as often as the Clevelands managed to find fights and get it stuck in this fact is very surprising. For a prewar design they were surprisingly rugged, and the lessons learned about damage control enabled Houston and others to live, be repaired and take the fight back to the enemy.
Ah yes, I remember growing up in Buffalo, and visiting the Buffalo Naval museum and touring the Little Rock. Its a great museum to visit if you ever make it state-side. They have the three ships, a few airplanes and other assorted ground vehicles to check out
uss Little Rock is an amazing ship to visit. Slept aboard her twice as a kid intend to go back as an adult. shes moored up with DD uss Sullivan's and a sub uss Croager in Buffalo NY.
Dad's ship USS Birmingham CL-62. Served at invasion of Sicily, transferred to South Pacific. Solomons 2 bombs and a torpedo, Gilberts, Marshalls, Marianas, Phillipine Sea, carrier Princeton blew up along side her off Samar killing and wounding nearly 650 men during firefighting operations, actions off Formosa, Iwo, and Okinawa where she took a kamikaze. One tough fightin' ship.
My dad served on her also one of the wounded at Okinawa
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Yes, Okinawa was her last campaign during the war. Dad said they were on their way in August to participate in the invasion of the home islands when the Captain announced to everyone over the 1MC that the war was over. They were almost in disbelief this word came so suddenly and unexpectedly. Guys were becoming fatalistic because of the Kamikazes. Sailors were thinking it was just a matter of time before they would be killed if the invasion went forward. When they heard this word, they not only cheered, but grabbed each other, hugging, laughing and crying all at the same time. The ship went into a 360° turn and tried to sound it's collision siren, but it malfunctioned as an anticlimax.
Glad your father made it thru. 🙏 🙌 👏 ❤️ 👍
Thank you, Drachinifel.
Yay, you finally made it! and a week before my birthday! Thank you so very much for doing my suggestion. ^_^
Wish you had mentioned one of her most famous battles, the battle of Empress Augusta Bay.
Man I adore this channel, keep up the good work fam
Ahh USS Cleveland... My favorite ship in WoWS... Until they moved her up to Tier 8. She was a Beast at T6, and I Loved brawling in her against destroyers and cruisers, harassing enemy BBs to draw fire away from mine, assisting in AA defense with its respectable AA battery... Cleveland was *Fun.* And I miss it. At Tier 8, she's just another light cruiser...
My uncle served on the USS Vincennes (CL-64), was part of the original crew that took her from the Boston area to sea trials and to the Pacific. He went overboard during one of her first surface engagements and was picked up after several Hrs. by the USS Mugford (DD-389). He remained on the Mugford until he was killed by a Kamikaze attack on 5 Dec 44 in the Surigao Strait of the Philippines.
A absolutely beautiful ship
Yes, finally, a video on the Turret-Farm class light cruisers.
my favorite usn ship in wows
Such a beautifull class
and those carrier conversions look kinda nice
Nothing is stronger than Family!
"Prince of Persia"?
Handsome looking ships :-)
Another Request for an episode on the Savannah CL42, Brooklyn class, reworked into St. Louis variant, after some modification by a Fritz-X.
Outstanding, as usual. 👍
What an interesting light cruiser design!
Nicely done as always.
Outstanding work as usual sir.
Great start to a Saturday.
Among the more exotic interior designs. Love the period ships.
My favorite cruiser class so far
Amazing paint jobs
So sleek. So fluid.
This class didn’t let “perfect” become the enemy of “very good.” All 52 came home, along with eight of the nine Independence-class CVLs that were built on the same hull.
Another great video drach , am glad you & the doctor made it back from Jersey safely + hope all is well on the home front . Keep up the good work , take care & best wishes.
BTW, Drach, I wouldn't think of Buffalo in New York State on LAKE ERIE (where USS Little Rock is today) as being on the "east coast".
The LEGENDARY Cleveland class!
Ah yes finally, my favorite ship class of all time! #ForeandAftSuperFiringTripleTurretPairGang
#HexagonalHeavyAAABatteryGang
I nicknamed her "cleaver" back when WOWS was young and before she was nerfed to hell and back. Her firepower was just brutal
USS intrepid would be a cool video, probably took the most damage of the Essex class carriers
Love it!! Got her sister in miniature. They're sweet! Keep it up dude!! J
I used to love this ship as a T6 ship in WoWS. They modeled the secondary battery correctly, and running a secondary build was fun for dumpstering DD's. While not an OP build, it was fun. This was in the 0.4.0- 0.5.0 patch era for WoWS. Plus running that build really buffed your AA, on ship that was known for down right lethal AA. Making CV player's cry was a Secondary bonus :P
1:03 - I love the cross section map. Some fun info there if you take a look. I had no idea that there was an individual compartment set aside just for potatoes! 😉
The potato was the weapon of choice for at least one crewman topside when the USS Buckley rammed a U-Boat in the Atlantic. Another weapon was a heavy ceramic Navy coffee mug.
The USS Little Rock is in an East Coast state, but is not on the East Coast. It is in Buffalo Harbor off of Lake Erie in New York State, and the open water is to the west.
Two of the Clevelands were to be named after the City of Buffalo, but one became an Independence class light carrier and the other was canceled.
Protect your important bits!🤗
I'd love to see a video on the Independence class light carriers that some of the Cleveland's were converted into.
The sheer size of US ship's crews gets me. According to Wikipedia: Clevelands 1250, Fiji class (for comparison) 920.
USN manning increased greatly as extra AA and radar systems went on the ships as the war progressed. These required additional crews to operate the weapons as well as technicians to maintain and repair them. Space got pretty tight on the prewar classes as the original number of racks available didn't predict this amount of growth.
@@ramal5708 uhhh, ok, cool?
Someone had to Man all those aa guns
Ah yes, classic WW2 US ship design; MOAR DAKKA!
Learned to love these things thanks to World of Warships bizarre decision to have it at tier 6 for the LONGEST time.
Love your vids..... Keep up the great work
My dad was on the USS Miami CL 89 in war 2. He said Miami had her bow wrenched 3 inches to the side in the Big Typhoon,
Come on down to Cleveland town everyone!
There are surely dozens of warships that are recommended for future videos, but one little known ship that might be considered is HMCS Saguenay (WWII version). She saw combat, was seriously damaged twice and had a heroic ships company (my grandfather being one of them). The ship was reincarnated many years later with an upgraded design, which was eventually sunk as a coral reef. If you have the time, please do a video of it. Thanks.
Regarding the USS Little Rock, I'm not sure that Lake Erie qualifies as the "east coast". The ship, in it's guided missile cruiser form, is now a museum ship in Buffalo, New York, and many years ago my son and I had the honor of sleeping aboard one night along with our scout troop.
I was going to comment something similar. was out there a couple times myself as a Sea Cadet. feels like another lifetime ago.
I think, geographically speaking, new york is considered east coast. Thats probably what he was referring to. Georgia is technically "east coast" tho only savannah is really on the cost.
Very interesting thank you for making (:
Best shipfu
Another wonderful 7 minutes
I am no expert on US naval history by any means, however, during my assignment to an old FFG class boat in '79 -' 80, i observed some pretty big missile cruisers (CG's, CGN's) down the piers. I remember the Chicago, and some other old boats, i think at least one was a Talos boat (one of these guys shot down a NV mig that got too close), during my assignment to FFG-2 Ramsey, at 32nd Street Naval Station, SD, CA.
But these were built on old cruisers, so i think that whole history is pretty entertaining. I'm sure you already covered a couple of these boats in prior episodes.
Chicago CG-11 and Albany CG-10 were converted Baltimore class Heavy Cruisers. Boston CAG-1 was the first ship converted to a Guided Missile Cruiser. She still had her 8 inch turrets forward and twin 5 inch mounts with Talos launcher aft. Chicago and Albany had no guns, 3 missile launchers.
It seems like a lot of people think the Navy was surprised when carriers assumed prominence over battleships, yet increasing AA was a design goal for years before the Pearl Harbor attack.
I think it's a shame that none of the Cleveland class ships still exist in their original configuration.
Some days I wonder if drach has ever looked up any of the anime's that these references came from. Clevebro best bro
USS Litte Rock is with the USS Sullivan's in Buffalo, NY
Cleveland's Rocks!
Here’s a fun one….Captians gig! The little boats to ferry around officers etc…
Any Chance on doing a video on the USS Little Rock Specifically? My Grandfather served on board in the 60's and it would be awesome to hear more about her history.
The best American light cruiser class of WW II.
Would you want to do an episode on explosive flash? I am not clear on flash being the effect of the gas from the detention or from the radiational energy, or a combination of both. The RN was big into crew protection, hoods and masks. The USN, at east in WWII seemed less worried, especially in the Pacific.
First time commenting, great videos, also loved napalms videos with your contributions, wish he did more. Would love a video on the Dutch cruiser Tromp or the Marblehead.
Ah yes, the Cleveland...
She was providing shore support for the troop landings during the liberation of my home island (Panay) during WWII
plz now do the baltimore class