well, by the way, in reality, this could help the AXIS a lot, since because of Turkey, the battle for Stalingrad would have been, if not lost, at least the thousandth army of Friedrich Pauls aryatli would have been captured, although Sasma Turkey would have advanced deeply and the accession of Spain would have made it very difficult to carry out the Normandy landings and Spanish reserves it would be quite possible, if not to throw into the sea, then to keep the Allied forces (but in the end I don't think that this would play such a huge role that the AXIS countries won, but it could drag out the war for a couple of years, that's for sure)
@@derkelch2228 This scenario would also convince italy not to change sides so even if USA nuked Germany there would be other axis members standing with now focusing on military
same thing would happen, turkey doesnt have a border with axis so they would have to attack them by landing, but they cant win against italian and german fleet, United Kingdom would still fall because turks did not play much role in it, also they dont have much troops and most of the troops are bad so 30 soldiers in soviet - axis border would change nothing.
@@CigliPuff WDYM they can get their troops on Soviet borders I never played the game but sometimes in time lapses ally countries land their troops on their ally borders
@@Mapper8703 what? Thats what i said? Turkey would probably still try defending their motherland but if they had some troops inside soviet union borders it would change nothing.
the 2 countries which would have changed the war the most for the axis are specifically spain and turkey. if gibraltar was lost to spain, the uk's line from the altantic and north sea would be cut, effectively stopping them from supplying the meditteranean for a bit, losing africa to the axis. and if turkey joined the war the battle for the caucasus would almost surely be won, making the future of the soviet union unsure, and in the worst case scenario could have lead to their collapse.
Why is it that everytime Spain joins the axis, the AI is hard coded to invade through Bilbao instead of Normandy? They always invade through there in all my Axis Spain games
You can watch those scenarios here: ruclips.net/video/Y-pvWqrGbjY/видео.html Here: ruclips.net/video/lejE1lS-JZs/видео.html And here: ruclips.net/video/4fu54F3N3z0/видео.html
if japan switched territory and ideologies with uk then japan will act like UK without proper focus tree and UK will act like japan without proper focus tree the UK will invade china, southeast asia and USA (oh wow!! wouldn't it be better if the UK focus tree is focused in asia?? oh wait there is something called JAPAN) japan will fight against the axis and barely survives on an island. The us would later use japan as the launching ground for d-day. (oh wow!!! wouldnt it be better if japan have a focus tree focused on europe??? oh wait there is something called UK)
To be realistic; Turkey would have been completely occupied in both cases. In one case, by the Germans and in the other by the Soviets. There was no proper land power or air power. There were still cavalry units at that time. He made the best decision for himself and just watched. In fact, it is said that when the Germans entered the Soviet territory, the leader of the state, Ismet Inonu, was woken up at night and informed and danced with joy.
i have only waking the tiger and literally every game aliess lose in africa and are fighting in congo for like 3 years until usa is getting strong and are starting winning
değişirdi bakü petrolleri olmasaydı Sovyetler uçak vrya tank kaldıramazdı ve kaybederlerdi Türkiyeye ondan dolayı 12 adalar musul kuzey suriye kafkasya verilmek istendi Türkiyenin konumu Axis için çok önemliydi
@@sabiraythekemalist hangi orduyla alacaktı orayı ? Ve zaten Rusya' nın başka yerlerinden de petrol çıkıyor ayrıca ABD de deli gibi gönderiyor. Bir de Irak'taki İngiliz faktörü var ki soluğu Adana da alırlardı 2 haftada
Turkey had a genius commanders at these time. In Turkish Independence war they beat up bigger armies. And in these years Turkey had Modernised army. Also Spain could prevent the D-day on the west
They could have. On paper they don't add much to the Axis, but their strategic locations are very useful. Spain would immediately take Gibraltar and cut-off the Allied fleet from the Mediterranean, this would save Italy's ass on the short term and give a significant advantage to the Axis on the North African front. The Suez canal would become the only viable way for the Allies in and out of the Mediterranean, with a stronger Axis on the West and a Turkey in the East, it would be possible that the Axis in this timeline would be able to shut the Mediterranean sea completely out of the Allied fleet. Turkey would also be able to strike the USSR through the south during Barbarossa and sieze the Caucasus oil fields, this was exactly the German goal with Fall Blau and the only hope of Axis survival in the long run. With Turkey on the Axis it would be possible to see an Axis victory on the eastern front, or at least a stalemate. It would then come down to the Western front. The American invasion of Italy would never happen, and Italy would be in a much stronger position. Invading Spain would be suicidal, the Spanish terrain is very harsh and the population would be very hostile, so Normandy would still be their best bet. So the question would be, could the Anglophone allies be able to pull off a successful D-day against a Germany which would have their Mediterranean front safe and covered a considerably easier Eastern Front, 100Milion more population and access to A LOT more fuel supplies. I can see a Galipoli 2.0 and the Western allies losing enough heart to tap out or resort to nukes. But nukes would not break Germany. They only broke Japan because Japan was literally already completely broken. If the Allies nuked Germany, it would only incentivize the Germans to develop their own nukes, which they could if given enough time and motivation. If the Axis were able to develop and use their nukes effectively it would be over. Both sides would be forced to agree to peace or it would lead to mutual destruction.
@@yusufkonevi6803 Switzerland hasn’t been in war since Napoleonic Wars and they still are one of the richest nations in the world expansion is mostly unnecessary unless you want to rule the world
![[HoI4] Ultra Tech Turkey Joins Axis [WW2 Timelapse]](/img/1.gif)
that beat drop when the soviet union fell is so good
Came to comment this. It was chef's kiss level timing.
Whats the song of that?
Losing Gibralta practically guarantees Allies' lost in Africa
Vietnamese.
@@TestTest-dd4qb Japanese
@@АртурАртур-у9ю5щ Russian
@@jayden2966 Canadian
@@PugnaciousProductions Romanian
Finally Italy does something properly 😂😂😂
HOI4 give a lot of power to the Axis.
@@IceAlvaro13 nah its just the ai is dumb usually just build a level 5 for in mattouth and the problem is fixed
@@IceAlvaro13 and you have to coordinate well in north Africa
Italy in History: UK can you stop destroy my Navi da Guerra please?
Italy in HOI4: Try and stop me barbaro anglo
I agree
Ah yes Turkish Mexico secret plan of Suleiman the magnificent by attacking HRE
4:43 Perfectly timed to the music
Do Ireland, spain and turkey join the axis but Sweden and Portugal joins the Allies.
Good suggestion! Adding it to the to-do list! :)
ireland would be more likely to join the allies then sweden would be
Says a lot about how balanced the game is when the addition of one or two minor countries sway entire games.
turkey and spain are not minor
@Feuerpflanze according to HOI4 Wiki there are only 7 major powers in 1936, neither Turkey, or Spain are included.
@@fdlman93092 just look on turkeys focus tree
I wouldn't consider them minors just not major players in the war
Turkey and Spain just happen to be the most important and strategic minors in Europe.
well, by the way, in reality, this could help the AXIS a lot, since because of Turkey, the battle for Stalingrad would have been, if not lost, at least the thousandth army of Friedrich Pauls aryatli would have been captured, although Sasma Turkey would have advanced deeply and the accession of Spain would have made it very difficult to carry out the Normandy landings and Spanish reserves it would be quite possible, if not to throw into the sea, then to keep the Allied forces (but in the end I don't think that this would play such a huge role that the AXIS countries won, but it could drag out the war for a couple of years, that's for sure)
Yeah you're right. If Stalingrad is lost, the war is lost too. There's a reason why it's the biggest and the most important battle in history.
I agree.
You know that the Americans wanted to nuke Germany if the war keept on right ?
@@derkelch2228 If USSR surrendered Germany would focus on research more meaning they could develop nukes too
@@derkelch2228 This scenario would also convince italy not to change sides so even if USA nuked Germany there would be other axis members standing with now focusing on military
Iceland the Brave 🇮🇸
What if Spain join Axis and Turkey join Comintern?
same thing would happen, turkey doesnt have a border with axis so they would have to attack them by landing, but they cant win against italian and german fleet, United Kingdom would still fall because turks did not play much role in it, also they dont have much troops and most of the troops are bad so 30 soldiers in soviet - axis border would change nothing.
@@CigliPuff You smart
@@CigliPuff WDYM they can get their troops on Soviet borders I never played the game but sometimes in time lapses ally countries land their troops on their ally borders
@@Mapper8703 what? Thats what i said? Turkey would probably still try defending their motherland but if they had some troops inside soviet union borders it would change nothing.
@@CigliPuff what I mean is turkey can attack Axis through the Soviet borders
turkey making the tactical decision to cap the raj
the 2 countries which would have changed the war the most for the axis are specifically spain and turkey. if gibraltar was lost to spain, the uk's line from the altantic and north sea would be cut, effectively stopping them from supplying the meditteranean for a bit, losing africa to the axis. and if turkey joined the war the battle for the caucasus would almost surely be won, making the future of the soviet union unsure, and in the worst case scenario could have lead to their collapse.
4:45 - Perfect Timing
Why is it that everytime Spain joins the axis, the AI is hard coded to invade through Bilbao instead of Normandy? They always invade through there in all my Axis Spain games
Cuz for some reason spain is thought to be weak bcz of the civil war few years before, even if then spain is stronger than what they thought
Good job on 4 46
The Irony was at one point in time the Ottomans and the Spanish empire were the two strongest empires in Europe.
The inaccuracy problem comes from the fact that sometimes Germany wins things it shouldn’t historically, even without any modifiers enabled
Meanwhile Switzerland: 🍷🗿
Turkish Mexico, alternatively known as Texaco.
I didn’t notice India was capitulated by Turkey until he pressed the factions map button
Trukey stronk
yes frend stronk Trukey forver 🦾🇹🇷🤜🇬🇷 we will svae the wrold from Greks
🇹🇷🇹🇷🤘🇹🇷🐺🇹🇷🤘
new idea : what if Greece have all of Macedonian Empire province in World War 2😁
wow
You can watch those scenarios here: ruclips.net/video/Y-pvWqrGbjY/видео.html
Here: ruclips.net/video/lejE1lS-JZs/видео.html
And here: ruclips.net/video/4fu54F3N3z0/видео.html
Thank you
Finally Happy UK and US finally stopped 😄😄😄😄. But Iceland might hve got super Soldiers 🤣🤣🤣
what if japan and uk both switched their territory AND ideologies? (Also their faction name)
make manchukou a british puppet and so on
list of stuff this senario is gonna change:
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if japan switched territory and ideologies with uk then japan will act like UK without proper focus tree and UK will act like japan without proper focus tree
the UK will invade china, southeast asia and USA (oh wow!! wouldn't it be better if the UK focus tree is focused in asia?? oh wait there is something called JAPAN)
japan will fight against the axis and barely survives on an island. The us would later use japan as the launching ground for d-day. (oh wow!!! wouldnt it be better if japan have a focus tree focused on europe??? oh wait there is something called UK)
the only reason the creator would do this senario is if he is desperate for video ideas and views
@@bestname6669 chill out man. wouldnt you be interested in such a scenario? oh well... maybe he doesnt do it anyway
To be realistic; Turkey would have been completely occupied in both cases. In one case, by the Germans and in the other by the Soviets. There was no proper land power or air power. There were still cavalry units at that time. He made the best decision for himself and just watched. In fact, it is said that when the Germans entered the Soviet territory, the leader of the state, Ismet Inonu, was woken up at night and informed and danced with joy.
realistically the axis still lose
but in hoi4 the axis dominates the allies
Portugal just chilling as usual
also lesson learned: the axis ai does not know how to navally invade in hoi4
Very nice!
with that drumintro i was expecting to get rickrolled xD
Turkish Mexico... That's a good dream
will happen someday
@@Maltbyr what does it need to be
"New Adana" would be a nice name for Ex-Mexico.
@@ahmetgul8302 iyi tespit
Troops in Cyprus: where am i?
i have only waking the tiger and literally every game aliess lose in africa and are fighting in congo for like 3 years until usa is getting strong and are starting winning
I like the music.
how do you do these id love to just watch ai play it out
Damn what a timeline
i expected Turkey to Attack Greece first,disappointed
Spain carried
In Spain there was no food to keep and army alive ..... no food..... I also think Francos general coudnt have traveled to the front line
Would be cool if the game had food
make a Ohio Empire
I would love to do scenarios with independent USA states, but sadly I haven't found any mods that work with 1.10.8 version of the game
spain is overkill
Do Ireland and Brazil join the Axis
why did british raj joined the axis 🤨
Why is Germany so powerful? They look like Mordor with a never-ending suplly of Orcs...
Let's have it right, USA & Russia ate the two most powerful.
why turkey has not big
and why it says empire
Because the idology was Empire inside the game
TNO reference!!!
Bir şey değişmezdi
değişirdi bakü petrolleri olmasaydı Sovyetler uçak vrya tank kaldıramazdı ve kaybederlerdi Türkiyeye ondan dolayı 12 adalar musul kuzey suriye kafkasya verilmek istendi Türkiyenin konumu Axis için çok önemliydi
@@sabiraythekemalist hangi orduyla alacaktı orayı ? Ve zaten Rusya' nın başka yerlerinden de petrol çıkıyor ayrıca ABD de deli gibi gönderiyor. Bir de Irak'taki İngiliz faktörü var ki soluğu Adana da alırlardı 2 haftada
Spoiler: Axis win anyway
Did Italy naval invade india??
No bro Turkey did
@@umutgezginug oh okay
I don't think they will affect the result that much IRL.
Regia marina would have probably control the Mediterranean
You never know…
Turkey had a genius commanders at these time. In Turkish Independence war they beat up bigger armies. And in these years Turkey had Modernised army. Also Spain could prevent the D-day on the west
They could have.
On paper they don't add much to the Axis, but their strategic locations are very useful.
Spain would immediately take Gibraltar and cut-off the Allied fleet from the Mediterranean, this would save Italy's ass on the short term and give a significant advantage to the Axis on the North African front.
The Suez canal would become the only viable way for the Allies in and out of the Mediterranean, with a stronger Axis on the West and a Turkey in the East, it would be possible that the Axis in this timeline would be able to shut the Mediterranean sea completely out of the Allied fleet.
Turkey would also be able to strike the USSR through the south during Barbarossa and sieze the Caucasus oil fields, this was exactly the German goal with Fall Blau and the only hope of Axis survival in the long run.
With Turkey on the Axis it would be possible to see an Axis victory on the eastern front, or at least a stalemate.
It would then come down to the Western front.
The American invasion of Italy would never happen, and Italy would be in a much stronger position.
Invading Spain would be suicidal, the Spanish terrain is very harsh and the population would be very hostile, so Normandy would still be their best bet.
So the question would be, could the Anglophone allies be able to pull off a successful D-day against a Germany which would have their Mediterranean front safe and covered a considerably easier Eastern Front, 100Milion more population and access to A LOT more fuel supplies.
I can see a Galipoli 2.0 and the Western allies losing enough heart to tap out or resort to nukes.
But nukes would not break Germany. They only broke Japan because Japan was literally already completely broken.
If the Allies nuked Germany, it would only incentivize the Germans to develop their own nukes, which they could if given enough time and motivation.
If the Axis were able to develop and use their nukes effectively it would be over. Both sides would be forced to agree to peace or it would lead to mutual destruction.
@@umutgezginug defensive war
Third
Also great vid
Thank you! :)
Based
Me an Italian😃
Well, there are also positive consequences, 6 children of Goebbels did not die.
P.s- This is a 100 comment.
That's why I say Turkey had to enter ww2
That would have sucked for Turkey war is never good for a nation
@@onurvx5996 OK. But tell me, how do countries expand? With diplomacy and peace?!
@@yusufkonevi6803 Switzerland hasn’t been in war since Napoleonic Wars and they still are one of the richest nations in the world expansion is mostly unnecessary unless you want to rule the world
Kanka Türksün dimi
@@onurvx5996 Also, everything is not money, also you need borders to be important...
The axis had no glory they were evil fascists
Based. I love Fascism