The Multi-Variable Chain Rule: Derivatives of Compositions

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  • @lolololol632
    @lolololol632 3 года назад +109

    You literally saved me hours of work because your explanation is so intuitive and straightforward, and in such a small amount of time. I wish you the best in future.

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 года назад +13

      So glad it helped!

  • @balakrishnakumar1588
    @balakrishnakumar1588 5 лет назад +75

    Why he isn't famous yet ?
    Great explanation sir.

    • @subhadeeppal917
      @subhadeeppal917 4 года назад

      Really I just love your videos. 🤩

    • @NuclearPhysix
      @NuclearPhysix 3 года назад +6

      He is famous. You may need to remember that not many people like or do mathematics, at least on RUclips, you will not expect his followers to be the same number as some funny cat videos posts viewed by anybody else. He hi up there with MIT Herb Gross in my opinion

    • @AbhishekKumar-jg7gq
      @AbhishekKumar-jg7gq 3 года назад +1

      Because he has a difficult accent which non native speaker can't understand

    • @aashsyed1277
      @aashsyed1277 3 года назад +2

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    • @tevinabeysekera6038
      @tevinabeysekera6038 Год назад +2

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  • @Lostwolf16
    @Lostwolf16 4 года назад +24

    Content and quality of video is masterclass, hope to see a rise in quantity of other concepts as well. Thank you

  • @hu900
    @hu900 2 года назад +3

    I'm so happy that I found this, he explains it realy well. At 3.20 "If you only change w" should be "If you only change x". No problem though, it is clear anyway. Thank you so much for this video!

  • @vaisuliafu3342
    @vaisuliafu3342 4 года назад +14

    these videos are so good... i hope you are dreaming big enough with your channel. This is the future of math education

  • @daumel98
    @daumel98 4 месяца назад

    I love you. Visualizing a dependency graph makes this so easy! I finally understand backpropagation in neural networks

  • @mimstudent8662
    @mimstudent8662 3 года назад +1

    I am from Bangladesh.U teaching method is very good.I can get easily understand.I saw many videos but u videos really well done.Thank u so much.Sir

  • @muhammedalam1203
    @muhammedalam1203 3 месяца назад

    one of the best explanations out here. Thanks Sir.

  • @farhansadik5423
    @farhansadik5423 4 месяца назад +1

    absolutely brilliant explanation. massive respect to you sir!

  • @EfremTesfaye-cz7tl
    @EfremTesfaye-cz7tl 7 месяцев назад

    I get this video after a period of time but i regret about the time before. really i appreciate you continue don,t stop here .

  • @belemaayonoadu9219
    @belemaayonoadu9219 3 года назад +1

    Brilliant! I can't believe how you made this concept extremely easy!

  • @joyghosh3858
    @joyghosh3858 3 года назад +4

    This is how math should be taught.. Just superb.

  • @honkhonk8009
    @honkhonk8009 5 месяцев назад

    Love the video bro.
    Im a CS major and was struggling to figure out how chain rule worked for backrpopagation.
    The chain rule seemed easy enough on textbooks but i never understood what the dependency chart thing was, or how it would be extended to other examples
    This just explained it perfectly

  • @xiu8548
    @xiu8548 4 года назад +3

    you r not only more handsome than my professor, but also give GREAT explaination! ! My professor gave lectures in 2 hours, you explain it in few mins.

  • @amansingh-ww2qc
    @amansingh-ww2qc 3 года назад +1

    Best maths teacher ever

  • @sharminahmed4324
    @sharminahmed4324 8 дней назад

    best explanation that i came across

  • @immortalkarin
    @immortalkarin 2 года назад +1

    Great videos man, you really have a very charismatic way of explaining math.

  • @isakwatz11
    @isakwatz11 3 года назад +1

    Impressively simple yet effective expanation!

  • @yosafendrafendra7960
    @yosafendrafendra7960 3 года назад +5

    Hello Dr Trefor please make a playlist about Partial Derivatives Equation, i think a lot of people will need it. thanks a lot

  • @gokulakrishnansaravanan7475
    @gokulakrishnansaravanan7475 3 года назад +1

    u are really doing great sir. giving the real insight to mathematics .

  • @Chris-ng9zi
    @Chris-ng9zi 3 года назад +1

    You are an excellent teacher!!! Keep up the good work.

  • @sahilafroj277
    @sahilafroj277 3 года назад +1

    Beautifully explained sir.
    Love you.❤️

  • @akshitk6818
    @akshitk6818 3 года назад +2

    Really Awesome series of Calculus 3 and 4! Covers all the aspects that are usually taught in year 2! Your explanations are way better than my professor! Your videos have truly helping me in understanding better!

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 года назад +2

      Glad you like them!

  • @aravindhvijayanandan3010
    @aravindhvijayanandan3010 6 месяцев назад

    Great exposition of a difficult concept, Dr. Bazett
    Subs from India

  • @jankowalski8102
    @jankowalski8102 2 года назад +1

    Great content! Greetings from Poland!

  • @PD-vt9fe
    @PD-vt9fe 3 года назад +2

    Great video as always. It helps me a lot to rebuild my math background. Keep it up!

  • @sandunmunasinghe9469
    @sandunmunasinghe9469 3 года назад +1

    you are the best and i really like your videos

  • @garrettgeffre1792
    @garrettgeffre1792 Месяц назад

    If you’re only here to see how it works look at 10:12. Great video man thank you.

  • @billycheung5114
    @billycheung5114 3 месяца назад

    Your video help me a lots !❤

  • @jitendermeena9480
    @jitendermeena9480 3 года назад +1

    I loved the tree diagram. Great job sir 👍🏻

  • @koprofessional7280
    @koprofessional7280 Месяц назад

    Thanks sir really your explaination is very good

  • @doxo9597
    @doxo9597 3 года назад +4

    I still don’t understand why it’s the sum of the two?

  • @crimfan
    @crimfan 4 года назад

    A very nice explanation of the total derivative.

  • @ossahmadrezaazimikohnabi5108
    @ossahmadrezaazimikohnabi5108 4 месяца назад

    This wss the highlight of my day. 🎉❤😭😍

  • @discoveryofphysics9303
    @discoveryofphysics9303 3 года назад +1

    Thank you Sir. It helped a lot.

  • @hakaneskici2771
    @hakaneskici2771 2 года назад

    Thank you for the explanation sir

  • @continnum_radhe-radhe
    @continnum_radhe-radhe 2 года назад +2

    Thank you sir 🔥🔥🔥

  • @ahmedmohamedkhogle6100
    @ahmedmohamedkhogle6100 5 лет назад +1

    Nice keep going we need such those videos 🙂

  • @realchatlabs
    @realchatlabs Год назад +1

    Do I understand it right that the multi-variable chain rule the same as the single-variable chain rule (f . g)'(t) = f'(g(t))g'(t) with the difference only that you have a dot product between f'(g(x)) and g'(x) instead of a regular multiplication? (assuming that g(t) = [x(t), y(t), ...] to fit your examples).

  • @yoavmor9002
    @yoavmor9002 Год назад

    Index notation and Einstein convention make this very easy to remember. But I don't think most folks are ready to display all variables as x⁰, x¹, x², x³, etc...

  • @bilalabbad7954
    @bilalabbad7954 2 года назад +2

    Thanks

  • @enzoys
    @enzoys 2 года назад +1

    I mean, it looks like you can just substitute the t expressions in both x and y and have a normal chain rule

  • @vct98890
    @vct98890 3 года назад +1

    OMGG THANK YOU SO MUCH SIRR

  • @salvatoregiordano9050
    @salvatoregiordano9050 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video and explanation sir! I really appreciate this. Do you have any idea where I can find a video that proves the formula for the chain rule you described? Thank you so much!

  • @frommarkham424
    @frommarkham424 6 месяцев назад +1

    it's useful in machine learning

  • @billhopkins8330
    @billhopkins8330 4 года назад

    Great explanation!!

  • @HasanRaza-pe2sy
    @HasanRaza-pe2sy Год назад

    Great content. In india many of us study this in grade 11 and 12. As how i know as i am in 12 currently

    • @arpityadav.832
      @arpityadav.832 Год назад +1

      burh it is of multivariable its teaches in college 1st . from which board r u?

  • @felixgomez5085
    @felixgomez5085 3 года назад +1

    I have to tell you sir. You design usefull videos, with nice visuals. But you need to upgrade your sound device... It's mandatory at this level !!!!!!

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 года назад +2

      i actually since have!

  • @ugursoydan8187
    @ugursoydan8187 2 года назад

    why we added the change due to y to change due to x? is there a proof of that?

  • @Avinash_Avee
    @Avinash_Avee 2 года назад +1

    Tnqsm 🙏

  • @ronycb7168
    @ronycb7168 Год назад

    Thanks ... Also the chain rule looks a lot like the total differential divided upon dt

  • @joaomattos9271
    @joaomattos9271 Год назад

    Amazing!!

  • @abdullahmohamed2083
    @abdullahmohamed2083 3 года назад

    Thank you thank you sooo informative

  • @sharifullahdanish4480
    @sharifullahdanish4480 3 года назад

    As you said we can directly solve it via putting the values of the x & y, so if you would do it, we will appreciate it.
    thanks..

  • @giuseppecammarata7528
    @giuseppecammarata7528 Год назад

    Thank you! Would it have been an error if I had written the symbol of the partial derivative in lieu of dx/dt and dy/dt (second row in final conclusion)?

  • @suvanshmahajan5902
    @suvanshmahajan5902 3 года назад +1

    Can anyone tell me if this is calculus of two independent variable(x,y) and here both these variables are dependent on t, so basically both are not independent of each other.How???

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 года назад +1

      Yes in this situation we still call x and y independent even if they are both functions of the same variable.

  • @edwarddi3833
    @edwarddi3833 4 года назад +1

    nice video, very informative! Thanks!
    however, what about the second derivative of f(x(t), y(t))?

    • @fullfungo
      @fullfungo 2 года назад

      Just take the derivative twice

  • @三點一四一五九二六
    @三點一四一五九二六 7 месяцев назад

    Still don't understand, why can't I just use dw/dt instead of partial

    • @ojkwame
      @ojkwame Месяц назад

      I think you can , eg. At 9:56 , if you substitute the function of x with the variable x and like wise y

  • @mathadventuress
    @mathadventuress 3 года назад

    hi dr trefor, can you please make a video or have you already on 2nd derivatives? say if z=f(x,y) and x=x(r,s) and y=y(r,s)...and we want to find the 2nd derivative of z with respect to x or y...i have an example in my book and i just dont understand it. i follow along the first derivative just fine. but then it says
    d/dr times the first derivative...which so far makes sense, but then it looks like it is doing implicit differentiation or something?
    please, thanks!

  • @keerthanadiga3781
    @keerthanadiga3781 4 года назад

    why single independent variable chain rule has product of 2 slopes why they had to multiply the 2 slopes?? can anyone answer .... it would be a chance for others to think

  • @omer7895
    @omer7895 2 года назад

    What would be the gradient of w?

  • @khushinegi1363
    @khushinegi1363 4 года назад +1

    What about the higher order derivatives in two variables?

    • @khushinegi1363
      @khushinegi1363 4 года назад

      How will we calculate them?

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  4 года назад

      Well we mostly do what we just did, but twice. So if you can do, say, the partial with respect to x then just do that again to get the second partial with respect to x.

  • @Nik-qh7cq
    @Nik-qh7cq 3 года назад

    What if we have f(x,y) and a g(x,y) = (n(x), m(y)) and we need the derivative in respect of x for f(g(x,y))

  • @slowsatsuma3214
    @slowsatsuma3214 4 года назад +2

    I love you

  • @nadernaysak
    @nadernaysak 2 года назад

    You're a great teacher really, but your voice isn't clear and it sounds like a little noise there. Try a better mic. I WISH YOU THE BEST!

  • @aditube8781
    @aditube8781 2 года назад

    AMAZING

  • @Darkmatterkun
    @Darkmatterkun 2 года назад

    why does the theorem still hold true when the cross example proves it wrong

  • @abnereliberganzahernandez6337
    @abnereliberganzahernandez6337 Год назад +1

    I joined

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  Год назад +1

      Hey thank you so much! Glad to have you:)

  • @altuber99_athlete
    @altuber99_athlete 3 года назад +1

    Great explanation! The pauses were on time, but maybe talking a bit slower can help the viewer to grasp the concept under discussion. Regardless, nice job!
    One question.
    In your example, we had "w = f(x,y)" (and particularly "w = x^2 y"), where at the same time "x = g(t)" (and particularly "x = 2 t + 1") and "y = h(t)" (and particularly "y = t^3").
    That's fine, but I have a slightly different example. Suppose we have a function "w = f(x,y)" (without knowing any particular expression for "w"), where at the same time *"x = g(u,y,t)"* (not any specific expression for "x") and "y = h(t)" (not any specific expression for "y"). *Would the derivative "dw/dt" still be given by "∂w/∂x · dx/dt + ∂w/∂y · dt/dt, or would the formula change?* Notice the main difference between your example and mine is that in yours, "x = g(t)", while in my example, x = g(u,y,t)" where "u = i(t)".

  • @josephhajj1570
    @josephhajj1570 4 года назад +1

    Mr what's the proof of this chain rule😘😘😘

  • @dinigi
    @dinigi 6 месяцев назад

    Honestly, I don't really care about how and why this works on a fundamental basis. I am just looking to apply it correctly..

  • @birdhanhansdah8580
    @birdhanhansdah8580 3 года назад +2

    hhhha

  • @huijiang3051
    @huijiang3051 3 года назад +1

    Good than common teacher ,bu also not clear and to some degree, is a waste of time and energy to watch

    • @easymathe4all6247
      @easymathe4all6247 2 года назад

      ruclips.net/video/0Ppc7AzJtvI/видео.html
      full concept of chain rule