Multi-variable Optimization & the Second Derivative Test

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  • Опубликовано: 25 авг 2024

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  • @DrTrefor
    @DrTrefor  3 года назад +37

    Note that the conditions of the 2nd derivative test should also demand the 2nd partials are CONTINUOUS.

  • @Mobinahere
    @Mobinahere 3 года назад +46

    This playlist is, without a doubt, FASCINATING! Thank you!

  • @randompianonoises767
    @randompianonoises767 3 года назад +41

    SO THAT'S WHAT THE MIXED PARTIALS ARE FOR THANK YOU SIR

  • @ossahmadrezaazimikohnabi5108
    @ossahmadrezaazimikohnabi5108 Месяц назад +1

    I love that I live in an era where when I get confused studying my text book I can just come yo RUclips and have someone explain the same thing to me in 3D.
    Thank Dr, great lecture.

  • @chyldstudios
    @chyldstudios 4 года назад +27

    Clear explanation of mixed partial derivatives. More videos on the Hessian matrix and its applications.

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 года назад

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    • @OrionConstellationHome
      @OrionConstellationHome 2 года назад

      Where is the video "Hessian matrix and its applications"? Please give a link to it. Thanks.

  • @zeeshanmouzam5831
    @zeeshanmouzam5831 3 года назад +18

    THE BEST explanation.....I bet none of my teachers (in India) can even think of this...

    • @amansingh-ww2qc
      @amansingh-ww2qc 3 года назад

      Yes bhaai isilie India m koi maths m accha nhi karta bas rat Lete h underlying cheej koi nhi samjhaata ratwaa dete h

    • @Ck-ej6dy
      @Ck-ej6dy 3 года назад

      None😂
      Kuch v bhai

    • @adityashingne7808
      @adityashingne7808 3 года назад +1

      Not quite true… my professor did an excellent job

    • @mohamedirshaathm32123
      @mohamedirshaathm32123 Год назад +3

      U are from India and I am from India lets change it brother atleast in next generation....🔥🔥🔥

    • @archismandas7760
      @archismandas7760 Год назад +2

      @@mohamedirshaathm32123 the correct mindset 💪

  • @user-fr2jr6hd4i
    @user-fr2jr6hd4i 3 года назад +8

    The mixed partial derivative fxy=fyx is the concavity on the line x=y, explained in 10:30, is great.
    Thank you.

  • @BrytonWA
    @BrytonWA 2 года назад +5

    Thank you for the intuitive explanation of the mixed second partial derivative and what it is representing. I took some time sitting and contemplating on my own before I came to a similar conclusion. It's nice to hear some confirmation of that!

  • @sazdaz1955
    @sazdaz1955 3 года назад +4

    Exceptionally good and easy to follow explanation! I was having trouble understanding how to interpret the calculation for the 2nd derivative test and this definitely helped a lot.

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 года назад

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  • @badrmoubile9219
    @badrmoubile9219 Год назад +1

    For the people who don't understand the pink part, it is just the result of the Hessian 2x2 matrix. that you solve by doing, a.d-b.c

  • @jonpritzker9709
    @jonpritzker9709 Год назад

    Dang, I posted two comments here, first one I thought I was so clever because your diagram and explanations were so clear I got the idea before you said the words ....... but then you said exactly the words ...... and the second comment was a question ....... and then you explained that question. You are an excellent teacher

  • @riyaverma4724
    @riyaverma4724 3 года назад +3

    Thank you so much! Your videos are helping me survive multivariable calculus :)

  • @dilekpusat8248
    @dilekpusat8248 Месяц назад

    Thank you for clear and engaging teaching. It was wonderful.

  • @isakwatz11
    @isakwatz11 3 года назад +6

    thanks man! never knew what mixed partials are supposed to mean but you made it crystal clear! :D

  • @noctua7771
    @noctua7771 3 года назад +4

    This is the best explanation I've ever seen. Thank you my man!

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 года назад

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  • @aashsyed1277
    @aashsyed1277 3 года назад +1

    so that is what it has application! thanks! you explain like 100x better my teacher.

  • @thinhvucuong4089
    @thinhvucuong4089 4 года назад +3

    Great video!! I really looking forward to your new video in this topic. Thank you!

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 года назад

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  • @hareshwedanayake7427
    @hareshwedanayake7427 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much! You are such a great teacher. This simplified this topic so much for me

  • @christianondo9637
    @christianondo9637 5 месяцев назад

    great explanation. having visuals in 3D is sooo important to understanding multivariable calc

  • @GoutamDAS-ls1wb
    @GoutamDAS-ls1wb 3 года назад +2

    Thanks so much Professor Bazett for this excellent, lively presentation! You convey your enthusiasm to your audience. They are helping me so much as I review multivariable calculus being offered on edX. I am very, very grateful.

  • @joaomattos9271
    @joaomattos9271 Год назад

    Fantastic way of teaching!!! I recommend the classes here in Brazil!

  • @azbebggddef
    @azbebggddef 2 года назад +1

    im korean college student and thank you for your hing class lecture.

  • @tpsashok
    @tpsashok 5 месяцев назад +1

    Very helpful! Thanks 👏👏👏

  • @dvir-ross
    @dvir-ross Месяц назад

    Great explanation! Thanks

  • @user-xe8lu4zt4f
    @user-xe8lu4zt4f 3 года назад

    This Video is awesome that I can clearly understand this concept.
    I truly love the calculus!!!

  • @marflem12
    @marflem12 3 года назад

    Thanks for that. always struggled to find an intuitive understanding for the mixed 2nd pd. and its' significance. Think you nailed it. Thank you.

  • @nadaabdelkhalek3844
    @nadaabdelkhalek3844 3 года назад +1

    Excellent explanation!

  • @NumbToons
    @NumbToons Год назад +2

    I nominate you for Nobel Prize.

  • @amansingh-ww2qc
    @amansingh-ww2qc 3 года назад +1

    Sir kasam s English m likh k feeling nhi aayega , mzaa AAA gyaa kasam s

  • @ahmedelsabagh6990
    @ahmedelsabagh6990 3 года назад +1

    Clear and simple

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 года назад

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  • @skymer5108
    @skymer5108 3 года назад +1

    Great video! Thanks for the explanation

  • @AJ-et3vf
    @AJ-et3vf 2 года назад +1

    Awesome video sir! Thank you!

  • @shefalichoudhary3082
    @shefalichoudhary3082 Год назад

    Thank you So much... Very Easy and Perfect Explanation.. Really Helpful video

  • @sergiolucas38
    @sergiolucas38 2 года назад +1

    nice video, very straightforward, detailed explanation :)

  • @HermanToMath
    @HermanToMath 4 года назад +1

    I love your intuitive explanation! :-D

  • @ycombinator765
    @ycombinator765 3 года назад +2

    You are just awesome!!!
    I want to be this good in Maths... :)

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  3 года назад +1

      Keep working at it, you'll get there!

    • @ycombinator765
      @ycombinator765 3 года назад

      @@DrTrefor thank you!
      I am trying my level best.

  • @olehborys1462
    @olehborys1462 Год назад

    Great, thank you very much for this explanation

  • @syabongajele6431
    @syabongajele6431 3 года назад +1

    wow very informative and very clear wow !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @siddhanttomar2042
    @siddhanttomar2042 Год назад +1

    nice visualation

  • @bhaveshmutkure8150
    @bhaveshmutkure8150 2 года назад +1

    Sir you are the best really 😇

  • @cesarmoreno987y
    @cesarmoreno987y Год назад

    Great video hope youre having a great day

  • @rlaajaj
    @rlaajaj 5 месяцев назад

    I love how well you explain the intuition, you have an extremely pedagogical way of teaching maths!
    I had one doubt that I couldn't solve and confused me:
    Assume the function x^2 + y^2 + 3 xy
    It gives me fxx=2, fyy=2 and fxy=3 Hence fxx.fyy - fxy^2 = 4-9 = -5

  • @Economics365
    @Economics365 3 года назад +1

    Thank you sir

  • @michaelhuntington3545
    @michaelhuntington3545 8 месяцев назад

    What is the connection for the formula to the derivative of the mixed partial matrix?

  • @dhananjayjoshi3561
    @dhananjayjoshi3561 3 года назад

    Really nice explanation... Waiting for more videos in this manner

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 года назад

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  • @user-xh5ct4yw3x
    @user-xh5ct4yw3x 5 месяцев назад

    the best as always

  • @toobanadeem5277
    @toobanadeem5277 5 месяцев назад

    What should we do,if we encounter inconclusive condition?

  • @samyakmahajan6828
    @samyakmahajan6828 3 года назад +1

    Thanks!

  • @rogerhoefel8515
    @rogerhoefel8515 4 года назад

    Great video, but I suggest to use convex/concave instead of down concave ....

  • @qandos-nour
    @qandos-nour 4 года назад +1

    Thank you 👍🏻

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 года назад

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  • @aidenstonehouse9651
    @aidenstonehouse9651 Год назад

    Please can you make a video just on mixed partials - graphically what is going on. I still do not understand.

  • @MultiKB13
    @MultiKB13 3 года назад +2

    Points where the partial derivatives don't exist also should be candidate points for the 1st derivative test right? For example, the point on a cone.

  • @josephhajj1570
    @josephhajj1570 4 года назад +6

    WOW

  • @OrionConstellationHome
    @OrionConstellationHome 2 года назад

    ? from one of the comments below: Where is the video "Hessian matrix and its applications"? Please give a link to it. Thank You! Great job!

  • @kylevebar3909
    @kylevebar3909 3 года назад +1

    Had to come back to this video lol, copied second derivative rule wrong with the equalities and it was a hard problem

  • @Niglnws
    @Niglnws Год назад

    I tried to figure out what fxy means so,
    We think of first derivative as difference in function as in the limit formula for derivatives.
    Think of the second derivative as difference IN DERIVATIVE.
    For local minimum the derivative was negative then the derivative was positive and positive minus negative is positive so when fxx is positive it is a local minimum.
    Now for fxy think of it as ok get the derivative with respect to x. Now we have a function fx (first derivative) so when we go in y direction, how the derivative of with respect to x changes.
    More clearly as in the example in the video, the derivative at x=0 is 0 as z does not change. But if we go some small distance in y you will find that when you subsitute in the fx (first derivative) with new values of y and SAME X, you will find that z has decreased !!! So it wasnt local minimum as fx said and it is clear in the visualization that the slope IS DOWNWARDS. SO WE HAVE SLOPE = 0 THEN SLOPE = NEGATIVE. AND NEGATIVE - 0 = NEGATIVE as we found mathematically that fxy is negative.
    It is like ok i am local minimum along x but am i higher in other directions? Like i am at the bottom of a house on a mountain, i can move only up my house or stay at the bottom but i cant move forward as i will fall (i am not at bottom at this point, there is a point more bottom than me).
    But i really dont get the meaning of fxx times fyy, what does their result say. But i think it does not tell something special other than that it is compared with fxy to see which is larger. Also i dont get why someone larger meaning suddenly something. 😅

  • @paulwolter3186
    @paulwolter3186 2 года назад

    What do the second derivative tests look like when the function has 3 or more independent variables?

  • @tassneamosman6998
    @tassneamosman6998 3 года назад +1

    wait can someone explain how at min 10:05 he gets the line x=y, f(x,x)=-x^2? Like idk if my brain is just fried but i do not see where that's coming from and now suddenly my mouse is hovering over the "withdraw from MATH 1320" option in my enrollment portal.

    • @tassneamosman6998
      @tassneamosman6998 3 года назад +1

      nevermind yall i just needed a nap i figured it out

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 года назад

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  • @maxamadomar5454
    @maxamadomar5454 7 месяцев назад

    It became complex from saddle and forward

  • @quang.5613
    @quang.5613 2 дня назад

    i wish i found this earlier AGAHAGGAGGAGAG

  • @mathveeresh168
    @mathveeresh168 4 года назад

    Great video ❤️

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 года назад

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  • @experienceit-knowit
    @experienceit-knowit 3 года назад

    Hi
    Will this work for 3 and 4 variable functions also? How to do in that case?

  • @jayneelshah7609
    @jayneelshah7609 3 года назад

    Great Explanation!
    I have a doubt though.. say my function is sinx+siny+sin(x+y) partial derivative w.r.t. x and y will be cosx+cos(x+y)=0 and cosy+cos(x+y)=0 respectively, now to find the critical points do I equate both the eqations and thus eliminate cos(x+y) or do I go by the general rule and expand the functions by addition formula? According to me, we should go by the second method as it is generalized but the first way also gives the correct answer...why is it so? Please Reply whenever you can.
    Thank You :)

    • @madghostek3026
      @madghostek3026 2 года назад +1

      I think the first way is more of an trick, but totally works, both partial derivatives should be equal to 0 at some x,y, so in fact they will also be equal to each other. So you get cosx=cosy

  • @ton146
    @ton146 3 года назад

    I was reading another book on CAD/CAM where it is stated that the gradient vector gives the normal to a tangent plane at a point. I can provide the details of the book if required. I do not believe this to be true and so I am trying to resolve this apparent clash. Can you confirm whether or not the book statement is true or not to try and save me some time. Is there a special case where this might be true?
    Thanks
    Tony

    • @muthukumarr5217
      @muthukumarr5217 3 года назад

      Yes, it is true. Gradient vector always gives the normal to the plane which is why you use to find the tangent plane at any point. Why did you believe it is not true?

    • @isakwatz11
      @isakwatz11 3 года назад

      ​@@muthukumarr5217
      I'm not Tony Aimer but I found it counter intuitive at first. I would have thought the gradient pointed in the direction of speepest ascent / descent but later learned about the whole "normal" thing.

  • @ruelmckenzie4616
    @ruelmckenzie4616 2 года назад +1

    The content is good but the form of the presentation is destracting. Focusing back and forth on the presenter and the diagram and listening to a forceful voice is quite challenging for me.

  • @frosty8655
    @frosty8655 4 года назад +1

    great video but i feel mic needs improvement.

    • @DrTrefor
      @DrTrefor  4 года назад

      oh man, the office I was in for filming this was SO BAD for sound. Much better set up these days.

    • @ricand5498
      @ricand5498 3 года назад

      Agreed, the volume goes back and forth between too low and too loud

  • @continnum_radhe-radhe
    @continnum_radhe-radhe 2 года назад +1

    🔥🔥🙏

  • @amansingh-ww2qc
    @amansingh-ww2qc 3 года назад

    Love u sir ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ MAA kasam pyaar ho gya sir aapse

  • @yurailiesesay8317
    @yurailiesesay8317 Год назад

    i want to understand marginal product

  • @markbell8967
    @markbell8967 3 года назад +1

    algo fuel

  • @emc2884
    @emc2884 2 года назад

    Thank you very much sir keep growing up (◍•ᴗ•◍)❤♥╣[-_-]╠♥

  • @sergiomanzetti1021
    @sergiomanzetti1021 3 года назад

    Nice tutorial, but the acoustics is strange, it sounds like you are teaching from a bathroom or a cave.

  • @gholamrezasalarkarimi5005
    @gholamrezasalarkarimi5005 3 года назад

    Dear sir you are speaking too fast, it is difficult to understand your standpoint of your statements for we foreigners. Please speak more slowly, why are you in hurry!

    • @beoptimistic5853
      @beoptimistic5853 3 года назад

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