The guy probably has the degree but everything he’s tried to get his city council to do as been rejected and he’s taking his anger out on a Swedish block game
Well it's not like architects can do anything else. They are just engineers but without any important knowledge. Besides no matter how much an architect claims to influence builds, it's going to be an ugly white cookie cutter building with or without an architect. The only important variable is the engineers, architects aren't like they were 100 years ago where they had amazing stone carvings, actually well made buildings and basically carried the theme of a town.
funny that the "architect" reached out trough discord of all things instead of a cease and desist trough post or email, modern architects really are gaming hard these days
I think it was mostly a troll or some money-hungry conman thinking he could pull the wool over the team's eyes. As if a team dedicated to literally depicting the entire earth wasn't intelligent or organized enough to do their own research.
@UC8d9FwOTBDeIQtiwzt7M-kw You deserve a reality check. Or a smack in the face, if that gets it done. In what clown world does copyright complaining warrant capital punishment? How long has it been since you had a conversation with a real person?
@@jordanwardle11 I would argue that this is significant change. They're recreating the building in a virtual medium, whereas the building is real. This does not replace the need for such a building, doesn't impact the financial demand for the building on the people who own it or the people who constructed it, and is no different than an artist using a building for a background in their art.
That dude is just what happens when a smartish person is also a troll. I went to school for legal studies and have worked with lawyers for years, his weird little case wouldn’t be picked up by any lawyer and if it did, it would be thrown out right away
@@inspectorjavert9868 It would be thrown out off the simple basis that this is would fall under fair use because it's nonprofit educational and in no way competes with the original source.
Certain buildings can't be photographed to an extent....for instance the eiffel tower with lights has a copyright holder but I can't remember exactly what the stipulation is
@@shivathedestroyer6477 HAI did a video on this, he said you can’t take pictures of the eiffel tower at night because the lights are copyrighted , but guess what? There’s videos videos of that right here on yt.
One of the issues of living in a litigious society. Everyone wants easy money and will attack anyone legally for any reason. A good chunk of lawsuits are always frivolous and pointless.
If I was an architect and some people built a "replica" of a building I designed in Minecraft, I'd be honored to tears. This architect guy has either an iron block for a heart or the intelligence of a stepped upon peanut.
As an architect and also a Minecraft builder, this is quite embarrassing. If someone recreated my projects into Minecraft I'd be glad and honored. Either way, great video man keep up the good work!
Just wondering, wasn't Minecraft recreation is structurally different due to its blocky format that it cannot infringe on existing copyright to be copied? It will eventually look different in detail.
I aM aN aRkiTeChT aNd I aM gOiNg To MaKe A bUiLdiNg WiTh MeTeR tHiCk WaLlS aNd ALigNeD fACinG nOrTh So I cAn SuE yOu! Edit: I guess it wouldn't be facing North, cause I watched the other video that explains their angles.
I would love to see actual architectural plans derived from the minecraft buildings. Like, the walls are composed of segments of meter thick walls, no diagonals, strange materials like a meter cube of pink wool, etc.
Honestly 50/50 on this guy being a troll. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this guy was so self righteous he felt like he had the authority to sue on behalf of all architects everywhere
plus often it's easier for someone to pay a few thousand for a settlement even if the lawsuit is frivolous just to make it go away. Trolls and scammers know this, so they do things like this just to see what they can get. There are lawyers that make a living out of things like this.
I feel like he's serious. He has too much understanding of the law even if it's ultimately a misinformed understanding, for me to think this is just trolling. This guy's really went digging into copyright laws and thinks he's found a loophole to make some quick money. Hopefully he hires a competent lawyer who can talk him out of it
@@PermadeathHD yeah but he actually read it. I'm not saying the guy has any experience or aptitude for law, just that he had an impressive layman's understanding for someone who wasn't serious. He could definitely be a troll and even if he's not that doesn't mean that if he gets pushed he'll actually be willing to push back. It just seems like too much effort for trolling, but some trolls are weird like that I guess
Let's not forget that a video game depicted the Notre Dame cathedral to such an intricate level that its model was used in restoring the cathedral after the fire.
Bad comparison. Notre Dame is located in France so U. S. law doesn't matter at all. And even if there was a similar law in France, Notre Dame was built a little before 1900.
@@Max..Q It doesn't apply in terms of the law, yes, I was only presenting this example to show that models of existing architecture can be used for beneficial purposes.
@@AdamOwens135 Well, true enough. But he somehow implied it by comparing the two cases in this context. I don't want to offend anybody, but not long ago I followed a discussion in which many US Americans couldn't believe that US law doesn't apply all over the world. I just wanted to mention it.
@@deer563 Actually he will put them on an island, on a mountain, surrounded by sewage and hysterically laugh while they consume their own excrement and there oddly shaped buildings burn. He may even turn it into a tourist attraction and exploit it for electricity.
As an artist, I immediately knew that that lawsuit wasn't gonna fly coz of "Artistc depiction" in copyright laws since any and all benign depictions of public objects (including buildings) is basically a free space for artists and no amount of lawyering artistic rights since it is included in the law of Freedom of Speech
@@reptiles3244 no he’s correct, any art that is unsigned or undesignated is just as free game as walking into a public space and sketching the first building you see. Artistic expression is protected by free speech laws, however copyright is a subset of laws that protect the creative properties of said thing. For example I legally cannot read a book aloud and sell it online for other people to listen to, but I can read the book aloud on my own regardless of the fact it’s copyrighted
Did they sue every photographer that has ever taken a photograph of those buildings. If not, then fair use in art means that they don't have a legal leg to stand on in court.
We must now visit every building this architect designed, create a 3D model of their internals and externals and then put them for free to download on the internet
It's refreshing to see how you methodically handled the troll with evidence, maturity and factual justification, all while keeping it entertaining to watch. Great video!
If I was rich enough, I would buy every building that did this to you and give you permission to build it. Unfortunately, because of covid, my human trafficking business really fell off quick and I'm not as baller as first promised.
"Well, you see judge, they built what looks like a low resolution Lego version of the building I own in a video game. Therefore they owe me." Good luck with that one...
If this guy ever does proceed to court, please use the sand castle analogy seriously. Ask the court if a child who makes a representation of a real castle out of sand is liable for damages.
Goo goo Gaa gaa (as a 3 year old this exactly happened to me, he attacked me with a plastic hammer and is now wanted in 5 states.. I'm currently in the [bed] hospital and I don't think I'll make it xd)
As an actual law student, I can say that this video would be really useful in your defense, if there were such a real case of copyright architecture infringement.
@@fkez0510 in the defamation cases against alex jones, lawyers have used excerpts from videos posted on his website as acceptable evidence. Its not at all far-fetched
I remember when Abe said "no more shall the lowly architect have to worry, from this day on criminals will be punished to the full extent of the law for the heinous act of recreating buildings in minecraft", what a powerful quote.
Such a powerful quote it literally made me rethink all my life choices, get a job that pays 200k salary and become a part of a happy family with 4 kids
I study architecture and play a lot of minecraft, the only time you can't represent a building without the autor approving it is in real life as a public infrastructure, some architect even copied other architect work as their house without ever getting in any trouble
You are wrong. They do get in a lot of trouble if the architect whose work is stolen goes after them. Most architects don't have the money to do this so people are getting away with something, not doing something that is within the law. Just because you don't get in trouble doesn't mean it isn't wrong.
This gets even funnier when you realise searching for laws in cases like this is what you do in introduction to law class at university. So a "lawyer" in his first year of law school would put this guy under in like 5 minutes if you give him time to look for the pages in his law book
you dont need to be in law school to see this guy is an idiot or to find the necessary laws, just some looks at laws around virtual worlds, copywrite and architecture and hes done
That's not the goal. The suit, if not dismissed as entirely frivolous, would still cost both parties money, which means the poorer person/s lose by default.
"I'm sorry but this concern is outside the scope of technical support. Please have your attorney send a notarized Cease and Desist letter to the PO Box of our legal department (or the owner of the project / whoever owns or rents the server). Please also bear in mind that impersonation or counterfeiting of official legal correspondence is in and of itself a crime. This conversation is over. Thank you and have a nice day."
@@KhanMann66 yeah that's what I was thinking. If you were actually about to sue somebody or tell them you were gonna sue them you sure as hell aren't gonna be using hey yall as your opening line
Let's not forget that the PDF he sent also says that it only applies to TANGIBLE things. Since nobody can physically touch the buildings in Minecraft (only a digital character controlled by the player can) architectural copyright laws cannot even apply to digital media such as video games.
A Minecraft world qualifies as tangible. Same as someone designing a building in design software. "Tangible" means it exists outside your head, you can't own the copyright to a building design that you imagined but never wrote down somewhere.
@@tylerpeterson4726 That's a rather broad view of it though. There is precedent against it. In filmmaking, establishing shots need no permission to film anything so long as they're filming from a public place. One could film the outside of the building without permission. The same could apply here. It could be reasonably argued that they are just recreating filmed or photographed material on another medium, with THE GAME'S CAMERA.
ok so the architect is willing to sue you for building structures from the real world out of pixelated blocks? man, this society gets dumber every day.... Edit: Thanks for the likes!
Considering the fact that there are numerous architects, architecture students and people looking to become architecture students (including myself), who found out their love for architectural satisfaction by building in Minecraft through all that their creative minds could think of, without hitting paywall after paywall and be faced with the prospect of building entire workstations, I'd say a lot of architects these days would be honored to find their own designs replicated in Minecraft, where they, themselves, started. I certainly would.
im in school to become a architect, got another solid 4 more years, were chilling, ill figure it out. but seriously, minecraft is still huge with architecture. look at all the programs we use to design and build the floor plans and buildings themselves, minecraft is actually huge just being able to brain storm, see your idea in person, how lighting, basic thing interact with a minecraft build, can easily cross over into building real structures if that makes sense. rant over
Absolutely! As an architect myself, I totally agree with you. I would love if someone actually built in a game, wheater is Minecraft or even The Sims, one of my projects.
Let’s not forget the “Humanly habitable” part (5:20). Humans cannot live in what amounts to a bunch of empty facades inside a video game, as impressive as those facades are.
Neither are the Minecraft buildings meant to last indefinitely, as any destruction of the files or the game system they sit on can and at some point, will be destroyed.
@@anticlickbait It's to determine whether the architect actually has a copyright that can be infringed - not the extent to which it has been infringed upon
Good message, horrifically bad video editing. Protip: Making a RUclips video where you highlight every solitary word you're saying with a clip from a movie or stock footage doesn't make an interesting video. It makes it obnoxious.
@@callumkristofer7793 The detailed and carefully crafted counterargument here fits exactly in the mold of throwing stock footage at everything you need filler for. Boring, unoriginal, trite.
@@VesperAegis The detailed and carefully crafted counterargument here fits exactly in the mold of throwing stock footage at everything you need filler for. Boring, unoriginal, trite.
I like to think that this is an "architect" that makes nothing but those hideous grey squares of concrete and consider every single one of them a masterpiece You know, the ones that look like *every single Minecraft beginner home* But IRL
If someone actually sues you over one specific building, remove the building and replace it with a giant block looking like a pixelated building and make it clear with a sign who made you do this (with name, and company, and anything).
Um... Your defense is simple... Does your building have round or curved surfaces? Guess what Minecraft DOESN'T have... Round edges. Therefore any structure contained in Minecraft is squared off and is subject to artistic representation protection by law.
And the buildings... Idk if they are "tangible" or not. I mean, a computer is tangible, but a building in a video game isn't exactly tangible. You can see it, but that's it. You can't touch it with your own body, sniff it, or even attempt to take a bite out of it. Because it's just a bunch of pixels at the end of the day.
Than not how the law works. You can't just take a Pixar movie convert all the pixels into colored dots and say that it's fine because there are to straight edges. It'd simply be a derivative work.
@a Then what about making a 144p version as that will make everything blocky. It'd still be a derivative work even though you are losing out on a lot of details.
They’re not though, the guy claiming to be architect and is suing them is an idiot that no judge or lawyer in any court is going to look at this case and say “yeah this is totally not a gigantic waste of my time.”
I'm imagining a judge taking one look at this case, looking at the people trying to sue you for playing a video game that is essentially a block stacking simulator, and saying, "Are you f*cking serious?" and then literally throwing them out of the courtroom.
7:08 > The material... The material does literally not exist. It's just a fancy array of digits symbolizing a string that represents a block with a texture. What are you gonna copyright? A word? A number sequence?
@@fontainebreaks Yeah, that's the good thing. Even if a video game is created towards kids in mind, adults can enjoy them too, as long as it's fun. Although, if a video game is created for adults, I don't think kids should play them. So I guess it depends.
At the start of this video I thought "wait a minute, surely you can't copyright something a tourist could take a picture of, its gotta be be the plans themselves that are what's protected" I am glad I was close enough to the answer.
Assuming this was even a legit threat, they didn't mention what THEIR building was to ask for it to be removed and I'm pretty sure that you can't, idk, sue for copyright over other people's copyrighted material to try to gain a profit for yourself lol.
yea they just said "the buildings" which means they are claiming copywrite for all buildings in the USA built after december 1st 1990 which he cant do so court would probably throw the case out but if this even IS an actual case and not just a troll, they would probably specify which buildings they have a copywrite to and court would just say to remove the buildings and stop wasting court time
If for some reason, building a similar looking structure in minecraft for archival reasons *wasn’t* fair use, I suggest you guys paste a massive p***s at the location of every building you are told not to build.
@@capybara9521 Why tf are you defending this person in multiple comment threads? Are you the one that sued? No matter how you look at it, its literally the dumbest shit in the world
if you share it on social media, if you're popular of course. So if you're doing that just don't share it until you're done, that should fix the problem.
@@capybara9521 Is there such a thing as a reverse is-aught fallacy, where you try to argue against someone saying how they think something should be done by stating how it's actually done? Because if there is, you just committed it.
Having one of your buildings immortalised in minecraft would be one of crown acheivements if I was an architect. Not only would my mark on the world exist in the form of a building existing out there in the wild, but that very existence is further acknowledged by its existence in a computerised depiction if the world further hammering home that point that something of me will be left behind when I die. How can they not be flattered. I dunno
The downside of being able to sue anyone for something as easy as getting hurt in their home while trying to kidnap someone, summs up: the American law system needs to be changed
thats not exactly how it works, there's different court systems for different types of lawsuits, and on the other hand, that's democracy for you. You can sue anyone you want with a reason, it works the same way in many other countries.
Suing people is part of murican culture. Nowhere else on earth do you hear people going ‘Newsflash bucko! I will SUE YOU! Yeaaaah sir, that’s right pal, I will SUE the HECK outta you!’ You’re the only mfs who call each other ‘sir’ when fighting 🤣🤣 The only sue we have in Europe is SIIUUUUUUUUU ⚽️
@@xihacks7001 lol, in Germany you can go to prison for insulting someone, also there's a thing called trespassing. Now, nowhere did I mention you can win the lawsuit, I simply stated that you can sue anyone with a reason in a lot of countries not just the US.
The copyright isn't viable anyways because get this, most blocks in Minecraft are 1 meter cubed and most buildings have something that cannot be recreated with this essentially gridlock system therefore Vanilla Minecraft is excluded from all laws about irl copyrights.
To be honest, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to take this down. People could just download it for themselves, they cant just sue hundreds of people one by one! That would take YEARS!!!!
@Xscreade I have played on a modded mmorpg server that utilize chisel and bits for a lot of builds, honestly it isn't that laggy even on my somewhat lower end PC
yup, also alot more data for each block, not really time worthy unless 500 years later we can store much more data and create bots that mimic every inch in the real world then maybe yes
Y'all know there are dozens of Minecraft Disney Parks recreation servers that use actual copyrighted imagery and audio but are protected because it's in Minecraft. My lawyers will not be in contact...
I’m an architect and I think that projects like this are exciting and should be celebrated and that my fellow colleagues share this view. Hope that assh0le was not one of us 😆
I mean, it wouldn't even go through, would it? He doesn't own all those buildings, and while I'm no expert on the law, far from it, I do know that copyright kinda requires you to own the right to it
Imagine you build the entire earth and of the 8 billion people on it *1 guy* starts complaining, and you're that guy, I couldn't even fathom such embarrassing behaviour
Hi architect in training here, please continue building more into minecraft. This project alone serves as a way to preserve lost architecture should in an event of a natural/man made disaster occur.
After the burn of Nôtre Dames everyone was thinking we lost hundreds of history, thanks to Assassin's Creed based in France we can rebuild the cathedral. Now, imagine a person (probably from USA since they like sue everyone for everything that in a civilized nation don't bother to do) that define himself as an """architect""" sue because they used a building protected by UNESCO. The audacity to do is frightening sometimes
Satellite 3d imaging could be placed into archives and i do believe that previous google earth images have been archived already, not that im against the minecraft thing, but most of whats in the minecraft thing is already placed in some form of online archive (unless google just deleats it) i have no clue if any other agency's do this
@ 2:35 Never thought I’d see a reference to The Lost Room, an extremely obscure sci fi miniseries that also happens to be one of my all time favorites. (It's available for free on RUclips FYI)
you don't know much about laws do you lol lots of people are are "experts" who have never went to a single day of law school but they say oh this is just silly legal threats...ones that the courts have protected for years with these laws...lemme guess, 7 years old?
Copyright, trademark, and patent law is less about “Is this legal?” as it is “Does the owner care”? In fact, that’s the whole reason that governments protect this stuff in the first place. If the owner doesn’t care, there are no copyright police that are going to throw somebody in jail. In this particular case, why would anyone care? Even if these publicly visible buildings had some sort of protection, why would the owners bother enforcing it? Nobody was making money off of this project. Even the RUclipsrs talking about it have got to be covered by Fair Use.
You know, I’m pretty sure you can’t sue on behalf of somebody else without their consent. Cause this guy is claiming he’s going to sue for all architects, but I doubt you can do that.
@@melody3741 Well a class-action wouldn't happen anyways because any competent Judge should/would throw the lawsuit out before class-action could be established (you don't bring a class-action to the court, you bring multiple plantiffs and ask a judge to combine the cases into a class -action). The main reason is that none of the plantiffs have suffered ANY damages. Without damages or the potential of damages you can have no complaint in the eyes of the court. Plus I'm sure minecraft versions of the buildings would be fine under the "Fair Use" clause.
@@capybara9521 both sides of what? One side is people trying to play a fuckin block game where you stack blocks on other blocks and the other side is someone trying to sue them for stacking block on other blocks in the FUCKING. BLOCK. GAME. The game literally has visible pixels. If these guys are getting sued then I guess anyone who's ever taken a photo of a building ever should be sued too 😂 like Jesus Christ what a clown
"Dude I own this building. Do you really think you can get away with theft when you're showing what you stole from me directly to my face? My lawyers will make an easy job of this case. Prepare to say goodbye to your luscious life and start preparing for the streets. I will ruin you." - The Architect Messiah.
You can own the building as much as you like. This argument is about the rights to the design of the building, not the building itself. Which will alway be unique because every different location will need different types of foundation due to the ground makeup and local area (e.g. historical buildings nearby that would be disturbed by building work). Therefore immediately, it's a different design.
I can almost guarantee that this copyright law was put into place to prevent architects from stealing building designs from other architects. Example being an architect builds a building in NYC, another architect can’t take the design and make a complete copy of said building in LA. I don’t think the lawmakers in 1990 were writing this law intending to prevent people playing cube game from having fun.
I knew this guy wasn't an architect the moment he wrote "Y'all" What fucking architect would contact a project through Discord with "Y'all" on a legal matter ?
Yeah an an actual architect would need to take a hit that nasty soy drink then go on a stupid tirade of how much of a better person he is than you for arbitrary and hypocritical reasons probably related to his I support the thing twitter bio. Then screech about lawsuits after being offended you didn't praise his black and indigenous arts and crafts project he calls a job.
No, its the always the fucking contractors. And some engineers should stick to engineering. Both my parents were career LICENSENSED architects with each with 40+ years experience in design. Graphite and coffee smell permeated the home office (my parents also worked for firms as well), and the problems I always heard about was the crappy contractor, the engineer who thought he was a designer, or the client with big egos and large wallets demanding unrealistic changes and things. Oh and then there's the building department....so DON'T BLAME ARCHITECTS!!
@@somethingsomeonesaid6455 i have heard way more engineers complaining about unsustainable designs from architects than architects about engineers overstepping into their field
@@jordanwardle11Fair Use is always an exception. The question is whether this qualifies as Fair Use. A simple media change is not a factor of Fair Use as the exact media can be used. The nature of use, the nature of original copyright work, the amount used, and the effect of use are all factors.
@@jordanwardle11 Well then he can sue Google and the U.S Government for their Satellites and street view Oh wait they can't because they don't have the balls
“As an artist” Ive done some half ass digging into this topic years ago. It’s complicated, and It depends on a few things, “is any money made from the copyrighted likeness in question” and “is it in the same medium as the copyrighted likeness in question” This means if you take a drawing Winnie the Pooh, (well… before the 100 year rule was in place) and build a life size lego model of Winnie, then it’s perfectly legal. But, if you, say, built and exact copy of a lego winnie the pooh Disney made, and claimed it as your original, then yes, that could be illegal. Another example, if you draw a picture of Captain Picard from Star Trek, you can do that, Paramount can’t stop you, BUT that’s also a likeness of Patrick Stewart, if you drew him doing something awful that he didn’t actually do, then he can sue you and win, but that’s not a copyright issue.
Imagine having nothing better to do as an architect than suing some juicy Minecraft boys having a blast.
The guy probably has the degree but everything he’s tried to get his city council to do as been rejected and he’s taking his anger out on a Swedish block game
"juicy Minecraft boys"
Well it's not like architects can do anything else. They are just engineers but without any important knowledge. Besides no matter how much an architect claims to influence builds, it's going to be an ugly white cookie cutter building with or without an architect. The only important variable is the engineers, architects aren't like they were 100 years ago where they had amazing stone carvings, actually well made buildings and basically carried the theme of a town.
by doing this he many become hated (archinet) by us fans and other players
he was probably the guy that designed the crappy places on moists videos, putting marble on marble.
funny that the "architect" reached out trough discord of all things instead of a cease and desist trough post or email, modern architects really are gaming hard these days
lmfao
I think it was mostly a troll or some money-hungry conman thinking he could pull the wool over the team's eyes. As if a team dedicated to literally depicting the entire earth wasn't intelligent or organized enough to do their own research.
@@josiahfugal5407 if that's the cause that guy needs to be harassed
@@charlieroberts7031 No one does. It's nonsense and the guy knows it. Harassing makes us no better than the trolls.
@UC8d9FwOTBDeIQtiwzt7M-kw You deserve a reality check. Or a smack in the face, if that gets it done.
In what clown world does copyright complaining warrant capital punishment?
How long has it been since you had a conversation with a real person?
imagine little timmy building a house in minecraft and getting swat raided because of architects.
He might, if that building is inside area 52 for example
Ohh noooo...not lil Timmy
FBI has joined.
@@kkrup5395 so... by suing him... they literally says to public that his exists there, and prove it
welcome to capitalism
two words: [Fair Use]
Anyone who sues someone over an artistic representation needs their heads examined
Fair use doesn't cover media change. It needs to significantly change it.
@@jordanwardle11 I would argue that this is significant change. They're recreating the building in a virtual medium, whereas the building is real. This does not replace the need for such a building, doesn't impact the financial demand for the building on the people who own it or the people who constructed it, and is no different than an artist using a building for a background in their art.
@@jordanwardle11It technically does, cause as far as I'm aware, this isn't being built for money.
@@themeddite copyright has NOTHING to do with commerce. trademarks are what concerns commerce
As true as this is, if a company were to sue them could they pay the legal fee's to fight it?
That dude is just what happens when a smartish person is also a troll. I went to school for legal studies and have worked with lawyers for years, his weird little case wouldn’t be picked up by any lawyer and if it did, it would be thrown out right away
You shouldn't assume. You can't even imagine how many extremely stupid lawsuits were accepted, some even won.
Lawyers are like evil trickster genies in a fairytale rewording and taking what you say and do out of context for their own malicious intent lol
The law system is a joke, meaning there's a big possibility that if real this will be taken to court
@@yous2244 yeah but in his case he didn't even mention the building he was suing over
@@inspectorjavert9868 It would be thrown out off the simple basis that this is would fall under fair use because it's nonprofit educational and in no way competes with the original source.
This cease & desist would also have to imply that it's illegal to take a picture of any building made after 1990
Or paint a painting of it.
Gross a Serbian
Certain buildings can't be photographed to an extent....for instance the eiffel tower with lights has a copyright holder but I can't remember exactly what the stipulation is
@@shivathedestroyer6477 HAI did a video on this, he said you can’t take pictures of the eiffel tower at night because the lights are copyrighted , but guess what? There’s videos videos of that right here on yt.
its illegal to even look or think about them
One of the issues of living in a litigious society. Everyone wants easy money and will attack anyone legally for any reason. A good chunk of lawsuits are always frivolous and pointless.
Source?
@@SmashingCapital no
@@SmashingCapital trust me bro
@@SmashingCapital living on the planet Earth
Maybe these kinds of people should be ignored rather than given attention
If I was an architect and some people built a "replica" of a building I designed in Minecraft, I'd be honored to tears. This architect guy has either an iron block for a heart or the intelligence of a stepped upon peanut.
Y would u insult a peanut and iron block like that
I think it's both
Greed can be an ass
More like a block of quartz for a heart
tbh he's probably not even an architect, he's just a salty hater
As an architect and also a Minecraft builder, this is quite embarrassing. If someone recreated my projects into Minecraft I'd be glad and honored. Either way, great video man keep up the good work!
are you single
@@babydemolitionist gross
@@babydemolitionist no i am multiple
@@justanexpressionlessguy2167 ong a single celled organism
Just wondering, wasn't Minecraft recreation is structurally different due to its blocky format that it cannot infringe on existing copyright to be copied? It will eventually look different in detail.
Imagine being an architect, and genuinely believing your building design can be perfectly recreated with a pile of one meter cubes.
I aM aN aRkiTeChT aNd I aM gOiNg To MaKe A bUiLdiNg WiTh MeTeR tHiCk WaLlS aNd ALigNeD fACinG nOrTh So I cAn SuE yOu!
Edit: I guess it wouldn't be facing North, cause I watched the other video that explains their angles.
plot twist: his building was made out of perfect 1 metre cubes with jagged edges and purely 90 degree angles
@@doctorcreeps2169 😩🔥🤣😂
Why would they not like their creation being immortalized?
DO NOT STOP BUILDING THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Imagine the judge hopping on the server to see if they were telling the truth.
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Imagine doing the Jury Duty for this case
“I hereby sentence the defendant, Bl0ckBruh69, to 49 years of prison with no parole.”
I would love to see actual architectural plans derived from the minecraft buildings. Like, the walls are composed of segments of meter thick walls, no diagonals, strange materials like a meter cube of pink wool, etc.
Honestly 50/50 on this guy being a troll. I wouldn't be surprised at all if this guy was so self righteous he felt like he had the authority to sue on behalf of all architects everywhere
plus often it's easier for someone to pay a few thousand for a settlement even if the lawsuit is frivolous just to make it go away. Trolls and scammers know this, so they do things like this just to see what they can get. There are lawyers that make a living out of things like this.
I feel like he's serious. He has too much understanding of the law even if it's ultimately a misinformed understanding, for me to think this is just trolling. This guy's really went digging into copyright laws and thinks he's found a loophole to make some quick money. Hopefully he hires a competent lawyer who can talk him out of it
@@noremac7216 his understanding of law is pretty average, he brought up one code and document. Not that crazy.
@@PermadeathHD yeah but he actually read it. I'm not saying the guy has any experience or aptitude for law, just that he had an impressive layman's understanding for someone who wasn't serious. He could definitely be a troll and even if he's not that doesn't mean that if he gets pushed he'll actually be willing to push back. It just seems like too much effort for trolling, but some trolls are weird like that I guess
@@noremac7216 he started his message with y'all
Let's not forget that a video game depicted the Notre Dame cathedral to such an intricate level that its model was used in restoring the cathedral after the fire.
Was it Assassins Creed Unity?
@@patheticbread6861 I think so!!
Bad comparison. Notre Dame is located in France so U. S. law doesn't matter at all. And even if there was a similar law in France, Notre Dame was built a little before 1900.
@@Max..Q It doesn't apply in terms of the law, yes, I was only presenting this example to show that models of existing architecture can be used for beneficial purposes.
@@AdamOwens135 Well, true enough. But he somehow implied it by comparing the two cases in this context. I don't want to offend anybody, but not long ago I followed a discussion in which many US Americans couldn't believe that US law doesn't apply all over the world. I just wanted to mention it.
as a real civil engineer once said: "it had to be the architects"
Hey! Another RCE Veiwer! Of Course It Had To be The architects!
Hey! I was wondering when I would find a RCE comment what an architect move on his part
Rce will sue the architects
@@deer563 Actually he will put them on an island, on a mountain, surrounded by sewage and hysterically laugh while they consume their own excrement and there oddly shaped buildings burn. He may even turn it into a tourist attraction and exploit it for electricity.
@@Orion_Byrd lol true
The guy suing is the physical embodiment of a Redditor
I'm so glad Redditors don't have a physical form.
@@alu2901 same because society would be crumbling if they did….. oh wait…
architechs are the only reaso nwe have building in our society, keep on talking shit lil 🤡
As an artist, I immediately knew that that lawsuit wasn't gonna fly coz of "Artistc depiction" in copyright laws since any and all benign depictions of public objects (including buildings) is basically a free space for artists and no amount of lawyering artistic rights since it is included in the law of Freedom of Speech
Everything you just said is 100% bullshit otherwise people could just claim they're being artistic and steal others ideas
@@reptiles3244 you're allowed to paint a scene with buildings in it without crediting every architect involved in making those buildings
@@reptiles3244 no he’s correct, any art that is unsigned or undesignated is just as free game as walking into a public space and sketching the first building you see. Artistic expression is protected by free speech laws, however copyright is a subset of laws that protect the creative properties of said thing. For example I legally cannot read a book aloud and sell it online for other people to listen to, but I can read the book aloud on my own regardless of the fact it’s copyrighted
As long as its transformative yes. This is that transformative.
@@SudZistheOne
Did they sue every photographer that has ever taken a photograph of those buildings. If not, then fair use in art means that they don't have a legal leg to stand on in court.
I mean, it is illegal to take pictures of the eiffel tower (at night because of the lighting)
@F u Susan I don't mean lights that people made as a recreation, I mean the actual lights
@F u Susan I'm sure those companies do pay whoever has the copyright in order to put it in shows and movies
@@imEden0 No, its not.
@@imEden0 Only commercial use of a photo taken of it must be licensed with the creator. Non-commercial, totally fine.
We must now visit every building this architect designed, create a 3D model of their internals and externals and then put them for free to download on the internet
Based
@@CSWELL1886 "NOOOOO YOU ARE VIOLATING COPYRIGHT ON THESE BUILDINGS"
"Shut."
Here's the kicker, you probably already have. All 0/0 of them. The dude's probably just a troll.
All for it
It’s probably some shitty glass cube
It's refreshing to see how you methodically handled the troll with evidence, maturity and factual justification, all while keeping it entertaining to watch. Great video!
This is what I imagine mr krabs doing if he cared enough about the law to know how to sue
LOL
LMAO
Mr.Crab would absolutely throw false DMCA Takedown
I like how in character that would be
Architects are Evil.
RCE has always been right!
If I was rich enough, I would buy every building that did this to you and give you permission to build it. Unfortunately, because of covid, my human trafficking business really fell off quick and I'm not as baller as first promised.
*ungodly banging* FBI OPEN UP
That shit went from 1 to 1,000 real fucking quick
@@Psi-9_AbyssGazers Mf go out and stop him!
*That escalated quickly*
Hold up
"Well, you see judge, they built what looks like a low resolution Lego version of the building I own in a video game. Therefore they owe me."
Good luck with that one...
Yeah doesn’t even need a video. It would get thrown out before even going to the courtroom. It’s a troll
not even lego, legos has the bits that stick out. blocks are flat
All Mr. “Strange” had to do was “Hey, I designed this building, I love what you guys are doing, could you put my name in a sign?”
Usually, if somebody says "See you in court" they're not serious. It's weird how far people will go to blackmail people trying to have fun.
@a did you notice the word "usually"?
@@umbratilicious15 did you notice that theyre joking?
@a Also Derek Savage & the alien in my basement.
I'll see you in court. bring a few tubes of tennis balls, please?
ayy another enby
If this guy ever does proceed to court, please use the sand castle analogy seriously. Ask the court if a child who makes a representation of a real castle out of sand is liable for damages.
Some buildings looks like children sand castles so do architects owe that kid money? Lol
@@Solisium-Channel absolutely
@@grapedude421 Breaking News:Child sues architect for building his sand castle as a real building and wins millions
I hope he does take it to court. Watch judge throw the case out
better yet don't talk at all and let the lawyer handle it
I can imagine a 3 year old placing 4 blocks of stone next to each other then this guy bursts into their room and sues them
This has way too little likes
🤣🤣
Goo goo Gaa gaa (as a 3 year old this exactly happened to me, he attacked me with a plastic hammer and is now wanted in 5 states.. I'm currently in the [bed] hospital and I don't think I'll make it xd)
correction: bursts into tears
literally lol'd, have a like
Sorry, but Minecraft is a pegi 7, I'm sending the authorities around of you think it is acceptable for a 3 year old
He’s going to be telling this story to his grandkids.
“Did I ever tell you kids about how I was sued by actual architects over a block game?”
"Yes your honor, I'm suing this individual for creating my building in minecraft"
Judge: "case dismissed"
Hope he needed to pay back the cost of all this shit
10000000time
* INSERT SHOCKED PIKACHU FACE HERE*
@@RenGraes :O
A more experienced Judge will take 20 minutes to sip his morning coffee and ramble about how his grandkids love minecraft before dismissing the case.
sueing for something he has no affiliation with lol
As an actual law student, I can say that this video would be really useful in your defense, if there were such a real case of copyright architecture infringement.
Lawyer walks up to television for opening statement, hits play. Case dismissed.
@@Grand_Works Your Honour, i would like to pull up RUclips on the screen
@@fkez0510 in the defamation cases against alex jones, lawyers have used excerpts from videos posted on his website as acceptable evidence. Its not at all far-fetched
@@callsignapollo_ never said it was far-fetched
I just made a joke
@@callsignapollo_ Yeah but it sounds silly
I remember when Abe said "no more shall the lowly architect have to worry, from this day on criminals will be punished to the full extent of the law for the heinous act of recreating buildings in minecraft", what a powerful quote.
Such a powerful quote it literally made me rethink all my life choices, get a job that pays 200k salary and become a part of a happy family with 4 kids
The sneaky, disgusting, predatory, evil, horrid, horrible, disturbing and mindblowingly fucked up act of
building houses in minecraft
@@SolarNawr Why stop at 4?
@@grandminingmachine3930 LOL
Four score and twenty years ago
I swear in 50 years you won't be able to look at something because storing it in your memory is considered copyright
I study architecture and play a lot of minecraft, the only time you can't represent a building without the autor approving it is in real life as a public infrastructure, some architect even copied other architect work as their house without ever getting in any trouble
studying archi while playing minecraft?
thats cool!
You are wrong. They do get in a lot of trouble if the architect whose work is stolen goes after them. Most architects don't have the money to do this so people are getting away with something, not doing something that is within the law. Just because you don't get in trouble doesn't mean it isn't wrong.
@@bobg.3206 who is wrong?
@@bobg.3206 exactly
This gets even funnier when you realise searching for laws in cases like this is what you do in introduction to law class at university. So a "lawyer" in his first year of law school would put this guy under in like 5 minutes if you give him time to look for the pages in his law book
you dont need to be in law school to see this guy is an idiot or to find the necessary laws, just some looks at laws around virtual worlds, copywrite and architecture and hes done
honestly this could be a good case study
@@aerqophs1546 more like a study of "how stupid human can be when he doesn't have anything literally anything better to do, including sleep."
That's not the goal. The suit, if not dismissed as entirely frivolous, would still cost both parties money, which means the poorer person/s lose by default.
@@acceptablecasualty5319 Ah, the beauty of the US justice system.
Imagine crying to a judge that people are building in a block game.
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Any sane and logical lawyer should know how absurd that was for suing, I can understand if it comes to military installations but other than that.....
@Sunny i think the judge would order him to get a psych evaluation
@@maclura the judge doesn’t understand what video games are, so he can’t judge it
@@Kazim28 just because you don't understand something doesn't mean you can't judge it
"Wah wah I'm an architect I drew a building and nobody knows my name wah wah"
He didn't want to tell you which building was his because BTE probably managed to build it better than him 😂
LMAO OMG
"trust me, im an engineer!"
-this guy, when explaining his blueprints
@@bright218 So his source actually was "Trust me bro" 💀💀
@@destiny6080 not really, he did have a source. He just interpreted it in a wrong way
Sorry for being a shitter, but architects doesn't build the buildings.
"I'm sorry but this concern is outside the scope of technical support. Please have your attorney send a notarized Cease and Desist letter to the PO Box of our legal department (or the owner of the project / whoever owns or rents the server). Please also bear in mind that impersonation or counterfeiting of official legal correspondence is in and of itself a crime. This conversation is over. Thank you and have a nice day."
gg
GIGACHAD
This is why i bullied some of my friends into becoming lawyers
Ratio
@@TrueMechTech L
The guy could surely only sue for the buildings which he designed, and considering I don't believe that he's an architect at all, that's none of them
True
Probably a low grade lawyer down on his luck wanting to make a name for himself and pay his student loans.
Maybe class action but idk
Also who the hell would use “hey y’all” in a letter intending to sue? Sounds way to casual for a so called “professional”.
@@KhanMann66 yeah that's what I was thinking. If you were actually about to sue somebody or tell them you were gonna sue them you sure as hell aren't gonna be using hey yall as your opening line
Let's not forget that the PDF he sent also says that it only applies to TANGIBLE things. Since nobody can physically touch the buildings in Minecraft (only a digital character controlled by the player can) architectural copyright laws cannot even apply to digital media such as video games.
A Minecraft world qualifies as tangible. Same as someone designing a building in design software. "Tangible" means it exists outside your head, you can't own the copyright to a building design that you imagined but never wrote down somewhere.
@@tylerpeterson4726 That's a rather broad view of it though. There is precedent against it. In filmmaking, establishing shots need no permission to film anything so long as they're filming from a public place. One could film the outside of the building without permission. The same could apply here. It could be reasonably argued that they are just recreating filmed or photographed material on another medium, with THE GAME'S CAMERA.
ok so the architect is willing to sue you for building structures from the real world out of pixelated blocks? man, this society gets dumber every day....
Edit: Thanks for the likes!
Each day we stray further from logic and reason
I am surprised he hasn't sued the 3d landscape version of Google map.
@@Elmithian The architect knows they can't win against Google, but they do know that they can bully a RUclipsr.
Idiocracy
Just like that one dude who got arrested for making a Pug into a Nazi as a joke.
if they take this to court, the countersuit is gonna fund you guys for years
Considering the fact that there are numerous architects, architecture students and people looking to become architecture students (including myself), who found out their love for architectural satisfaction by building in Minecraft through all that their creative minds could think of, without hitting paywall after paywall and be faced with the prospect of building entire workstations, I'd say a lot of architects these days would be honored to find their own designs replicated in Minecraft, where they, themselves, started. I certainly would.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
im in school to become a architect, got another solid 4 more years, were chilling, ill figure it out. but seriously, minecraft is still huge with architecture. look at all the programs we use to design and build the floor plans and buildings themselves, minecraft is actually huge just being able to brain storm, see your idea in person, how lighting, basic thing interact with a minecraft build, can easily cross over into building real structures if that makes sense. rant over
@@skinnycol809not really. Boards don't float in real life.
Absolutely! As an architect myself, I totally agree with you. I would love if someone actually built in a game, wheater is Minecraft or even The Sims, one of my projects.
@@lucasschultz you're not trying hard enough
I always hated copyright and I will not abide by it as long as there is breath in my body
Let’s not forget the “Humanly habitable” part (5:20). Humans cannot live in what amounts to a bunch of empty facades inside a video game, as impressive as those facades are.
😂Lmaooo true
Nah, that part of the document is saying that the copyrighted building has to be habitable, not the recreation.
Neither are the Minecraft buildings meant to last indefinitely, as any destruction of the files or the game system they sit on can and at some point, will be destroyed.
humanly habitable refers to the actual architectural work being copyrighted, not the "copies"
@@anticlickbait It's to determine whether the architect actually has a copyright that can be infringed - not the extent to which it has been infringed upon
One of the few examples where "We have investigated ourselves and found that we are not guilty" happens to be entirely accurate.
Good message, horrifically bad video editing. Protip: Making a RUclips video where you highlight every solitary word you're saying with a clip from a movie or stock footage doesn't make an interesting video. It makes it obnoxious.
guilty until proven innocent I guess
@@VesperAegis horrifically bad comment.
@@callumkristofer7793 The detailed and carefully crafted counterargument here fits exactly in the mold of throwing stock footage at everything you need filler for. Boring, unoriginal, trite.
@@VesperAegis The detailed and carefully crafted counterargument here fits exactly in the mold of throwing stock footage at everything you need filler for. Boring, unoriginal, trite.
Pippen: *builds the entire Earth on Minecraft, a process that can take many years*
Some bored architect: And I took that personally
bro sued a Minecraft server for some buildings he probably didn’t fucking design.
I like to think that this is an "architect" that makes nothing but those hideous grey squares of concrete and consider every single one of them a masterpiece
You know, the ones that look like *every single Minecraft beginner home* But IRL
Fun fact, those are called "5-over-1"s.
@@Grand_Works how come?
Brutalist architecture. As an art student. I hate that architectural style.
@@Grand_Works thanks for making my day worse. i now have a name to describe the ugliest buildings in my city.
I never knew it was a choice. I never really thought about it at all really
If someone actually sues you over one specific building, remove the building and replace it with a giant block looking like a pixelated building and make it clear with a sign who made you do this (with name, and company, and anything).
Or replace it with something obscene or horrendously ugly and let people think that's how it looks IRL
Just mess up the building itself and fucking clown over it
Better yet, take a picture of it and make block art of the picture where the original was 🤣
"Are you sure the real building looks like a giant dick?"
"Yes that's who suing us, alright"
@@feffy380 gigantic concrete willy
Um... Your defense is simple...
Does your building have round or curved surfaces? Guess what Minecraft DOESN'T have... Round edges. Therefore any structure contained in Minecraft is squared off and is subject to artistic representation protection by law.
Well, you're right.
And the buildings... Idk if they are "tangible" or not. I mean, a computer is tangible, but a building in a video game isn't exactly tangible. You can see it, but that's it. You can't touch it with your own body, sniff it, or even attempt to take a bite out of it. Because it's just a bunch of pixels at the end of the day.
Your brain is too large
Than not how the law works. You can't just take a Pixar movie convert all the pixels into colored dots and say that it's fine because there are to straight edges. It'd simply be a derivative work.
@a Then what about making a 144p version as that will make everything blocky. It'd still be a derivative work even though you are losing out on a lot of details.
The amount of sheer enlightened thinking in the first minute of the video give me hope for humanity.
It would be funny if that architect still tried. That case would be yeeted faster than an empty soda can.
>Judge be like pick up that can
@@Niknokinater >now put it in the trash can
@@Niknokinater lol
@@ruler_of_everything >grabs the gravity gun and throws the guard into the trash bin
I would have said, "Ok.. have your lawyers send over the papers then." and seen how far the troll went.
They’re not though, the guy claiming to be architect and is suing them is an idiot that no judge or lawyer in any court is going to look at this case and say “yeah this is totally not a gigantic waste of my time.”
@@littleaqua32 I didn't know judges and lawyers used words like "gigantic".
@@burningmagyk4986 "This is a profuse misuse of the judicial system."
There ya' go
@@burningmagyk4986 How about “gargantuan” is that better?
I'm imagining a judge taking one look at this case, looking at the people trying to sue you for playing a video game that is essentially a block stacking simulator, and saying, "Are you f*cking serious?" and then literally throwing them out of the courtroom.
dude, i don't think this would even get to court. it'd be dismissed with prejudice immediately.
I bet 100$ for that Judge he will laugh out if this one
@@VimyGlide sorry to break your dream world but it happened a lots of times and judge must remain impartial and neutral.
Sorry kid it doesn't work like that
@@capybara9521 sounds like something an architect would say
7:08 > The material...
The material does literally not exist. It's just a fancy array of digits symbolizing a string that represents a block with a texture. What are you gonna copyright? A word? A number sequence?
Jesus! How much free time does this guy have to be so pissed that someone is recreating the earth in a children's video game to sue!
It’s not a children’s game >:(
@@moonwalkehh it is, but yeah, videogames are for everyone
Yo 🔥ruclips.net/video/rdJ9bsN7JAw/видео.html
@@fontainebreaks Yeah, that's the good thing. Even if a video game is created towards kids in mind, adults can enjoy them too, as long as it's fun. Although, if a video game is created for adults, I don't think kids should play them. So I guess it depends.
Video games are for everyone, not just for children.
If anything, this just proves you guys did an incredible job replicating the real life building 😂
edit: k this comment thread is cursed
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@@OMNI-Infinity it means “on god”
"We're being sued."
*Still includes the World Download in the description like an absolute Chad.*
Does this world download include the buildings their done?
At the start of this video I thought "wait a minute, surely you can't copyright something a tourist could take a picture of, its gotta be be the plans themselves that are what's protected" I am glad I was close enough to the answer.
I view this as an achievement, your build is so cool irl architects are mad you doing a better job than them
@@TheFrenchmanCooks L
@@TheFrenchmanCooks r/wooooooooosh
@@TheFrenchmanCooks my guy, he's building the world. No need to be so accurate
@@TheFrenchmanCooks and also it's inaccurate*
@@TheFrenchmanCooks They said “your buildings are so cool”, not “your buildings are so accurate”.
Assuming this was even a legit threat, they didn't mention what THEIR building was to ask for it to be removed and I'm pretty sure that you can't, idk, sue for copyright over other people's copyrighted material to try to gain a profit for yourself lol.
yea they just said "the buildings" which means they are claiming copywrite for all buildings in the USA built after december 1st 1990 which he cant do so court would probably throw the case out
but if this even IS an actual case and not just a troll, they would probably specify which buildings they have a copywrite to and court would just say to remove the buildings and stop wasting court time
Clickbait fantasy video.
Failure to state a claim, motion for summary judgement in favor of the defendant granted
Tell that to Thomas Edison.
If for some reason, building a similar looking structure in minecraft for archival reasons *wasn’t* fair use, I suggest you guys paste a massive p***s at the location of every building you are told not to build.
Subtly make them look stupid and poorly designed, like entrances on the third floor.
place a handful of the suspicious red and white cross flags for good measures
And ASCII art a middle finger to him
@@medicgamingreal7212 Ah yes, the health and safety swastic sign
@@abelq8008 LMAOO
If the architect can sue over this, then every single picture, drawing or any media with that building in it should not be allowed. This is stupid.
"noooo! You can't build this in a funny little block game!!!!!!"
"haha world recreation community project go brrrrr"
imagine living such a sad pitiful and empty life that you need to sue people over a pixelated block game
Big assumptions, just because someone is acting like a douche doesn't mean they're sad
@@capybara9521 Why tf are you defending this person in multiple comment threads?
Are you the one that sued?
No matter how you look at it, its literally the dumbest shit in the world
@@capybara9521 oh god you've been defending this guy on almost every comment. Is it you? OH MY GOD IT'S THE GUY SUING
@@iamduck4750 he's looking for attention maybe....
@@iamduck4750 he has 49 comments so far defending the guy I really think it’s the dude suing 😭
The thing is, Trying to sue a large company like Google is basically impossible, because of their available funding.
And also the fact that google maps is also protected under the law by the same laws this is
Imagine copyrighting aliens LMAOOOO
so what's the point of the law if money is what dictates the results modern sl*ve
yep, they don't even have to try to win in the slightest, they could just drag the case out so long, you go bankrupt and lose by default lol
*proceeds to build a real building that can be built 1:1 in minecraft so it cant be rebuilt in minecraft*
This man work is impressive.
Why would they do something like that?
Bruh
As the genius investor MR.KRABS once said: "I like Money."
They want money and it feeds their superiority complex
this feels like three different comments crammed into one
@@triangulator01 probably edited the comment after actually watching it lul
@@triangulator01 it does
So, placing ingame-blocks in the right order in a virtual Block Game can get you sued?
lmao thats funny
north korea
if you share it on social media, if you're popular of course.
So if you're doing that just don't share it until you're done, that should fix the problem.
I don't see any reason why this would be illegal, to be honest
@@zvt9 yeah but what the fuck is North Korea gonna do if I build their whole country? I live in the USA, so TRY and come get me, Kim Jong Un.
No one should be able to sue for recreating a building in a game.
It's literally a non-issue.
Tell me you don't know the laws without telling me
@@capybara9521
Is there such a thing as a reverse is-aught fallacy, where you try to argue against someone saying how they think something should be done by stating how it's actually done? Because if there is, you just committed it.
@@capybara9521 Exactly you, right?
@@capybara9521 I know the laws, they're still bs
@@capybara9521 what a lovely little doormat you are.
Having one of your buildings immortalised in minecraft would be one of crown acheivements if I was an architect. Not only would my mark on the world exist in the form of a building existing out there in the wild, but that very existence is further acknowledged by its existence in a computerised depiction if the world further hammering home that point that something of me will be left behind when I die. How can they not be flattered. I dunno
The downside of being able to sue anyone for something as easy as getting hurt in their home while trying to kidnap someone, summs up: the American law system needs to be changed
thats not exactly how it works, there's different court systems for different types of lawsuits, and on the other hand, that's democracy for you. You can sue anyone you want with a reason, it works the same way in many other countries.
@@Z_RE0 If i sue someone in germany because they put cookies infront of my home and ran away, in no single case i would won that trial lol
Suing people is part of murican culture. Nowhere else on earth do you hear people going
‘Newsflash bucko! I will SUE YOU! Yeaaaah sir, that’s right pal, I will SUE the HECK outta you!’
You’re the only mfs who call each other ‘sir’ when fighting 🤣🤣
The only sue we have in Europe is
SIIUUUUUUUUU ⚽️
@@xihacks7001 lol, in Germany you can go to prison for insulting someone, also there's a thing called trespassing. Now, nowhere did I mention you can win the lawsuit, I simply stated that you can sue anyone with a reason in a lot of countries not just the US.
@@xihacks7001 who said win? But you can still file the lawsuit
Gamers be like: "Oh no, we are being sued!"
"Anyways, we continue building."
Edit: Damn, 2k likes.
comment would get more likes without the 'be like'
Until the lawsuit becomes more than just a notice, yeh.
Simply built different
The copyright isn't viable anyways because get this, most blocks in Minecraft are 1 meter cubed and most buildings have something that cannot be recreated with this essentially gridlock system therefore Vanilla Minecraft is excluded from all laws about irl copyrights.
To be honest, it would be IMPOSSIBLE to take this down. People could just download it for themselves, they cant just sue hundreds of people one by one! That would take YEARS!!!!
“If we somehow found a way to make these buildings look like perfect replicas in Minecraft”
Chisels & bits would like to introduce itself
@Xscreade are you sure 100x it will be millions of time more difficult
@Xscreade I have played on a modded mmorpg server that utilize chisel and bits for a lot of builds, honestly it isn't that laggy even on my somewhat lower end PC
@@Kyee124 yea but the issue is.50x more time to finish it
yup, also alot more data for each block, not really time worthy unless 500 years later we can store much more data and create bots that mimic every inch in the real world then maybe yes
@@Kyee124 Yeah, but the server is more open right? These guys are trying to build bustling cities with buildings only a few blocks from each other.
Y'all know there are dozens of Minecraft Disney Parks recreation servers that use actual copyrighted imagery and audio but are protected because it's in Minecraft. My lawyers will not be in contact...
If this guy is an architect and is seriously threatening to sue. Then he's a fucking goon.
DO NOT STOP BUILDING THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He's still making more money than you
@@capybara9521 and in this we see the inequality of the monetary system being utilized to intimidate, berate, and control the working class
@@capybara9521 Get a therapist please.
@@capybara9521 not for long probably. this sort of thing is career suicide imo
I’m an architect and I think that projects like this are exciting and should be celebrated and that my fellow colleagues share this view. Hope that assh0le was not one of us 😆
Right?! I'm like why do people become architects if not to create a new part of the skyline?! Lol
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@@bwhaz da hell
@@bwhaztranslation: they need to pay for electricity to keep their non-existent “girlfriend” “alive”
@@bwhazcringe
"All credits must go to every single human being on this Earth"
Nope
Not Minecraft kids that never stepped outside their home
@@Dad-lu1oi Triggered much?
@Dad Where's the milk and cigarettes you were gonna buy? It took you twenty-three years to get them? Where did you buy, Alaska?
@@KawaiiEvoMii How am I triggered it’s a factual statement
Don't try to sue a gamer. They are some of the most spiteful creatures on the planet and have far to much free time on their hands.
I'm someone who works in an architectural firm, I can safely say He's not representing any of us, and the shame will be on him alone
I mean, it wouldn't even go through, would it? He doesn't own all those buildings, and while I'm no expert on the law, far from it, I do know that copyright kinda requires you to own the right to it
@@riskyworks But apparently that doesn't stop people from suing movie pirates despite of not owing any rights to it.
Here's what i learned about this video:
*google maps is in big trouble*
yea i was wondering why they haven't been sued yet
@mcbuttmaster42 yea true that
If only he would actually attempt to sue you, then when he inevitably loses you countersue for "damages" and legal fees 😉
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depends where the case is filed iirc
he couldn't even sue in this case because he has no standing (basically, hasn't been directly victimized). It would have to be a class-action lawsuit
This was not about a lawsuit. This was about a quick cash settlement.
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Imagine you build the entire earth and of the 8 billion people on it *1 guy* starts complaining, and you're that guy, I couldn't even fathom such embarrassing behaviour
Looks like you better call Saul! But seriously, I hope everything goes well and no suing is made
Suing would be a good thing as the "architect" has no legs to stand on so they can sue for harassments and make some more money
Their argument makes swiss cheese look like concrete, i don’t think the project has anything to worry about.
The buildings in minecraft are not even buildings… it’s just code.
Hi architect in training here, please continue building more into minecraft. This project alone serves as a way to preserve lost architecture should in an event of a natural/man made disaster occur.
After the burn of Nôtre Dames everyone was thinking we lost hundreds of history, thanks to Assassin's Creed based in France we can rebuild the cathedral. Now, imagine a person (probably from USA since they like sue everyone for everything that in a civilized nation don't bother to do) that define himself as an """architect""" sue because they used a building protected by UNESCO. The audacity to do is frightening sometimes
Satellite 3d imaging could be placed into archives and i do believe that previous google earth images have been archived already, not that im against the minecraft thing, but most of whats in the minecraft thing is already placed in some form of online archive (unless google just deleats it) i have no clue if any other agency's do this
@ 2:35 Never thought I’d see a reference to The Lost Room, an extremely obscure sci fi miniseries that also happens to be one of my all time favorites. (It's available for free on RUclips FYI)
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I hadn't even heard about your project or the channel but this was a thoroughly entertaining exploration of silly legal threats.
you don't know much about laws do you lol
lots of people are are "experts" who have never went to a single day of law school but they say oh this is just silly legal threats...ones that the courts have protected for years with these laws...lemme guess, 7 years old?
@@ravinraven6913 What a ton of entitlement. Get a life, dude
man why did earth have to be copyrighted
it’s literally our home where you can do basically whatever you want
@@furtywelsh3482 why have many law when few law do trick?
@@TheDidgerideuces why sentence if word
@@adventurefighter7501 why
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Copyright, trademark, and patent law is less about “Is this legal?” as it is “Does the owner care”? In fact, that’s the whole reason that governments protect this stuff in the first place. If the owner doesn’t care, there are no copyright police that are going to throw somebody in jail.
In this particular case, why would anyone care? Even if these publicly visible buildings had some sort of protection, why would the owners bother enforcing it? Nobody was making money off of this project. Even the RUclipsrs talking about it have got to be covered by Fair Use.
I’m sure he does get advertising dollars. Why would you assume he doesn’t?
You know, I’m pretty sure you can’t sue on behalf of somebody else without their consent. Cause this guy is claiming he’s going to sue for all architects, but I doubt you can do that.
You’re right, but thats sort of the point of a class action
Well it is called a class action.
@@melody3741 Yup, but a class action requires you to have the signature from all participants.
He probably meant it metaphorically
@@melody3741 Well a class-action wouldn't happen anyways because any competent Judge should/would throw the lawsuit out before class-action could be established (you don't bring a class-action to the court, you bring multiple plantiffs and ask a judge to combine the cases into a class -action). The main reason is that none of the plantiffs have suffered ANY damages. Without damages or the potential of damages you can have no complaint in the eyes of the court. Plus I'm sure minecraft versions of the buildings would be fine under the "Fair Use" clause.
“waaaa waaaa they made a replica of the shitstain that engineers had to fix on job, waaa but i drew that with my crayons”
There's also an important part of the lawsuit missing: actual damage
Maybe you shouldn't judge if you don't have both side of the story
@@capybara9521 Who was hurt or will be hurt from this project, and be very clear here who does this claim apply to
@@capybara9521 both sides of what? One side is people trying to play a fuckin block game where you stack blocks on other blocks and the other side is someone trying to sue them for stacking block on other blocks in the FUCKING. BLOCK. GAME. The game literally has visible pixels. If these guys are getting sued then I guess anyone who's ever taken a photo of a building ever should be sued too 😂 like Jesus Christ what a clown
@@capybara9521 oh no somebody is building a building in minecraft im gonna lose so much money
@@capybara9521 we found the architect
"Dude I own this building. Do you really think you can get away with theft when you're showing what you stole from me directly to my face? My lawyers will make an easy job of this case. Prepare to say goodbye to your luscious life and start preparing for the streets. I will ruin you."
- The Architect Messiah.
You can own the building as much as you like. This argument is about the rights to the design of the building, not the building itself. Which will alway be unique because every different location will need different types of foundation due to the ground makeup and local area (e.g. historical buildings nearby that would be disturbed by building work). Therefore immediately, it's a different design.
"I sue you for replicating real life architecture."
"We can't replicate slope in Minecraft."
I can almost guarantee that this copyright law was put into place to prevent architects from stealing building designs from other architects. Example being an architect builds a building in NYC, another architect can’t take the design and make a complete copy of said building in LA. I don’t think the lawmakers in 1990 were writing this law intending to prevent people playing cube game from having fun.
I knew this guy wasn't an architect the moment he wrote "Y'all"
What fucking architect would contact a project through Discord with "Y'all" on a legal matter ?
Yeah an an actual architect would need to take a hit that nasty soy drink then go on a stupid tirade of how much of a better person he is than you for arbitrary and hypocritical reasons probably related to his I support the thing twitter bio. Then screech about lawsuits after being offended you didn't praise his black and indigenous arts and crafts project he calls a job.
Architects are apparently getting drunk more frequently because "Structural Engineers" are taking their jobs. lololol
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Yeah, he is probably a stupid kid troll.
A drunk southern architect with a stick in his ass
"It's always the fucking Architects"
-Real Civil Engineer, probably
*killed by the architects*
No, its the always the fucking contractors. And some engineers should stick to engineering. Both my parents were career LICENSENSED architects with each with 40+ years experience in design. Graphite and coffee smell permeated the home office (my parents also worked for firms as well), and the problems I always heard about was the crappy contractor, the engineer who thought he was a designer, or the client with big egos and large wallets demanding unrealistic changes and things. Oh and then there's the building department....so DON'T BLAME ARCHITECTS!!
@@CeceGames Read my comment.
@@somethingsomeonesaid6455 i have heard way more engineers complaining about unsustainable designs from architects than architects about engineers overstepping into their field
@@somethingsomeonesaid6455 jesus christ calm down it was a freaking Destiny joke
wouldn't this entire lawsuit be considered null and void because of fair use? this seems pretty damn transformative
Media change is not covered by transformative. Like from a book to a movie
@@jordanwardle11Fair Use is always an exception. The question is whether this qualifies as Fair Use. A simple media change is not a factor of Fair Use as the exact media can be used. The nature of use, the nature of original copyright work, the amount used, and the effect of use are all factors.
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Well then he can sue Google and the U.S Government for their Satellites and street view
Oh wait they can't because they don't have the balls
“As an artist” Ive done some half ass digging into this topic years ago. It’s complicated, and It depends on a few things, “is any money made from the copyrighted likeness in question” and “is it in the same medium as the copyrighted likeness in question”
This means if you take a drawing Winnie the Pooh, (well… before the 100 year rule was in place) and build a life size lego model of Winnie, then it’s perfectly legal. But, if you, say, built and exact copy of a lego winnie the pooh Disney made, and claimed it as your original, then yes, that could be illegal.
Another example, if you draw a picture of Captain Picard from Star Trek, you can do that, Paramount can’t stop you, BUT that’s also a likeness of Patrick Stewart, if you drew him doing something awful that he didn’t actually do, then he can sue you and win, but that’s not a copyright issue.