Not quit 18, Thia, Mandarin, Korean, and English. I'm sure he's picking up some German from Yang Yang. All together the guys of WayV speak 7 different languages.
It’s from hard work and dedication that got him this far and can’t forget how many languages he had to learn to be in this industry. It’s mind blowing really. I’m proud of him 😆
Some backround info: Xiaojun comes from a very musical family, his dad is also a performer and Xiaojun was accepted into one of the most prestigious music schools in China
@@hakasims didn't he got a solo dance in Black on Black, a whole song for himself in empathy and a whole duet plus a solo sm station? Idk what your getting at.
the fact what a mess he was before he joined SM and that after few months of training he was already introduced as a member of SM Rookies in the end of 2013 (he joined SM earlier that year). He and Taeyong are probably the quickest in evolution (except of Chenle in terms of dancing, with no dancing background he was ready to debut after like 3-4 months).
I totally agree with you, Xiaojun when he sings he brings so much emotions it’s crazy like he is in this zone that he blocks out everything else around him. I also agree that Ten’s voice is very smooth but he doesn’t have as much variety as Xiaojun. Btw great pronunciation of his name you nailed it. Thanks again for doing this group!
If he wouldn't have been my bias it would've probably been hendery since he's already my bias wrecker. Sometimes I have trouble choosing between the two but I always go back to Ten so I think he's my ultimate bias 😊
Agreed. His vocals are my favorite in wayv. Ten's voice sounds great in recording but he lacks stability in live vocals. Dejun sounds beautiful both ways.
idk.... I mean he is absolutely great but doyoungs vocals shouldn't be underestimated, he is one of the bests in sm and haechan is a quite strong candidate
That was super interesting, especially when you talked about Kun using too much breath because for me I always assumed he also put his voice far back like Xiaojun (btw your pronunciation was really good) but too far back so it got stuck that way, which is a shame because his tone is so nice. If he fixed that, Kun would be so much stronger as a vocalist. I also agree Winwin sounds like he hasn't been given much vocal training at all and I think it might be that SM focused more on him learning Korean (hence why he also has no lines in 127). To me Xiaojun's voice suits classical singing more and Ten's is a lot more modern. Ten tends to speak with quite a thin, nasal tone too so it's interesting how that translates into his singing. Your point about Chinese is right, I speak Chinese and the words are usually more far back in your mouth than English (and Korean) and I've noticed A LOT of Chinese idol singers have Xiaojun's habit of going too far back when singing - I watched a few Chinese survival shows and many male trainees sang really far back with that 'hooty' sound. So that was a really great observation!
I noticed that too about Kun's technique and based on the fact that lead vocalists are usually the 2nd bests after main and Ten was called main vocalist by YangYang during one of their insta lives I make an assumption that Kun can be lead vocalist in WayV once under some video. I was eaten up by fans -_- I totally agree they all amazing but usually there are some lead vocals in the group (even if later on they can be promoted to main like it seems to happen with Renjun)
I'm so glad that you talked about Xiaojun's emotion because when I first started stanning Wayv (less than a week ago), I noticed right away how well he conveys emotion while singing and I immediately was able to connect to him if that makes sense. I am not a very emotionally expressive person I guess and Xiaojun's singing almost helps me understand my own emotions if that makes any sense at all lol
"Even Winwin who I found lines for" this is so sad but so true.. He's literally been an idol for 4 years and the fact that even now it was hard to find material just shows how much he's been robbed by SM (I'm very sure that they also gave him wayy to little vocal lessons bc I believe that he really has more potential). But regardless, in really happy that you did the WayV ranking!!💚 They'll also be releasing their first full length album in a while and as soon as the current c-situation resolves, I hope that we will be getting some live performances! If that happens, you can just look at them and decide if you think that a reranking is needed or not. But I really like your current ranking and I completely agree with it! I'm also very happy that you put Ten in 2nd and even said that he can be considered 1st. Ten, for me, has such a beautiful and CLEAR voice and I absolutely love it!! Definitely one of my favourite singers (and dancers lol)!💚
Ten is actually quite good at rapping too but he rarely has an actual rap line, not rap-ish like in 7th sense. The closet to normal rap and the best I found is NCT's performance in the end of 2016 on SBS Gayo Daejun with cover for "Wolf&Sheep"
@@youdontneedtoknowmyname4266 for me his line from Jopping isn't that impressive in terms of rap skills. Better than The 7th Sense but that Wolf&Ship cover still win
Hendery really has a big ability to grow better and I hope he does, at first I thought he couldn't sing because he had no lines but after a while (dream plan + King of hearts..etc) I realized he has a big potential
One of the reasons why I stan WayV is because of their mix of languages. They are one of the most lingually diverse groups, and I am completely here for it. I know NCT127 has Mark, Jaehyun, Johnny, and Yuta as the foreign swaggers; however, the rest of the members don't speak English and Japanese as confidently. In WayV, each of the members can comfortably switch between Cantonese, Mandarin, English, and Korean in every sentence. In addition, WinWin speaks Wenzhounese, YangYang speaks German, and Ten speaks Thai. I speak 5 languages myself, and I have genuinely never related more to a vocal group's language problems. Thanks, Samuel for this ranking!!
I have to say that acknowledging the fact that there's not a lot of material so far but still doing the video and also mentioning that you'd be willing to do another video again if things change is really commendable. You listen to what your viewers say but you always try to be very just and fair, and I have to say that it's deeply appreciated and that's why people keep watching your videos. Keep it up, we're loving the content.
Ten and Xiaojun, my biases in wayv~~ I was super proud to see ten getting so many main singing parts and high notes, he's improved so much since his debut days. You're right, he really is phenomenal, a monster really, in how many skills he has. I wonder what he's going to pull out next! Xiaojun though, I love his thicker tenor voice and the emotion he puts into it. I think he could become one of SM's top singers. Infinite is a great group, I love their music! Looking forward to the next one!
WayV is so poorly promoted that we don't get to know their vocal potential nicely... Usually SM has the best vocalists, so even if they boys are not that good now, any time in future they will be great for sure (I'm not saying they are bad, I even don't know them nicely, but as SM idols, they always get better). And I would suggest you to take a look in UP10TION vocalists... I bet you'd have fun watching them ( :
@Pinkii Lights all the China line in SM is somehow underrated by the company... They should Lay take care of them. I'm pretty sure they would explode famous instantly.
@@letitgo9026 Have them work with Lay or Zhoumi. Kun and Xiao Jun have worked with Zhoumi before, SM released the song Zhoumi wrote for his hometown Wuhan featuring Kun and Xiao Jun. He would be a great mentor.
WayV still only 1.5 years group so just wait for it, they still have long journey. WayV vocalists still promoted way better than dreamies vocal lines outside Haechan tho
Not poorly promoted it's because covid-19. They just started extensive promotion in last 2019 and early 2020. They performed in newyear celebration in zhejiang TV. Covid-19 broke earlier in China than In other countries. I believe SM have so many projects for them before covid-19, because they main target is china not Korea or other country. For example Lucas has many scheduled in mycountry for promoting his commercial but cancelled due covid-19. At least during this covid-19 pandemic the boys can performed in many korean shows or online concert unlike other cpop groups.
yeaaa finally someone exposed xiaojun's voice 😭✊🏼 I've been thinking about how SM bravely sent him to a foreign group without really much exposing him before which means that SM, the agency of vocalists, has a reason for this and of course, that's because he has that phenomenal voice as well as the main vocals in other nct units. thankss a lot for this. by the way, it will be nice to see you ranking all nct main vocalists or just SM's main vocalists, I think you're gonna love ranking them, they're such good vocalistsss
for me XIAOJUN is so phenomenal, and i cannot wait to see how he grows as a vocalist. he has a lot of experience singing cantopop (cantonese pop) and it's quite obvious to me because cantopop is sung with tones (mandarin pop like wayv is sung without tones) which i think gives him so much vocal dexterity and emotion. cantopop is difficult because the sung tones have to be placed/pitched properly and it's difficult to project that onto melody, so cantonese singers tend to focus on emotion/delivery of lyrics and tempo to create style. so xiaojun's stylistic choices suggests to me that he *hears* more than others bc of his cantonese/cantopop background, which makes sense considering cantonese's 9 tones that need to be maintained when singing and mandarin's lack of tones. xiaojun's voice is really special for someone so young, he reminds me of the great HK/cantopop singers of the late90s/early2000s, and there aren't really any young impressive vocalists in hk/cantopop right now. his voice triggers something deeply nostalgic for me. he sounds so unique and his voice suggests that he has way more experience than his 20yrs. xiaojun's father is also an excellent singer and did extensive touring around china and asia, if i recall correctly, and was an extremely popular impersonator of the cantopop star anita mui. i'm really curious to hear more of his lower register bc i think it has a lot of potential! would also love to hear him do some runs.
I was about to sleep but I saw this 😂 You fanboying over Ten is a mood, it’s me when he does something amazing like when I found out he was crazy flexible and also an amazing artist, I need some of that talent pls & thank you EDIT: WayV are having a comeback!! 9th of June 😊
i completely agree with xiaojun being first! his voice is amazing. i was a bit surprised that you ranked ten above kun because i haven’t anyone do that until now, but i agree, ten is such an allrounder. i prefer kun’s vocal tone, but it’s really interesting to hear you analyze their singing. xiaojun is definitely one of my favorite vocalists! and when you said that xiaojuns voice is very emotional, i really agree that he does sound like he’s on the verge of tears lol.
SM right decision was to made Xiaojun main vocalist. I was quite suprised at XJ "i love the way you talking to me" part in Love Talk, his technique is no joke
Thank you for this! Interesting to see Ten at #2, I'd always assumed he'd be ranked below Kun, but your arguments made completely sense. I've noticed Ten can be a bit shakier in his vocals (I think their Beyond Live 'Face to Face' was a good example), but that feels more like a practice thing. I do love his vocals in 'Baby Don't Stop', beautiful tone there. So thank you again!
That's actually the video that convinced me that Ten was #2 too, cause even if he was pitchy, he had better breath support than Kun. But they all sounded kind of tired there, lol. Glad he found some other clips.
You pronounced Xiao Jun right! Also, I’m also not a dictation expert, but Mandarin does have this thing where you curl your tongue and can be used to do things such as the “sh” (and a bunch of other sounds that idk how to translate-ish to English). The thing that makes it different from the usual “sh” sound is that it does bring your voice a bit back down the throat, but with my experience with singing (plz don’t take my word for this since it’s just a hobby), the curl-your-tongue thing doesn’t rlly bring it back enough for it to become a habit/problem with singing. Pitch wise, it does kind of block(?) you from going lower and deeper, but that’s also why a lot of songs sung in Mandarin are pronounced “sloppily” (for lack of better terms). Yangyang comes from Taiwan, which surprisingly matters because Mandarin in Taiwan is spoken a bit differently. Mandarin in Taiwan doesn’t have the curling of the tongue (I mean they do, but not really... it’s complicated) which might be why Yangyang doesn’t really have a placement problem and is the main rapper (curling the tongue while rapping is an additional burden since rapping already involves a lot of syllables). With my experience with Mandarin, the tone of Mandarin is usually either high and nasally or kind of deeper and lower down the throat. If someone’s in the middle, it’s usually an accent from a foreigner or someone from a less-populated area in China (like Lucas and Ten - they speak kind of down the middle). Also, I know that Lucas is from Hong Kong but Hong Kong used to a British territory, so the Mandarin spoken there is usually different from “traditional” Mandarin that you would find in, for example, Beijing. In Mandarin, if you speak down the “middle,” you actually don’t get an authentic sound when you curl the tongue. It’s hard to hear if Mandarin isn’t your first language. Most people don’t care, though, because China is humongous and almost always has foreign businessmen or tourists. Mandarin is a very diction-driven language and curling the tongue is just one example. There are other diction rules and complications in Mandarin that make it VERY hard to master and sound authentic in (so Ten is already a genius by being able to learn it). There’s also the fact that Hendery, Lucas, and Xiao Jun (maybe Winwin and Yangyang too) speak Cantonese. I don’t speak Cantonese so I can’t say anything about it, but there are probably some wacky diction rules in there too. This is obviously not a scientific answer and I even don’t know if this is right, but this is my experience with Mandarin as someone who comes from and has lived in Taiwan, China, and a Hong Kong while also being fluent in English. Wow, sorry this was so long! (P.S. Ten is my bias too and thank you for the wonderful analysis to WayV! Love your videos! ❤️)
Wow, that was fascinating. Thank you SO much for that, it all makes alot of sense. I do want to learn more about language affects on tounge placement. So that was a fun read. Thank you!
i speak cantonese and i can attest the diction rules are extremely different from mandarin. one of the biggest differences is there is no "curling" of the tongue (no R sounds that frequent mandarin esp beijing accents) and it has more tones than mandarin (9, compared to the 4). What I've noticed being a native speaker is that a lot of the tones are either in the front of the mouth or back of the mouth, very few sounds have you opening your throat so it tends to sound nasally on most people. I know Lucas Xiaojun and Hendery are native canto speakers, Xiaojun probably has issues with this less because Guangdong while heavily populated with canto speakers is a part of the Chinese mainland so mandarin is much more widespread there, meanwhile mandarin influence in macau and hk (where lucas and hendery are from) is lesser. I noticed in the WayV dream launch web series that Hendery and Lucas sometimes trip up in their mandarin pronunciations too which could partially be attributed to the differences in canto and mando as well.
Hi to add on, while all the members speak mandarin, it is likely that they also grew up speaking their dialect which is probably different for every member. Just like how cantonese is different from mandarin, the difference between dialects can be as different as mandarin and korean are. I'm not familiar with the individual dialects but Wenzhounese (what winwin speaks) has a reputation for being the most indistinguishable/different language to mandarin. It's even nicknamed the devil's language for being super hard to learn. Anyway I've probably gone off topic but just a little tidbit
@@ineednotbe yeah also adding on to this, somewhere in one of the older vlives ten mentioned something along the lines of his chinese teacher telling him not to try and learn chinese off of winwin because winwin's chinese was so different haha and lucas joked before about "coming to korea to learn chinese" so he probably wasn't as good at mandarin when he first went to korea.
22:11 YES SIR!! "He can speak about 18/80 languages" Lmao Major Mood. And here i am, i know two languages and can't speak either of them properly. Ten is one of THE most talented person alive yet so underrated. Ten Main Dancer, Main Vocal material AND can also rap. Ten best boy. STAN TEN thank you!
I remember when they released the reveal videos for xiaojun, hendery and yangyang and I legit thought that xiaojun would be a rapper and the other two singers but then they debuted hahha
I always thought Xiaojun will become vocalist. This is kinda weird reason but his face somehow reminded me of Jonghyun a lot so I think he will become vocalist just like Jonghyun
YangYang has ambitions to get Ten's position (he mentioned it multiple times) so I'm very interested in where that is going Ps: he allso sings in a song called Asteroid by producer IMLAY so check that out if you haven't...
is it only me but xiaojun's voice kinda changes now, and it's even better. like when samuel said that he brings his voice far back, i think he rarely does that now.
YES, we all need to fangirl/boi about Ten. I mean he is seriously a genius. He can dance SOOO WELL, sing like a main vocalist, rap like a main rapper. Outside of his profession, he can also speak 4 languages (literally learned Chinese in less than two years), draw & design art, be extremely funny.... I am pretty sure even if he didn’t choose to become an idol he would still be able to do well in whatever job it is. Smartest guy in the INDUSTRY. PERIOD.
I finished watching and gotta say you've pinpointed exactly why I'm Xiao Jun biased (btw you pronounced his name fine~) ^^ the amount of emotion he puts into his singing is probably what hooked me.
When I first listened to WayV's Moonwalk(at that time I didn't know who they are) I was very surprised by XIAOJUN's voice and I said ''Wow, this guy's voice sounds different from other pop music voices ''...so I became a fan (for the 1st time a real fan of a pop group) Agree that talking about a good voice is not only about vocal timbre&range&technique and how strong that voice is but also about emotion. Art is about conveying emotion and ideas. XIAOJUN conveys emotions to us. I remember that after his dance video with Ten was released, Winwin was asked who would be the next person he would like to dance with and he said XIAOJUN because it'd be a very emotional dance
Thank you so much for completing the trilogy! Samuel is us winwin stans trying to cobble together all of the short clips of his singing we have heard to make a collage of his vocal palette: we are trying. The fact that the best clips we have of him singing live come from a variety show never ceases to make me angry (perhaps my villain origin story). Hendery is a wild card, whatever we expected from him as a rookie he turned around, honestly, I have no clue what he might do next. Your point about Chinese is really interesting (as someone who is learning Chinese), because it would make sense why ten, someone who has learned and spoken different languages with different tongue placements and vocal placements, but Xiaojun who didn't start learning languages until later might be more used to a farther back placement. Xiaojun's emotional singing is just him I think, but also because he has bit of a musical theatre background which might affect it. As far as Kun I agree with everything you said, but I never had the words for it before! Im totally rambling but this one was awesome thanks for this ranking! P.S.: sadly there are no live clips of it but YangYang's song with asteroid is by far my favorite time hearing him sing, also that song is just like, really really good for studying to.
WayV is by far my favorite group to come out of the NCT project, but I do feel like SM didn't really focus on giving voice training to the boys. I feel like it's a thing that happens with SM and their Chinese trainees tbh, because Luhan seemed quite untrained for a main vocalist back in the EXO-M days. But then they have Zhoumi, so idk really. Anyways I'm super excited for Infinite, they are my favorite boy group and they have the guy with my favorite tone (albeit having his technical flaws) in kpop: Mr. Nam Woohyun!
No they did, and it was taken into account. I just didn't put it in as there was no clips of him really singing it. But I was fully aware of the song 😊
It's just funny how everyone kept on downgrading Ten's vocals saying he can't sing when he keeps on improving himself every day. Deserves the main vocalist position, a true ace.
i already realize xiaojun voice are best since regular,and when take off his anglic voice really hit me already...i talk about this with my friend but they din't realise..thanks for having same thinking with me [even i'm not a vocalist]..
I am always saying that Winwin has so much potential, I can see him doing a lot with it if they would actually let him. He does interesting things with his vocal tone. Xiaojun to me is inarguably wayv's best vocalist. He knows how to use his voice, he's not just singing for the sake of singing.
xiaojun's name is pronounced like "see-ow zjewn" where the "zj" is pronounced halfway in between a z and a j. i'm not gonna get into detail about the shengdiao (accents) because they're really hard for foreigners to pronounce lmao but that's basically how you'd pronounce his name! anyway i completely agree with your ranking for the wayv members. i feel like winwin could do so much better if SM actually gave him opportunities to showcase what he can do, and if they gave him proper training.
Just want to point out that you should slur the see-ow so it's basically one syllable. Almost like how the "liar" part of "familiar" is spoken so quickly it sounds like familyar
I always hear smth like "Shiaojun" with "j" closer to... idk... french version of "j" in "Jean" maybe (idk how to explain, very basic explanation is that I hear smth close to Russian letter "Ж") and first sound I hear as smth in the middle between "s" and "sch"? At least when he says his name of other members say it
@@depressed_firefly sometimes when the members are just calling his name, or talking quickly, the letters kind of blend into each other and it can sound like more of a french j sound. but in my opinion (i speak chinese fluently :) i've always thought it is quite a hard j or soft z kind of sound. the whole 'jun' syllable is quite short and sharp, and sounds almost a bit like a quick 'juin', if that makes sense. also, to me, the syllable 'xiao' has always seemed to be more of an open mouthed sound, like the ar sound from star mixed with 'ow' from now. i wish i could include an audio clip or something, but it's like how when you say 'meow' it's like 'mee-au' but with xiao its like 'shee-ao'. sorry, that was a really bad explanation lol, but i hope that made at least a little sense.
Anna K well i was just explaining how to speak it technically, as i'm chinese and that is just how to pronounce the characters that form his name! sometimes the members tend to use a foreign accent to address xiaojun's name, and xiaojun himself has said (in a recent live, actually) that you can pronounce it like shiaojun if you can't pronounce it the mandarin way. technically the character "xiao" is not meant to have a "sh" sound. the j in "jun" being pronounced like a french j is also a foreign tendency; it's not meant to be soft like that. i'm not sure what the russian letter sounds like though.
agree i personally prefer kun's tone and control. ten sounds too thin and airy for my liking. sometimes ten sounds like he has the potential to crack or lose a note.
So excited!! I love your analysis, but yeah I'm sure it's hard for WayV, we don't know enough about some of their voices. Thank you for your hard work as always!!!
I think one of the problems for Lucas is that the songs of kpop in general tend to be higher in pitch, even for the men, also,bc way v has a lot of voices that do better in the higher range, their songs tend to favour that. If Lucas had a song dedicated to his baratone that would be amazing
SMent. do tend to favour a higher voice i think and maybe that’s why the members with lower tones tend to seem less trained as they’re pushed towards the rap route
you know that Moment in the song where it slows down and xiaojun comes in all dramatically?? (like the "can i be honest" part of takeoff, the prechorus of come back, etc.) those are literally the most satisfying parts ever his voice is soooo good in those parts
wow I'm actually super impressed at how thorough you were in finding singing clips, I assumed you'd only build an opinion on their main discography but thankfully I was wrong! They're actually about to release their first full album on June 9th with 10 new songs, so hopefully we'll get to hear new sides to their voices^^ I'd been waiting forever for a vocal analysis on WayV so thank you for making this video~
Another interesting thing to share is WayV wasn't able to debut because they don't have a strong main vocalist until SM casted Xiaojun. They are so impressed with such an all-rounder ace and even featured him heavily for his vocal and dance in NCT's most successful song "Make a Wish".
You are so right about Xiaojun! His emotions is great for singing Chinese and Korean ballads. However, he hits different when he sings English songs. He sounds quite Bruno Marish with his R&B style of singing with his riffs and runs, especially in "Nectar". For WayV vocalists like Kun and Ten, they sound good when singing in a certain range of their upper vocal register but very flat when singing in deeper notes because of their thinner/airy voice but for Xiaojun, he sounds great in both lower and upper vocal registers which really shows his versatility as a singer and his high notes are extremely solid. Most importantly, his MR removed performances is the most stable (along with Taeil) among all NCT members.
Xiaojun Renjun
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20 year old vocal powerhouses that will take over the industry some day
i agree, i agree, i STRONGLY agree
Imagine them singing a duet
Period
That someday is when they released my everything
samuel promoting wayv better than sm
we're getting a full album on june 9th though!! It's called awaken the world
@@moonlace1560 THAT'S MY BIRTHDAY, YAY!
@@sambradley8297 ahhh happy birthday to be!
@@sambradley8297 That's my birthday too😂😂
@@sambradley8297 Omg, no way that's my birthday too!
I cackled at “he speaks like eiGHtEEN laNguAgEs” ngl
What does he?
Not quit 18, Thia, Mandarin, Korean, and English. I'm sure he's picking up some German from Yang Yang. All together the guys of WayV speak 7 different languages.
@@ajamzmom4882 it's a joke/sarcasm. You don't have to take it so seriously tho lol
@@ajamzmom4882 he actually speak lil Japanese as well, he's learning Japanese rn
@@johnbananaisanicon6011 I was answering Shinisol's question, I know he was joking.
Crazy how Ten is one of the best dancers in the industry and yet has THIS GOOD of a singing voice.
he's a god
Ten works hard to attain that voice, so proud of him..
It’s from hard work and dedication that got him this far and can’t forget how many languages he had to learn to be in this industry. It’s mind blowing really. I’m proud of him 😆
such an ace
plus he can rap and speak all these languages, all while looking THAT gorgeous. truly exceptional in every way
Ten is literally one of the best all-rounders in kpop and SM really hit it big when they scouted him
ngl
Xiaojun gets ranked first
Me: pretends to be surprised 😱
"one doesn't have a great deal to look at, and that's winwin"
you don't say
odd fish This comment hits me right in the throat
GIVE THIS BOY SOME LINES!!
Some backround info: Xiaojun comes from a very musical family, his dad is also a performer and Xiaojun was accepted into one of the most prestigious music schools in China
Proud 💚
So proud of our King Ten. From 10 seconds in the 7th sense to a Mainvocal. Truly an Ace
and the fact that he was originally a dancer too
@@hakasims LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACKKKK
@@hakasims didn't he got a solo dance in Black on Black, a whole song for himself in empathy and a whole duet plus a solo sm station? Idk what your getting at.
@@spideymark7322 wow one brief dance solo that didn't even show what he was really capable of. that's definitely what he deserves.
the fact what a mess he was before he joined SM and that after few months of training he was already introduced as a member of SM Rookies in the end of 2013 (he joined SM earlier that year).
He and Taeyong are probably the quickest in evolution (except of Chenle in terms of dancing, with no dancing background he was ready to debut after like 3-4 months).
I totally agree with you, Xiaojun when he sings he brings so much emotions it’s crazy like he is in this zone that he blocks out everything else around him. I also agree that Ten’s voice is very smooth but he doesn’t have as much variety as Xiaojun. Btw great pronunciation of his name you nailed it. Thanks again for doing this group!
Even if Ten isn’t your bias, he’s still your bias
Facts!
And if he’s your bias, he has this bad habit of bias wrecking you anyway. 😂
If he wouldn't have been my bias it would've probably been hendery since he's already my bias wrecker. Sometimes I have trouble choosing between the two but I always go back to Ten so I think he's my ultimate bias 😊
Yes, it’s true
I don't stan nct but Ten is my fave, he's epic
My opinion is that Xiaojun has the second best voice in all of nct, second only to taeil
Facts
Agreed. His vocals are my favorite in wayv. Ten's voice sounds great in recording but he lacks stability in live vocals. Dejun sounds beautiful both ways.
idk.... I mean he is absolutely great but doyoungs vocals shouldn't be underestimated, he is one of the bests in sm and haechan is a quite strong candidate
Loving fullsun_MJ without a doubt Doyoung is right under Taeil for me
he comes after doyoung tbh and after xiaojun is heachan
In the future it would really love to see a ranking of all of NCT, but that's asking for too much
10k subscriber special??
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@@sambradley8297 OMG yes please!!
That would be a 5 hour video🥴
@@watermarklee7247 I'd probably go through it super fast as I've already gave comments on everyone.
I literally just adore xiaojun’s voice so much that part he has in comeback he just sounds so ethereal and otherworldly.
That was super interesting, especially when you talked about Kun using too much breath because for me I always assumed he also put his voice far back like Xiaojun (btw your pronunciation was really good) but too far back so it got stuck that way, which is a shame because his tone is so nice. If he fixed that, Kun would be so much stronger as a vocalist. I also agree Winwin sounds like he hasn't been given much vocal training at all and I think it might be that SM focused more on him learning Korean (hence why he also has no lines in 127). To me Xiaojun's voice suits classical singing more and Ten's is a lot more modern. Ten tends to speak with quite a thin, nasal tone too so it's interesting how that translates into his singing.
Your point about Chinese is right, I speak Chinese and the words are usually more far back in your mouth than English (and Korean) and I've noticed A LOT of Chinese idol singers have Xiaojun's habit of going too far back when singing - I watched a few Chinese survival shows and many male trainees sang really far back with that 'hooty' sound. So that was a really great observation!
Wow thank you for that information, it was super interesting. Very much appreciated. Thank you for the kind words!
Comments like these proves that most of Samuel’s inferences are accurate.
I noticed that too about Kun's technique and based on the fact that lead vocalists are usually the 2nd bests after main and Ten was called main vocalist by YangYang during one of their insta lives I make an assumption that Kun can be lead vocalist in WayV once under some video. I was eaten up by fans -_-
I totally agree they all amazing but usually there are some lead vocals in the group (even if later on they can be promoted to main like it seems to happen with Renjun)
Yep, they sound different when they sing in korean or english.
Xiaojun sounds like an angel, and the Chinese LOVE such voices. I mean, I understand them totally))
Xiaojun voice is naturally deep and heavy tone...he makes it high and light because of it.
you fanboying over ten made me smile so much omg
C-POP KINGS ARE FINALLY HERE STAN WAYV
I'm so glad that you talked about Xiaojun's emotion because when I first started stanning Wayv (less than a week ago), I noticed right away how well he conveys emotion while singing and I immediately was able to connect to him if that makes sense. I am not a very emotionally expressive person I guess and Xiaojun's singing almost helps me understand my own emotions if that makes any sense at all lol
"Even Winwin who I found lines for" this is so sad but so true.. He's literally been an idol for 4 years and the fact that even now it was hard to find material just shows how much he's been robbed by SM (I'm very sure that they also gave him wayy to little vocal lessons bc I believe that he really has more potential). But regardless, in really happy that you did the WayV ranking!!💚 They'll also be releasing their first full length album in a while and as soon as the current c-situation resolves, I hope that we will be getting some live performances! If that happens, you can just look at them and decide if you think that a reranking is needed or not. But I really like your current ranking and I completely agree with it! I'm also very happy that you put Ten in 2nd and even said that he can be considered 1st. Ten, for me, has such a beautiful and CLEAR voice and I absolutely love it!! Definitely one of my favourite singers (and dancers lol)!💚
Ten is actually quite good at rapping too but he rarely has an actual rap line, not rap-ish like in 7th sense. The closet to normal rap and the best I found is NCT's performance in the end of 2016 on SBS Gayo Daejun with cover for "Wolf&Sheep"
didnt he rap a little in jopping?
@@youdontneedtoknowmyname4266 gotta move watch the money monsoon
@@youdontneedtoknowmyname4266 for me his line from Jopping isn't that impressive in terms of rap skills. Better than The 7th Sense but that Wolf&Ship cover still win
I’m all here for you fanboying over Ten he really is the definition of an all rounder
Hendery really has a big ability to grow better and I hope he does, at first I thought he couldn't sing because he had no lines but after a while (dream plan + King of hearts..etc) I realized he has a big potential
yes, he has potential... hope he gets more exposure :)
my favorite line in king of hearts is one that he sings
If anything, Hendery's the bass of the group. I wish he shows more of his lower register in songs
One of the reasons why I stan WayV is because of their mix of languages. They are one of the most lingually diverse groups, and I am completely here for it. I know NCT127 has Mark, Jaehyun, Johnny, and Yuta as the foreign swaggers; however, the rest of the members don't speak English and Japanese as confidently. In WayV, each of the members can comfortably switch between Cantonese, Mandarin, English, and Korean in every sentence. In addition, WinWin speaks Wenzhounese, YangYang speaks German, and Ten speaks Thai. I speak 5 languages myself, and I have genuinely never related more to a vocal group's language problems. Thanks, Samuel for this ranking!!
I have to say that acknowledging the fact that there's not a lot of material so far but still doing the video and also mentioning that you'd be willing to do another video again if things change is really commendable. You listen to what your viewers say but you always try to be very just and fair, and I have to say that it's deeply appreciated and that's why people keep watching your videos. Keep it up, we're loving the content.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that 😊
Sam fanboying over Ten is the most adorable thing ever 😂😂
Your pronunciation was great btw!
Ten and Xiaojun, my biases in wayv~~ I was super proud to see ten getting so many main singing parts and high notes, he's improved so much since his debut days. You're right, he really is phenomenal, a monster really, in how many skills he has. I wonder what he's going to pull out next! Xiaojun though, I love his thicker tenor voice and the emotion he puts into it. I think he could become one of SM's top singers.
Infinite is a great group, I love their music! Looking forward to the next one!
yangyang ace. this is so interesting to see this rank. because besides the main vocals, there is little content. very insightful thank you !!
I love Xiaojun’s voice 😅
me too ❤️
WayV is so poorly promoted that we don't get to know their vocal potential nicely... Usually SM has the best vocalists, so even if they boys are not that good now, any time in future they will be great for sure (I'm not saying they are bad, I even don't know them nicely, but as SM idols, they always get better).
And I would suggest you to take a look in UP10TION vocalists... I bet you'd have fun watching them ( :
@Pinkii Lights all the China line in SM is somehow underrated by the company... They should Lay take care of them. I'm pretty sure they would explode famous instantly.
@@letitgo9026 Have them work with Lay or Zhoumi. Kun and Xiao Jun have worked with Zhoumi before, SM released the song Zhoumi wrote for his hometown Wuhan featuring Kun and Xiao Jun. He would be a great mentor.
Yo up10tion
WayV still only 1.5 years group so just wait for it, they still have long journey. WayV vocalists still promoted way better than dreamies vocal lines outside Haechan tho
Not poorly promoted it's because covid-19. They just started extensive promotion in last 2019 and early 2020. They performed in newyear celebration in zhejiang TV. Covid-19 broke earlier in China than In other countries. I believe SM have so many projects for them before covid-19, because they main target is china not Korea or other country. For example Lucas has many scheduled in mycountry for promoting his commercial but cancelled due covid-19.
At least during this covid-19 pandemic the boys can performed in many korean shows or online concert unlike other cpop groups.
yeaaa finally someone exposed xiaojun's voice 😭✊🏼 I've been thinking about how SM bravely sent him to a foreign group without really much exposing him before which means that SM, the agency of vocalists, has a reason for this and of course, that's because he has that phenomenal voice as well as the main vocals in other nct units. thankss a lot for this.
by the way, it will be nice to see you ranking all nct main vocalists or just SM's main vocalists, I think you're gonna love ranking them, they're such good vocalistsss
Wait isn't Xiaoijun Chinese?
@@spideymark7322 yes he's chinese, he's foreigner for koreans right? '-'
for me XIAOJUN is so phenomenal, and i cannot wait to see how he grows as a vocalist. he has a lot of experience singing cantopop (cantonese pop) and it's quite obvious to me because cantopop is sung with tones (mandarin pop like wayv is sung without tones) which i think gives him so much vocal dexterity and emotion. cantopop is difficult because the sung tones have to be placed/pitched properly and it's difficult to project that onto melody, so cantonese singers tend to focus on emotion/delivery of lyrics and tempo to create style. so xiaojun's stylistic choices suggests to me that he *hears* more than others bc of his cantonese/cantopop background, which makes sense considering cantonese's 9 tones that need to be maintained when singing and mandarin's lack of tones.
xiaojun's voice is really special for someone so young, he reminds me of the great HK/cantopop singers of the late90s/early2000s, and there aren't really any young impressive vocalists in hk/cantopop right now. his voice triggers something deeply nostalgic for me. he sounds so unique and his voice suggests that he has way more experience than his 20yrs. xiaojun's father is also an excellent singer and did extensive touring around china and asia, if i recall correctly, and was an extremely popular impersonator of the cantopop star anita mui.
i'm really curious to hear more of his lower register bc i think it has a lot of potential! would also love to hear him do some runs.
I was about to sleep but I saw this 😂
You fanboying over Ten is a mood, it’s me when he does something amazing like when I found out he was crazy flexible and also an amazing artist, I need some of that talent pls & thank you
EDIT: WayV are having a comeback!! 9th of June 😊
i completely agree with xiaojun being first! his voice is amazing. i was a bit surprised that you ranked ten above kun because i haven’t anyone do that until now, but i agree, ten is such an allrounder. i prefer kun’s vocal tone, but it’s really interesting to hear you analyze their singing. xiaojun is definitely one of my favorite vocalists! and when you said that xiaojuns voice is very emotional, i really agree that he does sound like he’s on the verge of tears lol.
He literally just posted this WayV ranking, and WayV announces their next comeback in 10 days 😂
wait they announced it-
SM right decision was to made Xiaojun main vocalist. I was quite suprised at XJ "i love the way you talking to me" part in Love Talk, his technique is no joke
Thank you for this! Interesting to see Ten at #2, I'd always assumed he'd be ranked below Kun, but your arguments made completely sense. I've noticed Ten can be a bit shakier in his vocals (I think their Beyond Live 'Face to Face' was a good example), but that feels more like a practice thing. I do love his vocals in 'Baby Don't Stop', beautiful tone there. So thank you again!
That's actually the video that convinced me that Ten was #2 too, cause even if he was pitchy, he had better breath support than Kun. But they all sounded kind of tired there, lol. Glad he found some other clips.
I just stopped watching EXO funny compilations for this😂 stan Sam!
PS: that fanboying over Ten was adorable🥺
louder!
Sam is all of us 😁😁😁😁
Xiaojun main vocal for a reason ❤️❤️❤️
You pronounced Xiao Jun right!
Also, I’m also not a dictation expert, but Mandarin does have this thing where you curl your tongue and can be used to do things such as the “sh” (and a bunch of other sounds that idk how to translate-ish to English). The thing that makes it different from the usual “sh” sound is that it does bring your voice a bit back down the throat, but with my experience with singing (plz don’t take my word for this since it’s just a hobby), the curl-your-tongue thing doesn’t rlly bring it back enough for it to become a habit/problem with singing. Pitch wise, it does kind of block(?) you from going lower and deeper, but that’s also why a lot of songs sung in Mandarin are pronounced “sloppily” (for lack of better terms).
Yangyang comes from Taiwan, which surprisingly matters because Mandarin in Taiwan is spoken a bit differently. Mandarin in Taiwan doesn’t have the curling of the tongue (I mean they do, but not really... it’s complicated) which might be why Yangyang doesn’t really have a placement problem and is the main rapper (curling the tongue while rapping is an additional burden since rapping already involves a lot of syllables).
With my experience with Mandarin, the tone of Mandarin is usually either high and nasally or kind of deeper and lower down the throat. If someone’s in the middle, it’s usually an accent from a foreigner or someone from a less-populated area in China (like Lucas and Ten - they speak kind of down the middle). Also, I know that Lucas is from Hong Kong but Hong Kong used to a British territory, so the Mandarin spoken there is usually different from “traditional” Mandarin that you would find in, for example, Beijing. In Mandarin, if you speak down the “middle,” you actually don’t get an authentic sound when you curl the tongue. It’s hard to hear if Mandarin isn’t your first language. Most people don’t care, though, because China is humongous and almost always has foreign businessmen or tourists.
Mandarin is a very diction-driven language and curling the tongue is just one example. There are other diction rules and complications in Mandarin that make it VERY hard to master and sound authentic in (so Ten is already a genius by being able to learn it). There’s also the fact that Hendery, Lucas, and Xiao Jun (maybe Winwin and Yangyang too) speak Cantonese. I don’t speak Cantonese so I can’t say anything about it, but there are probably some wacky diction rules in there too.
This is obviously not a scientific answer and I even don’t know if this is right, but this is my experience with Mandarin as someone who comes from and has lived in Taiwan, China, and a Hong Kong while also being fluent in English.
Wow, sorry this was so long!
(P.S. Ten is my bias too and thank you for the wonderful analysis to WayV! Love your videos! ❤️)
Wow, that was fascinating. Thank you SO much for that, it all makes alot of sense. I do want to learn more about language affects on tounge placement. So that was a fun read. Thank you!
i speak cantonese and i can attest the diction rules are extremely different from mandarin. one of the biggest differences is there is no "curling" of the tongue (no R sounds that frequent mandarin esp beijing accents) and it has more tones than mandarin (9, compared to the 4). What I've noticed being a native speaker is that a lot of the tones are either in the front of the mouth or back of the mouth, very few sounds have you opening your throat so it tends to sound nasally on most people. I know Lucas Xiaojun and Hendery are native canto speakers, Xiaojun probably has issues with this less because Guangdong while heavily populated with canto speakers is a part of the Chinese mainland so mandarin is much more widespread there, meanwhile mandarin influence in macau and hk (where lucas and hendery are from) is lesser. I noticed in the WayV dream launch web series that Hendery and Lucas sometimes trip up in their mandarin pronunciations too which could partially be attributed to the differences in canto and mando as well.
Hi to add on, while all the members speak mandarin, it is likely that they also grew up speaking their dialect which is probably different for every member. Just like how cantonese is different from mandarin, the difference between dialects can be as different as mandarin and korean are. I'm not familiar with the individual dialects but Wenzhounese (what winwin speaks) has a reputation for being the most indistinguishable/different language to mandarin. It's even nicknamed the devil's language for being super hard to learn. Anyway I've probably gone off topic but just a little tidbit
@@sambradley8297 you actually find the 'sh' sound mentioned in English coarticulation, when you say "push your" quickly
@@ineednotbe yeah also adding on to this, somewhere in one of the older vlives ten mentioned something along the lines of his chinese teacher telling him not to try and learn chinese off of winwin because winwin's chinese was so different haha and lucas joked before about "coming to korea to learn chinese" so he probably wasn't as good at mandarin when he first went to korea.
22:11 YES SIR!! "He can speak about 18/80 languages" Lmao Major Mood. And here i am, i know two languages and can't speak either of them properly. Ten is one of THE most talented person alive yet so underrated. Ten Main Dancer, Main Vocal material AND can also rap. Ten best boy. STAN TEN thank you!
I remember when they released the reveal videos for xiaojun, hendery and yangyang and I legit thought that xiaojun would be a rapper and the other two singers but then they debuted hahha
I always thought Xiaojun will become vocalist. This is kinda weird reason but his face somehow reminded me of Jonghyun a lot so I think he will become vocalist just like Jonghyun
He did do some rapping in pre debut as well as dancing and singing so it makes sense GHJGFDD
YangYang being the all-rounder he is
your whole section fanboying ten i sat up straight and just went i know. i know! I KNOW. i love him. :(
Thanks for the video!!!
I love Xiaojun's "but I'm still no satisfied" line in Regular, it's sooo good
i agree xiaojun's range is really amazing
I'm just passing by hoping Kun will be appreciated but I know he will be
edit: I was correct
YangYang has ambitions to get Ten's position (he mentioned it multiple times) so I'm very interested in where that is going
Ps: he allso sings in a song called Asteroid by producer IMLAY so check that out if you haven't...
Yes Mr excellent content creater is back.
is it only me but xiaojun's voice kinda changes now, and it's even better. like when samuel said that he brings his voice far back, i think he rarely does that now.
After WayV's new album comes out you should do a mega ranking of all units of NCT
YES, we all need to fangirl/boi about Ten. I mean he is seriously a genius. He can dance SOOO WELL, sing like a main vocalist, rap like a main rapper. Outside of his profession, he can also speak 4 languages (literally learned Chinese in less than two years), draw & design art, be extremely funny....
I am pretty sure even if he didn’t choose to become an idol he would still be able to do well in whatever job it is.
Smartest guy in the INDUSTRY. PERIOD.
I finished watching and gotta say you've pinpointed exactly why I'm Xiao Jun biased (btw you pronounced his name fine~) ^^ the amount of emotion he puts into his singing is probably what hooked me.
I agree with your comment about the emotion with which Xiaojun sings. It's why I really like listening to him.
When I first listened to WayV's Moonwalk(at that time I didn't know who they are) I was very surprised by XIAOJUN's voice and I said ''Wow, this guy's voice sounds different from other pop music voices ''...so I became a fan (for the 1st time a real fan of a pop group) Agree that talking about a good voice is not only about vocal timbre&range&technique and how strong that voice is but also about emotion. Art is about conveying emotion and ideas. XIAOJUN conveys emotions to us. I remember that after his dance video with Ten was released, Winwin was asked who would be the next person he would like to dance with and he said XIAOJUN because it'd be a very emotional dance
Thank you so much for completing the trilogy! Samuel is us winwin stans trying to cobble together all of the short clips of his singing we have heard to make a collage of his vocal palette: we are trying. The fact that the best clips we have of him singing live come from a variety show never ceases to make me angry (perhaps my villain origin story). Hendery is a wild card, whatever we expected from him as a rookie he turned around, honestly, I have no clue what he might do next.
Your point about Chinese is really interesting (as someone who is learning Chinese), because it would make sense why ten, someone who has learned and spoken different languages with different tongue placements and vocal placements, but Xiaojun who didn't start learning languages until later might be more used to a farther back placement. Xiaojun's emotional singing is just him I think, but also because he has bit of a musical theatre background which might affect it. As far as Kun I agree with everything you said, but I never had the words for it before! Im totally rambling but this one was awesome thanks for this ranking!
P.S.: sadly there are no live clips of it but YangYang's song with asteroid is by far my favorite time hearing him sing, also that song is just like, really really good for studying to.
xiaojun’s voice is literally my fav on this earth
SM made Ten rap in The 7th Sense which never made any sense to me.
WayV is by far my favorite group to come out of the NCT project, but I do feel like SM didn't really focus on giving voice training to the boys. I feel like it's a thing that happens with SM and their Chinese trainees tbh, because Luhan seemed quite untrained for a main vocalist back in the EXO-M days. But then they have Zhoumi, so idk really. Anyways I'm super excited for Infinite, they are my favorite boy group and they have the guy with my favorite tone (albeit having his technical flaws) in kpop: Mr. Nam Woohyun!
Luhan wasn't a main vocalists but a lead one.
These videos are addicting! They're so well researched and entertaining. Thank you so much for continuing to make them ❤️
CHITTAPHON LEECHAIYAPORNKUL BEST BOY
XIAOJUN IS A VOCAL KING
Excited for this one!!!! WayV is an amazing group.
I really like ten’s voice, especially when he sings r&b song. It sounds soothing.
Ahh I’m annoyed no one sent you Asteroid by Yangyang, he sang the whole song and it shows a lot more of what he’s capable of!
No they did, and it was taken into account. I just didn't put it in as there was no clips of him really singing it. But I was fully aware of the song 😊
It's just funny how everyone kept on downgrading Ten's vocals saying he can't sing when he keeps on improving himself every day. Deserves the main vocalist position, a true ace.
I love your comment.
Thank you for supporting TEN.
okay im literally obsessed with these videos omg
Xiaojun has the best voice, I love it ❤️
i already realize xiaojun voice are best since regular,and when take off his anglic voice really hit me already...i talk about this with my friend but they din't realise..thanks for having same thinking with me [even i'm not a vocalist]..
I am always saying that Winwin has so much potential, I can see him doing a lot with it if they would actually let him. He does interesting things with his vocal tone.
Xiaojun to me is inarguably wayv's best vocalist. He knows how to use his voice, he's not just singing for the sake of singing.
xiaojun's name is pronounced like "see-ow zjewn" where the "zj" is pronounced halfway in between a z and a j. i'm not gonna get into detail about the shengdiao (accents) because they're really hard for foreigners to pronounce lmao but that's basically how you'd pronounce his name! anyway i completely agree with your ranking for the wayv members. i feel like winwin could do so much better if SM actually gave him opportunities to showcase what he can do, and if they gave him proper training.
Just want to point out that you should slur the see-ow so it's basically one syllable. Almost like how the "liar" part of "familiar" is spoken so quickly it sounds like familyar
I always hear smth like "Shiaojun" with "j" closer to... idk... french version of "j" in "Jean" maybe (idk how to explain, very basic explanation is that I hear smth close to Russian letter "Ж") and first sound I hear as smth in the middle between "s" and "sch"?
At least when he says his name of other members say it
@@depressed_firefly sometimes when the members are just calling his name, or talking quickly, the letters kind of blend into each other and it can sound like more of a french j sound. but in my opinion (i speak chinese fluently :) i've always thought it is quite a hard j or soft z kind of sound. the whole 'jun' syllable is quite short and sharp, and sounds almost a bit like a quick 'juin', if that makes sense. also, to me, the syllable 'xiao' has always seemed to be more of an open mouthed sound, like the ar sound from star mixed with 'ow' from now. i wish i could include an audio clip or something, but it's like how when you say 'meow' it's like 'mee-au' but with xiao its like 'shee-ao'.
sorry, that was a really bad explanation lol, but i hope that made at least a little sense.
Lily C yep i totally agree with that!
Anna K well i was just explaining how to speak it technically, as i'm chinese and that is just how to pronounce the characters that form his name! sometimes the members tend to use a foreign accent to address xiaojun's name, and xiaojun himself has said (in a recent live, actually) that you can pronounce it like shiaojun if you can't pronounce it the mandarin way. technically the character "xiao" is not meant to have a "sh" sound. the j in "jun" being pronounced like a french j is also a foreign tendency; it's not meant to be soft like that. i'm not sure what the russian letter sounds like though.
Samuel really reminds me of Bobble from Tinkerbell
I don't know what means. But thank you....maybe hahaha
I would personally put Kun higher then Ten because I just looove his tone, but technically you have a point))
Yes, I would put Kun higher, too.
agree i personally prefer kun's tone and control. ten sounds too thin and airy for my liking. sometimes ten sounds like he has the potential to crack or lose a note.
So excited!! I love your analysis, but yeah I'm sure it's hard for WayV, we don't know enough about some of their voices. Thank you for your hard work as always!!!
I think one of the problems for Lucas is that the songs of kpop in general tend to be higher in pitch, even for the men, also,bc way v has a lot of voices that do better in the higher range, their songs tend to favour that. If Lucas had a song dedicated to his baratone that would be amazing
SMent. do tend to favour a higher voice i think and maybe that’s why the members with lower tones tend to seem less trained as they’re pushed towards the rap route
Everyone’s talking about ten but I’m in love with xiao Juns voice. It’s so soothing but powerful. He’s amazing vocally
I was really looking forward to this video cos I love your videos and nct so I'm glad that you've heard all 21 members of nct 😁
you know that Moment in the song where it slows down and xiaojun comes in all dramatically?? (like the "can i be honest" part of takeoff, the prechorus of come back, etc.) those are literally the most satisfying parts ever his voice is soooo good in those parts
Thank you for doing this. Also, thank you for trying to find as many materials as possible before doing this. Really appreciate this.
Xiaojun is soooo good
When it comes to WayV Vocal Line, i always compare them to SNSD's, like for example Xiaojun is Taeyeon, Kun is Jessica and Ten is Seohyun...
I honestly think Winwins voice would improve a lot if sm gave him more line. He doesn’t get much opportunity to showcase or practice his voice
in conclusion, Xiaojun is the nation's main vocalist
thank you for being so amazing
u did a great job pronouncing 'xiao jun'! i love how inclusive you are for Chinese culture and language!
phew, I was slightly nervous, thank you!
i just know ten can be a main rapper too if he gets serious with rapping lol that guy's a beast
I would have personally put kun over ten, but they are both really good, thanks for doing this!
wow I'm actually super impressed at how thorough you were in finding singing clips, I assumed you'd only build an opinion on their main discography but thankfully I was wrong! They're actually about to release their first full album on June 9th with 10 new songs, so hopefully we'll get to hear new sides to their voices^^ I'd been waiting forever for a vocal analysis on WayV so thank you for making this video~
Ten videos later and you already have lots of comments and on your way to 10K.
All the best!
7. WinWin
6. Lucas
5. Hendery
4. YangYang
3. Kun
2. Ten
1. Xiaojun
Another interesting thing to share is WayV wasn't able to debut because they don't have a strong main vocalist until SM casted Xiaojun. They are so impressed with such an all-rounder ace and even featured him heavily for his vocal and dance in NCT's most successful song "Make a Wish".
finally !!! thank you so much :) i hope you’re well
Thank you for doing this 😭 and I love what you said about Ten 🥺
Nct Best vocalist
Taeil🌕 Xiaojun🦖 Doyoung🐰 💚💚
Their vocal in another level
"everyone can kinda sing alright, even Winwin, who I found lines for" lol
FIRST COMMENT! WAYV KINGS THANKS FOR THE VIDEO
You are so right about Xiaojun! His emotions is great for singing Chinese and Korean ballads. However, he hits different when he sings English songs. He sounds quite Bruno Marish with his R&B style of singing with his riffs and runs, especially in "Nectar". For WayV vocalists like Kun and Ten, they sound good when singing in a certain range of their upper vocal register but very flat when singing in deeper notes because of their thinner/airy voice but for Xiaojun, he sounds great in both lower and upper vocal registers which really shows his versatility as a singer and his high notes are extremely solid. Most importantly, his MR removed performances is the most stable (along with Taeil) among all NCT members.
Sam
So is Xiaojun a baritone, a tenor or what? 🤔
I like his dark tone 😳
Sounds like a tenor to me 😊
Just for comparison, Lucas, winwin and I think Hendery are baritones.
Samuel Bradley
It’s just that his voice is so different from what I’ve heard before that I couldn’t quite place it
Thanks for clarifying
ten is so good and he has improved so so so much as the years go by. that is extreme hard work and it shows, hes so GOOD