GUYS! This video reached the local news and they interviewed me. It should be on kdkatv at 5-6 tonight. I know im on camera all the time, but man I was nervous....hopefully its not TOO cringey! 😂😂😂
@fishinwithish I was wondering why half the river was clear and half muddy by the police station. Ride up the trail and thought it'd be dunbsr creek, but it was clear. Then saw what they were doing in the sewage plant and figured that was the culprit. It smelled pretty bad too
Thats crazy! I think the erika girl I just talked to would like to hear this, thats the girl who interviewed me. Heres her facebook page facebook.com/erika.stanish.5?mibextid=ZbWKwL
Interesting video. I’d heard a little about it. We had a fungicide spill in my local system 2 years ago- it killed every species. Huge bass and catfish dead too. Hoping this is some sort of natural phenomenon related to back to back fall and spring droughts with crazy winter flows…
I think I remember you talking about that in a video awhile back, I hope your right too I just went back to see if more are dying and I didn't see any new deaths. Still some fish floating down below the bridge tho. Whatever it was hopefully its over with now🙏
@@B.A.Bassangler I've mainly fished above the spill origins. It's fishing ok. Some bigs, but not a lot of smaller fish in my experience. Used to be I could always catch handful of them, now some days it's a challenge. Also virtually no Rock bass, which are often a water quality indicator. And used to be almost nuisance level. Maybe the after effects?
This was on the" west draw" or possibly "west jaw" bridge. Personally I think it's west draw, but with the accent we have here, it sounds like west jaw 🤣🤣🤣 it's about a mile down the bike trail if you park behind martins in cville.
Hey ish check out the drunkard creek fish kill that happened in Aug 2009,that's my home waters,it was a golden alge bloom from high concentration of salt brine water. The creek has since made a come back after a few years
I just read a big article about that fish kill and they said possibly up to 60,000 fish!!!! Thats insane!!! They are saying we lost a few hundred fish. I been meaning to make my way out to dunkard creek at some point but I havent managed to go out there yet. Heard alot of good things about it!
I personally dont think it would, but if it could that leads to ask why would ecoli only kill one species of fish? So my answer is it wouldnt kill one species of fish so I also dont think ecoli would harm the fish.
Saw you on Kdkk. I’m happy this was brought to the public’s attention. I still think there’s more to it than spawning stress and low water levels. Why are the big Muskies dyin?
There could be more to it than that, I ran through a couple different theories with them and the spawning theory ia the one they used from what I said. Its hard to really say, nothin more seems to be dying. Went out today and seen suckers musky pike walleye smallies trout all alive n well through this section. Hopefully its over and everything is good now
That's just crazy man! It's really tragic those muskies are dying. I agree that it's good your fisheries are being cared for by people who actually care. Glad you caught some smallies, but you better start doing a rain dance before it is too late!
3 things of note: 1. Bottom feeders are dieing, trout don't bottom feed. 2. The sulfur seems to be alittle high where your fishin, red on the rocks. 3. I seen they did a water test at yough park & it's not safe to swim in it.
Well no carp were found deas yet only suckers, and they both eat pretty much anything. I agree trout dont bottom feed but trout were brought up in the idea of a toxic spill. The test was for ecoli which you are correct in it not being safe to swim but ecoli is always in the water with varying levels. I believe ecoli is dangerous for us but not the fish, but thats a partial assumption because I have never heard of fish dying from ecoli.
@@fishinwithish All valid points. I wonder if sulfur from the mines are effecting anything. I'm just popping ideas out there. I really don't know either.
@@Thejefflindsay Idk the spot I was at is a good bit below the bridge and most of the deaths seem to of started above that bridge. That sulfur or mine runoff which ive been told is actually acid has been there since I was a kid. It has gotten alot worse tho, but ive also seen even worse in some creeks and honestly looked like baitfish/chubs loved being in that orange creek hahha. So im doubtful that sulfur is killing fish.
Quick question...what's the muskies main diet in that river! If their main diet is it smaller suckers, then we may be getting closer to some answers! It's sumping that the suckers are eating directly & whatever the muskies are eating have been directly eating off it also! Suckers love immature allege (slimy transparent stuff... same as smaller fish (shade & other things) but carp stop feeding on that stuff very early in their life as far as suckers they feed on it their entire life..... soooo hears my theory & from what I'm reading it may be the most complete theory out there! Start by focusing on the different types of Algae & it's subspecies then focus on what species thrives off eating & absoring the most sulfur & things with a lower ph (the more acidic side).... & it can happen fast..... like boom! A leak up stream sets some sulper lose.... & it's not harmful to the fishery as a hole because the parts per million aren't high enough, but if theres a plant in the fishery that feeds off that sulfur...then u have a problem because now u have a viable part of your water ways... feeding & soaking up what sulfur it can, then comes giving it a way higher ppm then the water way as a whole...then along comes a school of suckers big & small, they feed then b4 the sulfur enfested algae kills them the school as it starts to die...looking weaker as they make their way down stream they encounter musky! Now u have to shake the theory down even more to figure out why just these two species are effected & it goes down like this....shade, minnows, bream...yes they eat the same stuff, butt how much & what parts of that algae their eating actually holds the sulfur! My theory is once the suckers get to a certain size is when then can actually start eating the algae thats mature enough to eat & absob the harmful sulfur amounts..... so if it's sulfur, that's how it can kill two species in a water way & not all who eat algae or sumping like small & large mouth bass that can't quit eat that teenage size sucker that's just old enough to feed on that mature & very deadly algae! Sorry for the length of this comment, my sugar was & is still low...🙏🏻again sorry for the detail & length of message🙏🏻
@@thomasbowen737 well I know muskies do eat suckers creekchubs and trout primarily. Maybe more Im not positive, I dont have all that much knowledge on them yet. Thats very interesting to hear about the suckers eating alage their whole lives and how carp stop eating it after awhile. I never heard that but it makes alot of sense! Your theory does make alot of sense and I like the amount of thought that went into it! The only thing is as of now, there are no new deaths happening. Its likely we will never really know exactly what happened, but your theory is a very good one! Thanks for commenting and watching!
We used to catch a lot of white suckers & hog suckers in Lycoming Creek in PA as kids. Good informative Video but very concerning. Dead muskies just break my heart & suckers are very resillient. Very wierd...I've never tore my finger up catching so many fish 🤣
I havent caught alot of suckers but when I do its tons of fun. I havent been seeing any new deaths lately. Hopefully its over now. Haha i have caught so many smallies that my fingers get very tore up hahha
Sux man. I grew up fishing the Yough, and hate to hear this. I hope it wasn't a spill that only bottom feeders would be affected, (and what eats them).
That was one of my worries as well, but I dont think it was because shortly after this no more fish died. I would assume more species would be affected but idk. I dont think we will ever know honestly...
Just read the CBS article; what a joke...1st it's blame the river rally, then it's the levels were in the red and E-Coli may have put=em over the top...but it's TOTALLY OK to swim in E-Coli water. Not me, too much mistrust with what's going on, I wear waders all the time now. I don't even care if they leak a little, just don't want my nicks and cuts marinading in poop.
Yeah thats when I talked to him around 6pm or so. He was in my trout stocking video and i saw him another time and was very cool and pleasant to talk to.
Just seen u video for the first time there's either an wel site nearby or a company has dumped fracking chemicals in there.all that oil and weird looking stuff that's not good
In my experience of keeping fish within id say 4+hrs of bringing them home they are becoming stiff. I only know this because it makes filleting them a bit harder to do in my opinion and on my 8hr kayak trips if i catch and keep early they are stiff by the time i get them home.
If it was a spill I would assume more than one species would be effected but who knows more species may start to die off slower than the suckers, hopefully not tho. Good thought on the tributary, there is one thats below river park and above west draw.
That sucks man. It would probably have to be a hell of a chemical spill if was killing that many fish but then again as stated bye yourself and the other gentleman it would be killing everything you would think.
Yeah man, I really don't know what would be happening. Im currently back on the bridge n it doesnt look like anything new is dying. Most of the fish are washed away only see one or two on the banks up here.
That is good news. I feel like the ecoli test is as accurate as a COVID test. Haha. I'm not sure I am buying that one myself. I'm going with your theory.
@@cannonball7322 haha yeah I mean my opinion on ecoli is... Ecoli is always in the water, so why would it kill the fish? The levels of ecoli always go higher when the water flow is low. I assume because it doesnt wash out as fast and has time to build up? But either way there has been ecoli in the river since I was born so ecoli killing fish is last on my list of culprits. I also doubt it was any kind of toxic spill or even anything damgerous to a human, because I have been wading that river or floating it almost every single day since the start of this.
That’s because the trout aren’t effected by that big toxic train derailment that happened about 8 months ago I bet it’s finally affecting the river fish
Also good point, I wish I wouldve thought to ask him if they were going to do any testing! At this point seens like most people are aware of the situation so hopefully it either ends or someone figures out whats happening!
@@S_C_A_R_F_A_C_E Yeah it was near Ohio pa border and when it happened they were saying it could cause effects to wildlife for years . That’s why they need to do testing . Find out if it’s the same toxin from the train derailment.
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GUYS! This video reached the local news and they interviewed me. It should be on kdkatv at 5-6 tonight. I know im on camera all the time, but man I was nervous....hopefully its not TOO cringey! 😂😂😂
Thanks for the video good work!
Your welcome! Thanks for watchin!
The sewage treatment plant in wheeler bottom had machinery in their ponds last Monday and it was turning the whole river brown.
Whatttt. Kdka just interviewed me, maybe you should call them n tell them. Thats nuts
@fishinwithish I was wondering why half the river was clear and half muddy by the police station. Ride up the trail and thought it'd be dunbsr creek, but it was clear. Then saw what they were doing in the sewage plant and figured that was the culprit. It smelled pretty bad too
Thats crazy! I think the erika girl I just talked to would like to hear this, thats the girl who interviewed me. Heres her facebook page
facebook.com/erika.stanish.5?mibextid=ZbWKwL
@@fishinwithishneed to contact that fish warden and let him know about the machinery at the sewer plant.
Just found your channel dude really cool vids deserve way more subs keep up the grind and hard work amazing qaulity
Thanks man, I appreciate the kind words! Glad you found my channel!
Interesting video. I’d heard a little about it. We had a fungicide spill in my local system 2 years ago- it killed every species. Huge bass and catfish dead too. Hoping this is some sort of natural phenomenon related to back to back fall and spring droughts with crazy winter flows…
I think I remember you talking about that in a video awhile back, I hope your right too I just went back to see if more are dying and I didn't see any new deaths. Still some fish floating down below the bridge tho. Whatever it was hopefully its over with now🙏
Chartiers Creek? I live nearby, and haven't tried to fish it yet. Hear any good?
@@B.A.Bassangler I've mainly fished above the spill origins. It's fishing ok. Some bigs, but not a lot of smaller fish in my experience. Used to be I could always catch handful of them, now some days it's a challenge. Also virtually no Rock bass, which are often a water quality indicator. And used to be almost nuisance level. Maybe the after effects?
I see they finally let you upload them HD👍🏽
Yes FINALLY! Was so frustrating, kinda funny how I make a post bashing youtube and BOOM its uploaded😂😂😂
@@fishinwithish right?😂😂
Are you able to give the location of the bridge that you and the officer were on?
This was on the" west draw" or possibly "west jaw" bridge. Personally I think it's west draw, but with the accent we have here, it sounds like west jaw 🤣🤣🤣 it's about a mile down the bike trail if you park behind martins in cville.
Hey ish check out the drunkard creek fish kill that happened in Aug 2009,that's my home waters,it was a golden alge bloom from high concentration of salt brine water. The creek has since made a come back after a few years
I just read a big article about that fish kill and they said possibly up to 60,000 fish!!!! Thats insane!!! They are saying we lost a few hundred fish. I been meaning to make my way out to dunkard creek at some point but I havent managed to go out there yet. Heard alot of good things about it!
I seen where they tested the river and the water failed with ecoli warning. Would that harm the fish at all?
I personally dont think it would, but if it could that leads to ask why would ecoli only kill one species of fish? So my answer is it wouldnt kill one species of fish so I also dont think ecoli would harm the fish.
Saw you on Kdkk. I’m happy this was brought to the public’s attention. I still think there’s more to it than spawning stress and low water levels. Why are the big Muskies dyin?
There could be more to it than that, I ran through a couple different theories with them and the spawning theory ia the one they used from what I said. Its hard to really say, nothin more seems to be dying. Went out today and seen suckers musky pike walleye smallies trout all alive n well through this section. Hopefully its over and everything is good now
That's just crazy man! It's really tragic those muskies are dying. I agree that it's good your fisheries are being cared for by people who actually care. Glad you caught some smallies, but you better start doing a rain dance before it is too late!
Yeah it really is tragic, in back at the bridge now and Im not seeing any new deaths and most of the fish are washed away now, hopefully its over!
3 things of note:
1. Bottom feeders are dieing, trout don't bottom feed.
2. The sulfur seems to be alittle high where your fishin, red on the rocks.
3. I seen they did a water test at yough park & it's not safe to swim in it.
Well no carp were found deas yet only suckers, and they both eat pretty much anything. I agree trout dont bottom feed but trout were brought up in the idea of a toxic spill. The test was for ecoli which you are correct in it not being safe to swim but ecoli is always in the water with varying levels. I believe ecoli is dangerous for us but not the fish, but thats a partial assumption because I have never heard of fish dying from ecoli.
@@fishinwithish All valid points. I wonder if sulfur from the mines are effecting anything. I'm just popping ideas out there. I really don't know either.
@@Thejefflindsay Idk the spot I was at is a good bit below the bridge and most of the deaths seem to of started above that bridge. That sulfur or mine runoff which ive been told is actually acid has been there since I was a kid. It has gotten alot worse tho, but ive also seen even worse in some creeks and honestly looked like baitfish/chubs loved being in that orange creek hahha. So im doubtful that sulfur is killing fish.
Quick question...what's the muskies main diet in that river! If their main diet is it smaller suckers, then we may be getting closer to some answers! It's sumping that the suckers are eating directly & whatever the muskies are eating have been directly eating off it also! Suckers love immature allege (slimy transparent stuff... same as smaller fish (shade & other things) but carp stop feeding on that stuff very early in their life as far as suckers they feed on it their entire life..... soooo hears my theory & from what I'm reading it may be the most complete theory out there! Start by focusing on the different types of Algae & it's subspecies then focus on what species thrives off eating & absoring the most sulfur & things with a lower ph (the more acidic side).... & it can happen fast..... like boom! A leak up stream sets some sulper lose.... & it's not harmful to the fishery as a hole because the parts per million aren't high enough, but if theres a plant in the fishery that feeds off that sulfur...then u have a problem because now u have a viable part of your water ways... feeding & soaking up what sulfur it can, then comes giving it a way higher ppm then the water way as a whole...then along comes a school of suckers big & small, they feed then b4 the sulfur enfested algae kills them the school as it starts to die...looking weaker as they make their way down stream they encounter musky! Now u have to shake the theory down even more to figure out why just these two species are effected & it goes down like this....shade, minnows, bream...yes they eat the same stuff, butt how much & what parts of that algae their eating actually holds the sulfur! My theory is once the suckers get to a certain size is when then can actually start eating the algae thats mature enough to eat & absob the harmful sulfur amounts..... so if it's sulfur, that's how it can kill two species in a water way & not all who eat algae or sumping like small & large mouth bass that can't quit eat that teenage size sucker that's just old enough to feed on that mature & very deadly algae! Sorry for the length of this comment, my sugar was & is still low...🙏🏻again sorry for the detail & length of message🙏🏻
@@thomasbowen737 well I know muskies do eat suckers creekchubs and trout primarily. Maybe more Im not positive, I dont have all that much knowledge on them yet. Thats very interesting to hear about the suckers eating alage their whole lives and how carp stop eating it after awhile. I never heard that but it makes alot of sense! Your theory does make alot of sense and I like the amount of thought that went into it! The only thing is as of now, there are no new deaths happening. Its likely we will never really know exactly what happened, but your theory is a very good one! Thanks for commenting and watching!
Ive been fishing down at Shaner on the Yough and everything seems okay. Baitfish thriving everywhere no dead fish .
That's good! Seems like this only happened briefly n didn't affect the river all that much. Thanks for watching!!!
We used to catch a lot of white suckers & hog suckers in Lycoming Creek in PA as kids. Good informative Video but very concerning. Dead muskies just break my heart & suckers are very resillient. Very wierd...I've never tore my finger up catching so many fish 🤣
I havent caught alot of suckers but when I do its tons of fun. I havent been seeing any new deaths lately. Hopefully its over now. Haha i have caught so many smallies that my fingers get very tore up hahha
Sux man. I grew up fishing the Yough, and hate to hear this. I hope it wasn't a spill that only bottom feeders would be affected, (and what eats them).
That was one of my worries as well, but I dont think it was because shortly after this no more fish died. I would assume more species would be affected but idk. I dont think we will ever know honestly...
Just read the CBS article; what a joke...1st it's blame the river rally, then it's the levels were in the red and E-Coli may have put=em over the top...but it's TOTALLY OK to swim in E-Coli water.
Not me, too much mistrust with what's going on, I wear waders all the time now. I don't even care if they leak a little, just don't want my nicks and cuts marinading in poop.
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That was the dude I talked to last night he’s pretty cool
Yeah thats when I talked to him around 6pm or so. He was in my trout stocking video and i saw him another time and was very cool and pleasant to talk to.
@@fishinwithishyeah I took my boat out last night seen him also I seen musky is that secret spot your in towards dark
@@dakotawoods4983 yeah I think I was there around maybe 7-730. Was the musky you saw dead or alive? Also was it big?
@@fishinwithishalive in the water but last night I seen probably almost 50 dead fish mostly suckers but some carp and they were big
@@fishinwithishprobably 40 inches
Just seen u video for the first time there's either an wel site nearby or a company has dumped fracking chemicals in there.all that oil and weird looking stuff that's not good
rigor mortis is like a 12-24 hour thing, so they weren't dead a while ago, they died in the past day or two
In my experience of keeping fish within id say 4+hrs of bringing them home they are becoming stiff. I only know this because it makes filleting them a bit harder to do in my opinion and on my 8hr kayak trips if i catch and keep early they are stiff by the time i get them home.
@@fishinwithish i hear you. i think i was speaking from when my kitty passed away last year =(
@@michaelmuder9767 oh ok, sorry to hear😥
Who knows what this fracking is doing to the River
Yeah, I have no idea. You have a good point!
Disease or spill up river in a tributary.
If it was a spill I would assume more than one species would be effected but who knows more species may start to die off slower than the suckers, hopefully not tho. Good thought on the tributary, there is one thats below river park and above west draw.
That sucks man. It would probably have to be a hell of a chemical spill if was killing that many fish but then again as stated bye yourself and the other gentleman it would be killing everything you would think.
Yeah man, I really don't know what would be happening. Im currently back on the bridge n it doesnt look like anything new is dying. Most of the fish are washed away only see one or two on the banks up here.
That is good news. I feel like the ecoli test is as accurate as a COVID test. Haha. I'm not sure I am buying that one myself. I'm going with your theory.
@@cannonball7322 haha yeah I mean my opinion on ecoli is... Ecoli is always in the water, so why would it kill the fish? The levels of ecoli always go higher when the water flow is low. I assume because it doesnt wash out as fast and has time to build up? But either way there has been ecoli in the river since I was born so ecoli killing fish is last on my list of culprits. I also doubt it was any kind of toxic spill or even anything damgerous to a human, because I have been wading that river or floating it almost every single day since the start of this.
That’s because the trout aren’t effected by that big toxic train derailment that happened about 8 months ago I bet it’s finally affecting the river fish
Dnr should take them fish for testing
Also good point, I wish I wouldve thought to ask him if they were going to do any testing! At this point seens like most people are aware of the situation so hopefully it either ends or someone figures out whats happening!
That is a very good reason the stockies werent effected yet for sure!
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Was there a toxic train derailment in or near Connellsville Pennsylvania?
@@S_C_A_R_F_A_C_E Yeah it was near Ohio pa border and when it happened they were saying it could cause effects to wildlife for years . That’s why they need to do testing . Find out if it’s the same toxin from the train derailment.
So sad!
It really is!!!!
so sad to see a fish kill i hope they find the cause
I know hopefully they figure it out!