Today I have to transfer an existing Apple Home installation with multiple accessories and scenes to a new (not additional) person. It would be so helpful if I could swap out the Apple ID but instead I have to reset everything in the home and rebuild it from scratch with the other person's Apple ID...😔
Totally agree. One of the many reasons I can't use HomeKit professionally - it is too painful to manage and support as no reasonable tools exist and Apple's privacy/security make it impossible to do anything but manual brute force.
@@DoItForMeSolutions Yes, basically the only way to *manage* it is to have the customer's iPhone in one's hand. I spent all day yesterday building the Home with the customer's phone and now as a 'resident' of this home I can see and use everything but I again need the customer's phone to add one more thing and make the tweaks 😠
@@davidandhometech There is another way. A few years ago I came up with a workaround. I put an iPad "in the rack" with its own AppleID and built the HomeKit Home "owned" by that Id. All the users in the home were 'invited' to that Home with full access. I could make all the changes using that iPad without having the two-factor dance required for the homeowner's AppleId. Because it was a work-around pushing HomeKit to the edges where it was never really intended to go, I ran into numerous issues and glitches and ultimately abandoned the whole effort as it become unworkable anyway. But it did work for a while....
@@DoItForMeSolutions Yes, that's a good 'pro-tip'. I have the same solution and have installed an old iPad as a kitchen dashboard that also allows me to manage the home when I'm physically there. Better than holding the customer's phone but far from ideal.
Some good bullet points, but some bad takes. Apple prioritizes privacy and security. Amazon/Google are open. Venders release on Amazon/Google and ignore Apple because Apple has higher standards. I don’t see this as a hinderance to Apple, rather it’s a perk filtering out potential threats. Matter will allow for many venders to support Apple; however let’s not forget Matter’s foundation is HomeKit and the level of security and privacy are being forced upon venders because of Apple. Regardless Matter did cause tons of reliability issues, lag, and frankly headaches. I miss HomeKit pre-Matter era, it was much more reliable and fast.
Thanks! I think we are saying mostly the same thing. But I beg to differ - HomeKit has always been very buggy. Matter is only making things worse, in the short-term, but the underlying fundamental flaws in HomeKit have been pushed into Matter (because Apple is a driving force for Matter and contributed a lot of the tech design and some of the code). So I am hopeful the other Matter parters will be less tolerant of the bugs and eventually force the clean-up of all the inherited technical debt. On the privacy side, I did try to make the point that I truly value the privacy/security emphasis by Apple, but now that they have been a multi-billion dollar company for many years, they need to stop trying to "play the privacy card" whenever their products and tech are subpar. They, uniquely, have piles of cash and can figure out innovative ways to do both - fix all the problems, offer more features/support, and maintain or improve privacy/security while doing so.
What's your HomeKit wish list for WWDC 2024?
Today I have to transfer an existing Apple Home installation with multiple accessories and scenes to a new (not additional) person. It would be so helpful if I could swap out the Apple ID but instead I have to reset everything in the home and rebuild it from scratch with the other person's Apple ID...😔
Totally agree. One of the many reasons I can't use HomeKit professionally - it is too painful to manage and support as no reasonable tools exist and Apple's privacy/security make it impossible to do anything but manual brute force.
@@DoItForMeSolutions Yes, basically the only way to *manage* it is to have the customer's iPhone in one's hand. I spent all day yesterday building the Home with the customer's phone and now as a 'resident' of this home I can see and use everything but I again need the customer's phone to add one more thing and make the tweaks 😠
@@davidandhometech There is another way. A few years ago I came up with a workaround. I put an iPad "in the rack" with its own AppleID and built the HomeKit Home "owned" by that Id. All the users in the home were 'invited' to that Home with full access. I could make all the changes using that iPad without having the two-factor dance required for the homeowner's AppleId.
Because it was a work-around pushing HomeKit to the edges where it was never really intended to go, I ran into numerous issues and glitches and ultimately abandoned the whole effort as it become unworkable anyway. But it did work for a while....
@@DoItForMeSolutions Yes, that's a good 'pro-tip'. I have the same solution and have installed an old iPad as a kitchen dashboard that also allows me to manage the home when I'm physically there. Better than holding the customer's phone but far from ideal.
Some good bullet points, but some bad takes. Apple prioritizes privacy and security. Amazon/Google are open. Venders release on Amazon/Google and ignore Apple because Apple has higher standards. I don’t see this as a hinderance to Apple, rather it’s a perk filtering out potential threats. Matter will allow for many venders to support Apple; however let’s not forget Matter’s foundation is HomeKit and the level of security and privacy are being forced upon venders because of Apple. Regardless Matter did cause tons of reliability issues, lag, and frankly headaches. I miss HomeKit pre-Matter era, it was much more reliable and fast.
Thanks! I think we are saying mostly the same thing.
But I beg to differ - HomeKit has always been very buggy. Matter is only making things worse, in the short-term, but the underlying fundamental flaws in HomeKit have been pushed into Matter (because Apple is a driving force for Matter and contributed a lot of the tech design and some of the code). So I am hopeful the other Matter parters will be less tolerant of the bugs and eventually force the clean-up of all the inherited technical debt.
On the privacy side, I did try to make the point that I truly value the privacy/security emphasis by Apple, but now that they have been a multi-billion dollar company for many years, they need to stop trying to "play the privacy card" whenever their products and tech are subpar. They, uniquely, have piles of cash and can figure out innovative ways to do both - fix all the problems, offer more features/support, and maintain or improve privacy/security while doing so.