Lobola Should Not Be Determined By Qualifications

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  • Опубликовано: 7 мар 2024
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  • @kamphinga
    @kamphinga 3 месяца назад +63

    Lobola is really an interesting topic. A month ago, uncles and I went to pay lobola on behalf of my brother, we were charged way less than what we expected but what stood up for me was the chess game during the negotiation. Some families understand the real meaning of lobola.

    • @tshepisomalebye3657
      @tshepisomalebye3657 3 месяца назад +5

      I'm curious about the insights...🤔

    • @RedditDailyC
      @RedditDailyC 3 месяца назад

      What's your perceived real meaning of Lobola

    • @annmhlongo6053
      @annmhlongo6053 Месяц назад

      We were also surprised when my brother was charged next to nothing, kanti it was for a good reason... They obviously wanted to get rid of her, mathata fela😂

    • @tshepisomalebye3657
      @tshepisomalebye3657 Месяц назад +2

      @annmhlongo6063 eh hehehe eish...
      So your brother didn't notice "mathata fela" during the relationship?
      Or didn't you pick it up and give your brother a 'heads up'

    • @onkekweyama6021
      @onkekweyama6021 Месяц назад

      ​@@annmhlongo6053😂😂😂😂😂

  • @LM-he7eb
    @LM-he7eb 3 месяца назад +29

    The idea that a man is tested when he is broke is warped. A man's character is tested when he has money

    • @Wish_To_Learn
      @Wish_To_Learn 3 месяца назад

      Yeah men are humbled when they are broke until they get their money right. I think they meant to say a woman’s loyalty is tested when the man is broke

    • @simonmahlangu923
      @simonmahlangu923 3 месяца назад +9

      When a man is broke its the woman's character that is tested. When a man has money, it's his character that is being tested.

    • @aliceefuntayo6941
      @aliceefuntayo6941 Месяц назад +3

      I agree.. because some people don't have certain levels of effontrey because their pockets don't allow or give them access to exhibit that level of effontrey... there's a lot of fake humility going around 😅

  • @Wish_To_Learn
    @Wish_To_Learn 3 месяца назад +32

    The fact that you guys express from a point of logic and facts is the amazing part unlike other podcasts where most opinions come from emotional scars.

  • @lihlemsutfu7166
    @lihlemsutfu7166 3 месяца назад +36

    Ursula is a really beautiful woman… so intelligent too, what a combo. I love TCC so much

  • @keabetswemokwena7498
    @keabetswemokwena7498 3 месяца назад +10

    People are not dishonest. There is a huge difference between a stranger who asks you out on a date to get to know and a stranger who upon seeing you for the first time, declares their undying love for you.

  • @ezilemendu4400
    @ezilemendu4400 3 месяца назад +20

    Struggling to focus on her good content podcasts because, this lady she's just so beautiful

  • @jeansophia2092
    @jeansophia2092 Месяц назад +1

    I love episodes where you have Guests but conversations between 3 of you guys 👌🏽👌🏽they unmatched ❤

  • @leratorosemary9513
    @leratorosemary9513 3 месяца назад +8

    It's my first time tuning into this podcast and I'm intrigued. You guys seem to have interesting views, so glad I was here.

  • @Naledi_22
    @Naledi_22 3 месяца назад +21

    On the lobola topic, my dad once told us girls that he would never accept an amount that he himself could not withdraw at the atm 😅 so yeah, families are different.

    • @tshidisomosoeu
      @tshidisomosoeu 3 месяца назад +1

      Meaning? He would charge more than accepted?

    • @LM-he7eb
      @LM-he7eb 3 месяца назад +11

      @@tshidisomosoeu Meaning he will charge money that he knows he can pay back at a moment's notice

  • @Kobotian
    @Kobotian 2 месяца назад +5

    Being in a toxic environment causes one to be on edge all the time because they are on survival mode and when the toxicity is taken away you dont even know how to behave. Its uncomfortable, its hard re-learning how to feel safe and frankly some people never quite learn to be

  • @kamphinga
    @kamphinga 3 месяца назад +6

    Almost every guy has be friend zoned but what worse is being family zoned.

  • @pho977
    @pho977 2 месяца назад +2

    This channel e monate! Diantsha straight! Shoutout to Ursula for that braided hairstyle. I can't remember the last time I saw a woman braid her hair like that. New subscriber🔥

  • @shaunhlatshwayo9832
    @shaunhlatshwayo9832 3 месяца назад +3

    Given is smart 💫🔥

  • @mmapoomaredi7799
    @mmapoomaredi7799 2 месяца назад +1

    I agree with Given and Bonga on the "friend approach" because if someone comes to me and declares friendship, I will not allow myself to see you as more than a friend.... TCC for life❤❤❤ ke le rata ke sa ikhutse

  • @redibonemohlamonyane6239
    @redibonemohlamonyane6239 3 месяца назад +2

    I love Given, his wisdom. "How easy should it be for you to move on to the next person?"

  • @mthokozisithalente8736
    @mthokozisithalente8736 3 месяца назад +2

    The gost guy I like his perspective actually the balance in the conversation is superb...

  • @bigthangz5489
    @bigthangz5489 3 месяца назад +3

    im fascinated when watching women multitask.
    watch how ursula is doing her makeup without missing a beat in the convo..
    yall know that we men struggle with multitasking😨

  • @orapelengtawana3287
    @orapelengtawana3287 3 месяца назад +5

    make up and convos is quite a beautiful ASMR. please keep it up

  • @Wish_To_Learn
    @Wish_To_Learn 3 месяца назад +10

    First time watching this podcast. I like how the guy can speak about men and women differences without leaning towards one gender. The aim is to understand and not to bash each other.

  • @nosimphiwembenge9376
    @nosimphiwembenge9376 2 месяца назад +1

    Watching this in my early 20s is such a blessing ❤ So thought provoking. I have a lot to consider going forward.

  • @bhekisibiluane4030
    @bhekisibiluane4030 2 месяца назад +2

    Given really played on that insecurity reverse psychology brilliant.

  • @leratononyane8515
    @leratononyane8515 2 месяца назад +3

    Regarding toxic work places, the consistent distrust of your own skill , experience and knowledge as well as everyone at the office from bosses to colleagues. I do not share personal details at the office ever- not wins/ struggles / joys etc because in the toxic workplace before where I am now even being a mother was weaponised and “friends” of over 5 years provided nuances using my personal life to fuel the workplace mobbing.

  • @gugulethu4155
    @gugulethu4155 3 месяца назад +2

    Enterested topic.. would be great to have a unbiased knowledgeable elder be a guest to expand on such important topic...love the platform.

  • @leratomaphosa4917
    @leratomaphosa4917 3 месяца назад +8

    I would definitely like a more in depth episode on friendzoning😅
    Just talking on how things can get real murky. Guys being told to your face gore "hai I like you as a friend not like that" is rough 😅

  • @efficientrealities960
    @efficientrealities960 3 месяца назад +1

    Looking forward to watching ! Liked and subscribed 🎉

  • @mokaulengwesouthafrica9409
    @mokaulengwesouthafrica9409 2 месяца назад +1

    The rise of Africa is eminent . U all beautiful too like no bitterness just beuty. Thanks does great for our mental health ❤❤❤

  • @my_animal_free_plate
    @my_animal_free_plate 3 месяца назад +4

    Material expectations have always been there. Previously, mainly for the men. But now that women can also accumulate our own material wealth, this puts men who aren’t rich/well off at a disadvantage. Women want a man who has a lot, because women also have a lot. As a woman who’s got a car, a home, rental apartment, retirement annuity, all kinds of insurances, it’s sensible to want a man who’s got MORE than you. So men have not caught up to this. And this is a very general statement 😅

  • @miss.n6582
    @miss.n6582 3 месяца назад +1

    Ursula o pila maan! Wang disturber. I have to rewind and rewatch every epsiode so that I can learn becuase shem, i cannot get used to your fave and voice. So soothing. I would pay big bucks just to look at you.
    Anyway: big ups team. Your ingsights are always so refreshing.
    As for me, I have agreed with my dad that i will go on probation ya 3months nyana before we can finalise (i.e. Donorrr the lobola.
    On a serious note. Both partners need to discuss their finances. The female should give the partner a ball park figure to work around. Then again culture this and that.. Yhuuu. Tricky. Each to their own.
    Love and light fam❤

  • @shediprocofilms
    @shediprocofilms 3 месяца назад +4

    37:01 - It's true. from the first meet up! or first sight!

  • @AM-yk1vt
    @AM-yk1vt 3 месяца назад +2

    I agree with Ursula on this one. There is nothing more beautiful than a friendship which turns into a relationship. Its just more organic nothing is forced no one needs convincing. Even the people around you will start calling you a couple and will always ask whats going on between those two because they can see it in the way you treat each other its obvious the love is there. The reason why society is so rotten is because women fall in love with strangers and then get surprised that this person you called your boyfriend after 2 weeks of knowing is a serial what ever. Its better to know someone and it not work than to bring a stranger into your life only to find out you have invited evil onto your bed unknowingly.

  • @thulimsimango3696
    @thulimsimango3696 3 месяца назад +2

    Hi guys! Question for the friendzone episode: Say you date someone and you guys end the relationship and genuinely become friends (Like Ursula was saying that friendships are the best foundation for relationships- but sometimes you just need to stay friends). How do you navigate the friendship when you enter a new relationship? Are there special boundaries or will it depend on how long ago you dated? Do you explain to your partner, the boundaries in place and they rock with it or is it maybe time to sever ties for as long as you're in a relationship?

  • @ozneim
    @ozneim 3 месяца назад +1

    Really enjoyed this conversation🫶🏾

  • @vellymtsweni8025
    @vellymtsweni8025 3 месяца назад +1

    First time subscribing to a channel because of a beautiful woman

  • @mg_slang
    @mg_slang 3 месяца назад +2

    Amalobolo is an old tradition that existed before “qualification”. It has always been a standard of twelve cows.
    If the bride had been involved in some activities or group in her neighbourhood, it meant that she would expect more people to come to her wedding, more people to cater for during the wedding. therefore that had to be considered during Amalobolo.

  • @thamimaimela2471
    @thamimaimela2471 3 месяца назад +1

    I love these get ready with me episode! We definitely need a friendzone episode!

  • @kchabangu
    @kchabangu 2 месяца назад +1

    Where is your self-worth outside the money, I would hate for something to you financially and you no longer know how to love me. You no longer know how to be a man, you no longer know how to be a father.
    Beautiful statement

  • @wandamabunga
    @wandamabunga 3 месяца назад +1

    What Given says at 33:15 is so true ! And the crazy part is that when you approach a lady that you find cute but aren't interested in, your rizz is so great that you're even shocked. She likes you instantly and now because you were just testing out your rizz, you don't feel the same way. But when it's someone you actually like, kuyabheda shame.

  • @JOSEPH-is7wp
    @JOSEPH-is7wp 3 месяца назад +1

    Gezzz Joseph the Zambian lad yet again. Interesting conversation this one has been guys I literally had to park by the road side just to put in this comment 😂. So firstly I think Given misunderstood Ursula's 'do guys know that they love a lady from the get go'.
    Well in all honesty I think we do know. I'm 30 and have been in love twice and both times I knew it from the get go despite both situations not working out for various reasons. But where Givens answer comes in is that we never know from the get go if it will work out.
    And as for lobola, I think the problem is that we have commercialized it. Cause you find people charging as much as 67K just for lobola when it was actually just supposed to be symbolic

  • @anathizaza9068
    @anathizaza9068 2 месяца назад

    Ush ha.a we need to see Bonga mara haibo, the team is sooooo right like Gift defends us very well there even Bonga can relate ❤❤ pleas record more

  • @The_Third_Place
    @The_Third_Place 3 месяца назад +2

    i will say men observe long enough to know if youre worth the try. we know because we've seen the way you move.

  • @ndudashme7541
    @ndudashme7541 3 месяца назад +4

    Guys I think I am inlove 🥺

  • @kgautakhanye9790
    @kgautakhanye9790 3 месяца назад +2

    The rule that lobola had to be 11 cows was introduced by colonial Natal Secretary of Native Affairs Theophilus Shepstone on the Zulu Nation in the 1800s.
    “Complaints have been raised and there are people who want the practice to be scratched or reviewed.

    • @tshepisomalebye3657
      @tshepisomalebye3657 3 месяца назад +1

      Wow!!! Oh okay interesting. Do you have an idea on how things were done prior?

  • @itamworld-yd8le
    @itamworld-yd8le 2 месяца назад +2

    I have one question guys please answer, what is purpose of mjolo from african lens not with western modern perceptive.Maybe is because i live in kzn in the village..Help!!!

  • @MATT-kw1ip
    @MATT-kw1ip 10 дней назад

    Very interesting girl, you were miles away during the discussion hahahah😅

  • @mongezimkula7246
    @mongezimkula7246 2 месяца назад +1

    Nna I just want to say that men do "know" when they meet "the" woman. It happens. But this does not rule out other ways of falling in love with a person (like falling hard for someone after having known them for a while). Because, remember, everyone has a type. So you could meet someone, and on that first day your realize that this person's energy matches yours. Their behaviour, their mindset (reasoning), interests and more, all (if not most) match yours. You immediately fall in love with this person. Especially if that person had caught your attention at first glance to begin with. See? Yeah, So I think that's what they mean by "Men knowww when they meet the right woman".

  • @julietmatsobane2155
    @julietmatsobane2155 3 месяца назад +3

    Who does Ursula's hair modimo❤️‍🔥🔥🔥🔥👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

  • @fordesire9546
    @fordesire9546 3 месяца назад +1

    Urs hey. I'd just like to know what the brow ink you use is

  • @Abnerra1
    @Abnerra1 2 месяца назад +3

    why are we not seeing the other to people talking? i felt like i was watching some sort of make up show. lol

  • @petetshepo
    @petetshepo 3 месяца назад +2

    @Given - I disagree, it has happened to me that thing were you see a woman and be like I wanna marry her. First I laid my eye on her...

  • @mphomatlala9182
    @mphomatlala9182 3 месяца назад +1

    No, we do know...

  • @mabutibebula6290
    @mabutibebula6290 2 месяца назад

    I agree with Bonga... on friendzone topic... We r scared to loose an opportunity to hv a patner by proposing through friendship.

  • @oziomadede-konkwo4956
    @oziomadede-konkwo4956 2 месяца назад +1

    You are so beautiful!!!!

  • @bigthangz5489
    @bigthangz5489 3 месяца назад +1

    are you gud ppl housrmates ? im newish to this channel.

  • @jeansophia2092
    @jeansophia2092 Месяц назад

    Mara Bonga mara 😂😅😂😅😂😅😂

  • @sibulelepoto442
    @sibulelepoto442 3 месяца назад +1

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @patricknkosi5412
    @patricknkosi5412 3 месяца назад +1

    For me friendzoning is a ticking bomb! Because one of these 2 people want the other! How would he or she feel when the other Is being PDAed infront of him or her, like the guy said as a man you will be mocked! Ukuthi ubambe ikhandlela😅

  • @zammyzee8073
    @zammyzee8073 3 месяца назад +1

    Round 2 wa friend zone please 😂

  • @thembelihlegazu8187
    @thembelihlegazu8187 3 месяца назад +1

    Uhhhhh😢 "Who you are outside your money" I struggle with dating bcs I am unemployed, I feel like that affects my standards, could be bcs I've put waaayy too much value on being
    being employed and making money. Yes finances are important but they shouldn't be the the core of who you are!!

    • @mpumimdluli5894
      @mpumimdluli5894 3 месяца назад +1

      In an ideal perfect world money shouldn't be a determining factor for whether to get into a relationship with someone or not but unfortunately the world we living in today is very materialistic and you can't ignore it, it's all over everywhere if you don't have money it's impossible to be happy and if you are not happy you can't make someone else happy. A little mistake they do you'd think it's because you don't have money, just one crazy statement can turn into a serious argument " oh you saying that because..." How ever it is possible and there are couples who are broke and happy or one of them is unemployed and broke but they are trully happy and making it work but it's very rare

    • @thembelihlegazu8187
      @thembelihlegazu8187 3 месяца назад +1

      Bonga actually did say that it can make you see things that are not there... I get what you are saying

  • @samkelisiwengwenya7168
    @samkelisiwengwenya7168 2 месяца назад +1

    the guy sounds like the Naked Dj

  • @ulwandon
    @ulwandon 3 месяца назад +1

    My guy, once you become friends with a female you never coming out of it, i think i understand umjita and the other lady... Hence we have ooMale bestie is because of not genuine friendship with males/females..

  • @ridodzulanetshiavha349
    @ridodzulanetshiavha349 3 месяца назад +1

    Can I please be your friend Miriani😂😂😂

  • @ontlametsemogorosi
    @ontlametsemogorosi Месяц назад

    Bathong cousin yago got the job🥹🔥❤️

  • @boipelommileng
    @boipelommileng 3 месяца назад +2

    Friend-zone is complicated ahh!
    I think Urs is taking it from a feminine mindset of thoughtfulness and emotions. Men approach coz they're sexually attracted to you. With that in mind, would he care about knowing you if most of the time that's not the intention??
    He wants the goods, it starts there. That's where ghosting comes in and all the complications of "mjolo". He will not reject the opportunity to bed you just coz he got to know you and you're not really his cup of tea.
    Be safe out there people.😂😂😂

  • @NjabuloHlela
    @NjabuloHlela 3 месяца назад +6

    This a good podcast. She ruins it by doing make up during the show. Other than the makeup, I enjoy it.

    • @Khulu_Zebra
      @Khulu_Zebra Месяц назад

      She is beautiful without makeup 🔥❤️

  • @TonyMrBoring
    @TonyMrBoring 3 месяца назад +1

    Are those hosts speaking Zulu?

  • @bigthangz5489
    @bigthangz5489 3 месяца назад +1

    yall all do know that lobola was determined by virginity right?

  • @sibusisocossa5711
    @sibusisocossa5711 2 месяца назад

    guys but you ddnt talk much about lobola though

  • @lukhanyisobrukwe5980
    @lukhanyisobrukwe5980 3 месяца назад +2

    Sis Urs got rizz😍

  • @freshTiza
    @freshTiza 2 месяца назад +2

    Can we see the others. You have a Large male Audience who don’t want to see Make up tutorials

  • @senzoliberty94
    @senzoliberty94 3 месяца назад +3

    Lebo I like your show but you behave like you are in Big brother we are watching you buzzy with your face the whole time it's shift the concentration to topics please fix it otherwise love the you big up cc

  • @tlhomphomatabane8632
    @tlhomphomatabane8632 3 месяца назад +1

    you single?