VX220 Turbo Here is why Radicals should be banned from Track days
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Here is a clear demonstration why Radicals should be banned from Track days and only allowed on Test Days. The drivers are not up to the job and they overtake in ridiculous places like the Apex of Graham Hill at Brands. This guy was obviously a track day first timer but who would let someone so incapable out in a car like that? A menace to everyone else and a danger to themselves. Marshals were due a share of criticism too - they wasn't a single waved blue the whole 2 laps. Later that day the Radical did the same thing again! If you get cut up by a faster car its because they have been stuck behind these kinds of fools.
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Nothing to do with Radicals - it was the driver.
That was painfully obvious
you could have easily driven through the pits and given yourself some space. Not everyone is an expert track driver like you.
I'm certainly not an expert at track days, mediocre at best, much less an expert at actual race driving, which a track day is not... But... While true, he could go through the pits and lose his lap (I feel terrible for you guys in the UK for the prices charged.. Robbery..), wouldn't it be better, safer etc if everyone just abided by the rules laid out by the marshalls in the pre event meetings....
Or here's a crazier idea... People could be realistic about their driving experience and get a little better beginners car than mid or high spec Radical...
I know they sell lower spec radicals for us mortals but I've never seen one at track day lol.
Indeed but the testosterone got in the way and prevented such a consideration.
This guy was probably on a driving experience or something. You can't blame the car for the driving!!!
Nah James its the cars fault, it was driving itself!
It doesn't matter what the car is, if the moron behind the wheel didn't listen in the driver's briefing or is just determined to be a complete twat, then it spoils it for everyone.
Cars BRAKE before they enter a corner after going past the Radical... Who cares what the cost of the track day is, he paid his money he can drive on it. And so what if it was his first track day there and he didn't know the track? If he wants to build a radical to start track days why is it any of your business? So in your eyes everyone should be banned from driving a half decent car on track days until they are experts? He wasn't driving flat out and causing a danger as I could see, just taking it cautious and a little new to the rules maybe. Everyone has to start somewhere and it isn't a race, so why not just chill out and get off of his back? Some guy puts some money and passion into something, then for all you know it's his dream to build that car and do some track days, and someone with a bad attitude like you then hounds him, intimidates him and maybe puts him off? Jesus, why do people always get so aggressive and shitty when it comes to driving...
+Steve BladeSounds still shouldnt be on the track ruining it for others. if he wants to crawl around stick to the road. People go to track days to push there cars to the limits not be stuck behind some prat that drives like a Sunday driver. But if that were me stuck behind it i would of just over took it
The rule here is simple: if someone catches up with you, then you should allow that person to overtake as they are obviously going more quickly. The driver in front is driving badly. This is a day to enjoy oneself - not a race - the objective is to have fun and drive home in one piece. It is not the car, it is the driver. For Radical read any other super-quick vehicle. Stephen Timms
I think that every blue car on track should be banned from track days. No matter who is the driver.
Sorry. This is a driver problem not a car problem.
Really unfortunate to try to suggest that the car is to blame...could be said about any fast car with bad driver.
The radical should have moved over yes but the more grown up thing to do is have a little word with the trackday organisers and they would pull him/her in for a chat to educate then everyones happy.
Or just go into his garage at lunch break and let the tyres down lol.
Bignumtt love your videos man
After half a lap of drag down the straights and slow turns I just lag a single straight on the right and let them go then like magic you have your line back. It's not hard.
Cheaper than starting a 2 car race on a track day and one of you collecting up the other when the tempers rise along with the speed. Did cost me a front bumper to learn that lesson though.
He, would be better off learning in something like a 106 imo.
driver not car
Fair play, it ruins it when other people don't play by the rules, I did a track day at donnington when I had a peugeot 106 rallye and had some tool in an mx5 behaving exactly the same way, I was all over him in the corners and just, just, had a bit more speed in the straight but never enough to fully pass him, so eventually I did what you did and just got my nose in front on the long straight before the start finish straight and carved him up on the chicane, he gradually disappeared into the distance in my rear view mirror.
It must be a huge burden of responsibility for you to be such a brilliant driver who has never been a learner - just a virtuoso since birth.
I love the Radicals but I can respect this statement. However there must be some responsibilities related to the drivers of the Radicals not just the cars?
Some people full of money can buy and drive those amaizing Radical cars, but skills can't be purchased !
Mate!, Thats motorsport. He's giving you some shit lines to deal with but its your job to asses and go round. You only pissed off cause he has similar power to you and he can't drive as well as you. I would be chuffed if someone was giving me some hassle.
M4Mike must be right - Radicals were banned just after this.....
sometimes it takes a few xtra corners to move over because your late to realize Im holding shit up...but theres no excuse to have absolutely zero track awareness
it is just a track day and now a race
Just pass him, why wouldn't you, fairly positive the marshals would be on your side.
It’s a track day not a race
He was not watching in his mirrors just mucking about so not worth the risk. Radicals move very quickly...
Well in for just doing them; very frustrating indeed!
He paid his money as well. You could've very easily pitted and created a gap. That being said the track workers should have been flagging this driver to allow quicker cars to pass. So no let's not ban radicals.
There were a lot of problems with this sort of driving back then. He wasn't even checking his mirrors so I dare not overtake.
Pull into pitlane, tell organiser, pull out again. You get one slow lap, but everyone else gets safer session. Done it before.
What does this have to do with radical... anyone can fix a taillight and drive properly
why didn't you just over take? could have done loads of times...
+Ian Heywood did you read the big white text on the screen?
+raidkoast. yes, but you've leant heavily on the rules to exercsie that chip on your shoulder. You could have got past him numerous times or made an attempt at passing which was perfectly safe. Overtaking a slower car and racing aren't the same thing.
Ian Heywood
Maybe it is so.. But I do understand the drivers frustration toward the Radical.
What's with people having a go at the driver of the following car (poster of the video I assume)? Motorsport is dangerous, someone like this in the radical with no awareness (or care) of what's going on around them isn't annoying, it's irresponsible and dangerous. They should be shown the black flag and reeducated before being allowed back out.
Shouldn´t be harder than to go and talk to the driver after the session and explain what he was doing wrong, everyone wants value for their money so mutual understanding and cooperation is the key... usualy. :)
It must have been clear to you that the driver of the Radical was, at best, a complete novice based only on the lines taken. Not a single apex, not a single braking point. It's a nonsense to suggest that on the basis of this that Radicals should be banned from trackdays. Give yourself a drive through to gain some track space and enjoy the session or pull in and report it to the TDO. And yes, I drive a Radical on track days....but not that one. I do understand how frustrating it can be though.
That is one shocking driver...
We've all come across people like this on track days - why are you suggesting that people like that are exclusive to Radicals? Seems a bit strange. On the last track day I did I got stuck behind a Caterham that wouldn't let me past - just go with a good track day provider like I did and they just black flag them after a lap or two and you're through - easy.
go you vx220!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The guys a knob but it is nothing to do wit the fact that he's driving a radical
Live 10 mins from snet and see this all the time the guy wasn't paying attention and probably getting used to the car. Happens in much more expensive cars too be patient it's a track day not le.mans..
I need a glossary....
All you had to do was a stop and go in the pits and you probably wouldn't have seen the Radical for the rest of the session. In stead, you just sat up his arse and cried salty tears.
You are the sharpest tool in the tool box. I will give you that.
Except..... there were 10+ cars queued waiting to get on the track. A pit drive thru would have lost the entire session. Were you driving the Radical?
@@Stuber9077 nope, wasn't me.
I am sorry, but this seems obvious: blame the driver and not the car. This is stereotyping and is wrong as it does not get to the root of the problem. Safety is always the first consideration. If an idiot refuses to let you by, wait, or go in. The event sponsors should deal with this problem quickly. If they do not, find another venue.
In his defense you can't see shit out of the rear view mirrors. But either way you should spend less time moaning and more time getting on with the job of driving past him.
This is exactly what is wrong with track days. People like you. What if it was his first time on track in a new car? What if he wasn't the driving god that you yourself appear to think you are? What if you exit then come back on track in a different position? Track marshals will wave a Blue Flag (if they're any good) and he should let you pass. There are many different skill levels on a track day. It isn't a race, and people like you, hounding the car ahead and flashing your lights, would normally be asked to leave the track for a period. If I saw your behaviour like in this instance, i'd exit the track and ask the marshalls to black flag you for a while. It's not a race. Everyone is entitled to drive at their ability level. Yes it can be frustrating. If you want to race, go race. Track days are not the place to drive like a clown. Sorry but you're in the wrong this time. Oh and for saying ALL radicals should be banned from trackways? Really? Maybe all VX220's should be banned for having knob heads driving them? Or is that a sweeping unfair statement? Grow up.
should of stayed in his slipstream on the straights
You only get 40 laps in an entire track day? LOL wow.
40 is a lot. Sessions are usually 15-20 minutes long, 3-4 sessions in a day. There are multiple groups so the track doesn't have too much traffic and like-skilled drivers are out together.
@@dereksroomrepair I get closer to 60.
@feedemtothepigserrol2469 I guess lap times will drive that too, I'm in the US so Watkins Glen and Pitt Race are around 2 minutes, Mid-Ohio around 1 and a half
@@dereksroomrepair That's a fair point. The tracks I used to go to are all in the minute and a half range. Sebring is more like two and a half.
This guy should not be on a race track, let alone on one with a Radical, his driving skill and awareness is non existent. It is nothing to do with the radical, it is just a twat who happens to own one.
Had this at a driving experience day, dude in an Aston Martin wouldn't get out of my way, pushed him around every corner for 2 laps, its ignorant and rude
Just bcos he dusted u bro u got pissed on
One person means all radicals should be banned!!!! lol
Use horn.... easy lol
In this video: terrible driving.
Haha! Why don’t you get a better car and overtake it quickly! Looser 😜