It blows my mind that people are so concerned about how painful a death will be for a murderer. The woman he murdered was not given that kind of courtesy. He didn't care how scared she was. He didn't care about how much pain she was living through before she was murdered.
He didn’t care about the pain that he put his victims through. We as people care what he put his victims through, to not care what he might go through says a lot about a person. If you have the capacity to truely care what another is going through it cannot be subjective! You can’t pick and choose, turn it off or on. It’s either one or the other. Not caring makes a person just as bad as he is, who really wants to be like that? And why?
It's odd, isn't it? Would the same people who turned up to this vigil have stood outside the courthouse for the victim who was violated with a knife in front of her children? I understand a deep disgust of a life for a life, but I also feel it's incredibly disrespectful to the family of the victim to protest the end of a person who did this kind of thing. The woman who died is never coming back. The child who was assaulted will never recover from those scars. I feel as if we're so desensitised to societal violence from these inter-species predators, that unless it's our family member, we can't muster the energy to care too deeply. But having this man removed from our planet is not a loss, or a tragedy. It's a net good.
A vigil for WHO? How tasteless & awful-- could you not find anyone else to perform "vigils" for? I consider that a slap in the face to this monster's victims.
To discuss the inhumanity of these drugs but the suffering of that poor woman and child being sexually assaulted are not mentioned..now we talking of inhumanity
The victim didn't get a peaceful sleep she was tortured and subjected to extreme pain and fear .... talk more about the victim and not this demon in the flesh
@@frezurmind I wholeheartedly agree, it makes me absolutely sick when they talk about their cruel and unusual punishment. What about the victim she died very violently
Exactly. It costs way more. But. I do think we need the process for people that are wrongfully convicted. They need chances to get out. That’s why it takes them several years.
@@RoniShawnIt does cost more because of appeals. It’s disgusting to set a person up who is innocent but even more so to not be willing to overturn it because of ego. And how bad it looks for LE, state, etc. Although, I think 24 years is too long.
Keeping this murderer on death row for 25 years is absurd. This murderer showed no mercy for the woman he brutally murdered. Keeping him on death row for 25 years is not justice.
It is doubtful that his wait to be executed for 25 years was in fact 'living' or that he had good enjoyment of life. His agony each day in waiting on when his last day would come was punishing in itself and was reducing any hope for his life being spared.
@@phyllishannah7203 do you realize there are more men on Utahs death row who have been there for almost 40 years? Look up Ralph Menzies, Michael Archuleta, douglas Lovell, troy kell, von lester & doug carter. Everyone but Troy Kell have been on death row since the 80’s. Honie went in the late 90’s. Honies crime was horrible. However, watch Gladiator Days about Troy Kell. I believe it is on youtube. Hes a white supremicist that killed in vegas when he was 18 in the 80’s. Moved in a relocate prisoner program to Gunnison. And brutally in the most awful way possible masterminded and stabbed a black inmate 67 times. A few of those in his face. It was caught on prison cameras. The inmate he killed had his hands cuffed and couldnt defend himself. After Troy was done, he was super proud of his accomplishment. Talking about “white power popping off in here”. He even told people he was going to win an academy award for his performance during his trial. Meaning he would fake remorse. Doug Lovell, raped a woman from Ogden, Utah in the 80’s. Then kidnapped and killed her later to prevent her from testifying against him. They have never found her body. Then lets move on to Ralph Menzies. He is rumored to have kidnapped a young mother working nights at a gas station. Taking her in the mountains and killing her. Then leaving her body at some picnic area. Michael Archuleta is the one whose story is one, if not the worst. That i do not even want to mention it on here. I dont know much about the others two. So, he got 25 years while these others are still breathing. Who also did terrible terrible things. But they are still alive. Where is the justice for their victims?
When they give out the death penalty they should also set the date of execution lets say in 5 years time ! That's plenty of time for there lawyers to appeal the decision , and if they CANNOT come up with a valid reason to spare there clients life ? well too bad the condemned take's the 3 foot drop !
@@sheepsfoot2Since we can objectively state that five years is not long enough, well then "too bad" for all the innocent folks! Can you imagine if you were in charge 😳 🤣
nogenta também é esse bando de que por falta do que fazer na vida ficam com essa palhaçada defendendo esse filho da puta..vamos vê quando um igual a esse monstro que eles estão defendendo pegar a filha oi a irmã de alguns desses idiotas que defendem assassinos se eles também vão ficar fazendo palhaçada na rua..
@@phyllishannah7203 Truly, except hoping for high level leader pardoning, little if any chance for freedom. Waiting for execution can not be a walk in the park but anticipation --each day-- of death.
@@TheJingles007unless you were a victim of a crime yourself, people like you will never understand. Just like the guy in Florida that had a severe nosebleed in the electric chair and all the advocates cried about it. What I thought about was what he did to that family he slaughtered
I wouldn't really say that. He had 23 years to reflect on what he has done and in the end it didn't matter because he was going to die anyways. That last year must have been hell for him knowing death was at his door.
Death penalty is a DISGRACE, its early prison release. This man is a sick evil person. He should suffer in a cage for his natural life. Not given early release from the cage. The victim deserves better than this guy having no more punishment. Now hes out of prison and his suffering is over. makes me angry guy. peace and love
@@konaskreations You think so? Too many Democrats around you, perhaps. That's a bizarre level of trust in our government. Well-known for their flawless operation. Look up a few of the innocent people who sat on death row for literally nothing & were unlawfully robbed of *decades* of their life.
The only thing thats unfair about this is he gets to pass peacefully...put to sleep ..what about his victim ...there was nothing peaceful about what he did to her ...and that poor baby girl ...We definitely need the death penalty in every country ...
@@edithmahoney9094 because we do not live in the BCE era. This is not an eye for an eye situation. If we start barbarically killing the same way they killed their victims. Then how are we as a society any different than this man? It is thinking like that, that shows me how much we have declined as a world.
@@arvi8843I think you'll find after investigating what some of these murderers have done, there will be quite a few that would volunteer. Your forgetting the PTSD that the police go through from seeing the results of people like him.
@@stephanielloyd4053 That's barbaric. This isn't Middle East. US is a Christian nation. You don't have to become the monster that they are in order to achieve justice.
People never seem to understand LWOP is cheaper than the death penalty. They have a long process to go through that takes YEARS before they are put to death.
it’s a slap in the face to the families of the victims that these animals are allowed to live that long on Death row!!!…..a travesty!!….. judicial system is broken!!😡😡😡😡😡😡
I don't know if I agree with the death penalty. However, the defense attorney comments about how the killer was young and drug-addicted. There are plenty of young drug addicts that don't kill a friend by beating them, slashing her throat and sexually assaulting her with a knife. Its an insult to people with substance issues.
Not sure if it’s true, I will have to fact check it, but someone commented that the murderer was born drug addicted. That doesn’t give him a free pass to do as he pleases though.
It is not a choice. Some people will drink alcohol and become violent, some people will drink alcohol and become placid. The same applies to drugs. Some people will take no drugs or alcohol and do horrific murders. It is because their brain is wired in a different way. You do not have a choice in how your brain is wired. You do not deserve credit because you take drugs and do not murder people. You are born with a brain wired not to kill people. In the same way you cannot blame people who do murder people and do unspeakable acts. You and I should consider ourselves fortunate. We could not cut someone's genitals open and have sex with them. It is revolting and not even possible for us to do anything like that. Even the thought of it makes us feel sick. If you are born with a miswired brain there is nothing you can do about it. You might find it difficult to feel sorry for those people, but casting blame or hatred on them does not make sense. Just be thankful none of your family become either the victim or the perpetrator of a crime like this.
I'm Irish living in Ireland. I used to think that nobody has the right to put a sentence of the death penalty on any person. But I spend a lot of time listening to interrogations, court cases and parole hearings from the US. I now think that hell isn't going to be hot enough for the monsters who go way beyond the actions of murder. If someone flips out instantly and kills someone by shooting or stabbing them. Those killers deserve life sentences. But when you listen to the depraved and downright evil like this monster. Who took more than the life of the girl that night. By mutilating and disrespecting her body, that's where I have changed my mind about the death penalty. I hope that his spirit will never have rest. He is a monster and a scumbag. There is absolutely no excuse for the painful and torturous death he gave this innocent woman. I hope that her family will have a sense of closure, even though that will never be enough. There are some cases I think that the perpetrator should leave this world in the same way his victim left the world. I don't know why the process takes so long between sentences and punishments. I hope that her spirit will now be free. 🇮🇪
So in Ireland there aren't any crimes do yall have jails and prisons or is it the most peaceful place to live and all the people are sane perfect and loving I'm just wondering what type of place you live in where there's no crime no nothing going on
@@lovelife6609 There are plenty of crimes like any other country. The most violent ones are drug related, wannabe kingpins. Thank fully murder is not a daily occurrence. There are still problems with theft and burglaries. The prisons are sadly always full, not too much overcrowding but full. So far this year there has been 24 homicide recorded. There are crimes against women and children too. The one thing that I think keeps the crime rates lower than the US. Guns are not allowed unless they are for hunting. That doesn't mean that there are no guns in Ireland. The drug wannabe the toughest and most ruthless have managed to get their supply from somewhere. Thank you for asking.
@@lovelife6609In the USA are living the most (brutal) murderer, even though you have the death penalty😮 What's wrong in the USA? What's so effing wrong with your people's? 🤔
@@lovelife6609she's not saying that! She Ives in Ireland. I'm from Scotland. We don't have the DP here anymore. The last hanging was back in the 1950's the worst a murderer gets here is Life without Parole. With extended solitary confinement etc
Drugs should not be a valid excuse!!! When you choose to indulge in drugs or alcohol, you are 100 % accountable for your behavior. What a horrible death this woman suffered. My condolences to her family. My condolences to the family of the murderer. They are his victims as well!!!
@@jillijane9793 i agree with that. Especially since i am recovering addict. Ive never done anything like this or stolen etc. I was functioning and held a job even.
@@kridswonderhowell4541 there are currently 6 or 7 men on death row in Utah. Everyone but Honie and Kell have been there since the 80’s. Where is their victims justice? And all of them did terrible things. But they have been there almost as long as i have been breathing. Remember Ethan Stacey? That cute little boy whose mother and stepfather tortured, starved, killed, desecrated his body and buried him in the Ogden mountains back in 2010? And then pretended like he was kidnapped? Why didn’t they get the death penalty? What about the girl who met that black guy on a sugar daddy website and was killed, desecrated and then taken to the Logan mountains and buried, who was trying to employ a contractor to build him a dungeon for killing in his home. Why wasn’t he given the death penalty? Aren’t these as terrible? Come on! Honie did an unforgivable thing. It was beyond comprehension. However, there are many in prison here that are given life sentences instead of death for worse crimes than Honie.
@lulueusebia5789 yes, and the grandmother too (I saw on a news report) before he mutilated her...he blamed it on drugs and booze...guess what no excuse!
@@ronwade5646 i do not personally believe in hell. I am a believer in your actions in this life determine your next life. Reincarnation is real. I do not need to explain why i feel this way and you do not have to agree. However, Honie will understand and be taught something similar to his crime in his next incarnation. He will most likely be victimized in his next life. So, his soul will learn.
No sympathy. He gave the victims family LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE in their grieving. He should willing take his death sentence knowing what he did regardless of his pitiful excuses. Praying for the victim’s family.
Some drugs do, even the so called prescription drugs that is given to treat Bipolar or High blood pressure are experimental and used on regular people to see how it works for this occasion. I was given potassium infusion and it felt like lethal injection.
Of course his life has changed..in prison he detoxed and couldn't get drugs or alcohol...but did the VICTIMS life change ? How about the children who witnessed this horrific crime?? Let's focus on the VICTIM ..not the criminal and his woes...he chose to do it and now faces the CONSEQUENCES...ITS TIME FOLKS FACE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO DO and stop feeling bad for them...this guy did it and now deal with it
Well said!! We always hear about the accused’s constitutional rights, what about the victim’s constitutional rights? What about the living victim’s constitutional rights?
What about the 6 year old girl he SAd during the same event? That child, now adult, has to live with the trauma of that for their whole life! Not to mention, his own daughter was a witness and the victim was the grandmother of his own daughter!
If you truly focus on healing for the victims, as you claim, it has zero to do with anything outside of the victim. Truly dealing with ANYTHING in life has Jack Shit to do with what happens to a perp and EVERYTHING to do with what happens inside your own mind. Trust me, Karma will deal with the perpetrator.
Gentleman: a man who is polite and behaves well toward other people, especially women: He was a perfect gentleman. Calling this cold blooded killer a GENTLEMAN is beyond insane! I can't think of a more misapplied word. Does the narrator have any idea what the meaning of gentleman is? What part of murdering his victim is GENTLE?
What if he murdered someone in your family? You don't know what you're talking about. Take him home. Let his kind live with you. See for yourself. Open your eyes. Evil be gone. Not kept.
@@TheJingles007 You could suggest that any punishment given for any crime was vengeance by that measure. After all, there's no such thing as rehabilitation. It's about peace for the victims and making the world a safer, better, healthier place.
I’m Australian and sometimes wish that we still had this here, especially for the murder of children and law enforcement officers. We have a serial killer, Paul Denyer, who was up for parole a couple of years ago. Thankfully he didn’t get it but it’s a joke here!
@@ddubsmclovin see it’s ignorance and stupidity like your comment that makes me wonder how this world is ever going to get better. I don’t condone or support anything he did. However, I feel a worse punishment is living in a bathroom sized cell, with a mattress about 2 inches thick and a small blanket, eating gross food, seeing the same people over and over, that you can’t ever get away from, never seeing your family the way you want, having no choice to make of your own and being around your gender forever is far worse than death. I know you have a very simple mind and black/white thinking. However, I believe in reincarnation. I don’t care if you do or don’t. Your actions in this life will determine your fate of your next. So, believe me this isnt over for his soul. He will most likely become a victim of something similar in his next lifetime. So his soul will understand the actions he caused in his previous one. It must be so amazing to believe that you have the right to determine someone’s death or not. Or don’t see the hypocrisy in the death penalty. IT DOESNT DETER!
@@prometheusrex1 I know that’s true, and their greed for attention has resulting in too much information that is untrue, unsubstantiated, unbelievable, and unhelpful for the benefit of society. They have all graduated from the School of Yellow Journalism.
@@TheJingles007 Not so; consider Oklahoma as well. Utah should follow Texas and Oklahoma by vastly expediting the appeals process. The DP should be administered in every intentional case where there is irrefutable video evidence of guilt, DNA evidence of guilt, or a reliable confession. That would not only serve justice but also would deter others. We ought to have 10 times more of these in Utah--just like Oklahoma, which has had 125 DPs since 1982. By contrast, Utah has had only EIGHT.
What is barbaric is what the victim endured. Those protestors should think of that before sympathizing with someone who will be put to sleep peacefully and painlessly. A mercy he didn't grant his victim
They keep going on and on about him! What about what he did to his girlfriend mother! That was horrific! Protester are insults to the victim and the victim’s family.
I wish we had the DP here in the UK we have some inhuman beings here that I would gladly flip the switch on! And there is NO DOUBT these are the killers who did the horrible crimes, just take a look at recent murders in the south of UK then you will know, or the recent murders of three innocent children there should be no 27 years in prison on tax payers money for these dispicable crimes! These people who want the DP abolished are not thinking about the REAL victims here!
That is horrible what happened over there in the UK. My heartfelt condolences to all the victims, family, and friends here from Pennsylvania. No one can imagine that type of pain til it hits home. Prayers to the UK
It’s been going on for centuries. It doesn’t matter what part of the world you are in, evil will always exist. And obviously so will ignorance. Ignorant people who want to get rid of the Dp.
I agree with everyone. They have forgotten about the victims. My brother was murdered and I am strong on the death penalty. An eye for an eye. He got 27 more years to live than the victims. I am sure they didn't want to die that horrible death.
He got to spend his final moments with his family before being executed whereas the victims family will forever be robbed and scarred with the memory and knowledge in the manner of which their loved one were taken. Whether he was young and under the influence of drugs at the time is irrelevant. Ideally the victim's family deserves justice and should have the ultimate say in the criminal's fate.
Here is my take. If you live in a state that has the death penalty and you dont want to be on death row dont murder anyone. Honie made a conscious and willful choice to commit a gruesome murder. He knew that if he got caught he could face the death penalty yet he chose to do it anyway. He is suffering the consequences of his poor choices.
Poor and sad humans. Death Sentences should be carried out within 60 days and no appeals allowed. That would be a stronger deterrent. If folks know they dont get a whole lifetime to appeal.
we need to stop being so kind to a killer....where was his kindness to the innocent person he killed? he should have not had all these years to live unlike the victim ..stop pampering this guy and his feelings and put the victim and her family first!!!
Cruel and unusual???!!! This monster shouldn’t even be thought of as being cruel and unusual to him. He was a monstrous murderer. He did worse than torture that poor woman. She didn’t have a chance and he did unmentionable horrible torturous acts on this woman.
I used to be against the DP but over time I’ve learned just how depraved people can be. It’s changed my mind and I’ve come to believe some are beyond redemption
Life without parole means more money the tax payers have to pay, well in the UK it does. I'm sure, if the UK was brought back the DP, then i'm sure we would get swift justice
@@VitoAnthonyD.-ow7oo So they tell us that it takes a nearly microscopic amount of Fentanyl to kill someone. Why don't they use that? Police evidence lockers are full of it so they could get it for free.
That’s wild I was born in 98 I’m 26 now… my whole existence this family been waiting and waiting and mourning their loss… I couldn’t imagine that shit 😔
Wait so a person who sexually assaulted a woman with a knife, and countless other unthinkable acts, is being taken up for like he's s victim. Just get it over with already soon as the verdict comes in, done
“The fact that y’all covering this guy’s execution show’s that you have zero empathy; or respect whatsoever for the victim. She will get justice the day of our Lord
Wow if ever someone should get the death penalty it’s him!! That poor victim and her family. At least justice will finally be served for her and her family. He is evil and it shouldn’t have taken this long for justice to come!! He got to spend time with his family and have a last meal. The victim was not able to go those things!!
Why aren’t these protestors against and outraged over assisted suicide. Both are mechanical death. I will never be against the DP as long as it involves children and SA, until I watched the pardon hearing last week. I hadn’t realized the extent of the SA was extremely violent towards Claudia and the child. Plus the other child witnessed some of this rage.
The difference is consent. AS is consensual, this is not. I personally currently believe in the Dp, but it's pretty obvious why they wouldn't be upset (necessarily) about AS.
I wish reporters would stop using the word "gentleman" when discussing scumbag criminals. It is insulting to decent, law abiding men who truly are gentlemen.
The Woman he Murdered didn't get a chance to live the rest of her life so why should he, he did some horrible things to her with a knife...he doesn't deserve to live he's a danger to all Women!
I am very religious but the people that are protesting should be using their time to volunteer at battered wives shelters rather than fighting for a monster
I hate that they aren't talking about the victim or victims. I know he murdered an innocent women, but then hear that he hurt a child as well? What did he do? Forgive my ignorance. I know he admitted to committing a crime, but thats all I've heard. It's sad that they only mention the one of the victims maybe once.
His families are cold hearted people,i would never condone a family member doing this type of crime and still love them,hell no his defense attorney is a clown,what about the victims,no body speaks on behalf of the victim family.
He had requests leading up to his death, my question is did he grant the victim her requests??? NO NO NO !! He should not have been granted any requests at all, he was a monster!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!
The people protesting seem not to care at all about the poor lady who was tortured and murdered by this monster! They only care about the monster! What is wrong with these people?
It blows my mind that people are so concerned about how painful a death will be for a murderer. The woman he murdered was not given that kind of courtesy. He didn't care how scared she was. He didn't care about how much pain she was living through before she was murdered.
He didn’t care about the pain that he put his victims through. We as people care what he put his victims through, to not care what he might go through says a lot about a person. If you have the capacity to truely care what another is going through it cannot be subjective! You can’t pick and choose, turn it off or on. It’s either one or the other. Not caring makes a person just as bad as he is, who really wants to be like that? And why?
Exactly my point. It seems these people do not care about the life he took and the inhuman and painful death he meted out to his victim.
It's odd, isn't it? Would the same people who turned up to this vigil have stood outside the courthouse for the victim who was violated with a knife in front of her children? I understand a deep disgust of a life for a life, but I also feel it's incredibly disrespectful to the family of the victim to protest the end of a person who did this kind of thing. The woman who died is never coming back. The child who was assaulted will never recover from those scars. I feel as if we're so desensitised to societal violence from these inter-species predators, that unless it's our family member, we can't muster the energy to care too deeply. But having this man removed from our planet is not a loss, or a tragedy. It's a net good.
A vigil for WHO? How tasteless & awful-- could you not find anyone else to perform "vigils" for? I consider that a slap in the face to this monster's victims.
That's your bleeding heart liberals for you!
To discuss the inhumanity of these drugs but the suffering of that poor woman and child being sexually assaulted are not mentioned..now we talking of inhumanity
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I know that is uncalled for
WOKE NONSENCE BS
I didn’t understand what you were saying
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The victim didn't get a peaceful sleep she was tortured and subjected to extreme pain and fear .... talk more about the victim and not this demon in the flesh
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Absolutely @Frezumind , he had no problem violently killing the poor Lady which was horrendous 😢.
Amen
@@frezurmind I wholeheartedly agree, it makes me absolutely sick when they talk about their cruel and unusual punishment. What about the victim she died very violently
Why the hell did it take 24 years of tax payers money to put this animal down the JUDICIAL SYSTEM NEEDS AN OVERHAUL!!! no justice for the victim SMH
Exactly. It costs way more. But. I do think we need the process for people that are wrongfully convicted. They need chances to get out. That’s why it takes them several years.
Now if only we could get Lori and Chad Daybell on that table and about 500 others. System is way too slow.
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@@RoniShawnIt does cost more because of appeals. It’s disgusting to set a person up who is innocent but even more so to not be willing to overturn it because of ego. And how bad it looks for LE, state, etc. Although, I think 24 years is too long.
The attorneys make a substantial amount of money handling the appeal(s) process. Business as usual.
Keeping this murderer on death row for 25 years is absurd. This murderer showed no mercy for the woman he brutally murdered. Keeping him on death row for 25 years is not justice.
It is doubtful that his wait to be executed for 25 years was in fact 'living' or that he had good enjoyment of life.
His agony each day in waiting on when his last day would come was punishing in itself and was reducing any hope for his life being spared.
@@alierem4266the documentaries I've seen about death row inmates show them going slowly mad with the restrictions and isolation
@@TinaBUTCHER-ph1ph ..abd the anticipation only for the afterlife!
That time , waiting for the execution, is worse than death itself.
I totally agree
25 years. The woman he tortured did not get any extra time to enjoy life. He tortured her without mercy. He gets 25 more years of life. Disgusting 😢
@@phyllishannah7203 do you realize there are more men on Utahs death row who have been there for almost 40 years? Look up Ralph Menzies, Michael Archuleta, douglas Lovell, troy kell, von lester & doug carter. Everyone but Troy Kell have been on death row since the 80’s. Honie went in the late 90’s. Honies crime was horrible. However, watch Gladiator Days about Troy Kell. I believe it is on youtube. Hes a white supremicist that killed in vegas when he was 18 in the 80’s. Moved in a relocate prisoner program to Gunnison. And brutally in the most awful way possible masterminded and stabbed a black inmate 67 times. A few of those in his face. It was caught on prison cameras. The inmate he killed had his hands cuffed and couldnt defend himself. After Troy was done, he was super proud of his accomplishment. Talking about “white power popping off in here”. He even told people he was going to win an academy award for his performance during his trial. Meaning he would fake remorse.
Doug Lovell, raped a woman from Ogden, Utah in the 80’s. Then kidnapped and killed her later to prevent her from testifying against him. They have never found her body. Then lets move on to Ralph Menzies. He is rumored to have kidnapped a young mother working nights at a gas station. Taking her in the mountains and killing her. Then leaving her body at some picnic area. Michael Archuleta is the one whose story is one, if not the worst. That i do not even want to mention it on here. I dont know much about the others two.
So, he got 25 years while these others are still breathing. Who also did terrible terrible things. But they are still alive. Where is the justice for their victims?
When they give out the death penalty they should also set the date of execution lets say in 5 years time !
That's plenty of time for there lawyers to appeal the decision , and if they CANNOT come up with a valid reason to spare there clients life ? well too bad the condemned take's the 3 foot drop !
@@sheepsfoot2Since we can objectively state that five years is not long enough, well then "too bad" for all the innocent folks!
Can you imagine if you were in charge 😳 🤣
nogenta também é esse bando de que por falta do que fazer na vida ficam com essa palhaçada defendendo esse filho da puta..vamos vê quando um igual a esse monstro que eles estão defendendo pegar a filha oi a irmã de alguns desses idiotas que defendem assassinos se eles também vão ficar fazendo palhaçada na rua..
@@phyllishannah7203 Truly, except hoping for high level leader pardoning, little if any chance for freedom.
Waiting for execution can not be a walk in the park but anticipation --each day-- of death.
I don’t care about the criminal’s pain, what about what he did brutally to that woman? My prayers goes to the victims family
Both families have to deal with this guys crime forever
Good thing the constitution cares
@@TheJingles007unless you were a victim of a crime yourself, people like you will never understand. Just like the guy in Florida that had a severe nosebleed in the electric chair and all the advocates cried about it. What I thought about was what he did to that family he slaughtered
@@richardmarez126I watched his daughter’s interview and I feel her pain, but most importantly the victim’s family is who I’m concerned about
@@philip19761 I’m glad you’re not in charge. You care only for vengeance
Every breath he took was a slap in the face to the victims
I wouldn't really say that. He had 23 years to reflect on what he has done and in the end it didn't matter because he was going to die anyways. That last year must have been hell for him knowing death was at his door.
Personally George, I couldn't agree with you more!
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@@bask1876I hope that time was hell and then some.
Death penalty is a DISGRACE, its early prison release. This man is a sick evil person. He should suffer in a cage for his natural life. Not given early release from the cage. The victim deserves better than this guy having no more punishment. Now hes out of prison and his suffering is over. makes me angry guy. peace and love
He brutally murdered the woman. Convicted in a court of law and received a death sentence. The victim's family deserved justice.
People protesting have totally forgotten about the victim and the victims families and friends. It's rediculous that this process takes decades
Exactly they don’t care about the victim in all this
Once found guilty the death penalty should follow next day. So sad for the victims and their families having to wait
Well if this is true then what is the purpose of judgement day. You Christians and Muslims are two hilarious groups.
@@konaskreations You think so? Too many Democrats around you, perhaps. That's a bizarre level of trust in our government. Well-known for their flawless operation. Look up a few of the innocent people who sat on death row for literally nothing & were unlawfully robbed of *decades* of their life.
Thank you! ❤
The only thing thats unfair about this is he gets to pass peacefully...put to sleep ..what about his victim ...there was nothing peaceful about what he did to her ...and that poor baby girl ...We definitely need the death penalty in every country ...
No we don't. Not if you're actually civilised.
@@laurahompuslol. We in 2024. If it ain’t happened yet, it’s not going to.
@@laurahompus🎯🎯🎯
@@laurahompusare you civilized why are you not thinking about the victim so stop your crap
@@edithmahoney9094 because we do not live in the BCE era. This is not an eye for an eye situation. If we start barbarically killing the same way they killed their victims. Then how are we as a society any different than this man? It is thinking like that, that shows me how much we have declined as a world.
The sad part of this ordeal is that it took so long for his sentence to be carried out and that the firing squad wasn’t used.
Firing Squad?! That's insane. Why volunteer to have PTSD for killing murderers in a brutal way? That's going to affect police mental health big time.
@@arvi8843I think you'll find after investigating what some of these murderers have done, there will be quite a few that would volunteer. Your forgetting the PTSD that the police go through from seeing the results of people like him.
@@stephanielloyd4053 That's barbaric. This isn't Middle East. US is a Christian nation. You don't have to become the monster that they are in order to achieve justice.
@@stephanielloyd4053right only thing they have to do is get the police that had to investigate that crime!! I bet they will happily do it!!!
@@stephanielloyd4053 YT is deleting my comment. I said That is b a r b a r i c. One doesn't need to be the monster that they are.
Why wasn’t there one picture of the victim? She deserves to be remembered with Love! 🙏
WHY DO THEY DRAG IT ON OMG WHAT ABOUT THE POOR VICTIM HE LIVED 27 YEARS AFTER THE KILLING REALLY!!!!
How it goes
People never seem to understand LWOP is cheaper than the death penalty. They have a long process to go through that takes YEARS before they are put to death.
White people justice
Unfortunately the Victims
Have No Rights
Which Delays and Denies
Justice
The System is Horribly Flawed
@@dudemorris7769 lol are you kidding!!! Hahahaha you make me laugh!
it’s a slap in the face to the families of the victims that these animals are allowed to live that long on Death row!!!…..a travesty!!….. judicial system is broken!!😡😡😡😡😡😡
This guy gets the death penalty but the dude who chased down and shot his 3 sons doesn’t.
Huh?
What was he sentenced to, do you know?
@@jeangemmel7895 Chad Doerman was sentenced to life without parole.
It was a plea deal so they didn't have to have a trial. The family aggred.
Agreed, sorry if spelling wasn't your best subject.
I don't know if I agree with the death penalty. However, the defense attorney comments about how the killer was young and drug-addicted. There are plenty of young drug addicts that don't kill a friend by beating them, slashing her throat and sexually assaulting her with a knife. Its an insult to people with substance issues.
Not sure if it’s true, I will have to fact check it, but someone commented that the murderer was born drug addicted. That doesn’t give him a free pass to do as he pleases though.
Defense attorneys have jobs to do, and that is one of them. Try and point out any mitigating arguments
This evil man is a demons
Eye for an eye
It is not a choice. Some people will drink alcohol and become violent, some people will drink alcohol and become placid. The same applies to drugs.
Some people will take no drugs or alcohol and do horrific murders. It is because their brain is wired in a different way. You do not have a choice in how your brain is wired.
You do not deserve credit because you take drugs and do not murder people. You are born with a brain wired not to kill people. In the same way you cannot blame people who do murder people and do unspeakable acts.
You and I should consider ourselves fortunate. We could not cut someone's genitals open and have sex with them. It is revolting and not even possible for us to do anything like that. Even the thought of it makes us feel sick.
If you are born with a miswired brain there is nothing you can do about it. You might find it difficult to feel sorry for those people, but casting blame or hatred on them does not make sense. Just be thankful none of your family become either the victim or the perpetrator of a crime like this.
Wow! All of those people there in support of this monster is crazy!! What about the poor girl and her family 😢😢
The victim dont have a voice she is gone and here there is mass media.now is the time to ACT as "human rights defender"! Yipeeeee!
And I bet those protestor are in support of killing innocent babies in the womb.
They are probably bleeding hearts Liberals. I wondered if that was one of their family members who was murdered how would they feel about the killer?
I'm Irish living in Ireland. I used to think that nobody has the right to put a sentence of the death penalty on any person. But I spend a lot of time listening to interrogations, court cases and parole hearings from the US. I now think that hell isn't going to be hot enough for the monsters who go way beyond the actions of murder. If someone flips out instantly and kills someone by shooting or stabbing them. Those killers deserve life sentences. But when you listen to the depraved and downright evil like this monster. Who took more than the life of the girl that night. By mutilating and disrespecting her body, that's where I have changed my mind about the death penalty. I hope that his spirit will never have rest. He is a monster and a scumbag. There is absolutely no excuse for the painful and torturous death he gave this innocent woman.
I hope that her family will have a sense of closure, even though that will never be enough.
There are some cases I think that the perpetrator should leave this world in the same way his victim left the world.
I don't know why the process takes so long between sentences and punishments.
I hope that her spirit will now be free. 🇮🇪
I’m so glad you finally woke up. This has been going on for centuries.
So in Ireland there aren't any crimes do yall have jails and prisons or is it the most peaceful place to live and all the people are sane perfect and loving I'm just wondering what type of place you live in where there's no crime no nothing going on
@@lovelife6609 There are plenty of crimes like any other country. The most violent ones are drug related, wannabe kingpins. Thank fully murder is not a daily occurrence. There are still problems with theft and burglaries. The prisons are sadly always full, not too much overcrowding but full. So far this year there has been 24 homicide recorded.
There are crimes against women and children too.
The one thing that I think keeps the crime rates lower than the US. Guns are not allowed unless they are for hunting. That doesn't mean that there are no guns in Ireland. The drug wannabe the toughest and most ruthless have managed to get their supply from somewhere.
Thank you for asking.
@@lovelife6609In the USA are living the most (brutal) murderer, even though you have the death penalty😮
What's wrong in the USA? What's so effing wrong with your people's? 🤔
@@lovelife6609she's not saying that! She Ives in Ireland. I'm from Scotland. We don't have the DP here anymore. The last hanging was back in the 1950's the worst a murderer gets here is Life without Parole. With extended solitary confinement etc
People need to stop using drugs as an excuse. Addicts all over the world don't do anything as heinous as this
Amen
Drugs should not be a valid excuse!!! When you choose to indulge in drugs or alcohol, you are 100 % accountable for your behavior. What a horrible death this woman suffered. My condolences to her family. My condolences to the family of the murderer. They are his victims as well!!!
@@jillijane9793 i agree with that. Especially since i am recovering addict. Ive never done anything like this or stolen etc. I was functioning and held a job even.
Unless they cause them psychosis / paranoia, then they may.
@@ilb735 No. Not when you commit crimes. That's not an excuse.
25 years to execute him......the poor victims had to wait 25 years for justice😢
@@kridswonderhowell4541 there are currently 6 or 7 men on death row in Utah. Everyone but Honie and Kell have been there since the 80’s. Where is their victims justice? And all of them did terrible things. But they have been there almost as long as i have been breathing.
Remember Ethan Stacey? That cute little boy whose mother and stepfather tortured, starved, killed, desecrated his body and buried him in the Ogden mountains back in 2010? And then pretended like he was kidnapped? Why didn’t they get the death penalty? What about the girl who met that black guy on a sugar daddy website and was killed, desecrated and then taken to the Logan mountains and buried, who was trying to employ a contractor to build him a dungeon for killing in his home. Why wasn’t he given the death penalty? Aren’t these as terrible? Come on! Honie did an unforgivable thing. It was beyond comprehension. However, there are many in prison here that are given life sentences instead of death for worse crimes than Honie.
Was there this much press for the innocent lives taken from people like this? What a hypocrisy...
Never , sad world/country we live in.
Yeah well the way Claudia was killed was highly cruel & unusual. Imagine her terror. This is about the victims. Always.
Even his daughter had to witness her dad unalive her grandmother and the evil doer also sexually assaulted one of the kids.
Not really. Is it going to stop people from killing others, of course not. This is not about victims but about the USA allowing this and Utah
What does “unalive” mean? SMH
Suici*e
@lulueusebia5789 yes, and the grandmother too (I saw on a news report) before he mutilated her...he blamed it on drugs and booze...guess what no excuse!
May his victims rest in peace. May he find justice in hell
My true feelings
Praise Jesus hallelujah
@@ronwade5646 i do not personally believe in hell. I am a believer in your actions in this life determine your next life. Reincarnation is real. I do not need to explain why i feel this way and you do not have to agree.
However, Honie will understand and be taught something similar to his crime in his next incarnation. He will most likely be victimized in his next life. So, his soul will learn.
@@Evolvingwithin777This is 💯 right and has actually been proven now by top Scientists around the world. Your karma is your next life will be hell.
At last..
Why would she call him a "gentleman" in the intro?? It's an insult to all real gentlemen.
Wonder if he felt the same fear his victim felt before her death? If anything, he was given more mercy & grace than his victim.
No sympathy. He gave the victims family LIFE WITHOUT PAROLE in their grieving. He should willing take his death sentence knowing what he did regardless of his pitiful excuses. Praying for the victim’s family.
He is being executed, let’s not forget the victim and the victim‘s family. A life was taken brutally and the family lost their loved one.
Booo Hooo. He blamed it on drugs. Last I knew is that drugs get you high. They don't make you commit murder.
Oh don’t forget he had a terrible childhood blah blah blah LOL
Drugs only makes it easier for the evil inside to come out! 😮
Drugs don't make anyone to become a murderer.
Yes they do ..the devil uses DRUGS especially on the weak minded) to ALTER your mind and reason..not going to listen to u take up for drugs..
Some drugs do, even the so called prescription drugs that is given to treat Bipolar or High blood pressure are experimental and used on regular people to see how it works for this occasion. I was given potassium infusion and it felt like lethal injection.
What about the monstrous, heinous painful violent way the victim died!?🤬
Who gives a F if it’s painful for the murderer .. WHAT ABOUT HIS VICTIM !!
He's gone. Dear beautiful Claudia can rest a bit easier.
Of course his life has changed..in prison he detoxed and couldn't get drugs or alcohol...but did the VICTIMS life change ? How about the children who witnessed this horrific crime?? Let's focus on the VICTIM ..not the criminal and his woes...he chose to do it and now faces the CONSEQUENCES...ITS TIME FOLKS FACE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO DO and stop feeling bad for them...this guy did it and now deal with it
Exactly
Well said!! We always hear about the accused’s constitutional rights, what about the victim’s constitutional rights? What about the living victim’s constitutional rights?
actually they do have access to drugs and alcohol in prison...hopefully he chose not to engage...
What about the 6 year old girl he SAd during the same event? That child, now adult, has to live with the trauma of that for their whole life! Not to mention, his own daughter was a witness and the victim was the grandmother of his own daughter!
If you truly focus on healing for the victims, as you claim, it has zero to do with anything outside of the victim. Truly dealing with ANYTHING in life has Jack Shit to do with what happens to a perp and EVERYTHING to do with what happens inside your own mind.
Trust me, Karma will deal with the perpetrator.
His victim didn't get a chance to pick her last meal
the doors to hell have opened, say hi to the devil.
They were opened with the fall of Adam and Eve.
Only God knows where he is
God can forgive all.
Grow the fuk up weirdos.😂
How do you know there hell??? I think we are in hell already! People suffer here due to white man laws!!!
Gentleman: a man who is polite and behaves well toward other people, especially women: He was a perfect gentleman.
Calling this cold blooded killer a GENTLEMAN is beyond insane! I can't think of a more misapplied word. Does the narrator have any idea what the meaning of gentleman is? What part of murdering his victim is GENTLE?
I agree
Being polite she can hardly call him a pos on air.
@@Ann-sj4pt She could refer to him as man, person, murderer, inmate. Gentleman is the LAST word she should use.
The media love criminals and hate justice.
Bad grammar
What if he murdered someone in your family? You don't know what you're talking about. Take him home. Let his kind live with you. See for yourself. Open your eyes. Evil be gone. Not kept.
What does it say about your argument that I’d need to be severely emotionally compromised to agree with it?
@@TheJingles007 What does it say about you that you lack empathy without being severely emotionally compromised?
@@Dontstopbelievingman Empathy is one thing. Vengeance is another
@@TheJingles007 You could suggest that any punishment given for any crime was vengeance by that measure. After all, there's no such thing as rehabilitation. It's about peace for the victims and making the world a safer, better, healthier place.
And why should the murderer have freedom?
I’m Australian and sometimes wish that we still had this here, especially for the murder of children and law enforcement officers. We have a serial killer, Paul Denyer, who was up for parole a couple of years ago. Thankfully he didn’t get it but it’s a joke here!
I don’t think these monsters deserve a last meal, last words, last rights, nothing but a last breath! They sure didn’t give their victims any lasts!!!
@@edynfox6368 I’m glad you aren’t in charge of this world then.
@Evolvingwithin777 well we could store those monsters at your house then 😅
@@ddubsmclovin see it’s ignorance and stupidity like your comment that makes me wonder how this world is ever going to get better.
I don’t condone or support anything he did. However, I feel a worse punishment is living in a bathroom sized cell, with a mattress about 2 inches thick and a small blanket, eating gross food, seeing the same people over and over, that you can’t ever get away from, never seeing your family the way you want, having no choice to make of your own and being around your gender forever is far worse than death.
I know you have a very simple mind and black/white thinking. However, I believe in reincarnation. I don’t care if you do or don’t. Your actions in this life will determine your fate of your next. So, believe me this isnt over for his soul. He will most likely become a victim of something similar in his next lifetime. So his soul will understand the actions he caused in his previous one.
It must be so amazing to believe that you have the right to determine someone’s death or not. Or don’t see the hypocrisy in the death penalty. IT DOESNT DETER!
His victims didn't have peace. He SAd a 6 year old and offed the grandmother of his own child! He received a peaceful crossing...unlike his victim.
Why so much news coverage? He cared nothing for his victims.
It's the media's job to attract attention. It's how they make money, that's all.
@@prometheusrex1 I know that’s true, and their greed for attention has resulting in too much information that is untrue, unsubstantiated, unbelievable, and unhelpful for the benefit of society. They have all graduated from the School of Yellow Journalism.
Executions are uncommon outside of Texas. That’s why
@@TheJingles007 Not so; consider Oklahoma as well. Utah should follow Texas and Oklahoma by vastly expediting the appeals process. The DP should be administered in every intentional case where there is irrefutable video evidence of guilt, DNA evidence of guilt, or a reliable confession. That would not only serve justice but also would deter others. We ought to have 10 times more of these in Utah--just like Oklahoma, which has had 125 DPs since 1982. By contrast, Utah has had only EIGHT.
Amazing grace omgg have they no respect for the victims family
What is barbaric is what the victim endured. Those protestors should think of that before sympathizing with someone who will be put to sleep peacefully and painlessly. A mercy he didn't grant his victim
They keep going on and on about him! What about what he did to his girlfriend mother! That was horrific! Protester are insults to the victim and the victim’s family.
he had 25 years too long the victim lost everything plus SA and the little girl too..... next time dont wait.
They always wait a lot ! That's why the wade Wilson is happy because he enjoy fame in prison until the death row 😢
I wish we had the DP here in the UK we have some inhuman beings here that I would gladly flip the switch on! And there is NO DOUBT these are the killers who did the horrible crimes, just take a look at recent murders in the south of UK then you will know, or the recent murders of three innocent children there should be no 27 years in prison on tax payers money for these dispicable crimes! These people who want the DP abolished are not thinking about the REAL victims here!
That is horrible what happened over there in the UK. My heartfelt condolences to all the victims, family, and friends here from Pennsylvania. No one can imagine that type of pain til it hits home. Prayers to the UK
Sincerely sorry for the terrible murder of the three little girls.
It’s been going on for centuries. It doesn’t matter what part of the world you are in, evil will always exist. And obviously so will ignorance. Ignorant people who want to get rid of the Dp.
I bet his mother will tell you he is a good son! Sick
Yeah , as if she witnessed an angel growing up 😂😂 !!
If so his mother should have seen what her evil son did to his victim. 😮
I agree with everyone. They have forgotten about the victims. My brother was murdered and I am strong on the death penalty. An eye for an eye. He got 27 more years to live than the victims. I am sure they didn't want to die that horrible death.
I am so sorry for your loss Linda
Justice was served
There’s no place for evil here.
@jpage5303 absolutely correct 👏
Not really
He got to spend his final moments with his family before being executed whereas the victims family will forever be robbed and scarred with the memory and knowledge in the manner of which their loved one were taken.
Whether he was young and under the influence of drugs at the time is irrelevant. Ideally the victim's family deserves justice and should have the ultimate say in the criminal's fate.
Here is my take. If you live in a state that has the death penalty and you dont want to be on death row dont murder anyone. Honie made a conscious and willful choice to commit a gruesome murder. He knew that if he got caught he could face the death penalty yet he chose to do it anyway. He is suffering the consequences of his poor choices.
Poor and sad humans. Death Sentences should be carried out within 60 days and no appeals allowed. That would be a stronger deterrent. If folks know they dont get a whole lifetime to appeal.
What is wrong with people?? This isn’t murder this is called being held accountable for your actions….!!!!!
we need to stop being so kind to a killer....where was his kindness to the innocent person he killed? he should have not had all these years to live unlike the victim ..stop pampering this guy and his feelings and put the victim and her family first!!!
Prayers for the victim????......
Cruel and unusual???!!! This monster shouldn’t even be thought of as being cruel and unusual to him. He was a monstrous murderer. He did worse than torture that poor woman. She didn’t have a chance and he did unmentionable horrible torturous acts on this woman.
I used to be against the DP but over time I’ve learned just how depraved people can be. It’s changed my mind and I’ve come to believe some are beyond redemption
Life without parole means more money the tax payers have to pay, well in the UK it does. I'm sure, if the UK was brought back the DP, then i'm sure we would get swift justice
Wrong
Wrong. DP costs more because of the appeals
And the pharmaceuticals charge 4 millon dollars for the injection juice.
@@VitoAnthonyD.-ow7oo that b.s..
@@VitoAnthonyD.-ow7oo So they tell us that it takes a nearly microscopic amount of Fentanyl to kill someone. Why don't they use that? Police evidence lockers are full of it so they could get it for free.
The murder happened in 1998? I wish more was being shared about the victim and that this segment was devoted mostly on her.
That’s wild I was born in 98 I’m 26 now… my whole existence this family been waiting and waiting and mourning their loss… I couldn’t imagine that shit 😔
Wait so a person who sexually assaulted a woman with a knife, and countless other unthinkable acts, is being taken up for like he's s victim. Just get it over with already soon as the verdict comes in, done
The lady he killed never got a last chance to say goodbye to her family so why should this man get all these privileges before his execution????
“The fact that y’all covering this guy’s execution show’s that you have zero empathy; or respect whatsoever for the victim.
She will get justice the day
of our Lord
Holy hell. He went too peacefully for the crimes he executed.
There's nothing inhumane about the death penalty because what this man did was worse than heinous to another human being.
An execution, where there is no doubt the person did it, should not take almost 30 yrs to happen.
Wow if ever someone should get the death penalty it’s him!! That poor victim and her family. At least justice will finally be served for her and her family. He is evil and it shouldn’t have taken this long for justice to come!! He got to spend time with his family and have a last meal. The victim was not able to go those things!!
Why aren’t these protestors against and outraged over assisted suicide. Both are mechanical death. I will never be against the DP as long as it involves children and SA, until I watched the pardon hearing last week. I hadn’t realized the extent of the SA was extremely violent towards Claudia and the child. Plus the other child witnessed some of this rage.
Assisted suicide for a terminal illness should be an option for the dying.
The difference is consent. AS is consensual, this is not. I personally currently believe in the Dp, but it's pretty obvious why they wouldn't be upset (necessarily) about AS.
His life isn't as important...hypocrites
Why do these criminals and family act as if they are the victims 😮
The cruelty is not the death penalty! It’s allowing him so much time to live after he was proven guilty.
The 8th Amendment disagrees with you
Beyond evil 👿
Well I certainly don't feel sorry for him...WTF? Why all of the empathy for this murderer? What about the victims and their family ffs
It took 33 years??!!!
He got to say goodbye to his family. What about the victim? Why are people not protesting for the victim?
Because he’s being executed, not her?
@@TheJingles007- He already executed her, and left a 6 year old girl with a lifetime of rape horror.
I can't get over the fact that you didnt show one picture of the victim or tell us what he did, it was all about him, shame on you lot, R.I.P Claudia😢
I wish reporters would stop using the word "gentleman" when discussing scumbag criminals. It is insulting to decent, law abiding men who truly are gentlemen.
Live outside the prison for an execution and “great to be with you tonight” oh my God local news is ridiculous
Wow, to hear that they were disappointed to know he was executed! What about the women he killed and sexually mutilated?
The Bible is very clear: a life for a life is God's opinion.
There is no god.
The Woman he Murdered didn't get a chance to live the rest of her life so why should he, he did some horrible things to her with a knife...he doesn't deserve to live he's a danger to all Women!
Did the woman he killed get a last request? Or meal?
AN EYE FOR AN EYE...the poor victims...they are living dead...think about them!
I wonder if them protesters would protest if it was there family or friends
I am very religious but the people that are protesting should be using their time to volunteer at battered wives shelters rather than fighting for a monster
I hate that they aren't talking about the victim or victims. I know he murdered an innocent women, but then hear that he hurt a child as well? What did he do? Forgive my ignorance. I know he admitted to committing a crime, but thats all I've heard. It's sad that they only mention the one of the victims maybe once.
Dont call these evil devils "Gentleman".... horrible crimes
His families are cold hearted people,i would never condone a family member doing this type of crime and still love them,hell no his defense attorney is a clown,what about the victims,no body speaks on behalf of the victim family.
What a bleeding heart news reporter
Wow....
I live in Texas, and we had an execution last night.
Definitely didn't go down like this.. the news stations must be having a slow week
Because he was black
‘Murder is never the solution’? It’s not what those on Death Row thought, so why should they get any consideration?
What does that woman call him a "gentleman"???
But they are talking about the hurt he would feel if he gets the drugs what about the pain the victims feel????
He lived long enough without punishment.
Why life on parole, taxpayers are paying him to be in jail, he killed, so why should we be sorry for him?
He had requests leading up to his death, my question is did he grant the victim her requests??? NO NO NO !! He should not have been granted any requests at all, he was a monster!! PERIOD!!!!!!!!
The people protesting seem not to care at all about the poor lady who was tortured and murdered by this monster! They only care about the monster! What is wrong with these people?
wtf. 23 years later. and america just accepts this bs over and over. the world shakes its head
Wonder if protesting people would feel the same if that were their kids
He is NOT a Gentleman!!!!!!!!
Honey baloney