Wonderful video! Thanks for sharing. It is a great joy to hear and see the three important historical pianos: Érard, Broadwood and Pleyel. Do you know that Chopin, when he was in London 1848, had available all the three grand pianos in his apartment? He always preferred and used Pleyel but in this case the piano manufacturers were competing over him. I'm just reading a book about his life and I found your video when I wanted to compare the sounds of pianos.
Thank you for your comment. I'm glad you liked this comparison. It is obvious that Chopin's piano background was very diverse and hard to imagine today.
Would you mind describing more how the erard upright felt to play if you still remember? I have the opportunity to get this exact model from the same year and I'm thinking about it because I love the romantic sound. Your video and playing sounds great but of course the reverb in the room colors the sound and makes it harder to get a feel for it in comparison to that pleyel, which sounds amazing! Thanks for this
Thank you for your message. I remember the Erard had a nice touch and sound, having well preserved its original materials. It also had a low pitch. The room has reverberant acoustics, and I placed the microphones far from the piano in order to capture the acoustics of the place.
At what pitch is the Pleyel upright piano tuned? I had a discussion with a piano tuner about the pitch. He says it should be 440, but I think it should be the Parisptich so around 408. What do you think?
Bonjour. Je voulais savoir quel est le logiciel de montage vidéo que vous utiliser? Autrement, c’est magnifique de comparer les différences de son entre les pianos de plusieurs époques.
Bravo Ziad, c'est une belle comparaison. J'ai une petite préférence pour le pianino Pleyel. Cependant, peut-être que le "chanteur" Erard ne bénéficie pas du même soin pour la prise de son (on a l'impression que ça résonne dans la salle). Lequel est à un diapason particulièrement bas.
Merci Xavier. En effet, chaque captation montre l'acoustique du lieu. Peut-être que dans le premier extrait, les micros étaient placés un poil trop loin. Dans l'enregistrement du Pleyel, on perçoit l'aspect convivial d'un appartement.
Hey Ziad! How beautiful! It sounds elegant, cantabile and expressive. Well done man. 👏👏👏 I'm a particularly happy with your awesome rendition with several piano! Keep up your awesome job. Have a great weekend and keep in musical touch.👍👍👍Your friend Satoru
I wish the recordings are all grand! Obviously our ears are more attuned to the modern Steinway, between the 3 19th century instruments is there a preference for one over the other?
Thank you for your comment. In the 19th century, upright pianos were as well made as grand pianos. I have no reference among the first 3 pianos, I think they are all very beautiful. Which one do you prefer?
@@ZiadKreidy Unfortunately the recording of the Erard and Broadwood have more room reflection reverb rather than more direct to piano sound. From here, I think the Pleyel have a more intimate and more body to it's sound, followed by Erard, then the Broadwood sounded thinner. I never got the opportunity to play an older straight strung piano, but would be interested to since these piano do not cost a lot these days. I read your website, you edited a book on historical piano?
@@wckoek Thanks for the feedback. I have edited a book about ancient and modern pianos of the 20th and 21st centuries, from piano origins to the 108 keys Stuart & Sons grand. The subject of "Keys to the piano" is the unknown aspects of the piano.
@@ZiadKreidy Yes, I have just watched your video on your channel about the book, I sort of understand the subject even though I have not read the book yet. I guess the transition of piano from salon and private room to concert hall change the sound and construction of piano, and romantic composers change from salon music to concert style pieces. Now people play at home more, maybe it is time to think about that as well if piano made for concert hall do not sound as well as piano made for home/salon. I am more concern about quality of sound than historical authenticity though, because the latter subject is like "so many men, so many minds". If it sounded good, it is good.
@@wckoek Actually, I haven't made a video on "Keys to the piano" yet, but on another book I wrote myself. "Keys to the piano" gives the floor to personalities from the piano world: manufacturers, composers, pianists, university professors. It is 40 percent in English. Thank you for taking the time to comment my video.
Thank you for your message. Pianos age very well. Just because a new piano costs more doesn't mean it's better. And the action can be adjusted by a good technician.
@@FrankMarter Sometimes a restored piano sounds better than a new one. In any case, it is different, because it was made in a different context. In my opinion, the diversity of aesthetics is a wealth. The cult of the new piano is a profitable position for piano sellers.
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Wonderful playing I am just so drawn to the 1852 Erard then maybe the Pleyel the sound is just so beautiful
Thank you for listening so carefully and commenting. These pianos are really fascinating!
Wonderful video! Thanks for sharing. It is a great joy to hear and see the three important historical pianos: Érard, Broadwood and Pleyel. Do you know that Chopin, when he was in London 1848, had available all the three grand pianos in his apartment? He always preferred and used Pleyel but in this case the piano manufacturers were competing over him. I'm just reading a book about his life and I found your video when I wanted to compare the sounds of pianos.
Thank you for your comment. I'm glad you liked this comparison. It is obvious that Chopin's piano background was very diverse and hard to imagine today.
Pleyel of that time, even in the upright version, was the best desired piano in the market !!!
6:22 the cleanest microphone setup I've ever heard
Many thanks. It's 2 Rode NT1 placed far from the piano
Did you listen to it with speakers or headphones?
Headphones. Never heard a Steinway sound so glassy sparkly clean before, it’s beautiful. Thank you for sharing this
Would you mind describing more how the erard upright felt to play if you still remember? I have the opportunity to get this exact model from the same year and I'm thinking about it because I love the romantic sound. Your video and playing sounds great but of course the reverb in the room colors the sound and makes it harder to get a feel for it in comparison to that pleyel, which sounds amazing! Thanks for this
Thank you for your message. I remember the Erard had a nice touch and sound, having well preserved its original materials. It also had a low pitch. The room has reverberant acoustics, and I placed the microphones far from the piano in order to capture the acoustics of the place.
At what pitch is the Pleyel upright piano tuned? I had a discussion with a piano tuner about the pitch. He says it should be 440, but I think it should be the Parisptich so around 408. What do you think?
I no longer remember the pitch of this Pleyel at the time. I don't keep it at a fixed pitch anyway.
Beautiful Ziad. beautiful microphone placement as well, great job!!!
Many thanks :)
Bonjour. Je voulais savoir quel est le logiciel de montage vidéo que vous utiliser? Autrement, c’est magnifique de comparer les différences de son entre les pianos de plusieurs époques.
Merci pour votre message. Cette vidéo a été réalisée avec le logiciel Shotcut.
Bravo Ziad, c'est une belle comparaison. J'ai une petite préférence pour le pianino Pleyel. Cependant, peut-être que le "chanteur" Erard ne bénéficie pas du même soin pour la prise de son (on a l'impression que ça résonne dans la salle). Lequel est à un diapason particulièrement bas.
Merci Xavier. En effet, chaque captation montre l'acoustique du lieu. Peut-être que dans le premier extrait, les micros étaient placés un poil trop loin. Dans l'enregistrement du Pleyel, on perçoit l'aspect convivial d'un appartement.
What is the name of this piece ?
@@ryanleefortepiano Hermann Goetz op. 9 n° 1
@@ZiadKreidy Thank you
Hey Ziad! How beautiful! It sounds elegant, cantabile and expressive. Well done man. 👏👏👏 I'm a particularly happy with your awesome rendition with several piano! Keep up your awesome job. Have a great weekend and keep in musical touch.👍👍👍Your friend Satoru
Thanks a lot
My pleasure Ziad!
@@SatoruTakishima I've always loved the diversity of pianos.
I wish the recordings are all grand!
Obviously our ears are more attuned to the modern Steinway, between the 3 19th century instruments is there a preference for one over the other?
Thank you for your comment. In the 19th century, upright pianos were as well made as grand pianos. I have no reference among the first 3 pianos, I think they are all very beautiful. Which one do you prefer?
@@ZiadKreidy Unfortunately the recording of the Erard and Broadwood have more room reflection reverb rather than more direct to piano sound.
From here, I think the Pleyel have a more intimate and more body to it's sound, followed by Erard, then the Broadwood sounded thinner.
I never got the opportunity to play an older straight strung piano, but would be interested to since these piano do not cost a lot these days.
I read your website, you edited a book on historical piano?
@@wckoek Thanks for the feedback. I have edited a book about ancient and modern pianos of the 20th and 21st centuries, from piano origins to the 108 keys Stuart & Sons grand. The subject of "Keys to the piano" is the unknown aspects of the piano.
@@ZiadKreidy Yes, I have just watched your video on your channel about the book, I sort of understand the subject even though I have not read the book yet.
I guess the transition of piano from salon and private room to concert hall change the sound and construction of piano, and romantic composers change from salon music to concert style pieces.
Now people play at home more, maybe it is time to think about that as well if piano made for concert hall do not sound as well as piano made for home/salon.
I am more concern about quality of sound than historical authenticity though, because the latter subject is like "so many men, so many minds".
If it sounded good, it is good.
@@wckoek Actually, I haven't made a video on "Keys to the piano" yet, but on another book I wrote myself. "Keys to the piano" gives the floor to personalities from the piano world: manufacturers, composers, pianists, university professors. It is 40 percent in English.
Thank you for taking the time to comment my video.
Erard! !!! Vive Erard! !!! Je ne joue que sur 🔛 Erard ou Herz 🥰
You are talented musicianship
Many thanks for watching and commenting.
Bravo 🙂
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Love it😍
Many thanks Joshiano. which piano do you prefer?
Buenisimoooo
Muchas gracias por el comentario
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Of course the Steinway sounds better because it is 100 years newer.
Thank you for your message.
Pianos age very well. Just because a new piano costs more doesn't mean it's better. And the action can be adjusted by a good technician.
@@ZiadKreidy no. Pianos do not age well sounding boards crack and pin blocks crack. Strings become rusty and actions wear out.
Not always. And there are some very fine craftsmen who restore them.
@@ZiadKreidy yes they can be restored
@@FrankMarter Sometimes a restored piano sounds better than a new one. In any case, it is different, because it was made in a different context. In my opinion, the diversity of aesthetics is a wealth. The cult of the new piano is a profitable position for piano sellers.