For anyone curious why we didn't sandblast the hull, our boatyard wouldn't allow it. Lucky us, we got the FULL bottom job experience. Hop over here if you'd like to support our video production! www.patreon.com/sailingsoulianis Thanks so much for watching! Social distancing e-hugs to all, Lauren & Kirk
Kirk... 18:10.... You missed out on an awesome chance of being the Knight in Shining Armor and carried the damsel in distress over the water allowing the feet of the fair maiden to remain dry. 😂
You should have gotten yourself a better and lighter sander with propper "paper". I know they're expensive but in my experience nothing in the electric orbital sander category beats the Mirka system. I use both Mirka's and Festool's at work and truly, the Finnish brand is definitively lighter in weight, more aggressive for stock removal, just (if not better) build quality, and easier to handle/fine tune than the German. For your use I would have tried a Mirka CEROS 650CV 150mm with a hard backing pad for the flat parts/soft for the contours, and Abranet Ace or SIC NS type abrasives starting at 40 grits. But oh'well, the job is done now and you're still living in the same boat ....
You guys work unbelievably hard yet make it look so much fun. That's the magic of this show and what makes you both great to watch. Looking forward to seeing you back in the water again and off on more adventures. Seeing the world through your eyes is great as you paint a pretty picture.
That is a daunting task for you two young people to take on but you showed the world you have the ability to power through with the scraping and sanding. Then on to the joy of applying the copper coat which was easier on your bodies. You will be so happy when you are finished with the bottom refurbishing.
I can not get enough of you guys. I'm sitting here glued to the screen and the closing music starts playing. It's been 21:19 out of my life and I was just engrossed in this weeks challenge. You job to hard apparently. Thanks for sharing with us. Be safe and I can't wait to see what's next.
This honestly is the main reason I haven't purchased a sailboat. I literally do not have that amount of time in my life. I'm am so impressed with you guys. Well done! Stay safe IRL!
The amount of Common Knowledge you guys have is Amazing.... from wiring to rigging from fiberglass work to plumbing.. and, lets talk about filming and editing videos?? Nothing stops you guys !! I forgot about Van customization.... Love you guys !!!
What a huge project this was for you kids, but it had to be done! So much scraping and sanding would have driven most people absolutely bonkers! I admire your sticktoitiveness! So many thru-hulls but thank goodness you fixed that old one. The next posting will be showing us the copper coat process and I am looking forward to seeing just how that is done. Way back in the day, I remember my Dad using what he called "Red Lead" on the bottom of his old wooden hulls. I guess that turned out to be a big NO NO when it came to the damage it did to the environment. He eventually graduated up to fibreglas hulls and that made maintenance much easier over the long run. He would have loved watching you kids and your beautiful boat. The last boat he owned was an Islander 30 MKII.
Copper Coat is a really great idea. It's every two weeks for bottom cleaning in Florida, every 3 weeks with ablative. I'm glad that they still make it. Having someone sand blast it, is a lot easier. :)
You guys are great and danged hard working! I feel like for every week of sailing you do, there is 2-months of work on the boat. I'm glad you are able to keep your spirits up!
Hi Kirk & Lauren - I am refitting a Pearson 36-2 which was equipped with centerboard - raised by a complicated steel cable, sheaves and tubes, to a winch on the coachroof. While a CB can provide some performance advantage, most cruisers I have spoken with find their CB to be a hassle that provides only modest benefit. Also, a CB can be dangerous if the cable snaps and the CB drops while running downwind in heavy weather. They can also jam in the down position due to corrosion, breakage and/or barnacles. So I scrapped my entire CB & mechanism - I was shocked to find that the sheave box covering the hole in the bilge was ready to break apart and sink the boat. I sealed the bottom of the CB trunk with SS bolts and a floor of epoxy/chopped glass, then poured in cement grout to fill the cavity. Now I have a little more ballast and no potential points of failure in that area. I proceeded with sandblasting the hull, fairing & sanding, 6 coats of white/gray barrier (Sea Hawk Tuff) and 3 coats of relatively hard self-polishing copolymer antifouling (Sea Hawk Biocop 38% Cu + 4% Zn). If doing over I think I would instead use a barrier with a longer overcoat window (Pettit Protect) and a copolymer with higher Cu (Pettit Ultima-60 SR 60% Cu + 2% Irgarol).
Wow. What a job! I commend you as I think your doing a great job and removing the unused through hull was a very wise idea. Can't wait to see the finished job.
Ok guys i finished watching 57 videos lol. I have 2 more to go to watch all of them but you posted this one and well i couldn't resist. Starting from the beginning i feel as if i have been on the journey with you. Cant wait for the next one. Stay safe and healthy.
Gosh same thing happened to us. No rain forever. And then when we have it all ready to apply the antifouling...boom...the heavens let loose is we had to wait to get started with the Coppercoat. Look forward to the next episode! You will LOVE Coppercoat! Rebecca on SV Brick House
That hose clamp from the sander to the little shop vac is a great work around idea ! I'll have to try to remember it next time I've got heavy sanding to do .tks
It is interesting how seeing the two of you in Tyvek suits and respirators is much less scary than watching people on the news wearing the same equipment as we deal with Covid 19. Nice teamwork on the hull prep.
I was one of four that copper coated a friends 44' Freedom about 9-10 months ago. Wish I could have known about your plans, would liked to have shared our strategy. It turned out great, but there was a lot of changed plans, and improvising which we believe made it a success.
Let's hear it! We're working on a blog post about the tips and tricks we learned while applying, but it would be great to get others’ insights as well.
Great job you two. Thank you for your hard work and great videos. You two bring happiness to some very tough times these days. However, I do like the mosaic stripy look!
Wow - after watching Sailing Britican’s crazy experience with Copper coat, seems like a job for the pros. Hope it worked for you guys - can’t wait to find out. 4 coats, done quickly by multiple guys for 4.5 hours and then sanded perfectly... wow!
That's the funny thing -- they hired the job out, and those workers didn't apply it properly. When it comes to your own boat, YOU are the pro. You are the only one who cares enough about your boat to make sure it's done right. That's why we did it all ourselves.
Good day from Vancouver Island , hope this comment find you both in good health. I own a 79 T37 but a deep keel. Great to watch your projects. Saw you cooking with the new pressure cooker . Thought I should mention I got the magma 10pc all stainless,(Ceramica bad)) nesting cookware set and it fits perfectly in the lower cupboard (above the fridge) ,saves mega room.Also when cooking in the pressure cooker you can use the pots with the trivet inside the cooker and save you the hassle of trying to wash the pressures cooker in the tiny sink ,just dump the water out from the bottom and put her away. I’ve been avoiding my rebuild rudder project so thanks for the inspiration for my needed motivation. tight sheets and fair winds...
Yeah...you are taking the Coppercoat antifouling plunge! We removed all of our antifouling paint too (there is no easy way as you found out!) and applied Coppercoat on to Brick House too! She was launched on December 10, so about 4 months ago. We used to clean the bottom and it would take 2 hours once a month, pretty much from the very beginning of launching her. No bottom paint ever worked for us! So after we did a serious blister repair job, we stripped the bottom and applied Coppercoat too. Now our cleanings once a month take 15 or 20 minutes with the wipe of the softest sponge. Slime just clouds off. The boat who has had our exact marinas and sailing time, launched 2 weeks after us, is COVERED in barnacles, and all kinds of growth! They used the top antifouling paint the marina offered. So needless to say we are quite happy with Coppercoat. We had our suspicions because we didn’t/couldn’t follow the directions perfectly...but it appears that the Coppercoat is a HUGE success! I am glad that process (and filming of it) is over now and we can get on with sailing with Covid19 settles down! Hope your Coppercoat is a success too! -Rebecca on SV Brick House
I really enjoyed watching this episode and thank you for posting more information about it on your website. I had never heard of this and it is very interesting.
Finally got caught up with all your fantastic videos today! I’ve been wanting to ask if you two would ever consider doing a q&a video segment or an instagram story q&a sometime in the near future, we’d love to know more about you guys and your dreams for the future!
Hi Dylan, we have done a number of Q&A videos with Patrons, which keeps the questions to a manageable flow ensuring we're able to answer everyone individually. We are also considering doing something similar in the future for everyone, so feel free to throw out a few questions you'd like to ask and we'll add them to the list we're compiling.
Last year we moved all of the sink through hulls to above the waterline, I had the pros do the reglassing of the holes. I watched carefully. It's a lot easier than you think and they didn't cut back the glass very far or very deeply. They made "snowflakes" out of stripped mat and taped the holes inside. Then just epoxied the "snowflakes" into the holes from the outside. and then sanded smooth with fairing compound and gel coated the patch. Now I know how to do it.
Hi there! I'm a new subscriber and have watched most of your videos.....I really enjoy your channel, and am glad that I subscribed!!!! I have noticed that you have great 'pride in ownership' as well as 'attention to detail' I'm the same way and it's refreshing to see those qualities in action in your videos, Wether on your boat or van. I'm looking forward to your next video! Cheers!
Great video - thanks. Very surprised your boatyard didn't require you to tent the boat with all the bottom work you did - especially the sanding. Looking forward to seeing the finished product. Cheers!
I like watching people work , thanks! Kidding , especially as I have the same project that I hope I never do. Glad you did not find any major repairs under the paint! The best thing is if your really lucky this may be the only time you ever do this if your really smart! I've done it once so I hope never again! That small hole is plenty big enough repair , 12/1 is the suggest max required . Nice job! Warren
Keep that boy around. He is a hard worker. Great job and attention to detail. I’m not so patient - I hired a blaster to come in and strip my hull for $800.00. It took them a little more than an hour to do. It was worth it.
I need to do that to my boat next year. Every time I think about how much work it is I wonder why I didn't buy a kayak instead. Can't wait to see the Copper Coat go on!!
Hi we use cumclean a. Turps like product broom on and it faLLS off right back to the white surface coat , some areas will need a scrape that’s on soft anti fouling ,don’t use hard fouling that’s for race boats so you can scrub between races and have anti fouling left to protect , copper coat well it has its issues mainly in the prep department. And the product in not proven yet every body I talk to complains about it but we found soft paint lasts
After spending 6 hours video editing, the mind-numbing task of sanding was almost a welcomed change! Almost -- keyword. Couldn't pay me to do it again. -L
You guys are doing a really good job, I would want to buy your boat after you, tons of labor invested in that thing! That looks like a HYUGE pain in the ass! Good thing you wore those respirators, that stuff is probably toxic as heck. On the bright side, you can use this as a sales video when you go to sell that thing, show how well you took care of it and how well its been fixed.
I hope you had a good look at Sailing Britican and the major issues they have had with Coppercoat. I was also advised against Coppercoat for my boat in Port Phillip Bay Melbourne Australia as it at the mouth of a river and quite eustarine and really doesnt work well here. The yard manager at my club said all coppercoat was useful was for was an undercoat for conventional anti-fouling paint. Other people are very happy with the stuff... Anyway Good Luck
You might check out a couple of videos on the sailing channel "SailingBritican". They had issues with copper coat, and had the factory guys re-do the bottom a second time. Lots of good info.
We saw their video and read about their entire saga before starting. We were pretty confident their issues were a result of the application process and not the product itself.
string fiberglass is better than bondo , and a trick is wax , or parchment paper put over filler use a plastic scraper to smooth out , once dry paper pulls off , with a perfect smooth finish , minimizes sanding needs , and eliminates , pulls and voids
Do get the boat lifted and set down again to be able to get the places where it is supported and stand on? Or is that made later? Really nice vid, Hugs from Denmark
@@SailingSoulianis ohh thats nice they can do that. So you do the first part, then reblock and the other places. Gonna be nice, or well it most likely already is.😉😊
Oh! Hard work! I am doing the same in my boat now. I will be ready soon for upload more videos to my youtube channel! Come to Galicia’s coast if you have the chance, it is beatiful!
Barnacles on the prop can easily go away if you put a strong white vinegar onto kitchen paper towels and wrap them around. Wait 30 min or so, the resulting chemical reaction will allow you to easily remove the little things. Strong scotch Brite should do the rest. Greetings from the Baltic Sea. ⛵️cheers
I realize that this may be too late, but i have the same T37 (mine is a deep fin keel) and the same Autostream prop (which I love). I just use a brass wire wheel to clean it. You can get the proper zincs (and you should have some extras) BUT be very careful when you put the blades back together if you take them apart. YOU SHOULD NOT have to take the blades apart to put on new O rings. Just stretch them over the blade. If you do take it apart, be very careful to get the blades back in exactly the same place on the internal gears. Hope you have a sharks tooth cutter in front of your prop---you never know when you might hit a floating line. I hit one in Miami harbor. You need to grease that prop often as the Lubriplate they recommend is way too soluble. I use the turquoise stuff and it is expensive but much better and last awhile. I will be interested in your experience with Copper coat---I do not see how it can last as long as their manufacturer claims. I have used must about every thing else. I used Trinidad for many years successfully as a hard epoxy that I could scrub--lasted 3 years in the tropics. Now am seasonal so it does not much matter what I use as long as it has some copper in it. I just don't understand how the sellers think the copper will leach through the epoxy. You did not have water in voids, did you? So how does the copper leach? Anyway. You have learned a lot. I have previously talked about my not liking the safety aspects of dinghies on davits when making passages. You need a bimini, but I really do not like a lot of arches out there when it blows---sails you cannot take down. Think about it. Best to both of you.
Pete you have no idea how spot on your advice WOULD have been had we heard it before working on the prop ;) You'll be yelling at the screen with your head in your hands shortly as we share our autostream prop experience upon relaunching...
Hi Kirk and Lauren, is this in the Port Charlotte boatyard? And good call on glassing in the old transducer, Lady K almost sunk when their old transducer broke off, I don’t know if you follow them but that was a scary experience good video to look up if you haven’t seen it!
@20:20; Is that a plastic thru-hull fitting you’re pointing to? (Adjacent to the old transducer mounting point?) If it is, I would advocate replacing it (And any other plastic thru-hulls, if they are more than 5 years old. Not sure how to tell the age of the thru-hulls, but any sign of brittleness and they MUST be replaced. I’m sure you can work out the ramifications of not replacing them and having one fail!) The beauty of copper/bronze thru-hulls is that oxidation/corrosion/deterioration is readily apparent visually. (Green for oxidation...) Scraping off forty years of anti-foul is mind-numbingly tedious work (Here in Australia, the most cost effective way is to Soda-blast it, reasonably expensive, but would only take the contractor a matter of a few hours and the hull is almost perfectly fair and finished - excluding weird surprises (e.g. epoxy over primer over ablative. Also, unfortunately too late now, but next time you re- oat with anti-foul, please consider silicone. Amazing results and endurance (I’m told far superior to copper-coat or any other cuprous oxide...)
There are approximately 145 copper pennies in a pound, so multiply by 25 lbs and that bag of copper should have 3,625 pennies worth of copper. Great videos as always Lauren and Kirk!
Maybe the subject of a future episode, but did you end up doing anything to scrape/coat the swing keel? You two do such a great job and I absolutely love your channel.
Yep! You'll see in a future episode... We end up having to apply our old antifouling paint to our centerboard because we didn't have enough time in the slings to apply Coppercoat to it.
When I drive around in my van and travel trailer, I am giddy there is no bottom sanding involved. LOL. I have done all this many times. FYI, there is a 40 grit, 8" professional vac system bottom paint removal system - Made out of RI. Requires some skill to use. With it, I could take down a caked up 40' bottom with no scraping in about 10 hours.
I did this on a 10 foot jon boat with bottom paint, the boat was from the 60s and god knows how long the bottom paint was put on it, but I can't imagine having to do on this scale.
Question A 4000 PSI pressure washer with Sand Blaster attachment ? Or Soda Blast ? ONE DAY Less gouges on the Gel coat. That was LABOR INTENSIVE. What am I missing OH Just read about the YARD " even with containment plastic Area under the boat and Wet Vacs ? Bummer
Davits, heavy dinghy, solar panels off the stern can all be dangerous if you're hit with a wave astern. I know a lot of people take that risk; be mindful in your decisions as there are no free lunches. Moving batteries, chain and anchors, water tanks, etc to center line is a safe choice. Copper is an excellent choice in bottom paint for both efficacy and long-term value... safe travels...
That's a whole lot of labor! Great job though. Personally, I would have put a through hull in that hole with a valve for possible use for wash down, Etc. Or, live tank for bait fish? Good job though.
You really need to get you a few round wood tapers plugs and a few wedges that you can just tap I to any holes that open in an emergency and keep them handy with a hammer to any through hulls just in case be a shame to loose the boat for lack of a 60 cent price of wood
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For anyone curious why we didn't sandblast the hull, our boatyard wouldn't allow it. Lucky us, we got the FULL bottom job experience.
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Social distancing e-hugs to all,
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I was going to ask that, lol.
Kirk... 18:10.... You missed out on an awesome chance of being the Knight in Shining Armor and carried the damsel in distress over the water allowing the feet of the fair maiden to remain dry. 😂
You should have gotten yourself a better and lighter sander with propper "paper". I know they're expensive but in my experience nothing in the electric orbital sander category beats the Mirka system. I use both Mirka's and Festool's at work and truly, the Finnish brand is definitively lighter in weight, more aggressive for stock removal, just (if not better) build quality, and easier to handle/fine tune than the German. For your use I would have tried a Mirka CEROS 650CV 150mm with a hard backing pad for the flat parts/soft for the contours, and Abranet Ace or SIC NS type abrasives starting at 40 grits. But oh'well, the job is done now and you're still living in the same boat ....
That sucks,walnut shells would have done a nice job of that .
This is great! Every decent RUclips sailing channel needs some “o glorious sanding” to keep things real. Mads would be proud.
I got exhausted just watching you two scrape and sand. Yikes, you two have energy! Love your videos. Keep em' coming.
This episode should be called "Sanding Soulianis" ;)
You guys work unbelievably hard yet make it look so much fun. That's the magic of this show and what makes you both great to watch. Looking forward to seeing you back in the water again and off on more adventures. Seeing the world through your eyes is great as you paint a pretty picture.
Thank you Paul!
That is a daunting task for you two young people to take on but you showed the world you have the ability to power through with the scraping and sanding. Then on to the joy of applying the copper coat which was easier on your bodies. You will be so happy when you are finished with the bottom refurbishing.
Thanks Bill!
Pure love, ❤️ congratulations and thanks for inviting us on your journey... in these difficult times your are a blessing in our days 🙏🏻 thanks...
Lauren is such a good-natured lady. Kirk, you are one lucky man!
I can not get enough of you guys. I'm sitting here glued to the screen and the closing music starts playing. It's been 21:19 out of my life and I was just engrossed in this weeks challenge. You job to hard apparently. Thanks for sharing with us. Be safe and I can't wait to see what's next.
This honestly is the main reason I haven't purchased a sailboat. I literally do not have that amount of time in my life. I'm am so impressed with you guys. Well done! Stay safe IRL!
There is a lot of truth in saying "the best way to sail is on other people's boats."
The amount of Common Knowledge you guys have is Amazing.... from wiring to rigging from fiberglass work to plumbing.. and, lets talk about filming and editing videos?? Nothing stops you guys !! I forgot about Van customization.... Love you guys !!!
What a huge project this was for you kids, but it had to be done! So much scraping and sanding would have driven most people absolutely bonkers! I admire your sticktoitiveness! So many thru-hulls but thank goodness you fixed that old one. The next posting will be showing us the copper coat process and I am looking forward to seeing just how that is done. Way back in the day, I remember my Dad using what he called "Red Lead" on the bottom of his old wooden hulls. I guess that turned out to be a big NO NO when it came to the damage it did to the environment. He eventually graduated up to fibreglas hulls and that made maintenance much easier over the long run. He would have loved watching you kids and your beautiful boat. The last boat he owned was an Islander 30 MKII.
You guys are heroes. That is massive effort. That kind of work would make me crazy!
The work NEVER seems to end!
Copper Coat is a really great idea. It's every two weeks for bottom cleaning in Florida, every 3 weeks with ablative. I'm glad that they still make it. Having someone sand blast it, is a lot easier. :)
I agree blasting is way to go but they mentioned the yard doesn't allow blasting that's why they went the wax on off route.
You guys are great and danged hard working! I feel like for every week of sailing you do, there is 2-months of work on the boat. I'm glad you are able to keep your spirits up!
Hi Kirk & Lauren -
I am refitting a Pearson 36-2 which was equipped with centerboard - raised by a complicated steel cable, sheaves and tubes, to a winch on the coachroof. While a CB can provide some performance advantage, most cruisers I have spoken with find their CB to be a hassle that provides only modest benefit. Also, a CB can be dangerous if the cable snaps and the CB drops while running downwind in heavy weather. They can also jam in the down position due to corrosion, breakage and/or barnacles.
So I scrapped my entire CB & mechanism - I was shocked to find that the sheave box covering the hole in the bilge was ready to break apart and sink the boat. I sealed the bottom of the CB trunk with SS bolts and a floor of epoxy/chopped glass, then poured in cement grout to fill the cavity. Now I have a little more ballast and no potential points of failure in that area.
I proceeded with sandblasting the hull, fairing & sanding, 6 coats of white/gray barrier (Sea Hawk Tuff) and 3 coats of relatively hard self-polishing copolymer antifouling (Sea Hawk Biocop 38% Cu + 4% Zn). If doing over I think I would instead use a barrier with a longer overcoat window (Pettit Protect) and a copolymer with higher Cu (Pettit Ultima-60 SR 60% Cu + 2% Irgarol).
Wow. What a job! I commend you as I think your doing a great job and removing the unused through hull was a very wise idea. Can't wait to see the finished job.
Ok guys i finished watching 57 videos lol. I have 2 more to go to watch all of them but you posted this one and well i couldn't resist. Starting from the beginning i feel as if i have been on the journey with you. Cant wait for the next one. Stay safe and healthy.
You guys always do your homework. So you have certainly read the many sagas of the pros and cons of Copper Coat. Good luck with your experiment.
Brave people, that's quite a chunk of work!
Gosh same thing happened to us. No rain forever. And then when we have it all ready to apply the antifouling...boom...the heavens let loose is we had to wait to get started with the Coppercoat. Look forward to the next episode! You will LOVE Coppercoat! Rebecca on SV Brick House
That hose clamp from the sander to the little shop vac is a great work around idea ! I'll have to try to remember it next time I've got heavy sanding to do .tks
It took me quite a while at Home Depot rummaging around through various electrical and plumbing aisles to finally find a coupling that worked.
It is interesting how seeing the two of you in Tyvek suits and respirators is much less scary than watching people on the news wearing the same equipment as we deal with Covid 19. Nice teamwork on the hull prep.
I was one of four that copper coated a friends 44' Freedom about 9-10 months ago. Wish I could have known about your plans, would liked to have shared our strategy. It turned out great, but there was a lot of changed plans, and improvising which we believe made it a success.
Let's hear it! We're working on a blog post about the tips and tricks we learned while applying, but it would be great to get others’ insights as well.
Great job you two. Thank you for your hard work and great videos. You two bring happiness to some very tough times these days. However, I do like the mosaic stripy look!
Really nice hull prep. One of the best I’ve seen. Enjoy the videos.
Y'all are killing it!
Thank you both for bringing us along. Love your videos and the way you work together.
I really like that track from when the storm was coming.
Wow - after watching Sailing Britican’s crazy experience with Copper coat, seems like a job for the pros. Hope it worked for you guys - can’t wait to find out. 4 coats, done quickly by multiple guys for 4.5 hours and then sanded perfectly... wow!
That's the funny thing -- they hired the job out, and those workers didn't apply it properly. When it comes to your own boat, YOU are the pro. You are the only one who cares enough about your boat to make sure it's done right. That's why we did it all ourselves.
Good day from Vancouver Island , hope this comment find you both in good health. I own a 79 T37 but a deep keel. Great to watch your projects. Saw you cooking with the new pressure cooker . Thought I should mention I got the magma 10pc all stainless,(Ceramica bad)) nesting cookware set and it fits perfectly in the lower cupboard (above the fridge) ,saves mega room.Also when cooking in the pressure cooker you can use the pots with the trivet inside the cooker and save you the hassle of trying to wash the pressures cooker in the tiny sink ,just dump the water out from the bottom and put her away. I’ve been avoiding my rebuild rudder project so thanks for the inspiration for my needed motivation. tight sheets and fair winds...
Yeah...you are taking the Coppercoat antifouling plunge! We removed all of our antifouling paint too (there is no easy way as you found out!) and applied Coppercoat on to Brick House too! She was launched on December 10, so about 4 months ago. We used to clean the bottom and it would take 2 hours once a month, pretty much from the very beginning of launching her. No bottom paint ever worked for us! So after we did a serious blister repair job, we stripped the bottom and applied Coppercoat too. Now our cleanings once a month take 15 or 20 minutes with the wipe of the softest sponge. Slime just clouds off. The boat who has had our exact marinas and sailing time, launched 2 weeks after us, is COVERED in barnacles, and all kinds of growth! They used the top antifouling paint the marina offered. So needless to say we are quite happy with Coppercoat. We had our suspicions because we didn’t/couldn’t follow the directions perfectly...but it appears that the Coppercoat is a HUGE success! I am glad that process (and filming of it) is over now and we can get on with sailing with Covid19 settles down! Hope your Coppercoat is a success too! -Rebecca on SV Brick House
Good to hear it’s working well for you. We’ve been quite happy with ours thus far. :D
Sailing Soulianis ah ok...post dated video. How long have you had it? And what is your wiping schedule? -Rebecca
I really enjoyed watching this episode and thank you for posting more information about it on your website. I had never heard of this and it is very interesting.
Nice job removing the old paint! I hope you have good success with the copper coat, and you guys stay safe and healthy! 😍⛵👍⛵👍😍
Thank you!
Finally got caught up with all your fantastic videos today! I’ve been wanting to ask if you two would ever consider doing a q&a video segment or an instagram story q&a sometime in the near future, we’d love to know more about you guys and your dreams for the future!
Hi Dylan, we have done a number of Q&A videos with Patrons, which keeps the questions to a manageable flow ensuring we're able to answer everyone individually. We are also considering doing something similar in the future for everyone, so feel free to throw out a few questions you'd like to ask and we'll add them to the list we're compiling.
One word: RESPECT!👍🏼
You two are a great team. That's a lot of work. Hope the copper coat works out for you.
Thanks Gary!
That scraping is giving me chilly bumps 😬😬😬😬
Awesome episode and epic hull project. Who says Kirk hates work 🤔 As Mads from Sail Life would say...sanding, glorious sanding 😁
Hull is hell ! Good job. Take care.
Last year we moved all of the sink through hulls to above the waterline, I had the pros do the reglassing of the holes. I watched carefully. It's a lot easier than you think and they didn't cut back the glass very far or very deeply. They made "snowflakes" out of stripped mat and taped the holes inside. Then just epoxied the "snowflakes" into the holes from the outside. and then sanded smooth with fairing compound and gel coated the patch. Now I know how to do it.
what a team well done
Hi there! I'm a new subscriber and have watched most of your videos.....I really enjoy your channel, and am glad that I subscribed!!!! I have noticed that you have great 'pride in ownership' as well as 'attention to detail' I'm the same way and it's refreshing to see those qualities in action in your videos, Wether on your boat or van. I'm looking forward to your next video! Cheers!
Great video - thanks. Very surprised your boatyard didn't require you to tent the boat with all the bottom work you did - especially the sanding. Looking forward to seeing the finished product. Cheers!
An amazing amount of work
I like watching people work , thanks! Kidding , especially as I have the same project that I hope I never do. Glad you did not find any major repairs under the paint! The best thing is if your really lucky this may be the only time you ever do this if your really smart! I've done it once so I hope never again! That small hole is plenty big enough repair , 12/1 is the suggest max required . Nice job! Warren
Keep that boy around. He is a hard worker. Great job and attention to detail. I’m not so patient - I hired a blaster to come in and strip my hull for $800.00. It took them a little more than an hour to do. It was worth it.
Yup, sounds absolutely worth it.
Wow guys, great effort... that must have taken an incredible amount of patience!
I need to do that to my boat next year. Every time I think about how much work it is I wonder why I didn't buy a kayak instead. Can't wait to see the Copper Coat go on!!
Hi we use cumclean a. Turps like product broom on and it faLLS off right back to the white surface coat , some areas will need a scrape that’s on soft anti fouling ,don’t use hard fouling that’s for race boats so you can scrub between races and have anti fouling left to protect , copper coat well it has its issues mainly in the prep department. And the product in not proven yet every body I talk to complains about it but we found soft paint lasts
If only my better half will sand the hull with me 😂😂. Well done. Great video.
After spending 6 hours video editing, the mind-numbing task of sanding was almost a welcomed change! Almost -- keyword. Couldn't pay me to do it again. -L
Wow what a job and you are doing a great job stay safe and thanks for sharing.
Thanks John!
You guys are doing a really good job, I would want to buy your boat after you, tons of labor invested in that thing! That looks like a HYUGE pain in the ass! Good thing you wore those respirators, that stuff is probably toxic as heck. On the bright side, you can use this as a sales video when you go to sell that thing, show how well you took care of it and how well its been fixed.
The ablative paint certainly is. Fortunately Coppercoat isn't 👍
I hope you had a good look at Sailing Britican and the major issues they have had with Coppercoat. I was also advised against Coppercoat for my boat in Port Phillip Bay Melbourne Australia as it at the mouth of a river and quite eustarine and really doesnt work well here. The yard manager at my club said all coppercoat was useful was for was an undercoat for conventional anti-fouling paint. Other people are very happy with the stuff... Anyway Good Luck
You guys are awesome, both of you are such hard workers. I look forward to your videos stay safe..
Thanks George!
I’m going to have to make this exact same decision soon on my 40 year old Islander 36, when I eventually have to haul it probably sometime this year.
Realy hard work!!
You might check out a couple of videos on the sailing channel "SailingBritican". They had issues with copper coat, and had the factory guys re-do the bottom a second time. Lots of good info.
We saw their video and read about their entire saga before starting. We were pretty confident their issues were a result of the application process and not the product itself.
I remember doing my boat and raised the plimsoll line 2 inches so much fun .
Guys, I never saw a bottom so clean on a 20 y/o boat! Well done! would you mind sharing what grid did you use after the craping?
Oh Glorious Sanding... ummm, sorry, I thought this was the 'Sail Life' youtube channel... Nevermind!
Hang in there. It will be worth it.
string fiberglass is better than bondo , and a trick is wax , or parchment paper put over filler use a plastic scraper to smooth out , once dry paper pulls off , with a perfect smooth finish , minimizes sanding needs , and eliminates , pulls and voids
Do get the boat lifted and set down again to be able to get the places where it is supported and stand on? Or is that made later?
Really nice vid, Hugs from Denmark
Fortunately no lifting is necessary, the yard just moves the stands around for us. It’s called re-blocking.
@@SailingSoulianis ohh thats nice they can do that. So you do the first part, then reblock and the other places. Gonna be nice, or well it most likely already is.😉😊
Oh! Hard work! I am doing the same in my boat now. I will be ready soon for upload more videos to my youtube channel! Come to Galicia’s coast if you have the chance, it is beatiful!
Barnacles on the prop can easily go away if you put a strong white vinegar onto kitchen paper towels and wrap them around. Wait 30 min or so, the resulting chemical reaction will allow you to easily remove the little things. Strong scotch Brite should do the rest.
Greetings from the Baltic Sea. ⛵️cheers
SOULMATES FOR SURE !!!!!!!
Looking GOOD!!
OMG WOW what an episoe !!! What a toooon of work. Good for you guys. How are you handeling where the boat supports were?
I realize that this may be too late, but i have the same T37 (mine is a deep fin keel) and the same Autostream prop (which I love). I just use a brass wire wheel to clean it. You can get the proper zincs (and you should have some extras) BUT be very careful when you put the blades back together if you take them apart. YOU SHOULD NOT have to take the blades apart to put on new O rings. Just stretch them over the blade. If you do take it apart, be very careful to get the blades back in exactly the same place on the internal gears. Hope you have a sharks tooth cutter in front of your prop---you never know when you might hit a floating line. I hit one in Miami harbor. You need to grease that prop often as the Lubriplate they recommend is way too soluble. I use the turquoise stuff and it is expensive but much better and last awhile.
I will be interested in your experience with Copper coat---I do not see how it can last as long as their manufacturer claims. I have used must about every thing else. I used Trinidad for many years successfully as a hard epoxy that I could scrub--lasted 3 years in the tropics. Now am seasonal so it does not much matter what I use as long as it has some copper in it. I just don't understand how the sellers think the copper will leach through the epoxy. You did not have water in voids, did you? So how does the copper leach? Anyway. You have learned a lot. I have previously talked about my not liking the safety aspects of dinghies on davits when making passages. You need a bimini, but I really do not like a lot of arches out there when it blows---sails you cannot take down. Think about it. Best to both of you.
Pete you have no idea how spot on your advice WOULD have been had we heard it before working on the prop ;) You'll be yelling at the screen with your head in your hands shortly as we share our autostream prop experience upon relaunching...
Hi Kirk and Lauren, is this in the Port Charlotte boatyard? And good call on glassing in the old transducer, Lady K almost sunk when their old transducer broke off, I don’t know if you follow them but that was a scary experience good video to look up if you haven’t seen it!
OMG BRUTAL DUDE
@20:20; Is that a plastic thru-hull fitting you’re pointing to? (Adjacent to the old transducer mounting point?) If it is, I would advocate replacing it (And any other plastic thru-hulls, if they are more than 5 years old. Not sure how to tell the age of the thru-hulls, but any sign of brittleness and they MUST be replaced. I’m sure you can work out the ramifications of not replacing them and having one fail!) The beauty of copper/bronze thru-hulls is that oxidation/corrosion/deterioration is readily apparent visually. (Green for oxidation...)
Scraping off forty years of anti-foul is mind-numbingly tedious work (Here in Australia, the most cost effective way is to Soda-blast it, reasonably expensive, but would only take the contractor a matter of a few hours and the hull is almost perfectly fair and finished - excluding weird surprises (e.g. epoxy over primer over ablative.
Also, unfortunately too late now, but next time you re- oat with anti-foul, please consider silicone. Amazing results and endurance (I’m told far superior to copper-coat or any other cuprous oxide...)
For silicone to work your boat needs to average a certain speed through the water; ours isn't fast enough.
Given a modern penny is only copper plated making up around 2.5% of its weight 30 lbs of copper would make around 1.8 million pennies.
Just the sound makes my skin crawl!🤪
amasing boat ceap rocking it you are doing a amasing work
all the love from norway
I am doing this now on my Albin Vegas just finished one side . This is really hard work 😝 hop is the last time.
There are approximately 145 copper pennies in a pound, so multiply by 25 lbs and that bag of copper should have 3,625 pennies worth of copper. Great videos as always Lauren and Kirk!
Except that you have to go to collectors to get pennies made from solid copper.
Maybe the subject of a future episode, but did you end up doing anything to scrape/coat the swing keel?
You two do such a great job and I absolutely love your channel.
Yep! You'll see in a future episode... We end up having to apply our old antifouling paint to our centerboard because we didn't have enough time in the slings to apply Coppercoat to it.
Glad you don't have any blisters on your bottoms. I hear that can be painful 😀😀
How do you get the spots where the stand is?
When I drive around in my van and travel trailer, I am giddy there is no bottom sanding involved. LOL. I have done all this many times. FYI, there is a 40 grit, 8" professional vac system bottom paint removal system - Made out of RI. Requires some skill to use. With it, I could take down a caked up 40' bottom with no scraping in about 10 hours.
This is where we drew the line! We had our bottom paint done a couple of times, by the guys at the boatyard!
Did you consider a 2 part barrier coat after scraping and sanding the gelcoat?
Did you guys check the moisture in the stripped hull and rudder, with a moisture meter , before re- coatings ?
I did this on a 10 foot jon boat with bottom paint, the boat was from the 60s and god knows how long the bottom paint was put on it, but I can't imagine having to do on this scale.
Question A 4000 PSI pressure washer with Sand Blaster attachment ? Or Soda Blast ? ONE DAY Less gouges on the Gel coat. That was LABOR INTENSIVE. What am I missing OH Just read about the YARD " even with containment plastic Area under the boat and Wet Vacs ? Bummer
Davits, heavy dinghy, solar panels off the stern can all be dangerous if you're hit with a wave astern. I know a lot of people take that risk; be mindful in your decisions as there are no free lunches. Moving batteries, chain and anchors, water tanks, etc to center line is a safe choice. Copper is an excellent choice in bottom paint for both efficacy and long-term value... safe travels...
The very end scene is Walter and Jesse going hard.
The fun part boat maintenance ;-)
As Mads from Sail Life would say.......”Oh glorious sanding”.
As we know he has done this job already!
That's a whole lot of labor! Great job though. Personally, I would have put a through hull in that hole with a valve for possible use for wash down, Etc. Or, live tank for bait fish? Good job though.
Looks good! Everyone has to experience that. It's definitely a pain in the ass.
You really need to get you a few round wood tapers plugs and a few wedges that you can just tap I to any holes that open in an emergency and keep them handy with a hammer to any through hulls just in case be a shame to loose the boat for lack of a 60 cent price of wood
Got em! And they're labeled :)
Great video, 2 thumbs up.
will be interesting to see how the copper coat does . And y did you chose it bottoms up great job love you guys stay safe
Hello from Greece! I would like to know what tool do you use to scratch the moravia ?? nice videos well done
You shoot one video in the snow and Aspen dental is advertising on your channel. 👍
What a mission! Super impressive to watch. How do you know all this?
Spoiler alert, we knew none of it before starting!
Nice work guys. Did you consider adding a barrier coat under the copper coat? Any guidance from Copper Coat on that point?
Yep and yep! Stay tuned for our next ep :)