MSI Tricked Me!

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  • Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024

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  • @johnk.7836
    @johnk.7836 3 месяца назад +32

    That quick release for the NVME is slick. And the PCIE release. And CAMM2. And the M.2 expansion card. I'm excited to finally seeing some meaningful stuff being added to MOBOs. Though... you were credible Paul, up till the AI stuff near the end ;)

  • @GTechOfficial
    @GTechOfficial 3 месяца назад +178

    Thanks for making a (mostly) anti-AI coverage video so I could actually stick through it without rolling my eyes

    • @guap3228
      @guap3228 3 месяца назад +14

      I love how the majority of the world thinks ai is like a week away from taking over but anytime I use it I get confidently incorrect answers to half of my prompts

    • @smartgorilla
      @smartgorilla 3 месяца назад +2

      @@guap3228 i dont need to work like that. its like calling IT in whatever country and never getting answer or resolution

    • @MMAOdin
      @MMAOdin 3 месяца назад

      @@guap3228AI literally already gets used in most IT jobs, been like that for years. AI is here, its just not what you guys think it is

    • @Mr.Genesis
      @Mr.Genesis 3 месяца назад

      ​@@guap3228what is free to use for regular people vs what is actually available to companies that create algorithms that force a video in your feed are completely different

    • @Endymion.
      @Endymion. 3 месяца назад +1

      Jokes on you the whole video is made by AI 😂

  • @jasonvardy991
    @jasonvardy991 3 месяца назад +12

    Socket 1851? I think Paul meant to say Socket-who can possibly know? Hem hem

    • @chemislife
      @chemislife 3 месяца назад +3

      You mean he wasn't supposed to say SOCKET 1851. But Steve said SOCKET 1851 multiple times in his videos. Is there a problem with saying SOCKET 1851?

  • @EricXVII
    @EricXVII 3 месяца назад +125

    I appreciate the endeavor to show as little AI as possible.

    • @XxNightmare128xX
      @XxNightmare128xX 3 месяца назад

      Kinda tired of the AI hysteria. You people are going out of your way to avoid something that can't be stopped.

    • @ylstorage7085
      @ylstorage7085 3 месяца назад

      AI is the future my man, for better or worse.
      Just like nuclear weapons. Iran will have them, Saudis within the next 10.

  • @WayStedYou
    @WayStedYou 3 месяца назад +21

    It's like groundhog day and Paul is still on day one of Computex.

  • @JeckNoTree
    @JeckNoTree 3 месяца назад +5

    The GPU with The M.2 Slots looks soo cool and seem useful! I paid for the PCIE, so I might use all of it as well, rather just wasting space.

  • @Z020852
    @Z020852 3 месяца назад +24

    Best part about CAMM: Cooling.
    1. Desktop : No need to ditch the front fan on large air coolers. Unless somebody puts insanely oversized coolers on these.
    2. Laptop : You won't end up with RAM chips facing the motherboard anymore.

    • @MrAcuta73
      @MrAcuta73 3 месяца назад +6

      And higher density and an easier path to run traces to the CPU that will, at least potentially, allow for higher stable clocks and tighter timings.

  • @azagrial
    @azagrial 3 месяца назад +5

    That gpu lock thingy is amazing. Hopefully it comes to all boards.

  • @Tuxedo512
    @Tuxedo512 3 месяца назад +7

    Steve is throwing a rave for them adding the debug led

  • @c99kfm
    @c99kfm 3 месяца назад +8

    I really liked that GPU with the dragon head in between the fans (rather than covering one of them). Whether it's AI generated or not, if I wanted a show GPU for vertical placement in a windowed case, I'd be willing to shell out extra cash for something like that, even if it's just plastic and has a slight negative impact on cooling performance.

    • @systemBuilder
      @systemBuilder 3 месяца назад +2

      Maybe you can AI generate it & 3D print it? You'd have to paint it yourself!

    • @tazboy1934
      @tazboy1934 3 месяца назад

      Offgasing

  • @WayStedYou
    @WayStedYou 3 месяца назад +3

    5:44 thank goodness someone is doing it instead of throwing 20-27 110 amp stages on an AM5 board that doesnt need anywhere near that much

  • @HXRDWIREDGaming
    @HXRDWIREDGaming 3 месяца назад +3

    i absolutely love when all the techtubers go to an event, so much fun

  • @Nobe_Oddy
    @Nobe_Oddy 3 месяца назад +3

    Dayum.. it was DAY 1 and you were already losing your voice?? lol I hope you healed up good :) - It's been such a cool week!!

  • @ytc6227
    @ytc6227 3 месяца назад +5

    Being on a non AI diet is difficult these days. We are gonna need AI-free logos things like pasta and rice on on grocery store shelves.

    • @wargamingrefugee9065
      @wargamingrefugee9065 3 месяца назад

      But if we do that, the cult of A.I. will demand logos and stickers and I don't know what-all on their stiff too. Where will it end?!?

  • @heickelrrx
    @heickelrrx 3 месяца назад +24

    Gigabyte have AI PSU, AI Case, AI Motherboard, AI SSD

    • @krjal3038
      @krjal3038 3 месяца назад +11

      I love that youtube offers to translate your comment into English

    • @spry_guy
      @spry_guy 3 месяца назад +1

      @@krjal3038 If you're not a geek, you won't be able to read that.

    • @First-Name_Last-Name
      @First-Name_Last-Name 3 месяца назад +4

      Shoulda renamed their company to GAIGAIBYTE

    • @manuelhernandez2017
      @manuelhernandez2017 3 месяца назад

      AI cables

  • @kuyache2
    @kuyache2 3 месяца назад +1

    CAMM orientation means we will soon see Tower style heat sinks with fans for it and water cooling blocks for it....AIO's that also includes the CAMM and M.2's aside from the Processor.... Heck we may even see the VRM's included in the water cooling loops... DIY Fest!

  • @420C0BRA
    @420C0BRA 3 месяца назад +20

    did he just say... m.2 drive slot IN the grafix card?!?!? wow!!!

    • @Mikey109105
      @Mikey109105 3 месяца назад +1

      Only thing missing on that GPU was video out ports, because I didn't see any.

    • @FatCatFanatic
      @FatCatFanatic 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, I don't know how cooling's gonna work with that ... 😕?

    • @smartgorilla
      @smartgorilla 3 месяца назад +3

      they can do that already

    • @R3TR0J4N
      @R3TR0J4N 3 месяца назад +1

      ​@@FatCatFanaticsame thoughts temps are no small thing for an M.2

    • @ShermSpinner
      @ShermSpinner 3 месяца назад +6

      @@Mikey109105 because Paul is wrong and it's not actually a a graphics card.
      It's a re-design of the existing m.2 xpander card.
      Its essentially a fancy pcie x16 to m.2 adapter.

  • @rvdeddrift
    @rvdeddrift 3 месяца назад +1

    That M.2 mechanism gives ya that fizz! Lol! That's really, really well executed! Nice work you two! Thanks for keepin us posted and entertained as usual!

  • @paulanchor867
    @paulanchor867 3 месяца назад +16

    I had to break a motherboard down to change the battery. Talk about user friendly.

    • @logyz450
      @logyz450 3 месяца назад +1

      Threw it on the ground! -Turtle Island.

    • @HIIMUsc
      @HIIMUsc 3 месяца назад +2

      i've got the X670E Aorus Master and it takes 2 Hours to change the darn CMOS-Battery (2 weeks later it turned out that the Mobo was default) they gotta rethink the CMOS-Battery placement tbh.

    • @tim3172
      @tim3172 3 месяца назад +1

      @@HIIMUsc "The mobo was default"
      Do you mean... defective?
      If it took you two hours to unscrew the backplate and chipset heatsink, I simply don't know how to help you.

    • @wargamingrefugee9065
      @wargamingrefugee9065 3 месяца назад

      @@tim3172 Just looked at the MoBo and I believe him. Depending on the case and what needs to be moved out of the way to gain access (and let's be honest, we'd all take some time to blow out the dust and wipe down some panels), two hours seems reasonable to me.

    • @HIIMUsc
      @HIIMUsc 3 месяца назад

      @@tim3172 you're right, it was defective, my bad.
      it took me 2 hours in total, disassembling the Computer to get the Mobo out and putting it back in after the replacement, i surely was pissed, because if the CMOS battery woul be hidden by a M.2 Cooler or not hidden at all, you wouldn't need to first disassemble the whole PC and possibly could get the warranty voided 🫥

  • @evlkenevl2721
    @evlkenevl2721 3 месяца назад +1

    M.2 drives have needed a competent retention method since they've existed. There was no reason to have to deal with those microscopic screws.

  • @smartgorilla
    @smartgorilla 3 месяца назад +1

    bo one wants ai. its not going to pay my salary. its going to do the opposite. its just malware

  • @docbrody
    @docbrody 3 месяца назад +1

    Good on them for including the debug LEDs

  • @BowsettesFury
    @BowsettesFury 3 месяца назад +1

    Don’t care how they were designed those graphics cards are bad @$$😍

  • @ishu87
    @ishu87 3 месяца назад +12

    No AI!!!!! Thank you ❤

  • @joenida2253
    @joenida2253 3 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for the coverage and good work! Covered stuff two other youtubers missed

  • @StretchDattass
    @StretchDattass 3 месяца назад

    If I didnt have a thing against buying any of MSIs shit, as well as nGreedia, id actually consider the 4060 design, its cool, different, and wouldnt block airflow. if only theyd put the design parts on, ya know, THE PART OF THE GPU YOU ACTUALLY SEE WHEN ITS PLUGGED THE FUK IN!!! Ive never understood the point of putting all the cool design shit on what is, effectively, the bottom of the damn card for 99% of cases.

  • @ealtar
    @ealtar 3 месяца назад

    "motherboards used to have debug LEDs"
    yeah well motherboards USED to have 8 slots for ram .... can we have THAT BACK thx

  • @AmUnRA256
    @AmUnRA256 3 месяца назад +1

    these GPU m.2 slots are nice

  • @deadpin
    @deadpin 3 месяца назад

    AI isn't the problem here. All the new motherboards without 12VO power / keeping the stupid 24 pin ATX connector is the problem...

  • @doryiii
    @doryiii 3 месяца назад

    smol correction: that was a CAMM2 module not LPCAMM2, but exciting nevertheless! Also that GPU + SSD combo is very nice, but not sure if Intel consumer CPUs can do x8x4x4 bifurcation (I think a lot of AMD chips can)

  • @grayaj23
    @grayaj23 3 месяца назад +1

    keep it up man, this has been great

  • @xadbre
    @xadbre 3 месяца назад

    5 slot graphics card.
    /sigh
    Cool concept though. I'm sure it will be eight thousand US Dollars. Gotta keep that NVIDIA stock marching towards 10Trillion!

  • @mrmarecki1
    @mrmarecki1 3 месяца назад

    Regarding CAMM: I'd prefer if manufacturers made something with connectors that don't break, like current DIMM modules, instead of inventing connectors that can be replaced :)

  • @Gavrev
    @Gavrev 3 месяца назад

    Best line of Computex 2024 - "Probably not going to be the best in terms of airflow since you have a dragon blocking half of your air intake" , Paul Heimlich.
    Modest but interesting kit on the MSI stall (not including the dragons which are wonderfully sculptured and coloured!) 'AI'l is forgiven.

  • @sjewkes1
    @sjewkes1 3 месяца назад

    I genuinely wish they would debut something like those dragon-shroud GPUs. Bring back insane looking hardware in 2025. Hell, even making their offerings identical on AMD and Intel side of things would be great (I'm sick to death of Intel getting the better white hardware while being the worse platform.)

  • @jonevansauthor
    @jonevansauthor 3 месяца назад

    Those swappable NVME drives built into the graphics card are nice. Very clean, they can take advantage of good cooling, and you can seriously upgrade your storage with hardly any effort. It will be interesting to see if desktop CAMM ends up outperforming DRAM and if not, if another new standard crops up that beats both.

  • @DarthChewie
    @DarthChewie 3 месяца назад

    Any CAMM2 expected on x870 boards? Ryzen would benefit from tighter timings!

  • @OriginalMergatroid
    @OriginalMergatroid 3 месяца назад

    M.2 in a video card is brilliant IF the card can access it directy. If not, it's just another gimmick. That 4090 is freaking amazing (drool) but I refuse to sell my car to buy it.

  • @Chaos_God_of_Fate
    @Chaos_God_of_Fate 3 месяца назад

    I really like the idea of the added hot-swappable M.2 on the GPU, you could easily pop it out, swap another drive in and pop it back in- I always need a way to hot-swap my drives and that seems like a good way to do it! I love MSI boards, mostly for their BIOS and of course for the good quality overall as well.

  • @Mikey109105
    @Mikey109105 3 месяца назад

    So...where exactly was the video out on that gpu with the m.2 slots, because I saw zero???? Also in your defense for the AI bit at the end, as you said, you got tricked into showing it and didn't realize it until the very end, so really thats on MSI for breaking the rule, not you, but still some good non-AI coverage.

  • @OntarioGuy430
    @OntarioGuy430 3 месяца назад

    I really hope they start working on reducing temperatures - CPU's are pretty good these days - but you could replace your furnace with a 14900k

  • @patricklee8552
    @patricklee8552 3 месяца назад +1

    not so much needing the AI but when are we going to see a Mainframe supercomputer in a Mini case that is air cooled?

  • @thseed7
    @thseed7 3 месяца назад

    I only want to hear about AI. Don't care about learning about computers or components, only AI. AI developed by AI

  • @gusgreen3104
    @gusgreen3104 3 месяца назад

    I will upgrade just for the debug LED. Best feature ever.
    Big finger people union just approved the PCI express button.

  • @John-mn1bp
    @John-mn1bp 3 месяца назад

    I’ve been looking into PCIe cards with removable sleds similar to what’s going on with the new GPUs. Guess I’ll stop looking

  • @donnydarko7624
    @donnydarko7624 3 месяца назад

    Ram on laptops should already be placed on the back of the circuit board right behind the CPU to minimize the distance.

  • @niko1even
    @niko1even 3 месяца назад

    i'm super excited to see how ITX boards will change considering that mobos have the option of CAMM now.

  • @thebigopu2007
    @thebigopu2007 3 месяца назад

    With the potential for a new memory standard that may have increased speeds, would it make XMP and EXPO obsolete?

  • @Krunari
    @Krunari 3 месяца назад

    Thought the dragon shrouds on the GPU's were super cool before hearing they were AI generated....

  • @luisneves210
    @luisneves210 3 месяца назад

    You are forgiven! 😜 The second GPU with a dragon (with the dragon between the fans) is amazing. I want one! 😊

  • @BeeWhere
    @BeeWhere 3 месяца назад

    I love my Tomahawk x570, but the yellow on the x870 is a hard no from me. Love the addition of the debug led so we will see how the other boards look.

  • @goblinphreak2132
    @goblinphreak2132 3 месяца назад

    MSI needs to drop intel/realtek nics and exclusively use marvell on AMD....

  • @Chaos_God_of_Fate
    @Chaos_God_of_Fate 3 месяца назад

    I could tell those were AI generated. I don't even know exactly what it is about AI art that makes it easy to pick out- that was my first thought when seeing those dragon cards.

  • @mysticdre321
    @mysticdre321 3 месяца назад +1

    Haha. You said 1851

  • @854Daryl
    @854Daryl 3 месяца назад

    I'm waiting for the day when they ship a PC the size of a wallet along with a 3 cubic foot light box for the people who like that junk to put on their desks.

  • @robertthompson7242
    @robertthompson7242 3 месяца назад

    will you get in trouble for calling it the "1851" motherboard? everyone else seems to be talking around some sort of restriction on that. . . . .

  • @Artista_Frustrado
    @Artista_Frustrado 3 месяца назад

    glad to see the debug LED returning to Motherboards, they need to stay as the standard again & i would love if we don't have to call the EU again
    also the GPUs with M.2 drive bays seem pretty neat, sadly I'm the kind of guy that puts their PC against the wall so is not that much hassle free (big respect to the case manufacturers that do the rotated MoBo that have the full IO on the top)

  • @leviathanpriim3951
    @leviathanpriim3951 3 месяца назад

    That x870 tomahawk with 5Gig nic, sounds pricey AF.

  • @KSPRAYDAD
    @KSPRAYDAD 3 месяца назад

    Someone soon to be replaced by AI laughing in the background about AI artwork.

  • @mojoneko8303
    @mojoneko8303 3 месяца назад

    1:20 I've found that a chopstick works well for depressing the latch on the PCIe slot.

  • @unsivilaudio
    @unsivilaudio 3 месяца назад

    tbf MSI challenged users to create those AI designs, and rewarded the winners with new graphics cards. :)

  • @parioceanchicago
    @parioceanchicago 3 месяца назад

    I really like MSI work. My next mother board and probaly GPU will be MSI.

  • @KYSMO
    @KYSMO 3 месяца назад

    Thanks for making a (mostly) anti-AI coverage video so I could actually stick through it without rolling my eyes

  • @howardhamaker2708
    @howardhamaker2708 3 месяца назад

    MSI is dead to me. They stopped making AMD graphic cards. Shame.

  • @matchamate
    @matchamate 3 месяца назад

    I putting that suprim in the new phanteks evolv x2 case. It's perfect for it!

  • @DGENexMACHINA
    @DGENexMACHINA 3 месяца назад +2

    QOL FTW!

  • @bumperxx1
    @bumperxx1 3 месяца назад

    It's crowded because its 4 years after covid and everyone is getting back to normal

  • @seydaneen8970
    @seydaneen8970 3 месяца назад

    i actually like the kind of green they used on one of those dragon cards. don't like the shroud design much but i'd be interested in a card with green accents like that

  • @maddhatter0
    @maddhatter0 3 месяца назад

    I dislike the look of the new tomahawk board. That is unfortunate for me at least. I loved those boards.

  • @Zonker66
    @Zonker66 3 месяца назад

    They should all be able to use a GPU release button as well. How do you copyright that?

  • @OntarioGuy430
    @OntarioGuy430 3 месяца назад

    I have a feeling that the 4090 fusion cooler was designed for a 5090

  • @Fester_
    @Fester_ 3 месяца назад

    GPU M.2 is cool, i missed that. Thanks for the look. Pints are on me.

  • @ytube777
    @ytube777 3 месяца назад

    No AI! But maybe a directed mic to suppress outside noise would be nice.

  • @ZinoAmare
    @ZinoAmare 3 месяца назад

    sponsored by the most hated company of 2024 Asus xD

  • @bighammer3464
    @bighammer3464 3 месяца назад

    What are people doing to the graphics cards that handling it just breaks the card?

  • @nunjafam
    @nunjafam 3 месяца назад

    Oh no AI I said I wouldn't show you.... Oops forget to edit that out... foh

  • @Zonker66
    @Zonker66 3 месяца назад

    Wouldn't those NVMes in the GPU get real toasty?

  • @GLHerzberg
    @GLHerzberg 3 месяца назад

    Are the M.2 retainers [going to be] available aftermarket?

  • @effex07
    @effex07 3 месяца назад +2

    That Tomahawk mobo look sick.

  • @geonerd
    @geonerd 3 месяца назад

    I REALLY like the GPU + M.2 card.

  • @janezverbic2093
    @janezverbic2093 3 месяца назад

    So we wont need chopsticks to remove a GPU anymore.

  • @Killswitch1411
    @Killswitch1411 3 месяца назад +1

    Just say no to Ai

  • @wwShadow7
    @wwShadow7 3 месяца назад

    Linus beat your there. Hence the broken M.2 GPU.

  • @JohnnyStashh
    @JohnnyStashh 3 месяца назад

    who needs dragon's on their gpu? I want mine with Paul's head as a shroud!

  • @rizz0d
    @rizz0d 3 месяца назад

    dammit MSI, you had one job! (to not say the letters AI)

  • @Loki-33
    @Loki-33 3 месяца назад

    Hoping they make a project zero micro atx using the X870 chipset. Would like a newer board than the current B650

    • @Blue_Soul_Slayer
      @Blue_Soul_Slayer 3 месяца назад

      I'd be happy if they had a white amd b850/b870 camm2 motherboard. I'd think the best outcome is a black and white camm2 motherboard for b850 and b870/b870e. If there more options available, I feel like more people might be able to buy something that suits them and with more people with camm2, the higher the demand. So hopefully camm2 comes out affordable. Cause I'd be happy to buy a white amd motherboard with camm2 support.

  • @isaacn751
    @isaacn751 3 месяца назад

    i dont know if it is just me but i love CAMM memory .

  • @ShravanParthasarathy
    @ShravanParthasarathy 3 месяца назад

    i spy the m.2 footage being used three times lol

  • @thelaughingmanofficial
    @thelaughingmanofficial 3 месяца назад

    I'm more interested in the CAMM memory standard.

  • @jaymacpherson8167
    @jaymacpherson8167 3 месяца назад

    Oh Paul…as someone who is artificially intelligent, thank you for the token AI shot at the end. I felt at home with contemporary media swaddlement.

  • @systemBuilder
    @systemBuilder 3 месяца назад

    I was tricked into watching this video! Oh no!

  • @SciPunk215
    @SciPunk215 3 месяца назад

    You can run... you can hide... but you can not escape it.

  • @kNeonWolf
    @kNeonWolf 3 месяца назад

    With AM5 the debug display is now essential as so far had 5 boards now which either from start or after few months turned out to be faulty and trying to work out what it's doing or not with just 4 little coloured leds was a nightmare & wasted my time in the end finding out those boards were actually faulty

  • @ylstorage7085
    @ylstorage7085 3 месяца назад

    it's a FROST dragon, we good.

  • @daiphelion7002
    @daiphelion7002 3 месяца назад

    I look forward to when efficiency gains bring us back down to 2xslot cards...

  • @la_creatura_fea_y_bella
    @la_creatura_fea_y_bella 3 месяца назад

    w-where are the video outputs on the m.2 gpu

  • @kpj9535
    @kpj9535 3 месяца назад +6

    yay MSI, I contacted MSI CS 5 years ago, they're still Draggin in responding...

  • @jaredhuber7359
    @jaredhuber7359 3 месяца назад

    yeah..... the m.2 expansion slots in the GPU is gimmicked all to hell and back. THAT is a shit terrible idea

  • @michap.7343
    @michap.7343 3 месяца назад

    There are AI tools to clean up your audio

  • @Druac
    @Druac 3 месяца назад

    I love gaming...and AI! :)