Lex Orandi, Lex Credendi

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  • @andrewbeattieRAB
    @andrewbeattieRAB 3 года назад +19

    EXCELLENT VIDEO
    I have listened for years now. This is the best sermons ever by far!
    Speaking of traveling, a few years ago, I attended the TLM at the SSPX chapel in Winona Minnesota (I was being treated for spine cancer not too far away at the Mayo Clinic). In a pre-mass conversation I mentioned that I had an hour’s drive each way from my home to the Chicago SSPX chapel and back. Of the small group I was talking to, one person said that he and his family traveled TWO HOURS each way to the Winona chapel. Then a lady said she and her family drove FOUR HOURS each way to the Winona chapel. People do what they must.
    “NECESSITY” IS EXACTLY RIGHT.

  • @TheDoriette
    @TheDoriette 3 года назад +21

    Keep praying those Rosaries!

  • @happylittletrees5668
    @happylittletrees5668 3 года назад +24

    I love the analogy of how the Publican and Pharisee pray to the Mass of the Ages and the Pauline rite. Thank you Father!

  • @shannonanastasio727
    @shannonanastasio727 3 года назад +39

    What a powerful sermon. I love the analogy of the TLM and NO to the plublican and the Pharisee. Thank you, Father!

    • @robertboyer6828
      @robertboyer6828 3 года назад +1

      Thank you Father. Always powerful, always truth, a pearl of great value. Why did they give it up, and now try to force it out for good. Have learned so much from your homilies and the divine silence and contemplation of the Mass of the Ages.

  • @janetskordi176
    @janetskordi176 3 года назад +31

    Our Lord must be weeping right now! Please dear God give us the strength, the courage, and the wisdom to fight for our traditional mother church!

  • @tbhermann1
    @tbhermann1 3 года назад +40

    To me, TLM is like real flowers. Modern mass is like artificial flowers.

  • @lovesrlady2
    @lovesrlady2 3 года назад +86

    Pope Francis has told us that he's not afraid of schism. It's almost as if he was planning for sometime to make us choose and then call us schismatics. For us to think that he is finished with this matter, that would make us fools. Hold on to the two pillars...Jesus and Mary!

    • @keefedaly3391
      @keefedaly3391 3 года назад +8

      Amen! St. Peter's Barque is in tumultuous waters, as Don Bosco saw in his dream, but hold fast to the pillars!

    • @AlexJones-jl1cb
      @AlexJones-jl1cb 3 года назад +5

      He's a an evil Jesuit.... crypto cabalist....all satanists need expulsion !

    • @lovesrlady2
      @lovesrlady2 3 года назад +6

      @@chriscampbell7895 Where in this conversation did anyone say he wasn't a pope? There have been bad popes throughout the Church's history.

    • @Brian-s3m
      @Brian-s3m 3 года назад +5

      this pontificate's a disaster....

    • @lovesrlady2
      @lovesrlady2 3 года назад +8

      @@Brian-s3m "For in those days, Jesus will send them NOT a true pastor but a Destroyer." St. Francis of Assisi

  • @joehouston2833
    @joehouston2833 3 года назад +9

    TLM is needed.

  • @daughterofchrist1775
    @daughterofchrist1775 3 года назад +51

    How the Church prays, is how She believes

    • @concernedcitizen780
      @concernedcitizen780 3 года назад +3

      Well said and true. The “ clown mass” should be banned not the TLM

    • @johnholmes6667
      @johnholmes6667 3 года назад +2

      The full term is “Lex Orlando” (that is, “As we pray”; “Lex Credendi”.I’d. “So we believe.”; with the final result, “Lex Vivendi”, “so will we carry out our lives.” Reverent prayer inspires closeness to Our Lord, wishing to please Our Lord, so we unify by fasting on Fridays and observing Ember Days( going to confession regularly, learning the dogmas and doctrines of the faith; teaching Our Children from the Baltimore Catechism and the Catechism of Trent..’, wearing the scapular; praying the rosary daily and observing the five First Saturday devotions even though the modernist bishops now downplay miracles,,even those approved-as Miracles such as Fatima and Lourdes . “Apparitions are not a part the Deposit of Faith’” according to our bishop who has list his Marian vigor by hanging out with the “big guys@ such as Joe Tobin.

    • @johnholmes9801
      @johnholmes9801 3 года назад +2

      Daughter of Christ. Lex Orandi. Lex Credendi. LEX VIVENDI. How She pray. So shall She believe and so shall She live, (making proper choices in life so that She reaches Salvation.

  • @theresagoldschmidt8740
    @theresagoldschmidt8740 3 года назад +20

    How terribly offended Our God Lord must be regarding the NO Mass. Long live the TLM Mass which is holy, beautiful and reverent.

  • @fivelakeskitchenandbath9458
    @fivelakeskitchenandbath9458 3 года назад +100

    Just as the church "woke up one day" and found itself Arian, many are waking up today to find the church is Modernist! From the pope, to the bishops, to the average priest, most have unconsciously adopted this most pernicious "synthesis of all heresies?

    • @deklankennedy8488
      @deklankennedy8488 3 года назад +9

      And the layman!

    • @fivelakeskitchenandbath9458
      @fivelakeskitchenandbath9458 3 года назад +24

      To be honest with you, the average laymen is barely Christian, let alone catholic. Most "catholics" I speak with are Arian, thet deny over half of the dogmas, and don't believe in the real presence in the Eucharist! How do you put out the flames when most of the people can't even see that there's fire!?

    • @scotmiller8910
      @scotmiller8910 3 года назад +10

      Lord Jesus. Pray for us!

    • @marianievessolsona2119
      @marianievessolsona2119 3 года назад

      idiota

    • @fivelakeskitchenandbath9458
      @fivelakeskitchenandbath9458 3 года назад +5

      @@marianievessolsona2119 where am I wrong? Idiota isn't too charitable lol

  • @beatrizsegoviano8589
    @beatrizsegoviano8589 3 года назад +55

    I was born in the Novus Ordo mass and when I discovered the Latin Mass in my city I could never go back to the sad NO mass. I saw the beauty and sacred liturgy that the Vatican took away from me. I cannot stand being in the Novus Ordo mass not even for one minute. What they did to us by stealing the glorious Latin Mass was a disgrace to us and to all the saints and apostles.

    • @gopinathanaugustinemunusam911
      @gopinathanaugustinemunusam911 3 года назад +6

      Very true

    • @concernedcitizen780
      @concernedcitizen780 3 года назад +2

      I have been to some New order of the mass that I will never go back. The mass was a mockery of reverence. It was like a clown mass.

    • @MikeBerbano
      @MikeBerbano 3 года назад +1

      Novus Ordo Seclorem = New World Order (put on the dollar bill by satanic Freemasonry)

    • @sandie157
      @sandie157 2 года назад +1

      The only mass I knew until recently was the novus ordo . No longer . My only response to that mass is NO to the N.O..

  • @katherinemcmillan5228
    @katherinemcmillan5228 3 года назад +12

    we cannot fathom the utter holiness of God. They proudly take the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of our Blessed Lord in their hands. they have no idea what they are doing. They see good in evil (profaning the Blessed Sacrament of the Altar) and evil in good(receiving on our knees).
    There's a Holy Scripture that says if we are faithful in small things we will be faithful in big things and recently I've realized that BIG THING, is the most Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. Lord have mercy on me a poor sinner.

  • @KatZing22
    @KatZing22 3 года назад +6

    Awesome! Thank you Father!

  • @conscience333
    @conscience333 3 года назад +24

    Pope Paul VI was apparently schizophrenic then.
    Lovely homily and well said, at a given time we will all have to admit that by being at the Mass of all ages, we're rejecting in some way the new Mass. At Lourdes the rector banned communion on the tongue. We wrote petition-styled letters and for a long time he rejected our claims but who could ignore the growing group of happy traditionalists walking out of the sanctuary area in order to receive Our Lord on the tongue in the street, in a local garden and at someone's home every Sunday for months? He ended up giving in and we got back the Communion on the tongue. In the past Catholics rolled over, now we've learnt that an obstinate love and respect for God might get us in trouble in human terms but God sees, He knows and he blesses us. Perseverance unto death. God is good.

    • @charlesdayon5715
      @charlesdayon5715 3 года назад +3

      The apparition of Virgin Mary at Bayside NY and said that Pope Paul was replaced by an imposter Pope , I call him Pope Paul 7, Pope Paul the 6 had blue eyes Pope Paul 7 had Grey eyes. I found out Pope Paul 7 name is Paolo Carlin a friend of the real Pope who had a key to the Papel apartments. So it would appear that there some skizoid(sic) stuff going on.Both Pope John and Pope Paul 6 tried to control the council but it ran away from them ,to their horror. Much as the Conclave to elect Francis involved a conspiracy, so did Vatican 2 by a group of Modernist.

    • @johnholmes6667
      @johnholmes6667 3 года назад

      Buginni, a Freemason, pulled one off on Paul VI, as he just finished bastardizing the Mass, handed it to him, and he naively accepted it. John Zmirek described in his book?, the Politically Incorrect Guide to Catholicism how Paul VI wax caught off guard, realizing that the octave of Pentecost had been dropped as was the tradition of wearing red vestments throughout the week. He actually wept, but the Nee (world)! Order was in full force with priests thinking they should gussy it up in any manner that they chose each day.

    • @johnholmes6667
      @johnholmes6667 3 года назад

      Is it any wonder that in her reflections to Her priests through Fr. Stefano Gobe that are composed in his book, Marian Movement of Priests,, Our Lady observes several times that “Freemasonry has entered the Church through the Mass?” The Lex Bibendi just was t cutting it as devout religious sisters, brothers and priests left the Convents and Monasteries. Church attendance dropped as folks became “nones” as they missed the Nass of the Ages or joined PROTESTant churches to get a better version of he newly Protestantized Mass that they were finding in their Catholic Churches.

    • @charlesdayon5715
      @charlesdayon5715 3 года назад

      @@johnholmes6667 I have read in the messages Our Lady in Necedah Wisconsin 1950 to 1975 ,not approved by the Catholic Church, that Freemasonry was started by people who were supposed Jews, " jews who say they're jews but are not they are lying " who started Freemasonry. I believe they needed an alternate organization to contradict the Catholic Church and destroy Christianity. Virgin Mary also said the Bahai Temple, which was started in Iran, also is not from God, their teachings contradict the Bible and the Koran, very New Age.

  • @hollywhalen4461
    @hollywhalen4461 3 года назад +2

    Latin masses are getting fewer and fewer to find. I have to drive an hour for a Latin mass. What we need to pray for is our priests, bishops, all liturgical clergy to come back to an extreme faith; to honor the eucharist with the most reverance and sacredness. We are among the very few that sit in a pew that we can make sure to receive communion by the priest and on our tounge. I have yet to gain the courage to kneel as well. Thank you Father for a beautiful reminder of how to love our Lord and respect Him.

  • @KatZing22
    @KatZing22 3 года назад +5

    Thank you Father!

  • @philominaeapen9240
    @philominaeapen9240 3 года назад +43

    It is UNHOLY to stop 🛑 the Greatest Prayer the Holy Mass in Latin 🙏🏼✝️⛪️😇

  • @damianc80
    @damianc80 3 года назад +3

    Words of love. Thank you father. 😌

  • @danielsoto9901
    @danielsoto9901 3 года назад +4

    Beautiful father

  • @anthonytan7134
    @anthonytan7134 3 года назад +4

    Beautiful sermon, reminds me of Luke 18, the parable of a pharisee and a publican. Gbu

  • @Marcello1b
    @Marcello1b 3 года назад +3

    Thanks for your words of clarity! I do believe what you said. I grown up in a way I sang gregorian chants for men. I sang in a church with gregorian men choir, with who we used to sing masses with gregorian chants. Today, this church is been destroyed. I saw the city administration reducing its function to a tourism attraction, to a little place of market and, finally, to keep the façade of it, to change to total different modern building connected to it... This church was so great, unique. Wherever we would sing in it, we were hearing the choir in stereo, in perfect sound balanced.
    I don't know if people will realize how the tail of devil could be seen... Of course, there are less and less faithful in churches... but I believe it's because there weren't enough latin masses. And now, for where I live, if I was kneeling to receive the eucharistie on the tongue, I wonder if people around would look at me as a rebel, and I wonder how I would be received for my gesture by a priest giving the communion. Am I wrong? Should I become a priest myself, how to honor and venerate always more my respect and love to the Holly eucharistie? God forgive me my poor knowledge. I compensate by players to Virgin Mary.
    Thanks for your clarity and your sermons; I feel not being alone in this awareness.
    God bless you!

  • @blueskyart
    @blueskyart 3 года назад +3

    Spectacular homily. Thank you so much.

  • @catholiclife9304
    @catholiclife9304 3 года назад +1

    Our lady of Good success intercede for us..I trust your eyes and your mouth Blessed Mother. You've been here with all and you know all . Jesus will not allow this to go to far. I pray for the Pope and every Bishop that thinks modernism is good. As it's Evil...

  • @nathaniellathy6559
    @nathaniellathy6559 3 года назад +15

    Latin did flourish.Thanks to Archbishop Lefebvre

  • @MichaelBrooksmsb400
    @MichaelBrooksmsb400 3 года назад +2

    I lost my only form of transportation, my bike, and have no $ for another. There's a Latin Mass about 9 miles from me, whereas, I live but 2 miles to the Ordinary Form Mass. I have no way of getting to Mass or Confession for that matter. I have both the 1945 and 1962 Latin Hand Missals, and also have the 1964 (interim) and 2010 third edition of the 1970 Ordinary Form Hand Missals.

  • @ABC-jt9cm
    @ABC-jt9cm 3 года назад +2

    Amen

  • @Danielhernandez-mw4rb
    @Danielhernandez-mw4rb 3 года назад +3

    Traditional en Latin Mass amen amen amen 🎇🐑🌅

  • @pandajivgg
    @pandajivgg 3 года назад +8

    Where can i hear more of this priests preaching?

    • @samfletcher1617
      @samfletcher1617 3 года назад

      I believe he is a member of the Fathers of Mercy. You can find him on their channel here on youtube.

  • @emilyperea
    @emilyperea 3 года назад +3

    So, perhaps this channel can speak more to what we, as individuals, can do to stay faithful to Tradition without disrespecting what is still the Mother Church?

  • @Wanamaker1946
    @Wanamaker1946 3 года назад +3

    Anglican Catholic Churches use the Tridentine mass because it was used before and up to the Reformation.

  • @Topsurgeons2
    @Topsurgeons2 3 года назад +19

    “The way we believe”? Sadly it is the lack of belief in Our Lord that motivates this Pontificate.

  • @MM22272
    @MM22272 3 года назад +9

    As the clergy preach, so the laity believe. (Scarcely are the 10 Commandments or Catholic morality preached. Scarcely do the laity believe in them (much less follow them).)

  • @Garlicbread62
    @Garlicbread62 3 года назад +2

    What is the name of the priest giving the homily?

  • @fivelakeskitchenandbath9458
    @fivelakeskitchenandbath9458 3 года назад +11

    Actually.....the Divine Liturgy of St John Crysostum is older. But still, a Liturgy that goes back to St Gregory the Great is definitely ancient!
    Holy Theotokos pray for the Church

    • @SATMathReview1234
      @SATMathReview1234 3 года назад +1

      All of the liturgies of the church are apostolic in origin, but the Eastern liturgies have legitimately developed more from the primitive mass than the Roman Rite. The paraclisis for instance was added latter after heresies denied the divinity of the Holy Ghost

    • @fivelakeskitchenandbath9458
      @fivelakeskitchenandbath9458 3 года назад +7

      @@SATMathReview1234 amen! Of coarse their development are all apostolic, like the Divine Liturgy of St James has become the Maronite and Antiochene liturgies. The unique thing about the Divine Liturgy of St John Crysostum is that from its promulgation in the late 4th century, it has not been changed at all! There have been additions to prayers and anaphoras, which is how Liturgy grows organically, but no innovations. It still retains all of the deep mystery, just like the TLM.
      The only Liturgy that has no apostolic roots in the entire universal church is the Novus Ordo. I feel so bad for the pius Latins as your church's beauty and theology was gutted, along with every liturgical rite- baptism, Communion, Chrismation AND ordination- not to mention the hatchet job to the Latin ecclesiasiology!
      Lord have mercy on us, and PLEASE rescue Your church from the hands of the modernists!

    • @eb4203
      @eb4203 3 года назад +5

      Each Rite can be traced to one of the Apostles EXCEPT the Paul VI Missae.

    • @fivelakeskitchenandbath9458
      @fivelakeskitchenandbath9458 3 года назад +4

      Before the Liturgy of St James from Mar Adai? That's 80 ad. The Latin liturgy didn't even adopt Latin until the end of the 3rd century. Peter even founded the Antiochene church well before he even made it to Rome.
      It's hard to show the Mass from Trent, the modern TLM, even at 1000 years ago, let alone Gregory the great in the 6th century.
      Even the Ambrosian Rite is older, yet still a Roman liturgy.
      And if it is older than any other Rite, it's even more embarrassing what V2 did to their liturgy! A true hermeneutic of rupture. From the oldest to the most novel. Of all of the different liturgical Rites, of which I have attended all, the NO is by FAR the ugliest and least reverent, and thats not even mentioning the actual church buildings.
      I don't think the Catholic church at large has ever been weaker, and uglier, then it is today.
      Lord have mercy on us

    • @councilofflorence4896
      @councilofflorence4896 3 года назад

      Actually that is not quite true. The Liturgy of St. Gregory was virtually identical to the Liturgy dating back to Pope Damasas, and is believed to date to apostolic times in its earliest forms. It was long held as the Liturgy of St. Peter. The Roman Rite is evidence of being more primitive, due to its lack of an epiclesis.

  • @andreawill154
    @andreawill154 3 года назад +3

    Please pray that our Holy Mother Mary comes like a mama bear and scatter those who attempt to destroy The Church- God will never say no to His Mother

  • @paweltrawicki2200
    @paweltrawicki2200 3 года назад +1

    Aside from the beauty of the Old Latin Rite , In the New Rite of the Mass in the Vernacular, does Transubstantiation occur? Yes or no.? My 'Sensus Fidelium" says that it occurs.

  • @winstonsmith9533
    @winstonsmith9533 3 года назад +2

    Inspired all the Cultural works of Christian civilization...no kidding!!

  • @davidhans9576
    @davidhans9576 3 года назад +2

    Where is this parish at which this priest is preaching?

  • @sacsac2079
    @sacsac2079 2 года назад

    My faith has grown exponential regardless of the language. Wake up people.

  • @raymundbelleza1279
    @raymundbelleza1279 3 года назад +5

    Hello, excuse me. May I share your videos? I like to share my faith. Thanks and God bless you.

    • @kimfleury
      @kimfleury 3 года назад +3

      Please do hit the "Share" button on the video. Sharing this way brings more people to the channel.

    • @raymundbelleza1279
      @raymundbelleza1279 3 года назад +1

      @@kimfleury Hello, I actually sent links to Facebook though, but thanks. God bless.

  • @duromusabc
    @duromusabc 3 года назад +22

    The Novus Ordo mass is a traditional Lutheran church service - compare both and you’ll see they are almost identical
    Even the New Roman Missal of Pope Paul 6th is almost identical to the Protestant Book Of Common Prayer in its written rubrics
    Traditionalist Protestants who visit the Novus Ordo Mass even say “this is Catholic?! This is exactly like my church service at my church !”
    Appeasing the Protestants- that’s what it really was

    • @femaleKCRoyalsFan
      @femaleKCRoyalsFan 3 года назад +2

      Except for you know the Eucharistic prayer that says ever Virgin Mary and chaste husband Joseph? ( I go to traditional Latin mass now but I remember those words from one of the Eucharistic prayers) Don’t Lutherans believe that Mary and Joseph “had children” like other Protestants? I’d say it’s barely valid because the Eucharist is consecrated validly. And by the way not everybody has access to Latin mass I’m lucky to but people in the western part of my state would have to drive three hours and while that might be OK in the summer, that’s not practical in the winter when there’s ice and snow and sometimes I 80 is closed because of a blizzard. And I know someone who goes to traditional Latin mass but they were on vacation in a part of Maine recently where there wasn’t a Latin mass available. Not sure how far they were from Portland, the closest Latin mass, but I don’t think it was close enough that they could realistically drive to it. Sometimes you might not have a choice on going to the new mass unfortunately. But hopefully the FSSP & the SPPX can keep bringing the Latin mass to the people.

    • @andreathemisses1422
      @andreathemisses1422 3 года назад

      I remember talking to a lady and I told her I was Catholic, she told me she was Lutheran and in her excitement said, "We're almost the same!"

    • @duromusabc
      @duromusabc 3 года назад

      @jjdwf Novus Ordo Catholicism or TLM Catholicism?

  • @HolyRedeemerElDorado
    @HolyRedeemerElDorado 3 года назад +3

    Is there any way to get this translated or cc'd in Spanish?

  • @arieldreesen3052
    @arieldreesen3052 3 года назад +4

    At least Abp. Lefebvre was brave enough to keep the old rite. Maybe, if it wasn't for him the rite of St. Pius V would be almost dead by now.

  • @KK-nd9rr
    @KK-nd9rr 3 года назад +1

    Please please post the name of the homilists! Thank you

  • @kimfleury
    @kimfleury 3 года назад +9

    3 Hail Marys for the priest 🌹🌹🌹🙏🏻 and for Steve 🌹🌹🌹🙏🏻 that this channel may be for the Lord's work ✝️📿
    Contained Traditional prayers for the Holy Father's intentions and for the clergy and hierarchy. The Traditional prayers don't ask for what the Pope, bishops and priests personally want, but rather that the Lord will mold them into the likeness of His Divine Son, our Lord Jesus Christ, the Eternal High Priest.
    I can't type it in Latin, because autocorrect keeps changing the words, and I don't want to risk posting a scandalous error, so I'll have to post it in English, only the beginning of the prayer:
    _Our Father, Who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy Name. Thy Kingdom come, Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven._
    Pray this many times daily for the Holy Father, the clergy and hierarchy.

  • @debrasaints3809
    @debrasaints3809 3 года назад +44

    I’m not able to attend the TLM because of distance and my health, but I don’t agree with PF latest decree. It massacres sacred tradition and theology! Ave Maria Incorporalis Ora Pro Nobis 🙏🏼✝️

    • @anthonytan7134
      @anthonytan7134 3 года назад +5

      while we in indonesia can't attend TLM because all the bishop already "banned" the TLM for some time now, so the decree has no effect at all, because the TLM was already long dead, while SSPX priest stopped coming to Indonesia due to covid restriction ( from spore ).
      We are in dire situation, butyou guys pretty lucky in the US. Please help to pray for us.
      Gbu

  • @carolfischbach6951
    @carolfischbach6951 3 года назад +1

    Change? Whatever happened to "If it ain't broke, don't fix it".

  • @valariousv7697
    @valariousv7697 3 года назад +4

    "I know this is a bad move and a huge loss but let us attempt to destroy the Church"; you have now entered the twight zone.

  • @thetruth-bf6je
    @thetruth-bf6je 3 года назад +16

    Pope Francis is telling us all the martyrs and Saints that their mass and prayer was invalid .Freemason Francis,pray for him.🙏🙏🙏

    • @r.c4914
      @r.c4914 3 года назад +1

      Repent for judging Pope francis you dont even know what you say.

  • @Billy-sv7lz
    @Billy-sv7lz Год назад

    TLM=Holy Sacrifice of the mass. The Novus ordo=The Sacrifice of sacred tradition.

  • @Eatzbugs
    @Eatzbugs 3 года назад +2

    The TLM is to GOD not man. I converted to the Holy Roman Church from protestant heresy. It’s appears to have followed me in the new mass.

  • @danielsoto9901
    @danielsoto9901 3 года назад +2

    Father your voice sounds like Bob Costas 😁

  • @mauro-vergara-rocks
    @mauro-vergara-rocks 3 года назад +1

    All those who claimes of being Catholics, they have to study the catechism and what does it means saint, catholic and apostolic, why we have a profession of Creed and what represent to the church the pope. They should lock 🔒 their mouth and thoughts before speaking against the pope. They can commit schism, a great sin.

  • @kaiglowacki8715
    @kaiglowacki8715 3 года назад +1

    Cain's Novus Ordo vs Mass of All Ages !

  • @varginabrown852
    @varginabrown852 3 года назад +1

    Jubilate Deo Novus Ordo ⛪ is what he meant. That's fine but we have lost Latin and that's not right

  • @CDave1972
    @CDave1972 2 года назад +2

    Quo Primum is eternally binding, so either Pope Paul 6 and his predecessors started a "parallel" church or placed themselves in schism (or both!)

  • @sisosf
    @sisosf 2 года назад +1

    I suppose clericalism is more important in your eyes than the Living Magisterium of the Faith. Our Hope is in God, eternal life not in language and preference.

  • @noitsannoitsan1546
    @noitsannoitsan1546 3 года назад +6

    Vatican II created a new sect: the conciliar church.
    Just because people called it 'catholic' it is not.
    Similar to what we are experiencing currently with the 'science' ....just because people call 'science' it is not.
    All my friends that attend the novos ordo sect think and behave as protestants while believing they are catholics.
    What I find the most maddening is the insistence of calling catholic the conciliar sect.
    Truth is objective!
    That thing that came out of Vat. II is anything but catholic.

    • @kimfleury
      @kimfleury 3 года назад

      Who died and made you pope? Really. I'm a Grandma, so watch your mouth when you address me back. You don't know the difference between a sect and a cult. A sect is outside, a cult is within. The FBI didn't know what they were talking about when they described certain religious groups as "cults," probably because they were influenced by Freemason teachings. Whatever has influenced your erroneous beliefs about who is or is not Catholic, it isn't the Holy Spirit. The form of the Divine Liturgy isn't what makes one Catholic. There are many NO daily communicant Nonnas who are more Catholic than you -- those aren't my words, they're the words of a strict Traditionalist TLM man addressed to a rigid Rad Trad who declared that nobody in the NO was Catholic, and therefore they were outside of the Church, and therefore they're all going to hell. Don't ever forget that many will cry, "Lord! Lord!" But He will say to them, "I do not know you." Don't assume He isn't talking to _you_.

    • @granmabern5283
      @granmabern5283 3 года назад

      KA Fleury wow THAT was quite the spanking!
      I kind of agree with BOTH OF YOU. ( although it scares me to admit it to YOU...hehe). And both of you are off the charts mean.
      Our SSPX priest told us there are people becoming saints in the novus ordo. This priest on here offered the no for eleven years. Look at him now. We have to resist imitating the pride and anger of Luther. Most of the Protestant revolution was done by « holier than thou + More ancient than that » extremists.
      God will straighten it all out. Faith of our fathers, Holy Faith, I will be true to thee TIL death.

    • @noitsannoitsan1546
      @noitsannoitsan1546 3 года назад +1

      @@granmabern5283
      you: "Our SSPX priest told us there are people becoming saints in the novus ordo."
      me: I have no doubt that this is true....and may all be by the glory of God

    • @noitsannoitsan1546
      @noitsannoitsan1546 3 года назад

      @@kimfleury I responded to you comment. I gave you a detail reply and it's not showing. O, well

  • @winstonsmith9533
    @winstonsmith9533 3 года назад +1

    Sacrality

  • @JC-ou4jg
    @JC-ou4jg 3 года назад +2

    Pope Francis don't have that authority to suppress the Latin mass period.

    • @AFreckledAngel
      @AFreckledAngel 3 года назад

      How is that? A pope previously forbid it

    • @JC-ou4jg
      @JC-ou4jg 3 года назад

      @@AFreckledAngel he us abusing his authority and he don't have full power over the church. Why it's happening? Maybe he is not the true pope!

  • @nathaniellathy6559
    @nathaniellathy6559 3 года назад +4

    Choose Catholicism Not Francis

  • @nathaniellathy6559
    @nathaniellathy6559 3 года назад +3

    Traditiones Custodes is another Modernist dud

  • @giriesamseis5739
    @giriesamseis5739 3 года назад +1

    Dear Father, you call francis the holly father si you must obey him.....for me he isn't the pope, he is the antipope our POPE is Benedict the 16th the one you ignored, so Father you got what you merit...
    Peace from the Holly Land Jerusalem

  • @KMF3
    @KMF3 2 года назад +1

    What a horrible day in history

  • @lorettarobertson6705
    @lorettarobertson6705 2 года назад +1

    Latin is a Sacred Language

  • @nmfd72
    @nmfd72 3 года назад +1

    Paul was another one who was either very confused or just another Heretic. I certainly hope he asked for forgiveness.

  • @matthewalexander6792
    @matthewalexander6792 3 года назад +3

    It's so stupidly ridiculous.
    All the Saints loved it, it got them to heaven with flying colours.
    They all attended it.
    Not the V2 so called saints mind you, how convenient.
    Anyone who does not see the lunacy here deserves to be duped, and suffer the consequences.
    The Catholic Church does not need idiotic members calling the shots, no sir.
    The true remnant is miniscule indeed, don't for one minute think it isn't.
    The vast majority of Catholics do not believe and accept what the true church teaches.
    There are various degrees of acceptance and rejection.
    But no sound unity, spare a few thousand, in the entire church.
    One day God will sort this mess, one day soon.
    Rome will become the seat of the Antichrist, lest we forget.

    • @kimfleury
      @kimfleury 3 года назад

      It's always been that way. There wouldn't have been a Protestant revolt if it weren't.

  • @MadMax31577
    @MadMax31577 3 года назад +1

    Have the last several popes really been popes? The circle is getting harder to square

  • @mattberg916
    @mattberg916 3 года назад +1

    There are 2 churches there are 2 liturgies. One is authentic the other is an ape

  • @AlexJones-jl1cb
    @AlexJones-jl1cb 3 года назад +1

    Cut off the Beast by pushing the baking of Compound Interest. Then it's evil power will be stopped as Jesus Instructed!!!!!!!

    • @kimfleury
      @kimfleury 3 года назад

      You're not Alex Jones 😂

  • @janettedavis6627
    @janettedavis6627 3 года назад

    Cardinal Heenan in London I lived there It went out in 1975.
    If the Church was wrong for 1965 years then I kno ww Jesus never returned in 1965 so Novus Ordo is not Hid. I dont attend any and wont . Why trust a Church that was wrong for 1965 years. Go Sola Scriptura.

  • @butchy504
    @butchy504 3 года назад

    It’s not Valid, not at all💒

  • @tertia0011
    @tertia0011 3 года назад

    Violins, cellos, all manner of wind & percussion orchestral instruments are ok - but the humble classical guitar, an orchestra in itself, is not?
    Mozart? The Masonic Master? Masonic Mass? .. I'll need to think that through a bit before I come to a conclusion on the appropriateness of a Mozart Mass in a liturgical setting .. lex orandi, lex credendi, you say?

    • @granmabern5283
      @granmabern5283 3 года назад

      Tertia You are so right, the guitar can cover it all. Not all music uses the guitar appropriately, however. While I personally do not hunger for Mozart, I have not heard his name in connection with masonry. Have you?
      Grégorian chant is awesome because it helps us pray and it blends in with the Traditional liturgy. I’ve read more technical and more flowery praise for gregorian but that was just me.
      Can we Catholics admit that all of our prayers and music are just humble beginnings, that will be fully realized in Heaven in the fullness of Divine Union?

    • @tertia0011
      @tertia0011 3 года назад

      @@granmabern5283
      'Let the chant be full of gravity; let it neither be worldly, nor too rude and poor .. let it be sweet, yet without levity, and, while it please the ear let it move the heart. It should alleviate sadness, and calm the angry spirit. It should not contradict the sense of the words, but rather enhance it. For it is no slight loss of spiritual grace to be distracted from the profit of the sense by the beauty of the chant, and to have our attention drawn to a mere vocal display, when we ought to be thinking of what is sung.' St Bernard of Clairvaux
      Monodic Chant is the proper, wrt texture & ethics, music of the Latin Rite. However the music of the Church up to the present day is one of vast polyphonic innovation from the earliest introduction of expert combination of two voice lines to that of forty. The introduction of instrumental accompaniment is foreign to the Roman Rite, but this doesn't stop the Traditionalists from lauding its superior scared value over 'banal' Jesuit sentimentality. I find 'Trad' arguments against Novus Ordo at times a little hypocritical.
      Yes, Mozart was a Free Mason Master. The Magic Flute, his Masonic magnum opus is replete with Masonic themes & imagery. Sensus Fidelium & 'Infiltration' indeed ..

    • @tertia0011
      @tertia0011 3 года назад +1

      @@granmabern5283
      The Chant fell into disuse in the 17th & 18th centuries. It's revival in the mid to late 19th century was much to do with the monks of Solesmes (esp. Dom Prosper Guéranger) & chant as we know it today & is sung in TLM is a reconstruction. Pristine plain chant vanished in the 9th century. It was mostly orally taught not sung from developed neume based musical notation. But historical development is not something Trads like to admit. What is more odious: the virtuosic excesses of 'Traditional' Baroque Mass or Jesuit composition for Novus Ordo Liturgy complete with modern drum kit, synthesiser & Brittany Spears sporting fashionable rosary necklace singing?
      Lex orandi, lex credendi .. It makes me want to stay in the cell of my enclosure. None shall pass!

  • @nathanngumi8467
    @nathanngumi8467 3 года назад +2

    Amen.