History of Maya civilization | Ed Barnhart and Lex Fridman

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  • @LexClips
    @LexClips  2 месяца назад +12

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    Ed Barnhart is an archaeologist and explorer specializing in ancient civilizations of the Americas. He is the Director of the Maya Exploration Center, host of the ArchaeoEd Podcast, and lecturer on the ancient history of North, Central, and South America. Ed is in part known for his groundbreaking work on ancient astronomy, mathematics, and calendar systems.
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  • @TP21138
    @TP21138 2 месяца назад +10

    I traveled to Mexico with my family 23 years ago. On our third day we traveled into the Yucatán peninsula to chichen itza. I consider myself extremely fortunate that I was able to be there on the spring equinox to witness what we were able to see. Such an amazing place

  • @gregoryedwards9097
    @gregoryedwards9097 2 месяца назад +5

    Please have Michael Hudson on! He is 85 years old so I don’t know how long we’ll have him but his research on Ancient history debt, financial vs industrial capitalism, and Anglo Saxon banking vs German banking models is honestly something I think you’d love to dive into

    • @Dvarden
      @Dvarden 2 месяца назад

      That’s an awesome suggestion, thank you 😊

  • @Andres-uw2kf
    @Andres-uw2kf 2 месяца назад +41

    Fellow Guatemalan. Proud Maya roots 🇬🇹

    • @jhonhenry9056
      @jhonhenry9056 2 месяца назад +4

      Eres más español que maya

    • @Andres-uw2kf
      @Andres-uw2kf 2 месяца назад +1

      @@jhonhenry9056 Al final del día todavía tengo sangre de mi tierra y es lo que me hace chapin.🇬🇹

    • @nigeltown
      @nigeltown 2 месяца назад

      ​@@Andres-uw2kfel que te escribió obviamente no ha sentado con una familia de Chisec, AV rodeado por la linda cultura Q'eqchi. "Más sangre Espanol que Maya jajaja" Nada que ver

    • @Andres-uw2kf
      @Andres-uw2kf 2 месяца назад +4

      @@nigeltown I have kakchiquel roots from the Motagua river valley. Otheriwse yes I am mixed race. That does not deny one’s other heritage

    • @oscarveliz3538
      @oscarveliz3538 2 месяца назад

      Eyyyy saludos vos 🤙🏻 I want to take a DNA test to see the breakdown of it. Igual tengo sangre Maya y me facina conocer más de la historia nuestra! ​@@Andres-uw2kf

  • @MrJimmy738
    @MrJimmy738 2 месяца назад +17

    Looks like Lex has been watching "the great courses." First, he had my boy Gregory on for roman history, and now this guy 😅 awesome stuff 👏

    • @jackryan1809
      @jackryan1809 2 месяца назад

      i agree. long form history is badass.

  • @DustKingArchives
    @DustKingArchives 2 месяца назад +1

    I love Ed. I listen to his storytelling style podcast that he has on RUclips and Spotify Spotify.

  • @Hexaglyph
    @Hexaglyph 2 месяца назад +7

    I wish he said more about the new fire, how they extinguished every light in the valley and relit them all from a single source. It must have been magical.

  • @franciscomendeza.8500
    @franciscomendeza.8500 2 месяца назад +3

    They created that calendar to perceive the cycle, awareness rising of the obvious and of the sacred

  • @ancienthistorians
    @ancienthistorians 2 месяца назад +1

    I like reading about ancient civilizations, especially mysterious civilizations like Maya.

  • @jason6919
    @jason6919 2 месяца назад +1

    Great content and timely in regards to the USA.

  • @Jordan-xm6wo
    @Jordan-xm6wo 2 месяца назад +4

    It would be awesome to see shows in the setting or long before Apocalypto, but its a sitcom or other type of show, to then explore problems they would have had in that time period

    • @adelinrapcore
      @adelinrapcore 2 месяца назад

      @@Jordan-xm6wo a good one its hard to film, they would have to go there in the jungle

  • @Holly-di8vs
    @Holly-di8vs 2 месяца назад +2

    You're really good at what you do in asking the right questions to those you are interviewing Lex Fridman. It's not just a skill but perhaps a new art form of sorts.

  • @chicomata9103
    @chicomata9103 2 месяца назад +7

    Short version; we don’t know what happened..

  • @kellymerrill5294
    @kellymerrill5294 2 месяца назад +1

    Thanks for this, teaching art of Mayan and Aztecs and this helped. Kids now know who built the first pyramid

    • @lreeher
      @lreeher 2 месяца назад

      You had better research the pyramids at Giza more thoroughly.

  • @billweirdo9657
    @billweirdo9657 2 месяца назад

    Havent watched this channel im here fkr the guest i loved his lectures

  • @gabrielalbertocastillomarq6120
    @gabrielalbertocastillomarq6120 2 месяца назад +2

    It was not only the Maya in th Clasico, Tehotihuacan in the Altiplane (a city wich has dominance over mayan cities as Copan and Tikal) also was burned and rival cities as Calakmul sense weakness in the cities allied to Tehotihuacan
    In the medium and late preclasical the larger cities and largest pyramids were built like Mirador in north Guatemala, near the border with Quintana Roo in Mexico and Belize

  • @jacek130
    @jacek130 2 месяца назад +78

    It sounds more like projection of knowledge onto history then actually understanding another civilization.

    • @mito88
      @mito88 2 месяца назад +7

      good point!
      the same with alien civilizations, the idea is a projection of humankind....

    • @bigglock5478
      @bigglock5478 2 месяца назад +3

      To understand civilization you have to look inward into the soul of individual and capitalize on the knowledge ingrained through breeding rump woman for generation. Latin x Anglo power are surveillance will soon reconnoiter and reveal true secrets within the chakra. I am first in line for enlightenment

    • @Fx_-
      @Fx_- 2 месяца назад +32

      @@bigglock5478you have the most schizophrenia I have seen in youtube comments. Congratulations. 🎉

    • @bigglock5478
      @bigglock5478 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Fx_- you will be and obey word of eternal law spoken forth through my inter dimensional finger and heed or burn for eons in the future (past) worm

    • @Fx_-
      @Fx_- 2 месяца назад +8

      @@bigglock5478 the only worm here is you in your own brain. 🫠

  • @jacobec12
    @jacobec12 2 месяца назад

    A beautiful ceremony that led to those who were conscious leaving as a result of the war.

  • @blakesmith5198
    @blakesmith5198 2 месяца назад +7

    Ahhhh, to be known as a Fire Lord. One day.

  • @zog6416
    @zog6416 2 месяца назад +5

    What contemporary archeology can't seem to bring itself to talk about, is the connection between cultures during those times. An intriguing connection is the mathematical parley between the structures in Mexico and other areas and Egypt, it's truly fascinating.

    • @RCMagnusson
      @RCMagnusson 2 месяца назад +1

      Prove the connection then. Math is math.

    • @anthonyphillips7642
      @anthonyphillips7642 2 месяца назад

      Orrrrrrrrrrrr we all evolved from a common ancestor which leads us to overtime have very similar observations and ideas. But no I’m sure it’s aliens

  • @Holly-di8vs
    @Holly-di8vs 2 месяца назад

    The Mayan civilization was an interesting thing to study in middle school. I enjoyed doing a school report on them.

  • @stratometal
    @stratometal 2 месяца назад

    Super mega interesting on the cycles. I am in the camp of cyclical history, a waxing and waning of civilizations. However I see the cycles a bit more like spirals as well, and when a spiral ends a new one starts. Spirals because it accounts for certain progress or evolution.

  • @Skatelifefool
    @Skatelifefool 2 месяца назад

    How interesting people back then lived

  • @adelinrapcore
    @adelinrapcore 2 месяца назад +12

    I just realized that all these native american civilizations were basically asians. It's fascinating how they evolved differently from the europeans and asians. I wonder how long it would have taken for them to reach industrialization, steam engine, electricity, all that good stuff :)..

    • @JACKnJESUS
      @JACKnJESUS 2 месяца назад +6

      It has a lot to do with geography. Same reason Northern African ideas never made it down south...geography. The 'west' was connected all the way to China via the Silk Road, and they all shared similar climates. Not so in Africa and South America.

    • @sebastianbenitez948
      @sebastianbenitez948 2 месяца назад +1

      they werent asians, stop peddling that eurocentric throry

    • @sidar2071
      @sidar2071 2 месяца назад +3

      @@sebastianbenitez948well its been proven but you can keep living in denial.
      Also have no idea how calling them asian is eurocentric

    • @sebastianbenitez948
      @sebastianbenitez948 2 месяца назад +1

      @@sidar2071 no it hasnt been proven, this is something too complex for you to understand, not gonna get into it, you want to believe that so do you, you have no ties to the americas

    • @jeffmaddry4940
      @jeffmaddry4940 2 месяца назад

      The "asians" didn't exist yet. They shared ancestors. They went their paths and became their things. It's like saying we evolved from chimps.

  • @the6ixpathsofpain
    @the6ixpathsofpain Месяц назад

    They need more research on Angkor Wat

  • @batmansdad4978
    @batmansdad4978 2 месяца назад +1

    I just want to hear about the pyramids and other structures off the west coast of cuba and the Yucatan Peninsula.

    • @batmansdad4978
      @batmansdad4978 2 месяца назад

      When enough water is trapped in ice again, the new Mylankavic cycle will begin, and all sanken coastal cities will be revealed.

    • @Andres-uw2kf
      @Andres-uw2kf 2 месяца назад +1

      Evidence of Maya trade routes possible seafaring all the way into Georgia and the tip of Florida

    • @batmansdad4978
      @batmansdad4978 2 месяца назад

      @Andres-uw2kf notice the thin channel between the two places on water maps. It gets thin and goes deeper. That tells me water was a river flowing between the Yucatan Peninsula and the West coast of Cuba during a certain time frame.

  • @johnjones8888
    @johnjones8888 2 месяца назад +4

    Georgio Tsoukalos would like a word.....

  • @Zman44444
    @Zman44444 2 месяца назад

    I legit for a second thought “Wait… Preston Stewart is playing with legos now?”

  • @crapton9002
    @crapton9002 2 месяца назад +1

    You can see wise self reflection on why we have God vs is there a God. Don't kill the messenger is why.

  • @charleslueker2597
    @charleslueker2597 2 месяца назад

    How interesting that they did a "new fire ceremony" every 52 years which is very close to the ancient Israel 50 year Jubilee

  • @twistpv
    @twistpv 2 месяца назад

    Before a moment
    After a moment
    When a moment

  • @sonarbangla8711
    @sonarbangla8711 2 месяца назад

    Ed even sounds like the Maya learned democracy about the same time as the English, with parallels like in England innocent people were thrown into boiling water while the Mayas burned the state when not liked.

  • @EligioMedina-jh2zu
    @EligioMedina-jh2zu 2 месяца назад

    Nothing LEFT... UNDERSTAND...

  • @williamlazaroff5478
    @williamlazaroff5478 2 месяца назад +1

    My best guess is in order to keep the Maya from becoming an advanced civilization the reset was implemented into their religion as a way of preserving mankind.

    • @28goldenboy
      @28goldenboy 2 месяца назад +4

      Why would they want to prevent it from becoming advanced?

    • @williamlazaroff5478
      @williamlazaroff5478 2 месяца назад +2

      @@28goldenboy because advancement in civilization ultimately leads to human extinction. Hunter gatherer tribes are a means for human preservation.

    • @28goldenboy
      @28goldenboy 2 месяца назад

      @@williamlazaroff5478 do you have proof that the Mayans, themselves, had that mindset? It's kinda silly to think a civilization chooses to not be advanced.
      Also, it's quite simple to know what prevented them from eventually becoming technological. The answer lies in the encounter with Europeans post 1492. We can only guess what would have been of all indigenous people had the bridge between the old and new world never happened.
      My educated guess is that if Eastern and Western civilizations were at some point "indigenous" or primitive in ther own land, stopped roaming and evolved to be advanced civilization, then why wouldn't the new world indigenous people have the same fate.
      Of course, geography is a key factor. Most likely civilizations up in the mountains (Incas) would not evolve as fast as as lower elevation ones. And easy access to river ways is a key indicator of progress. Thomas Sowell did a great video on that, why Africa did not advanced as Europeans despite humans originating from there. I'd recommend it.

    • @williamlazaroff5478
      @williamlazaroff5478 2 месяца назад +1

      @@28goldenboy no dude it was a stoned theory.

    • @williamlazaroff5478
      @williamlazaroff5478 2 месяца назад +1

      I’m aware that the Dorian gap essentially prevented the western hemisphere from becoming like the east (no Silk Road). My theory was just to suggest an explanation for the burning down of cities

  • @TerrenceLP
    @TerrenceLP 2 месяца назад

    This look back is just a fraction of time in the idea of a day in the life of a civilian

  • @conservativemike3768
    @conservativemike3768 2 месяца назад +2

    Our specie is tedious cyclical.

  • @paulyermish7692
    @paulyermish7692 2 месяца назад +2

    Guayabera

  • @blackout4203
    @blackout4203 2 месяца назад

    I highly doubt traditional stories confided amongst the elders that may answer many questions would be disclosed to outsiders.

  • @vonroretz3307
    @vonroretz3307 2 месяца назад +10

    Angor Wat- same thing, different day. Highly centralised Agriculture gives rise to population, war then Human Sacrifice. Read Lords of Cuzco… Cortez was greeted as a liberator not just because the people were ignorant.

  • @mechannel7046
    @mechannel7046 Месяц назад

    2:30 Mayan democracy

  • @marcogonzalez6687
    @marcogonzalez6687 2 месяца назад

    His story

  • @lioneldavis5726
    @lioneldavis5726 2 месяца назад

    Take a shot every time he says a city burned. 😊🔥🥃

  • @watchman835
    @watchman835 2 месяца назад +11

    The reason people move is because they used up all the surrounding arable land, and they don’t have the knowledge of fertilisation. After 100 years also, surrounding farmland stopped being productive.

    • @STINKYcheese9
      @STINKYcheese9 2 месяца назад +6

      Glad we have someone smarter than the archaeologist being interviewed in the comments

    • @AtomickPixel
      @AtomickPixel 2 месяца назад +2

      They didn't have any cattle, chicken or horses... I do see high plausibility in your hypothesis.

    • @Quanterus
      @Quanterus 2 месяца назад

      ☀️ 👏

    • @Corndogg316
      @Corndogg316 2 месяца назад

      Certainly a big part of it. Corn was their only big source of calories. I also just think cities choke themselves out with greed in most cases. Common people realize it’s better for them in the country.

    • @TylerKTanaka
      @TylerKTanaka 2 месяца назад

      Applying Occam’s Razor the simplest answer is that there was a drought that forced people to leave. No water, no life.

  • @davidryals4168
    @davidryals4168 2 месяца назад +1

    Doug Stanhope is putting on weight!

  • @Fantasyremix
    @Fantasyremix 2 месяца назад

    I just know this guy plays Settlers of Catan and/or Warhammer

  • @Quetzal0te
    @Quetzal0te 2 месяца назад

    Yes, Chichen Itza was built by Guatemalan Mayans (though Mexico and Guatemala did not yet exist, only for reference) Proto Maya, the Mother of all Mayan languages, started in the Cuchumatanes Mountains of Guatemala, circa 4,000 BC and from there it spread as far north as Texas and Tamaulipas (HUASTEC MAYA) as far south as Honduras (Chorti, Quiriguá, Copan Maya) and much later, near their post classic, to Yucatan (Yokatek Maya) The only reason small town, small piramid Chichen Itza is more famous than El Mirador, Tikal, Yaxha, Copan etc, is because 150 million Mexicans voted it as a World Wonder vrs 20 million Guatemalan votes, it's just the tourism marketing blurrying and deflecting the truths of Archeology, genetics and DNA sequencing, physiognomy (how Mayas look the same in the ancient pottery paintings is the same as present day Guatemala) the written texts like the popol vuh and codexes, ancient murals and monumental stelae (such as San Bartolo in Peten Guatemala and Quiriguá in Izabal Guatemala) History, present day populations of Maya descendants, their traditions, religions, customs and Languages (Forensic Lingüístics) Guatemala was both the cradle of Mayan Civilization, the heart of the Mayan world geographically, culturally and politically and were 15 million Mayas and Mestizo Mayas still live today (only one million Mayas live in Mexico, Belize and Honduras combined, today, remembering that Belize, Chiapas y Tabasco were still part of Guatemala as recently as 1834)

  • @elconquistador5095
    @elconquistador5095 2 месяца назад +1

    The Maya are still alive. Elders know their history.

  • @artstrology
    @artstrology 2 месяца назад +1

    The 20 day cycle which most of the calendars are based on, was not made by the Maya. The Chinese, Japanese, Hindu, and Egyptians all have that. The same goes for the 36 deccans, and both of those calendars are the best evidence to support Grahams point, that knowledge was seeded. The historians of the Maya told me, that El Mundo Perdido in Tikal is 40,000 years old, and that they received the 20 days from the Olmecs 6,000 years ago. The calendars are global information and the correlations with other systems in nature, proves nobody made them, but they were discovered through science.

  • @JimothyB
    @JimothyB 2 месяца назад

    The Age of Kings but what about the Conquerors expansion?

  • @mattpalmer152
    @mattpalmer152 2 месяца назад

    My leg hurts

  • @andrisromanovskis9363
    @andrisromanovskis9363 2 месяца назад

    Good to hear "overpopulated", but did not hear "theocracy", so some explanations are pending. But otherwise great, вери грейт.

    • @lreeher
      @lreeher 2 месяца назад

      Yes. Theocracies, like "Anthropic Climate Change".

  • @FU2H8R
    @FU2H8R 2 месяца назад

    Archaeologically speaking it breaks my heart that the fact is overlooked pertaining to these civilizations. These structures and cities are built on top of prior civilizations that were built on even earlier civilizations. The dioriite shows volcanoes buried some. How about the only saltwater lake that sits 20,000 feet above sea level today. Yet was a port city in the past. Do your own research. Very interesting.

  • @K9_Ryu_SAR
    @K9_Ryu_SAR 2 месяца назад

    Why is Lex laughing at the idea of Mayan democracy?

    • @chrisconwright1210
      @chrisconwright1210 2 месяца назад +4

      Because it’s an idea we’ve never heard before, it’s cool and surprising a laugh of being baffled not a laugh of thinking they are incapable

    • @lreeher
      @lreeher 2 месяца назад +2

      Because democracy is late-stage foreshadowing.

  • @zelloking
    @zelloking 2 месяца назад

    You don’t know I know

  • @Nihillo
    @Nihillo 2 месяца назад

    And the known historic usage of psychedelics in these regions conveniently left out of the conversation again....

  • @JJDetroitfan925
    @JJDetroitfan925 2 месяца назад

    Human nature they were attacked and burned countless times

  • @bihariinpoland
    @bihariinpoland 2 месяца назад

    Wow i am sometimes quite surprised to see those people do archeology those who don't understand rituals not even closer to that culture or tribe. These so called educated archeologist who just study books written by someone who speculates what he assumed by watching available peices of pottery and utensils. Its funny for me. 😅😅 I wish atleast when they do study of sone sites they involve local scholars to understand more about historical relation of that culturals proofs

  • @FU2H8R
    @FU2H8R 2 месяца назад

    2012 was not the end of the cycle. Prior to 713 b.c all calendars were based on a 360 day year. None of theses “scholars” have compensated for this???? Well I know one that has. Jason Breshears. 12 published books. With 1200 book bibliography. I encourage those interested to read his work.

  • @twistpv
    @twistpv 2 месяца назад

    When you spoke of kings you said it right, but unintentionally?
    I would assume, they would see the kingdom beyond the flag, and then they low ball it and think it’s just own land, and the. They wonder what owning land was. Then it’s potentially lost and disrespected
    Like gay on mushroom. Oh it looked like flowing land? that balls sac an butt, so it’s butt
    And or, then they rediscover, only rely on how it was found, when they were all capable
    Enlightenment America’s all created equal or the mana wouldn’t work

    • @jankom.7783
      @jankom.7783 2 месяца назад

      What is this? A poem?

  • @alfredomontez9641
    @alfredomontez9641 2 месяца назад +4

    The Lord lives; every age has theirs. There is more technology in a living cell than all the human knowledge. Make no image of God; you never know who will rule next.

  • @Chris-xv7wd
    @Chris-xv7wd 2 месяца назад +1

    Cultures of savagery.

    • @GolerGkA
      @GolerGkA 2 месяца назад

      Representative democracy in 1250 is savagery?

    • @sebastianbenitez948
      @sebastianbenitez948 2 месяца назад +1

      yes your culture

    • @ericlitts9917
      @ericlitts9917 2 месяца назад +1

      Name a culture that isn't savage.

  • @EligioMedina-jh2zu
    @EligioMedina-jh2zu 2 месяца назад

    What a HORRIBLE .........

  • @artof1self
    @artof1self 2 месяца назад +2

    I find it interesting that the popular podcast channels always invite western academic intellectuals, scientists but never seem to critically think or ask hmmm... I wonder if Maya native descendants, traditional wisdom keepers, cultural bearers or language keepers are still alive today that I can invite and allow them to tell their own story? There are many people here in the US who believe the Native American people are extinct. I can suggest many native intellectuals who would enrich many people’s lives with their practical wisdom and knowledge of living. Look up Maya Ac Tah to listen and listen

  • @Jur4m3nt4d0
    @Jur4m3nt4d0 2 месяца назад +6

    Why do you have white people talking about the Amazon and Mayans all the time. The guy with long nose makes me especially upset. He mentions his brown friend that showed him everything he knows but never brings him onto his interviews with you. Even when you went to the Amazon he didn’t bring his partner with him. These discussions would be more interesting if you had people with local experience not textbook experience

    • @PauloSantos-zi3es
      @PauloSantos-zi3es 2 месяца назад +7

      Cry me a river!

    • @AnthonyJ_
      @AnthonyJ_ 2 месяца назад +8

      Why don’t you get smart enough to teach people about it then and stop complaining in the comments about what race is talking about the history of another. Lmao.

    • @FrictionFive
      @FrictionFive 2 месяца назад +3

      Identity history politics

    • @Jur4m3nt4d0
      @Jur4m3nt4d0 2 месяца назад

      @@AnthonyJ_ sup Anthony given your name I’m gonna assume you’re Italian or possibly Hispanic. It wouldn’t be wierd if some African guy came on and claimed to be an expert on your region of origin? It’s strange bro.

    • @artstrology
      @artstrology 2 месяца назад

      They always talk like the Maya are gone, when anyone can just fly down and talk to them. They give a different version of history than what western academia seems willing to afford. Most of this is protection for the church from its crimes against humanity.

  • @calvineaton8261
    @calvineaton8261 2 месяца назад +1

    This guy is silly.

  • @TheQuadrant193
    @TheQuadrant193 2 месяца назад

    no jaw bone face and neck are the same thing

  • @ezekielphotography6420
    @ezekielphotography6420 2 месяца назад +1

    Projecting European diseases and dismissing that nature is absurd. Yet he’s not accounting for one logical reasoning in the true knowledge that was burned by Spaniards to push their God onto every citizen out of fear

  • @alfredgee8961
    @alfredgee8961 2 месяца назад

    Cool now let’s get a black guy to talk about white history

    • @Knightfall21
      @Knightfall21 2 месяца назад +1

      nah

    • @JJRamos14
      @JJRamos14 2 месяца назад +1

      @@Knightfall21they do all the time. anyone who studies enough can talk about whatever they want. get that racism out of your heart

    • @Knightfall21
      @Knightfall21 2 месяца назад +1

      @@JJRamos14 Congrats on missing the irony on who's really racist in this thread. Hint: OP