Sorceress Edea Explained | Final Fantasy VIII Analysis
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2019
- Today I’m discussing Edea Kramer the antagonist-turned-ally in Final Fantasy 8. Known by-turns as Sorceress Edea or Matron - she forged a bold step in Final Fantasy scenario writing as a red-herring villain, who helped set game events in motion.
Indeed, owing to Final Fantasy VIII’s story, which relies on time loops, pseudo-science and sci-fi physics Edea and her past actions are integral to the world we find ourselves in and play through - owing to future Squall Leonhart and his message delivered to her at the end of the game… confused? Me too. But it’s a fantastic game story that arguably has Edea Kramer and Laguna Loire at the center of it, as we’ll discuss here.
If you like this character analysis (and Final Fantasy 8!) my original Final Fantasy VIII review is available here: • Final Fantasy VIII Rev...
This episode includes:
- Sorceress Edea origins
- Edea and Cid Kramer’s marriage
- Sorceress Edea as Matron
- Edea and Squall Leonhart
- Ultimecia and the sorceress powers
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While Edea is one of my favorite characters from FF8, she isn't the first to have this kind of backstory or switch in FF. That would actually be Golbez from FF4 who, after being controlled by the real villain for most of the game, is shown in the remainder of the game and in its sequel to have a much more benevolent personality.
Popular Opinion: She looked better possessed
I always found Edea visually intriguing and somewhat mysteriously attractive and you explained why that is rather well, "femme fatale, serpentine mystique"
He came through! Thanks for diving into Edea. Definitely sort of an overlooked character.
I think ultimecia is the most intriguing character on FF8. Because very little is known about her. And how powerful she is. I still don’t understand the whole time compression thing it’s confusing.
This Final Fantasy definitely has a lot of story that can be explored. I think this was a overlooked Final Fantasy
Am i the only one who thinks ff7 8 9 cgi scenes have been always the best in the entire franchise due to how it able to convey scnenes, feelings, emotions and actions WITHOUT THE NEED FOR VOICE ACTING???
FF4 did something similar with the villain bait and switch thing with Golbez and Zemus. Golbez is set up as the primary villain, even possessing Kain (the secondary antagonist), only to have it revealed that some far away guy was actually possessing HIM and then he decides to try to help you stop the guy, only to fail at the last minute because he's using darkness on a darkness guy. Time vs Space is the main difference here, but it's similar, though Edea doesn't go to the final dungeon to help with the villain like Golbez did, though that's probably down to the difference in ability to just go there like Golbez and FuSoYa could, since they just needed to beam to the moon and use a MacGuffin versus going through time and getting past a bunch of stuff designed specifically to stop the only type of people that could beat the villain. I guess she gets enough credit for helping with the plan to train people to stop the villain, since she would know what a Sorceress's weaknesses are, but the stories are similar yet different. That's how you do this kind of thing when you need to rehash stuff in a long-running series. Addendum: In the Japanese version, Ultimecia's speech to Galbadia was much longer and more roasty. This is a classic example of that meme where the villain just mouth flaps for ten minutes and then they dub them just saying "I'll destroy you!" over the last few seconds of mouth flaps. The only reason I see that they even cut this speech is because she mentions making the Final Fantasy with everyone and localization teams always seem to deem the title drop "too corny" and cut it out. Kind of a stupid reason, since every villain in the series is seeking this "Final Fantasy" in some way or another. It's so flexible that it can be applied to whatever it is they want to achieve. Censoring this little detail changes the villains in subtle but bad ways that are hard to really explain in a short conversation.
I look forward to updated analyses of Laguna, Kiros, and Ward, as well as the first video game character to ever use Social Media and have a notable photography method for social media named after her. YOU CANNOT TELL ME SELFIES WEREN'T NAMED FOR SELPHIE! I REFUSE TO ACCEPT THAT EXPLANATION!
I wonder if there is an intended connection to be made between how Squall's starting GF is Shiva, who employs ice magic and is really his first initial source of power both at the start of the game and to defeat the first boss Ifrit....to how Squall is defeated at the final boss of Act 1/ First Disk by his even earlier source of power (support) Edea, using ice magic. Irony or Coincidence?
I remember drawing her in highschool a few times.
You make good content, here have a sub while I binge on your backlog.
Edea: "Hey guys, it turns out I wasn't a sorceress atall since the end of disk 2, I gave my powers away to Rinoa subconciously!"
Really good analysis. I’m sorry I haven’t kept up as much. You’re doing good work.
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Edea's character switch was a great twist when I first played the game. It's part of the reason I got stuck on disc 3... that and leveling everyone too high with terrible stats.
great stuff bro! I've just purchased an original ps one copy of this game and am really looking forward to replaying it. I'll be honest when i first played it a lot of the more complicated character themes and story elements were lost on me so these have given me a lot of really useful context!
Why do you think Edea and Cid didn't tell Squall what they knew about his future? Was it so that he wouldn't be crushed under the weight of his fate? Or were they afraid that by telling him it might change the future? Or some other reason?
Would have been so great if Laguna's gang joined in the final battle against Ultimecia...