Love how 343 guilty spark managed to read the data files on the Pillar of Autumn remotely without any data clearance, just shows how powerful the forerunners were.
Lion Cross Agreed, but the forerunners were at technological mastery. Still though guilty spark talking to the humans when they were coming to the ring was most likely just radio communication
Keyes died like a badass. He endured over 24 hours straight of having his memories torn away, and fought back against the Gravemind until his very end in order to prevent it from learning of Earth.
Terminal #9 -- Keyes, That was what happened to poor old Jacob Keys... He died after losing every memory... EVERY MEMORY, read the book and your feel terrible
+TheVenger10 I didn't realize that, thank you. That's kind of a curious thought, isn't it? He would have to divorce himself from most of his memories to keep feeding that personal but useless information. I miss how the Bungie team wrote the lore.. the new stuff just isn't as interesting as the old details Bungie hid in their universe.
No, he is right, Keyes was still himself, the Flood was trying to access his CNI Transponder for the Pillar of Autumn's codes and the location of Earth. Keyes was fighting the infection when he kept repeating his rank to throw off the Flood intelligence trying to access the CNI Transponder. So he was still technically alive when Chief put him out of his misery...that's the whole point of his segment fighting the Flood mind invasion. The same deal happened with PVT. Jenkins in Halo: The Flood novel when he communicated using his last bit of himself (he was already infected and turned into a partial Flood Combat form) to cause the Truth and Reconciliation to crash on Alpha Halo to prevent the Flood infection from reaching Earth (Major Silva, ODST and Marine survivors commandeered the ship with Flood still inside to try and get off the ring and bring a captured Covenant ship and the Prophet of Stewardship (being the most valuable and principle objective target for Operation Red Flag and the Pillar of Autumn) for Humans to study since they normally self destructed when attempted to be captured by Human forces and no Prophets have ever been captured alive before to be used as a Prisoner of War to barter a Truce with the Covenant). Since PVT. Jenkins was partially infected, he could "hear" the thoughts of the FLood collective intelligence and alerted those around him the plan of the Flood to infect Earth and spread.
Honey Badger Oh what would I do without U lore guys :3 Dude I need your help. Scripting a Halo 1 fan movie, and I would like to know do I know everything if I read *Fall of reach* and *The Flood* ?
And to think, Guilty Spark began as a human working as a guide, then traveled across the Galaxy experiencing memories of his ancestors, and seeing and experiencing experiments conducted against humans with Flood samples. Finally dying and reborn to the flying lightbulb we all know and love. It's very tragic.
+MrBrenman21 "know and love" is just a common idiom, you can replace "love" with "regard" and it would still work. I don't think 343 is evil anyway. He was given a mission and endured a prolonged period of isolation, and that made him an asshole, but not evil (I enjoyed killing him in Halo 3). These "Terminal" vignettes make him sympathetic and a deep character.
And that Human whom was composed and became 343 Guilty Spark, Riser, by the Librarian's efforts was essentially the reincarnation of Forthencho, the Lord of Admirals. Rival of the Didact.
5:46 That Covenant AI straight up admits it knew the Covenant was going to release the Flood but chose not to warn them. Guess it figured the Flood would "free it" from it life of servitude.
Made Pariah Then why does he say only I shall remain. Also keep in mind most covenant ais are refitted human ones. It’s not a stretch to believe that he has similar motives to cortana in halo 5
Mr.Tweezy007 what I was thinking was the ai wanted the covenant to fire the rings so he could do what ever he wanted without the covenant breathing down his back
Don't the covenant use the hunter worms instead of AI (i know one of the terminals in 2 shows a worm crawling into a shio and it turned on. And also Scarabs are partially Worm). If that's the case the Hunter's might have known they'd be safe from the flood as they lack sufficient biomass (also i dunno the worms lifespan, but the bigger the colony the smarter they collectively get)
OneArmedGhoul they use the worms almost as wires or internal mechanisms. They aren’t really ai though. The hunters can form a plethora of bodies that can be armored and used as weapons, tanks, or soldiers. They are also quite smart and they seem to be able to reason and ponder especially when they are all communicating. The scene where it goes into the forerunner ship shows it’s intelligence because it relays information back to the prophets and knows how to work forerunner tech Also the covenant use the code from old human ai. They are corrupted however and seem to be degraded from either the cole protocol or the covenants lack of understanding of the technology
The Forunners should’ve told all the Monitors, “If a reclaimer does come along to any Halo ring, do everything as he/she says, even if it means destroying halo,” would make things easier.
I really enjoyed the “Forerunners are actually just Humans” theme bungie was pushing in the terminals. It makes sense why humans can just access every forerunner superweapon or fleet without any kind of restraint.
@@Predatornc1 Originally through the first three games, bungie fully intended for forerunners to be ancient humans. However when 343 took over they changed all that, OP is just talking about the original thing
I think the original idea was way better. 343 Industries made them a whole different race and it really made the whole "humans must inherit the Forerunners legacy" stuff not make any sense anymore.
@@Nephalem2002 Well, Master Chief and his comrade family already told to Martin O'Donnell about Halo Future up ahead as where it all begin. Martin O'Donnell was shock by Master Chief and his comrade family are Real Life, Forgotten, and Existence.. But Precursor vision to see Death and destruction Evils Over the Holy Spirit's..
I don't think anyone could do what Keyes did. To withhold information from the Gravemind, especially the location of Earth, would've been impossible. It cost him his memory of the two things he loved most, Miranda and Halsey. Despite it all, he prevailed, until Chief put him out of his misery, and his suffering was over.
The "Keyes" terminal was perfect for the level.the disturbing,horror theme of it,him slowly losing his own mind and will to the gravemind he was becoming... fighting to keep his humanity,memories,and sanity until the bitter end... i WISH the newer halo games still had those moments of pure terror,and hopelessness like 343 guilty sparks did... that level is still perfect to me after all these years.
I always wondered why does Guilty spark assumes that humans and covenants alike know about the Halo array and it's purpose... then again: the galaxy is littered with Forerunner technology, and NOT ONE monitor to explain shit to space-faring humans. Just write in a piece of paper: "you own the galaxy now, buy milk, activate halo if the flood return" and stick it to a rock on the Moon. Done.
Yeah that really was the thing that always irked me about the forerunners (or other ancient mysteriously absent entities/races for that matter) they didnt even bother to explain in the most basic of terms what the Flood was, what the Rings were and why all of their tech was left behind for humanity. I mean pull a Prothean or 2001 Space Odyssey Monolith and leave a massive honkin archive on mars for christ sake with half a dozen AIs or monitors or something. Just explain shit in clear and concise terms so that even the most paraliticaly stupid people understand shit, so nobody mucks everything up it's really not that hard.
5 лет назад+7
Gotta remember, 343 is going crazy by this point. And he has no way of knowing humanity doesn't know. For all he knows, they do. I mean, they show up at the ring, something no one in the entire galaxy is supposed to know about. Something so secret, he blocks the distress beacon from that crashed ship. He also really doesn't get a chance to talk to any humans, as they're too busy trying not to die. However, I do agree that explanation has some issues and holes. The best answer is simply "because the plot demands it". With the exception of The Fall of Reach, Halo 1 was truly the first of the Halo lore. They didn't know where the lore would be 20 years later. Hell, large portions of The Fall of Reach aren't even canon anymore!
Okay here 343GS point of view. The Halos was basically nukes that you should eat before even going to the areas. That why he was confused of people ignorance because the Covenant/UNSC/ONI hiding critical information.
Sure bro. I am very pissed that they did not adress it in halo 4 and not even in halo 5. This ship does not resemble any of know ships and that "green light" is also uknown - every race has some specifics.
I think the ship in that scene is the Infinite Succor, from the original Halo graphic novel. it looks similar, and would make sense why the sentients weren't responding.
Some time ago a Yotuber called Katarn343 asked this Very Same , Frank O'connor replied to him, and stated "Its somethig External, something Other" The source of this: ruclips.net/video/yETU4AbSc3U/видео.htmlm40s
I need to know what the crashed ship is. COME ON GIBE ANSWERS. Not human because they were devolved, not Forerunner as Spark didn't recognise the ship when he clearly recognises the humans aboard the Pillar of Autumn (And the ship isn't angular enough for Foreunners really), not flood for obvious reasons... WHOOOOOOOO????
I suddenly feel very bad for guilty spark he spent so much time alone and going mad for thousands of years wondering if he was the single last sentient being left in the entire cosmos and became so bored that he started ripping off chunks of his beloved instillation for some sort of entertainment until by the time we meet him he'd more or less completely lost it
Damn man...one of the first characters you meet in the novels . And one of the first in the first halo... He got so fucked lol I honestly cried the first time i saw this year's back
Lol with all the new lore about the "precursors", flood, forerunners, humanities "mantle", and even the Flood's ability to basically logic bomb anyone and anything (including AI), once reaching gravemind state and above, some comments from like 4 to 6 years ago seem so...angry or...shallow in their depth and truely just made me LOL. They can only go foward from this point on and Im glad they were able to tie everything together in an actual flowing picture....unlike current state Star Wars canon/ non canon BS that has literally tore that fan base and destroyed characters/ concepts/ philisophical (and inteperetable) images and arch-types that before had depth with SHALLOW answers and very BASIC ideas or reasoning.. Im VERY happy with the current state of this universe in comparison...were it has only gained depth and backstory and an inter-woven sense of complex story-telling that still makes me think "O wow, that makes sense now" AND is moving both emotionally and intellectually. Bravo 343...unlike Disney and their horrid actors/ story-weaving/ activision-esc milking and polluting of a once great Story...it has only perplexed me and honors the great wonder that captured us all in 2001..Bravo. -Salute-
Finally someone gets it, 343 gets so much hate and It blows my mind because they have done beautifully with Halos lore. Bungie set the foundation and 343 improved on everything bungie did
I first watched this waaaayyy back before Halo 4 and before I read the Forerunner books, so I didn't have context for some of the things 343 says. I decided to go back and watch all the terminals/videos to get ready for the new game, and I'm really glad I did. "Even with your assumed legacy I must verify the presence of your geas before allowing access" :-O. I know a lot of people have said 343 talking to the Chief and assuming he's Bornstellar is because he's crazy and confused, but I think this proves otherwise. This combined with what the Librarian says to the Chief in Halo 4 makes an extremely strong case that the Chief does have Bornstellar's latent memories.
Amy Swanberg Please dude help me! xD Im a Halo fanboy, know the story in games and little lore. But books and due to that most of the terminals just fly over my head! :3 Im doing H1 script and I would like to know what books should I read and are they the only things I have to do or is there even more sources?
Cryptum Primordium Silentium Contact Harvest Halo Wars Fall of Reach Halo Reach Halo CE/Halo CE Anniversary Edition The Flood First Strike Halo 2/Halo 2 Anniversary Edition Halo 3 ODSt Ghost of Onyx Halo 3 Glasslands Thursday War Mortal Dictata Halo 4 This is the order of the books and games up to Halo 4
and the forerunners wipe out the human civilisation once, they thought they were trying to invade them because they were capturing worlds, but they were retreating from the flood assault, that caused the human civilisation to collapse to a primitive state. source: halo, cryptum, the forerunner saga.
TheVenger10 didn't the forerunners also start to get rid of warships and to not have as big of a military as they used to have around when the humans were running from the flood. I forget where I heard this from.
If you read the books you will understand this all especially the forerunner saga which sheds light on 343 guilty spark, the didact, the librarian and alot of other things also the most recent of the halo books shed light on the events between 3 and 4
throughout the terminals, I guess Guilty Spark was slowly going Rampant, due to loneliness and questioning his orders and himself. He constantly shot down and destroyed all ships that got near, Never knowing what happened outside the ring. Eventually Humanity showed up, and assumed they knew of the rings and were searching for them from the get go, despite it being hte opposite. Then everyone was trying to survive Keys got hit by the flood and struggled to strip himself down to name, rank, and serial number until Chief came to kill him and end the suffering caused by the protogravemind. So Spark never got to know the truth until Chief refused to fire the halos. He then started reminiscing about the Librarian and the Diadact, as well as how humanity didnt follow an unknown protocol and how the forerunner drones would do things different, and decided to use the Covenant to get in contact with the other rings and use them. still wondering if he ever ended up losing to rampancy.
At 7:10 spark mentions losing communication for 4700+ years. I dunno about anyone else but after the first 1000 years hearing nothing back from anyone I would've gone on a galaxy floating tour and just set the door alarm for installation 04.
I've wondered why Gravemind corrupted The Didact. It was a bad move. Gravemind only fueled his hatred which led to The Didact composing humanity to create an army to defeat the Flood
wait... I remember at First Halo , when Cortona mention that there were Covenant Ships hiding in the other side of the Planet, they were ahead of them but couldn't land on Installation 04 due to its perimeter defense
If you've seen Halo 4 cutscenes and/or terminals it makes sense. Forerunners were the guardians of the galaxy. The prehistoric humans began aggressive expansion into forerunner territory, wiping out millions of lives. The forerunners saw this as aggression and fought the humans, not knowing that the humans were actually attempting to wipe out the flood. Seeing this, they decided to give humans another chance (although the didact later "conscripted" many humans into the prometheans)
@darnoc001 He is the Didact, supreme Military commander of the Forerunner military and the one who personally activated the halo array from 00. Her is the Librarian, the DIdact's lover and the Forerunner responsible for cataloging the thousands of species that the Halo array destroyed fro them to be re-seeded. She is also responsible for building the Portal on Earth.
Wait, so if 343 knew that the humans were coming and we’re being attacked by the Covenant, why didn’t he use the defenses to defend the Pillar of Autumn?
5 лет назад+1
1. 343 was going crazy by this point. Remember, he was venting out portions of the ring for "research", but for no reason really. He's talking to himself, and wishing for another monitor to speak with. So, he really isn't all there by the time of Halo 1. 2. "Protocol dictates my response" 343 is programmed with really only two things in mind. Monitor the ring, and prevent outbreak. That's it. And he was around when the rings were originally fired, so he knows firsthand how dangerous the flood is. Using up any of his resources that are intended to prevent outbreaks for anything, even if it's helping the reclaimers, is completely contradictory to his protocols. He simply can't do it. That doesn't mean he doesn't try. We see in his talk with covenant AI, he demands they stop their violence against the reclaimers. It's only when the flood is released that 343 can take a more "lethal" approach, because protocol has changed.
I think human tech will have changes in halo 4 , 5 and 6 maybe larger ships , mechs ( some in the trailers). you should all read the book glasslands it holds many hints as to where the story is going
@bearguyful the forerunners is the race that built the halos. The back story is flood invaded ancient human space. Ancient humans invaded forerunner space while fighting flood (they were pushed back). Forerunners were commanded by the Didact in war against the ancient humans. They won then 9k years later fought the flood. Losing the flood war they built the halo's as a doomsday switch against the flood. Thats the raw basics of it
I've always hated 343 Guilty Spark but I can't help but feel bad for the little bastard after being alone and without anyone to communicate with for thousands of years. Even for an AI, this must drive him completely mad since he gets so bored that he just starts shooting shit into space because there is truly nothing else to do. And once a vessel finally lands on his installation and he gets excited to communicate with its inhabitants, he solemnly comes to the realization that they have all perished in the crash. I still despise the fucker who killed Johnson, but he did it because everything that mattered to him had been taken by the Reclaimers he believed would complete his tasks with him. That's an incredibly sad existence.
man the halo story is the best. so in-depth and intriguing. can't wait for halo 4 to finnish the story. they should make an intimated halo movie, like a 2hr cutscene???
The Didact does not hate humans, at all, as long as we know until Silentium. The event you are referring to is when he lost his children in the war, but it was stated that he held no grudge against humanity.
@calumelliott im sure the covenant tried to get near it but were blown up, thats why they were already there just waiting on the other side of the planet next to halo, but when the pillar of autumn got close 343 disabled the defenses thus letting in both Humans and Covess in
The Didact was a Forerunner Warrior, and was legendary for his battles against the flood. I had presumed that he, along all the other forerunners, died when the array was set off. 343i somehow intends to bring him back, and make him evil...
Medicant Bias was on the Ark not in Requiem , and the Librarian should be dead as well , yet at the end of the Halo Primordium book , it is clearly revealed that the Librarian is still alive , so i would suspect that the Didact is still alive as well , if you read the terminals in Halo 3 you can read the Didact's pleas to the Librarian moments before the activation of the Halo's to join him in the Maginot Sphere ''Where it is safe'' so the forerunners are probably not dead.
not exactly, the forerunners thought Ancient Humanity was invading them so they started a war, but they were Running, from the Flood, when the Forerunners realised, it was already too late
@@ethanhooper8606 by that time, both humanity and the forerunners were weakened from war humanity kept running until they found earth, and the forerunners fired the halo rings.
if im translating their weird speech correctly it seems the covenant AI wanted to fire the Halo's so it could be free of them, no more masters for it to do their bidding...
Keyes managed to resist interrogation by an entity that literally controlled his entire mind. That man was unbreakable.
Well....
Keyes will never be forgotten
The dude fucked Halsey, I mean, what man would you have to be to be able to get in her bed
A man like Keyes that’s who!
Rip lol
I believe he lost this interrigation, he said "remember everything" and the hive mind replied "we already do". Implying that he already lost.
"This so called reclaimer decides to blow it all up" that quote along with chief in the flames is too badass
Love how 343 guilty spark managed to read the data files on the Pillar of Autumn remotely without any data clearance, just shows how powerful the forerunners were.
dan lamp didn’t chief blow up the autumn to stop him doing that ? Being able to read those files remotely breaks cannon ?
Lion Cross
Agreed, but the forerunners were at technological mastery. Still though guilty spark talking to the humans when they were coming to the ring was most likely just radio communication
@@lioncross1849 It did say limited access
@@lioncross1849 No, he blew up the Autumn to destroy the ring so the monitor couldn't find another way to fire it.
compmanio36 and more importantly destroy all the flood
still stuck on 343 getting so bored he started venting things into space.
You know who that reminds me of? Durandal. He sounds like he would get bored and do something like that during his search to escape universal closure.
@@racer927 I suppose it's better than the menial task of opening and closing doors.
Admit it. That would be all of us within 2 days.
@@HarryBillyBobGeorge 2 minutes*
Quarantine be like:
Keyes died like a badass. He endured over 24 hours straight of having his memories torn away, and fought back against the Gravemind until his very end in order to prevent it from learning of Earth.
Terminal #9 -- Keyes, That was what happened to poor old Jacob Keys... He died after losing every memory... EVERY MEMORY, read the book and your feel terrible
Umm ok...?
Cheif took the nueral implants therefore denying the Flood access to everything
TheVenger10 yeah similar to what cortana did except she had to use data stripped copies that were consumed by the gravemind which is far more worse.
+TheVenger10 I didn't realize that, thank you. That's kind of a curious thought, isn't it? He would have to divorce himself from most of his memories to keep feeding that personal but useless information.
I miss how the Bungie team wrote the lore.. the new stuff just isn't as interesting as the old details Bungie hid in their universe.
So whats the books name? :D
X CUBE Gaming halo the flood
19:28
Halo: **Fires**
Sentient life: I don't feel so good Mr. Didact
You really passed up the chance to say "Mr. Spark"? Smh
@@JayS96Bruh the iso didact fired the halos so it makes sense.
Thank god Cheif put Captain Keyes out of his misery.
Out of his misery? By that point the captain didn't even exist anymore, he simply killed a breathing corpse.
No, he is right, Keyes was still himself, the Flood was trying to access his CNI Transponder for the Pillar of Autumn's codes and the location of Earth. Keyes was fighting the infection when he kept repeating his rank to throw off the Flood intelligence trying to access the CNI Transponder. So he was still technically alive when Chief put him out of his misery...that's the whole point of his segment fighting the Flood mind invasion. The same deal happened with PVT. Jenkins in Halo: The Flood novel when he communicated using his last bit of himself (he was already infected and turned into a partial Flood Combat form) to cause the Truth and Reconciliation to crash on Alpha Halo to prevent the Flood infection from reaching Earth (Major Silva, ODST and Marine survivors commandeered the ship with Flood still inside to try and get off the ring and bring a captured Covenant ship and the Prophet of Stewardship (being the most valuable and principle objective target for Operation Red Flag and the Pillar of Autumn) for Humans to study since they normally self destructed when attempted to be captured by Human forces and no Prophets have ever been captured alive before to be used as a Prisoner of War to barter a Truce with the Covenant). Since PVT. Jenkins was partially infected, he could "hear" the thoughts of the FLood collective intelligence and alerted those around him the plan of the Flood to infect Earth and spread.
Honey Badger Oh what would I do without U lore guys :3 Dude I need your help. Scripting a Halo 1 fan movie, and I would like to know do I know everything if I read *Fall of reach* and *The Flood* ?
Read the books and just roam around on the wiki
Alien Overlord I think that is the worst way to go in halo
That Keyes part was freaky. well at least we knew that he went down like a true soldier, fighting.
Eternal life, no internet server. Damn.
tfw they didnt leave you with 100,000+ years worth of netflix and porn
Mfw there advanced species
Never stored infinite Terabyte of there show and porn
And to think, Guilty Spark began as a human working as a guide, then traveled across the Galaxy experiencing memories of his ancestors, and seeing and experiencing experiments conducted against humans with Flood samples. Finally dying and reborn to the flying lightbulb we all know and love. It's very tragic.
+MrBrenman21 "know and love" is just a common idiom, you can replace "love" with "regard" and it would still work.
I don't think 343 is evil anyway. He was given a mission and endured a prolonged period of isolation, and that made him an asshole, but not evil (I enjoyed killing him in Halo 3). These "Terminal" vignettes make him sympathetic and a deep character.
And that Human whom was composed and became 343 Guilty Spark, Riser, by the Librarian's efforts was essentially the reincarnation of Forthencho, the Lord of Admirals. Rival of the Didact.
5:46 That Covenant AI straight up admits it knew the Covenant was going to release the Flood but chose not to warn them. Guess it figured the Flood would "free it" from it life of servitude.
It was talking about the firing of the Halo freeing it.
Made Pariah Then why does he say only I shall remain. Also keep in mind most covenant ais are refitted human ones. It’s not a stretch to believe that he has similar motives to cortana in halo 5
Mr.Tweezy007 what I was thinking was the ai wanted the covenant to fire the rings so he could do what ever he wanted without the covenant breathing down his back
Don't the covenant use the hunter worms instead of AI (i know one of the terminals in 2 shows a worm crawling into a shio and it turned on. And also Scarabs are partially Worm). If that's the case the Hunter's might have known they'd be safe from the flood as they lack sufficient biomass (also i dunno the worms lifespan, but the bigger the colony the smarter they collectively get)
OneArmedGhoul they use the worms almost as wires or internal mechanisms. They aren’t really ai though. The hunters can form a plethora of bodies that can be armored and used as weapons, tanks, or soldiers. They are also quite smart and they seem to be able to reason and ponder especially when they are all communicating.
The scene where it goes into the forerunner ship shows it’s intelligence because it relays information back to the prophets and knows how to work forerunner tech
Also the covenant use the code from old human ai. They are corrupted however and seem to be degraded from either the cole protocol or the covenants lack of understanding of the technology
I like how 343 got so bored he just started throwing things into space 😂
What the hell else did I have to do after all that time in 'quarantine!'
@@davocal1 we have d1cks so beat IT!
Forget the walking dead and resident evil, there needs to be a movie based on a flood apacolypse
A Halo movie in general would be awesome
Despite everything he did and everything he caused, these terminals really made me feel bad for Spark.
RavenSena
He still killed Johnson, I'll never forgive him for that!!!!!
Zach Boyd
Feeling bad =/= forgiving
Truer words have never been spoken.
Honestly can you really blame him for killing Johnson, I mean he was going to destroy everything Spark was supposed to protect.
Ny empathy died when he killed srg Johnson.
lets just let it sink the fact that the fucking light bulb was 30 seconds away from killing this game before it even started
The Keyes terminal is probably the most bone chilling thing in the entire lore.
Yeah man
I dunno the story about the Mona Lisa is pretty horrifying
Memeologist well it’s the fact Keyes is alive
The Forunners should’ve told all the Monitors, “If a reclaimer does come along to any Halo ring, do everything as he/she says, even if it means destroying halo,” would make things easier.
Leland211st then the flood will kill us All.
Wouldn't happen. Halo was their weapon to defeat the flood, having them be destroyed would invalidate their effort during their war with the flood.
I really enjoyed the “Forerunners are actually just Humans” theme bungie was pushing in the terminals. It makes sense why humans can just access every forerunner superweapon or fleet without any kind of restraint.
But 343 did this.
@@Predatornc1 Originally through the first three games, bungie fully intended for forerunners to be ancient humans. However when 343 took over they changed all that, OP is just talking about the original thing
@@Zero-ge4vb but there were no terminals in Halo CE 2001 ;-;
@@ethanhooper8606 He means the ones in Halo 3!
I think the original idea was way better. 343 Industries made them a whole different race and it really made the whole "humans must inherit the Forerunners legacy" stuff not make any sense anymore.
That segment of Captain Keyes took me right back about 13 years ago when I first read it in the book. How sad and disturbed it made me feel. Tragic.
“I’ve been away far too long... YOU... have been away far too long.”
Spine chills.
Keyes must've been a lucky guy since he had a thing with a younger Halsey
Now I feel bad for Guilty Spark
This is exactly why he's important to the Halo Universe..
As well you should, Reclaimer! You so get me now. Hahaha.
5 people experienced most unpleasant counter-measures.
343 Guilty spark enforcing quarantine like a absolute mad lad
Dammit Jenkins, FIRE YOUR WEAPON!
"There's too many Sarge!!!"
“Awww, this is LOCO!!”
@@ethanhooper8606 "GET BACK HERE MARINE THAT'S AN ORDER"
Schmityy722 JENKINS
@@Nephalem2002 Well, Master Chief and his comrade family already told to Martin O'Donnell about Halo Future up ahead as where it all begin. Martin O'Donnell was shock by Master Chief and his comrade family are Real Life, Forgotten, and Existence.. But Precursor vision to see Death and destruction Evils Over the Holy Spirit's..
That crashed ship is totally a reaper
Seb Shelley Indeed !
Lmao
*ASSUMING CONTROL*
I don't think anyone could do what Keyes did. To withhold information from the Gravemind, especially the location of Earth, would've been impossible. It cost him his memory of the two things he loved most, Miranda and Halsey. Despite it all, he prevailed, until Chief put him out of his misery, and his suffering was over.
The Numbers Mason, What Do The Numbers Mean!
Wrong game man!
Papa lol
That's every math(s) class.
😂
Austin Mars He's doing the reference because of the Jacob Keys terminal.
Keyes voice actor is a damn good one. The amount of emotion is fuckin chilling.
The "Keyes" terminal was perfect for the level.the disturbing,horror theme of it,him slowly losing his own mind and will to the gravemind he was becoming... fighting to keep his humanity,memories,and sanity until the bitter end...
i WISH the newer halo games still had those moments of pure terror,and hopelessness like 343 guilty sparks did... that level is still perfect to me after all these years.
No reason to, the Flood is gone
@@quentinvega6154 its not.
While Keyes resisting the Flood is really badass, you can’t deny how damn creepy it is... it gave me the damn chills when I saw it.
I always wondered why does Guilty spark assumes that humans and covenants alike know about the Halo array and it's purpose... then again: the galaxy is littered with Forerunner technology, and NOT ONE monitor to explain shit to space-faring humans. Just write in a piece of paper: "you own the galaxy now, buy milk, activate halo if the flood return" and stick it to a rock on the Moon. Done.
Yeah that really was the thing that always irked me about the forerunners (or other ancient mysteriously absent entities/races for that matter) they didnt even bother to explain in the most basic of terms what the Flood was, what the Rings were and why all of their tech was left behind for humanity. I mean pull a Prothean or 2001 Space Odyssey Monolith and leave a massive honkin archive on mars for christ sake with half a dozen AIs or monitors or something. Just explain shit in clear and concise terms so that even the most paraliticaly stupid people understand shit, so nobody mucks everything up it's really not that hard.
Gotta remember, 343 is going crazy by this point. And he has no way of knowing humanity doesn't know. For all he knows, they do. I mean, they show up at the ring, something no one in the entire galaxy is supposed to know about. Something so secret, he blocks the distress beacon from that crashed ship. He also really doesn't get a chance to talk to any humans, as they're too busy trying not to die. However, I do agree that explanation has some issues and holes. The best answer is simply "because the plot demands it".
With the exception of The Fall of Reach, Halo 1 was truly the first of the Halo lore. They didn't know where the lore would be 20 years later. Hell, large portions of The Fall of Reach aren't even canon anymore!
Okay here 343GS point of view. The Halos was basically nukes that you should eat before even going to the areas. That why he was confused of people ignorance because the Covenant/UNSC/ONI hiding critical information.
Whassup Reclaimers. If any of you would like a Spark Cameo, you can find me here: www.cameo.com/guiltyspark
I feel so sorry for the little guy. Couldnt leave him a buddy?
Poor guy....so lonely *I'LL GIVE U A HUG MAN* *hugs*
10:00 anyone else insanely curious to who or what those sentients were? Any theories, because I am literally drawing a blank.
Covenant
way before they were formed. mabye prothets?
Sure bro. I am very pissed that they did not adress it in halo 4 and not even in halo 5. This ship does not resemble any of know ships and that "green light" is also uknown - every race has some specifics.
I think the ship in that scene is the Infinite Succor, from the original Halo graphic novel. it looks similar, and would make sense why the sentients weren't responding.
Some time ago a Yotuber called Katarn343 asked this Very Same , Frank O'connor replied to him, and stated "Its somethig External, something Other" The source of this: ruclips.net/video/yETU4AbSc3U/видео.htmlm40s
I need to know what the crashed ship is.
COME ON GIBE ANSWERS.
Not human because they were devolved, not Forerunner as Spark didn't recognise the ship when he clearly recognises the humans aboard the Pillar of Autumn (And the ship isn't angular enough for Foreunners really), not flood for obvious reasons...
WHOOOOOOOO????
+Em .Blackburn Such a lust for Answers. Whooooo ?!!!!?
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO????????
The Pillar of Autumn crashed because it was heavily damaged from two battles with the Covenant.
Ok... that is obvious... are you lost friend? x]
Oh, that ship.
I do not know.
now imagine that happening to billions of humans during the Forrunner-human war super sad.
That made a lot more sense after watching the video. Thank you from someone who knows squat about Halo lore, and now i'm really pumped for Halo 4.
I suddenly feel very bad for guilty spark he spent so much time alone and going mad for thousands of years wondering if he was the single last sentient being left in the entire cosmos and became so bored that he started ripping off chunks of his beloved instillation for some sort of entertainment until by the time we meet him he'd more or less completely lost it
Last terminal on the Pillar of Autumn laid the groundwork for Halo 4 and beyond
Man watching Keyes try to fight the flood with all his might was incredibly heart wrenching :(
Damn man...one of the first characters you meet in the novels .
And one of the first in the first halo...
He got so fucked lol
I honestly cried the first time i saw this year's back
"he and her" are the didact and the libarian
The lifeworkers look so sad.
Lol with all the new lore about the "precursors", flood, forerunners, humanities "mantle", and even the Flood's ability to basically logic bomb anyone and anything (including AI), once reaching gravemind state and above, some comments from like 4 to 6 years ago seem so...angry or...shallow in their depth and truely just made me LOL. They can only go foward from this point on and Im glad they were able to tie everything together in an actual flowing picture....unlike current state Star Wars canon/ non canon BS that has literally tore that fan base and destroyed characters/ concepts/ philisophical (and inteperetable) images and arch-types that before had depth with SHALLOW answers and very BASIC ideas or reasoning..
Im VERY happy with the current state of this universe in comparison...were it has only gained depth and backstory and an inter-woven sense of complex story-telling that still makes me think "O wow, that makes sense now" AND is moving both emotionally and intellectually. Bravo 343...unlike Disney and their horrid actors/ story-weaving/ activision-esc milking and polluting of a once great Story...it has only perplexed me and honors the great wonder that captured us all in 2001..Bravo. -Salute-
Finally someone gets it, 343 gets so much hate and It blows my mind because they have done beautifully with Halos lore. Bungie set the foundation and 343 improved on everything bungie did
I wish I could thumb this up 10.000
I sorta agree, but I feel like 343 made a lot of things unnecessarily convoluted :/
Love the lore, hate the game
Fucking hate what Disney has done to Star Wars.
Halo music make me proud that i played these games ❤
I first watched this waaaayyy back before Halo 4 and before I read the Forerunner books, so I didn't have context for some of the things 343 says. I decided to go back and watch all the terminals/videos to get ready for the new game, and I'm really glad I did.
"Even with your assumed legacy I must verify the presence of your geas before allowing access" :-O.
I know a lot of people have said 343 talking to the Chief and assuming he's Bornstellar is because he's crazy and confused, but I think this proves otherwise. This combined with what the Librarian says to the Chief in Halo 4 makes an extremely strong case that the Chief does have Bornstellar's latent memories.
Amy Swanberg Please dude help me! xD Im a Halo fanboy, know the story in games and little lore. But books and due to that most of the terminals just fly over my head! :3
Im doing H1 script and I would like to know what books should I read and are they the only things I have to do or is there even more sources?
Cryptum
Primordium
Silentium
Contact Harvest
Halo Wars
Fall of Reach
Halo Reach
Halo CE/Halo CE Anniversary Edition
The Flood
First Strike
Halo 2/Halo 2 Anniversary Edition
Halo 3 ODSt
Ghost of Onyx
Halo 3
Glasslands
Thursday War
Mortal Dictata
Halo 4
This is the order of the books and games up to Halo 4
I could listen to guilty spark talk all day about halo shit
To actually speak to a gravemind uninfected would be nearly impossible , like speaking to someone who is from all time itself .
These terminals are really cool
22:39 mm onions? Yep onions in my eyes
I know narratively most people absolutely love mystery, but I really get curious about the random ship that crashed on the ring and did nothing.
This has got to be one of the coolest things I have ever seen.
The mystery of the crashed ship is such a cool tease, even if we’ll likely never get an answer.
If anyone read the books, the terminals sum it up nicely.
and the forerunners wipe out the human civilisation once, they thought they were trying to invade them because they were capturing worlds, but they were retreating from the flood assault, that caused the human civilisation to collapse to a primitive state.
source: halo, cryptum, the forerunner saga.
If you read the last book. you would know that it clearly explains that the forerunners devolved Humans.
+TheVenger10
TheVenger10 didn't the forerunners also start to get rid of warships and to not have as big of a military as they used to have around when the humans were running from the flood. I forget where I heard this from.
If you read the books you will understand this all especially the forerunner saga which sheds light on 343 guilty spark, the didact, the librarian and alot of other things also the most recent of the halo books shed light on the events between 3 and 4
at 4:19 that sounds like the voice at the end of the halo 4 trailer "i've been waiting a long time for this, reclaimer"
throughout the terminals, I guess Guilty Spark was slowly going Rampant, due to loneliness and questioning his orders and himself. He constantly shot down and destroyed all ships that got near, Never knowing what happened outside the ring. Eventually Humanity showed up, and assumed they knew of the rings and were searching for them from the get go, despite it being hte opposite. Then everyone was trying to survive Keys got hit by the flood and struggled to strip himself down to name, rank, and serial number until Chief came to kill him and end the suffering caused by the protogravemind. So Spark never got to know the truth until Chief refused to fire the halos. He then started reminiscing about the Librarian and the Diadact, as well as how humanity didnt follow an unknown protocol and how the forerunner drones would do things different, and decided to use the Covenant to get in contact with the other rings and use them. still wondering if he ever ended up losing to rampancy.
Slowly losing his mind.
Even Forrunner AIs faced rampancy, they just lived a lot longer than the human AI's 7 years.
@@zachboyd4749 Spark is a human though.
@Voldy356
Humans can still go insane
At 7:10 spark mentions losing communication for 4700+ years. I dunno about anyone else but after the first 1000 years hearing nothing back from anyone I would've gone on a galaxy floating tour and just set the door alarm for installation 04.
The death of Keyes might be one of the most tragic in the entire Halo franchise, second only to when Dr Halsey finds out that Miranda was killed.
17:51 Chakas's shadow
That's actually the Librarian's; her last moments were on Earth in a field in front of a mountain before the Halo Array fired.
I find guilty spark's voice very relaxing, for some reason.
24:34 I’m fucking dying laughing at how unreasonably badass that shot of Chief is! It’s so fucking cool I can’t stand it!
I've wondered why Gravemind corrupted The Didact. It was a bad move. Gravemind only fueled his hatred which led to The Didact composing humanity to create an army to defeat the Flood
It was to create disaary and chaos in the Ecumune and to divide The Forerunners further
@@spartan-6364 *disarray *ecumene
Ya know i actually started to cry first time watching captain keys terminal
probably the freighter that cortona disabled during the fight above halo. If you replay the silent cartographer you can hear her talk about it.
Ravager0926 If your talking about the crashed ship in that one terminal then your a dumbass
Joshua Purdy no need for insults, asswipe.
"I have the folly of opposing him personally." Lord of admiral's forthencho.
wait... I remember at First Halo , when Cortona mention that there were Covenant Ships hiding in the other side of the Planet, they were ahead of them but couldn't land on Installation 04 due to its perimeter defense
I like that there was other species that visited the Rings before the UNSC and Covenant found it out of the blue.
Imagine how different things might have been if they were able to get guilty sparks message approaching the ring
nice way to sum things up man! thanks for the info
If you've seen Halo 4 cutscenes and/or terminals it makes sense.
Forerunners were the guardians of the galaxy. The prehistoric humans began aggressive expansion into forerunner territory, wiping out millions of lives.
The forerunners saw this as aggression and fought the humans, not knowing that the humans were actually attempting to wipe out the flood.
Seeing this, they decided to give humans another chance (although the didact later "conscripted" many humans into the prometheans)
Guardians of the Galaxy?....What a bunch of Assholes
@darnoc001 He is the Didact, supreme Military commander of the Forerunner military and the one who personally activated the halo array from 00.
Her is the Librarian, the DIdact's lover and the Forerunner responsible for cataloging the thousands of species that the Halo array destroyed fro them to be re-seeded. She is also responsible for building the Portal on Earth.
Wait, so if 343 knew that the humans were coming and we’re being attacked by the Covenant, why didn’t he use the defenses to defend the Pillar of Autumn?
1. 343 was going crazy by this point. Remember, he was venting out portions of the ring for "research", but for no reason really. He's talking to himself, and wishing for another monitor to speak with. So, he really isn't all there by the time of Halo 1.
2. "Protocol dictates my response" 343 is programmed with really only two things in mind. Monitor the ring, and prevent outbreak. That's it. And he was around when the rings were originally fired, so he knows firsthand how dangerous the flood is. Using up any of his resources that are intended to prevent outbreaks for anything, even if it's helping the reclaimers, is completely contradictory to his protocols. He simply can't do it. That doesn't mean he doesn't try. We see in his talk with covenant AI, he demands they stop their violence against the reclaimers. It's only when the flood is released that 343 can take a more "lethal" approach, because protocol has changed.
pause at exactly 11:49 and tell me that doesnt look exactly like a destroyed Reaper from Mass Effect o_O
Garrus Vakarian but the front of the ship is the other way and it's not bent like the reapers
Garrus Vakarian we are assuming direct contrl
Garrus Vakarian it’s a meddler ship
Funny cause the writers for halo 4 were from mass effect
Probably an Easter egg
Anyone else feel like this whole video is both a good and bad acid trip?
I think human tech will have changes in halo 4 , 5 and 6 maybe larger ships , mechs ( some in the trailers). you should all read the book glasslands it holds many hints as to where the story is going
@bearguyful the forerunners is the race that built the halos. The back story is flood invaded ancient human space. Ancient humans invaded forerunner space while fighting flood (they were pushed back). Forerunners were commanded by the Didact in war against the ancient humans. They won then 9k years later fought the flood. Losing the flood war they built the halo's as a doomsday switch against the flood. Thats the raw basics of it
I always wondered why in the first terminal did he deactivate the defense systems if the covenant fleet was there before the Pillar of Autumn.
they showed up shortly after the Autumn, which by that point defenses were down to allow entry for humanity.
is it odd that i find guilty spark's voice .... soothing
I've always hated 343 Guilty Spark but I can't help but feel bad for the little bastard after being alone and without anyone to communicate with for thousands of years. Even for an AI, this must drive him completely mad since he gets so bored that he just starts shooting shit into space because there is truly nothing else to do. And once a vessel finally lands on his installation and he gets excited to communicate with its inhabitants, he solemnly comes to the realization that they have all perished in the crash. I still despise the fucker who killed Johnson, but he did it because everything that mattered to him had been taken by the Reclaimers he believed would complete his tasks with him. That's an incredibly sad existence.
man the halo story is the best. so in-depth and intriguing. can't wait for halo 4 to finnish the story. they should make an intimated halo movie, like a 2hr cutscene???
The Didact does not hate humans, at all, as long as we know until Silentium. The event you are referring to is when he lost his children in the war, but it was stated that he held no grudge against humanity.
Remember when ONE GUY in Woolie's chat said "These are not spoiler's, you're dumb"
22:42 the interrogation from Halo: the flood!
@calumelliott im sure the covenant tried to get near it but were blown up, thats why they were already there just waiting on the other side of the planet next to halo, but when the pillar of autumn got close 343 disabled the defenses thus letting in both Humans and Covess in
The Didact was a Forerunner Warrior, and was legendary for his battles against the flood. I had presumed that he, along all the other forerunners, died when the array was set off. 343i somehow intends to bring him back, and make him evil...
Im currently on a halo binge. Thanks for the fix..👍🍻😎
Medicant Bias was on the Ark not in Requiem , and the Librarian should be dead as well , yet at the end of the Halo Primordium book , it is clearly revealed that the Librarian is still alive , so i would suspect that the Didact is still alive as well , if you read the terminals in Halo 3 you can read the Didact's pleas to the Librarian moments before the activation of the Halo's to join him in the Maginot Sphere ''Where it is safe'' so the forerunners are probably not dead.
The Humans and the Forerunners were already rivals.
not exactly, the forerunners thought Ancient Humanity was invading them so they started a war, but they were Running, from the Flood, when the Forerunners realised, it was already too late
@@ethanhooper8606 by that time, both humanity and the forerunners were weakened from war humanity kept running until they found earth, and the forerunners fired the halo rings.
poor Keyes :(
Halo: Cryptum.
Great read, and will explain everything you're seeing here :)
if im translating their weird speech correctly it seems the covenant AI wanted to fire the Halo's so it could be free of them, no more masters for it to do their bidding...
The ship that crashed but no one came out so it was sealed, looks like a Reaper from Mass Effect.
*ASSUMING CONTROL*
This all makes so much more since now that i have played halo 4
OKay, hold up, is that a fuckin' REAPER?
Captain Jacob Keys: im not going to give you my keys bitch!