Metal Gear Solid 3D (3DS) vs. Metal Gear Solid 3 HD (PS3/PS5) | Side by Side
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- Side by side comparison between Metal Gear Solid: Snake Eater 3D, released for Nintendo 3DS in 2012 and Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater - HD Edition, released for PS3, Vita and X360 in 2011. Snake Eater 3D was emulated in High definition.
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If we're talking hardware resolution, the 3DS' smaller screen did a fantastic job of hiding low res textures.
You do realise that textures are created for said resolution, right? Video games are made for the hardware...
@@WardenOfTerra The fact he's posting a comment about that already indicates that he does. The comment compares the intended viewing experience on the intended hardware to the HD emulated experience shown in the video by stating that the low-res texture drawback the video shows is well hidden by the intended hardware's lower overall screen resolution, thus meaning the game seems to do a good job at maintaining adequate visual detail when experienced on the system it was made for.
@@T045-TERRyep, I've got a 2DS, actual hardware looks way better than any emulator, also the screen has a really good pixel density, cause even if it's 240p it still looks nice and sharp, 3DS has some really good antialiasing going on to avoid a pixelated mess without looking blurry to hide it
Honestly a seriously impressive port to the 3DS. Just shows the potential that game developers have once they give us exactly what we want
Well, exactly what we want would be a HD port to PC
Though the game looks and plays horrible on the 3DS
@TotallySearch Its still impresive cause it runs on low power mobile hardware.
@@SavingPrivateBob You have not chosen your words wisely
The framerate is bad but you easily adjust, the graphics are quite literally an improvement if you look at some finer model detailing and even the shading. The rest is prone to artistic opinion on not technical facts. The controls are also the best MGS3 ever had what are you on, touchscreen for instant inventory access, crouch walking, aimining while moving, third person aiming, and circle pad pro support it's literally the best@@TotallySearch
I'm actually pretty impressed with the 3DS. There are a few brief points when the 3DS version looks better because of lighting effects like around 3:20 - 3:30
The 3ds version he is running is being upscaled via citra emulator.
@@LewdnCute I'm well aware, but that doesn't change the fact that geometric lighting is better on it.
@@lucaspereirahmj I think it’s better with the 360p resolution
The other good thing in 3ds port is the peace walker mechanics.
Crouch walk, shoulder aiming, and some other things makes it little more better than the OG.
'geometric lighting' doesn't exist pal lmao
All things considered the 3ds version isn't too bad
Don't forget he used an HD emulator for the 3ds version..but yes not bad at all
Yeah he's definitely upscaling the 3ds version with citra.
Keep in mind this isn't what the 3DS version looked like. This is what the 3DS version COULD have looked like, if the 3DS hardware was hundreds of times more powerful than it actually was.
I mean to be fair the 3DS version wasn't that bad
It's just that if I went to replay MGS3 or 2 I'd rather do it on the Vita
The 3ds version dose benefit from some updated models but unfortunately is let down by nasty image quality even on the small screen and compared to other 3ds games. The FPS isn't very good either
That’s crazy you can crouch walk in the 3ds version.
Of course this is a Graphic Comparison....But one thing really impressed me by his(3DS) side...He can Crouch and Walk also..which is great...👍
The 3DS version was a proper upgrade from controls to visuals. It’s only problem: low resolution and frame rates, but on the 3DS screen, it was good enough. This is the definitive version.
@@ordohereticus3427The frame rate doesn't bother much, and even though the resolution is low, on the 3ds' small screen the game looks extremely beautiful.
Great video! But I think a better comparison would be the 3DS version in HD VS the PS2 version in HD since the PS3/Xbox 360 version received texture updates. The 3DS version with HD textures probably would look even better since the game had some light effects updated. The FPS was really a problem of the 3DS version, but at the time it really impressed me.
But don't forget this is running on an emulater, upscaled, and running on fast faster hardware. On the real 3DS is ran at about 12fps so want smooth like it's showing in this video.
A true comparision would be to compare the real 3DS running thy game alongside the PS2. There would be a far larger difference. But thanks to emulation we can enjoy these games looking and running fast better to see their full potential, just as emulation unlocked the true beauty of many N64 games.
The 3DS version is VERY rough around the edges, but it was really cool how you could duck-walk, aim in 3rd person, watch the cutscenes in 3D and that they actually brought back the voice actor of Sigint for new lines.
The game should be remade with the Fox Engine, it would be so beautiful and realistic
Yesss!!
They already did I won like 10,000 Yen last week
*cries in pachinko cash grab*
@GoTi4No odds are it's all pre-rendered footage
@@CrazyP0tat095 i think it's not actually
As I first played this game, I felt a lot of Peace Walker vibes with the crouch-walking and the stun circle. I’m pretty sure whoever made the port just pasted the engine along with whatever other things were left out of PW, like carrying soldiers.
Yup. It honestly makes me confused as it would make more sense to port PW.
3DS looked like it was chugging, but it also had better looking shadows and more color to it
The colors are just way, way better on the 3DS version. Definitely worth emulating that one over the HD version. The assets are better, the UI is better, and the new mechanics make it more fun.
On OG 3DS the game runs at 12 FPS brutal
@@TotallySearchnew 3Ds stays winning
@@TotallySearch there's plenty of other games that ran 15fps that arent half the game that mgs3ds port is
@@RamdozaChYou mean losing right? The game is hard locked at 20fps, playing it on a N3DS doesn't make it run better
no crouch walk in master collection...
I like the more refined shaders and new PW-style controls of the 3DS version over the original, but the poor frame rate was a problem.
PC port for Metal Gear Solid 3 would be great.
For now the only way is to use the HD version under RPCS3
@@Devilot91 yeah and that sucks especially when mgs 1 and 2 are already on pc and snake eater its not
Its avaliable
It's kinda weird, at moments the PS3 version looks better, at others the 3DS does, it's impressive specially for a console slightly weaker than a PSP, although the framerate is one NOTICEABLE difference
I remember reading on back in the day that the 3DS version had way more refined visuals than the HD versions, and I always thought it was kind of a dubious claim because why would do it if the game already runs worse - and yet looking at both now, I'm shocked, 3DS Snake has normalmaps on his clothes, his face is way more pronounced and detailed, as is his hair, the colors are also better and there's envoirment effects on the characters in the cutscenes.
I still own my copy, I'm stunned THIS version hasn't been ported anywhere else, especially since this version seems like it has the upgraded Peace Walker controls instead of the original or the substance version - I dunno, I never played either. I bought a PS3 recently for MGS4, I'm gonna want to play the hd collection also
My thoughts exactly. This is the definitive version and would’ve been phenomenal on other consoles, including the Vita.
you are forgetting one more very basic thing, you can't crouch on the ps3 version
"You don't have what it takes to shoot me"
I'm seriously impressed the 3DS could handle the grass as well as the PS2 and HD versions- mobile hardware typically doesn't have much in the way of bandwidth and fillrate.
Metal Gear Solid 3 is a Legendary Game!!
Best game out of series
Thanks for trimming the cutscenes and showing us what we wanted to see. Excellent work
It's wired. The ps3 is cleaner and sharper and has more detail in some parts, meanwhile the 3ds version is slightly blurry yet more detailed in some other parts.
The best thing of the 3DS port was the controls. I can't go back and play the original again because of them
just makes me wish kojima pushed an update for the 3ds version that it could use more of the ram that the new3ds models had
It's impressive that the game is on the 3DS but it probably didn't sell well enough to get MGS2.
Wow even on Nintendo 3DS when he touch the tall grass it moves thats a amazing detail. Its funny how some New gen games don't have this like the grass or other plants don't move when u touch them
I really wish the crouch walk was included in the first version of mgs3
His hair is spikier in the 3DS version and honestly it looks a little better lol
Keep in mind that snake eater was originally on a fixed camera. This is the reason why certain texture might have looked bad. The player was never meant to have free control of the camera. This is the reason why mgs 3 original really impressed me.
No, textures have the same quality across the board and the player does have free control of the camera when you use the first person view
I'd probably put the emulation part in the title as it can be otherwise pretty misleading. Even looking at the footage it's easy to spot that it's not running on a 3DS, given it's tiny resolution and how pixelated it would look compared to the ps3 version
I would have preferred seeing non-emulation and emulation representations of the 3DS version included in this video comparison. Showing only a highly increased internal resolution version of a 3DS title does not give an accurate portrayal of what the game was, just what the game could have been.
I agree. So it turned out a comparison citra against ps3
It's pretty much impossible to direct capture a 3DS due to a lack of an output port.
the 3ds version was done so well, it plays almost just like peace walker for the PSP, and with the circle pad pro it was a proper shooter. my only complaint is that crouch walking at max speed (full tilt) only lowered your camo index by -5% of your crouching bonus, rendering you practically invisible to most enemies. speed running the game was insanely fun on the 3ds though and felt very clean for a port
People forget that the 3D exploration of MGS3 started with Metal Gear Ac!d 2. A great roleplay strategy game that I come back to once every while
my opinion?
well the PS3 version obviously looks nicer, however on a display closer to the 3ds screen (like a phone) the 3ds version doesn't look that much worse and is better optimised for a smaller screen size, the biggest downside is that the 3ds version has a crap framerate, but it has crouch walking, MGS4 style third person aiming still has first person aiming and has so many gameplay improvements that it is a shame that the peacewalker engine version of Metal Gear Solid 3 is exclusive to the 3ds, but additionally more confusing that Peace Walker didn't get a 3ds port.
It’s like Twin Snakes all over again.
Japanese companies are weird like that
Adding crouch walk is so nice
The only thing I don't like about the 3DS version is the frame rate. Reminds me a lot of Peace Walker on the PSP.
Pretty damn good for a handheld!
Wait a minute, i didnt know that Metal Gear Solid 3 also launched in 3ds 😕😕.
Yup, came with a free 3ds theme too
Metal Gear Solid on 3DS was horrible , the awkward control the very low frame rate it 20 fps all the time and can dip to 10 fps in some cases
It was one of the reasons why I bought a 3ds. I remember when it was showcased on a tech demo before the 3ds release and at the time, there was no other portable version of mgs 3 (the vita HD collection wasn't announced then)
@@jajabinx35 the demo one used different model and a different engine from the final game and it was not even running on 3ds hardware it was running on the tegra 3 prototype that was scrapped last minute
@@TheBlackbirdii You are right. I just rewatched the announcement video again (over 10 years ago now, wow time flies), and i can see the difference. It looks more closer to Peace Walker's engine to be honest...
the bump mapping or shader system on 3ds doesn't match with the art very well it's nice technically but looks fairly ugly, but still impressive it runs on the 3ds either way
3ds uses normal maps, which is why the lighting looks more dynamic on snakes cloth and face.
The 3ds version is actually very appealing. Looking at it side by side the 3ds version actually has some better colors and lighting for certain scenes. the only downside is the framerate for cutscenes.
It's locked at 20fps for gameplay too, not just the cutscenes
The 3DS port performs better or equaly on the NEW 3DS?
It performs equally. That's because the game was made to run on the old console, so the CPU clock speed is kept low and the L2 cache isn't enabled.
With CFW you can force it to run on a higher clock speed, and it gains some fps.
@@stefanolassandro886 Thats a shame
Initially, the game was supposed to be developed for the then-upcoming PlayStation 3, but due to the long wait for the console, the development was moved back for the PlayStation 2 instead
They really brought out Big Boss’ blue eyes
The 3ds one was my CHILDHOOD. I PLAYED IT WHEN I WAS 9
PS3 Pros:
Higher Resolution
Higher Resolution Texture
Higher Framerate
PS3 Cons:
No Normal Mapping (which PS2/all versions besides 3DS except 3DS, lacked)
Original Lighting
Gameplay is the same as PS2/all versions besides 3DS
No Metal Gear Online
3DS Pros:
Normal Mapping
Better Lighting in a lot of areas
Improved Gameplay features inspired by Peace Walker
3DS Cons:
Low resolution
Low res textures
Low framerate
No Metal Gear Online
What gets me is the addition of normal maps and specular highlights that were not added to HD editions. Alot of additional work for a portable port that would not sell as well as the home console HD versions, but maybe Nintendo payed Konami off as to show off the 3DS's latent capabilities? 3DS's lower texture res is pretty god awful though.
Holy shit crouch walking. This better make it to Metal Gear Solid Delta.
lighting on the cutscenes is way better on 3ds
The 3DS version is better to me because you can walk while crouching and the 3D effect , IT looks great with the 3D effect activated.
The 3D effect is disabled after-
*_*STORY SPOILERS!*_*
Snake loses one of his eyes, which makes it impossible to simulate 3D without a second eye.
A nice detail to mention.
@@M0rinkashi Nice detail right there
Why isn't the Video 60 FPS considering that the PS3 and XBOX 360 Versions ran in that Frame-Rate?
ON THE 3DS VERSION YOU COULD CROUCH...
that was kind of a thing they could have added in the remake tbh.
1:30 best Scene end 🤷♀😭
1:38 you can clearly see that as amazing as it seems the 3DS version has better textures, that's because even though the PS3 version is in HD, it's still using the assets of the PS2 version, the 3DS version had better textures, At 2:38 this is also more evident.
The 3DS version is impressive considering the hardware, they tried to put the entire PS2 game on the 3DS without any downgrades (and even better textures, in my opinion the 3DS version has even better textures than the PS Vita version) but as a consequence the game suffers a lot in frame-rate.
If this game had come out later when they learned to optimize for 3DS it could have run better, Dragon Quest 8 for example is also a PS2 game (and a semi-open world by the way) and runs great on 3DS, but for this made a lot of optimization and even reduction of the geometry of the models.
@@MoonSarito Doesnt it run really well on the New 3DS line of models? As they have new processors.
@@vasilijemx The game has not been optimized to use the extra hardware of the New 3DS, so it will run exactly like the normal 3DS.
@@MoonSarito If you use homebrew you can force the game to run at the clock speed of the New 3DS.
The characters look more detailed in the 3DS version than the PS3 version like Snake for example
awesome side by side 👏
For a portable the 3ds graphics hold up very well I'm impress
For those who say that it doesn't look like that in the 3ds, it's obvious that it doesn't, it looks better on the new 3ds but obviously he is using citra, anyway this is a matter of resolution and fps.
Ps3 to 3ds: "You're pretty good!"
If you could get 60fps at 1080p the 3ds would destroy any other console in competition with mgs3
I love how you can sneak / crouch on 3DS
I like how you can crouch walk and use the peace walker shooting controls in 3ds version
So for the most part it looks like they remade mgs3 on the peace walker engine... Oh boy, I loved peace walker but that engine was horrible to play, played the port to HD and psp and I can say that was meant to stay on a portable system... actually shoulda left on home consoles just to maintain a consistent experience.
Any MGS title has so much content and detail to them that I can't even fathom how they got it on a hand held let alone considered the possibility.
Thank you but no thank you, I'll stick to my ps2 copy of mgs3. I would be happy if they made a switch port though.
I play it on my Vita and it runs amazingly, there's even MGS 2 as bonus to make it even better
So maybe it runs a little like peace Walker, but what they did was add assets from Peace Walker and Tacked it onto MGS3. You can now crouch walk, you do not automatically go into first person with sniper rifles, you can walk around with them, custom camouflage, 3D effects, all while keeping it like MGS3, visually and gameplay wise I think it’s a master version of what MGS3 or hell any of them could be Before MGS4
Only thing I like in 3ds is the camo photo mode, but I prefer playing in the ps vita and it's beautiful screen
So basically mgs3 on 3ds is just peace walker with mgs3 campaign
The first time I actually played minor gear solid was on 3DS
I could've sworn the 3ds version looked better... Since I've played it on more than one occasion.
For my is 3DS better for the controlls. And that fact that you have this cinematic master pice in a pocket.
They both look great. I play this game on a vizio 55 inch 1080p 4k TV.😊
1080p 4K tv? What?
Despite the framerate, 3ds looks better
F*k i love mgs 3
The face model in 3ds looks like mgs5
What is the point to emulate in high def if 3ds runs mgs3 in 240p anyway, this is not a good comparison
3ds version on emulation looks better than OG
this game is a top tier in his Prime
MGS3D should realy come out on other platforms
Kind of unfair that handheld version is compared to HD remaster
Question. In the collection is it modern controlls bc ik that the ps2 version aiming and shooting werent comfortable for people who are used to modern controls somewhat like the 3ds version
the 3ds version is pretty great, but the framerate is really terrible...
PS3 version has finer details. 3DS did a better job with the colors.
It's a good version. Sad that it is stuck on the 3DS with it's blurry visuals, tiny screen and all.
Its remarkable how sometimes you could get a better result with less resources, this version showcases talent over specs.
This video is a false representation of what it was like in the 3DS. If the resolution of the 3DS and PS3 were left relative to each other then the 3DS would look more pixelated. I doubt it ran at 60fps too.
@@smash461986 Without overclock it runs at about 30/35 fps, but it can go down from 30 to 20 during cutscenes. In some very expensive cutscenes it goes down to 14. With overclock, it can hold about 20 to 40 fps.
@@stefanolassandro886 what? That's not true, it's capped at 20. Of course, if you mod it then yeah you can uncap the frame rate, or cap it at 30.
Pero lo estamos viendo en plano.......verlo en 3d es impresionante y con todo los comandos en la pantalla táctil!!!!
You should've compared the original PS2 version with the 3DS
Melhor game de todos!
It was when Konami being konami , not f#@k Konami.
PSP had the same or a bit better graphics than Nintendo 3DS but actually the cutscene and gameplay is really great I love the graphics of it. Most Nintendo 3DS games have pixel graphics but this was something different
I LOVE the Peacewalker camera and controls they put into the 3D version and when I played the Vita/PS3 version after and beat the game again I loved it in that to while missing some of those changes yet liking some older choices. Both are fantastic versions. Play either in my opinion and when you want to beat the game again fresh try the other if you don’t mind handheld gaming.
I beat MGS2 on Vita as well and oddly enough that games visuals because of the art style and not trying to make a sense forest looked smoother than either of these but the art style of 3 and story fit so well together. I love each MGS for different reasons and they feel different as they are. MGSV I 100% because it had the sheer amount of choice in approach and was fun but had the least well built narrative.
MGS4 was great and as a finale story hit hard but had TOO MANY cutscenes that could’ve hit the same strides with less bloat. MGS1 is just sheer fun and insane for its time and even now well built just a tad outdated gunplay. All of them were between 8-10 for me. Yes even MGSV with its flawed narrative and Konami fucking shit up for Kojima.
Im considering getting this on ps3 or ps vita let me know which i should get it on
Ps3 if you want 60 Fps, Vita if you want portable capability
3DS have better mechanics & character models. Hope this gets modded in the MGS Master Collection. ❤
3ds so much details
Uma pena que apesar de impressionar a primeira vista, o port do 3ds sobreu muito com cortes d econteúdo e com o framerate baixíssimo (a luta contra the fury é infernalmente lenta) e caindo constantemente. As camuflagens feitas com a camera dificilmente ficam boas e o 3d e oshis não compensam as perdas. Infelizmente é a pior versão do clássico.
Gráficos incríveis no 3ds
@@ronnysilva1237 o grafico é legal porque é o gráfico do PS2 mas ele perde muito em performance em vários momentos. se comparar com RE revelations é uma diferença absurda. Até hoje é o jogo mais impressionante do 3ds pra mim
@@jottalovegames vai entender, e pior que o RE revelations tem gráficos bem mais pesados do que MGS3 né
@@ronnysilva1237 mas o Revelations foi feito com o 3DS como base, já o MGS3 é um Port de um jogo que tem o PlayStation 2 como base, uma arquitetura de hardware totalmente diferente.
@@RodrigoAraujoNunes o problema nem foi esse é sim à falta de poder do console mesmo , o vita por exemplo recebeu o hd colection mesma versão do ps3 e roda normalmente sem problemas
The 3DS looks better in a lot of ways. It just shows that Konami couldve done so much more with MGS3 HD. 3DS is a low res system whilst the PS3 can handle up to 1080i. Its wrong for the 3DS version to look better than the PS3.
3 ds me gustó ya que fue portátil y en mis tiempos libres lo jugaba
fps are pretty low on 3DS but it really looks nice
What a thrill
it really didn't look like this on 3ds. even on the tiny screen the resolution was appalling and the frame rate was awful. citra isn't at all representative of the real 3ds.
So is the ladder getting remastered in the remake for 2024? 😂
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Can barely tell the 3DS port has a 20fps cap
It's super obvious in the video and feels horrible to play