That Vegan Couple is bad for veganism, not Saara. (Re: SAARA I AM NO LONGER VEGAN - Response)
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- Опубликовано: 21 окт 2016
- Inquiring minds want to know...Saara, exactly how many times a day were you pooping?
0:35 - Was Saara lying?
4:14 - Veganism cures all! (or maybe not)
5:03 - Is Saara dangerous for veganism?
8:09 - Don't listen to your doctor. Listen to random youtubers instead! (or maybe not)
9:35 - Veganism and mortality
10:38 - All animal products are the same?
11:56 - "Exactly how many times a day were you pooping?
12:47 - That Vegan Couple's dietary advice for Saara
13:22 - Can we please stop doing this?
14:00 - That Vegan Couple needs to look inward before they criticize Saara for her "dangerous" message.
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The amount of hate this channel gets is unreal. Vegans can't take a little constructive criticism? She didn't say anything fallacious or unfair in this video. In fact I agree with her. There is no one size suits all diet. People have different dietary requirements.
Myra Emily-Neheng No. Vegans are perfect and carbs cure cancer. Seriously 😉
Myra Emily-Neheng the best vegan channel because it's the only one which promotes a non bullshit approach
Marta M. Self righteous much?
did you miss the sarcasm
Also I don't get why people say that she is bad because meat eaters watch her. I mean, do they think that heavily pushing veganism on people are gonna miraculously convert them?
I didn't know that vegan couple commented that to someone suffering from depression. Absolutely despicable
Super gross. they are quite ableist
Clearly, neither of them have ever been depressed. It's kind of like telling someone with depression "just think positively", "other people have it worse", or "just get some exercise and you'll be fine". It's incredibly insulting.
That made me so angry. I feel sorry for anyone who takes their words seriously.
Clearly taken out of context.
NOTHING is more despicable than what meat eaters do to animals
It is really dangerous to tell people they don't need their medications, especially when you're not a doctor. This is just ridiculous of TVC. That is my biggest issue with veganism in general, that people actually believe this stuff. But, of course, even speaking about it in the vegan community gives you severe backlash in the community.
***** what about those of us who haven't healed medical conditions?
***** I have a condition that can kill you if you go off your meds, yet plenty of people come to my channel to call me names and say I love to complain about having a disease rather than heal it because I don't advocate listening to randoms on the internet with no medical degrees.
I also know people with psoriasis who haven't been cured by diet change. So if we're going by anecdotal evidence, how is that the case?
+Jon Maddison (PsoriasisBuddy) I'm suffering from psoriasis too and even if I'm plant-based, I'm still having it ...
Ana There are some very expensive lamps that you can use. I have never tried ( my condition is different). look for 311 nm uv lamps. as far I know some people have great results. but be careful it's still a product in test
And the last
I know this may sound crazy,but I prefer taking medical,nutritional,or mental health advice from a licensed professional with years of higher education than some random vegan couple on RUclips.Crazy I know
My nearest plant-based doctor is 2 hours away from me.Thats totally accessible to most.
really? i looked up plant-based doctors on vegdoc.com and found a ton in my area but maybe i'm just lucky. even if i didn't find them, dr. greger's channel on youtube is pretty amazing. unfortunately if you have specific health issues it'll probably be hard to get him to answer any questions since he has a huge following lol
+stephanie santos it's good you have that kind of variety I guess,but I don't.Im guessing you live in somewhat of a larger city,but I don't know.The closest big city to me is around an hour away,but the closest plant based doctors were in another city two hours away.
***** new jersey small town, all the docs are about 20 minutes away. look up vegdocs tho, you never know. i would have never thought i had vegan doctors anywhere near me.
Debbie Daniels 2 hours away is accessible ? on a rocket ship maybe ...
Depression is a chemical imbalance. I was depressed for a couple of years and at one point I became vegan and I was still depressed. Up until last year when I went to a doctor and took pills for a couple of months. Now I'm depression free and still a vegan, but that has nothing to do with my diet...
For the Love of Pants Try binaural beats they are cool
For the Love of Pants Every case is different. My depression was caused by the imbalances that were created by animal and processed foods. My body could not cope with the amount of shit that's present in those food items. Whole food plant based diet was the answer to my depression. It reduced my PCOS symptoms too.
+Esme Athena Depression is never caused by animal products.
fernanda alcantara How do animal products lower sertraline and dopamine in the brain?
Mi Hou they don't
I think I found a unicorn. A vegan who is not condescending.
I think there are loads on non condescending vegans but they usually don't make a RUclips channel about it (unlike all of the condescending ones).
Lots of non condescending vegans she is just defending them by pointing out the bad apples
The unnatural plant based is not a true ethical vegan
Nope I'm like that too haha
And who actually uses SCIENCE to show her points. NOT just appealing to emotions.
If Saara reads this:
I started having problems with my colon after going vegan two years ago. After finding out I react bad to fiber, which also developed into ulcerative colitis/procitis (Irritable Bowel Disease), I went to a clinical nutritionist. She told me to eat veeeery differently from what a lot of these RUclipsrs say. I also got my eyesight damaged prior to my colon problems, probably due to the lack of thiamine. After following my nutritionist's advice, my symptoms reversed greatly, but I still have little bit of damage to my eyesight (currently at 90-95%). Here is what my nutritionist told me:
Eat more soluble fiber (cooked oats, white rice, white bread, husk, etc) and cook your food (stews & soups). Cooking the food, softens the fiber and don't aggravate the already irritable area in your colon. Don't eliminate oil, but keep it low (1-2 tablespoons a day) and use healthy alternatives (plant-based: olive, canola, etc, but not tropical oils: coconut, etc ). Stay away from added preservations ending with -ol. Last, but not least, take a multi vitamin.
She told me also to experiment and I've found out that also cutting out/reducing alcohol, coffee, bread, and not using hot spices (cayenne pepper, chili, etc) REALLY helped!!
Animal products don't contain fiber so I totally get why you go back to eating animals, that was my first instinct also. I'm still vegan though, but if you're going to eat meat, make sure it's lean cuts. You want to minimize the saturated fat and keep fat in general low.
My advice after getting sick twice: don't listen to RUclipsrs!!! Go to an expert, meaning someone who has an education on nutrition ^_-
Best of luck to you!!
Thank you
great advance, though drop the canola oil and add back in the coconut oil (not really a real problem either way if you're keeping your oil consumption as low as the recommendation provided).
@@edgyguy5553 Part of the lesson of this RUclips video was not listening to random internet people over other more reliable sources 😂 while I will agree that canola oil isn't great, if they said to avoid tropical sourced oils, there are plenty others they can eat that still follow their doctors advice and are relatively healthy. For example, olive, grapeseed, almond, avocado, etc.
I was vegetarian for four years, back in the eighties. Three years in, i got mild IBS which got worse over the year. Back then vegetarianism was as well researched so they pulled me off that. I’ve lived as you do, now, but when back to limited meats and fish to add protein. Three to four meals a week, are supplements ted with mead.
But I’d wished I had your guide, then!
Jacqueline Underwood ops. That should have read that vegetarian diets were NOT as well researched. Sorry
about a year ago I was diagnosed with borderline personality disorder and that was about three months after going vegan. I heard a lot of people say that going vegan helps with mental illnesses but it didn't work for me I still till this day take a shit ton of Medications. I hate it that people like freelee, that vegan couple and more are saying veganism cures depression, they are giving people false hopes!!!
Monica Maher you really believed that veganism can cure your bpd? I'm not blaming you at all, but you heard that from fundamentalist vegans like these stupid guys? how can people play with hopes??? 😔 that's really awful... but besides that as a student, look out for a therapist who doesnt base their therapy on diagnosis (medical model) sometimes we put ourselves a label. Don't forget that personality disorders are a social construct. 😘 you go girl!!
Monica Maher i've been dealing with BPD for 15 years and i'm a psychotherapist (ironic, isn't it?), i agree that a vegan diet won't solve the problem. a clean diet,however,can do a lot, expecially if you avoid alcohol, coffee,excessive amount of sugar,etc...all the foods that can have small negative impact on regular people,could have huge impact on those with bpd! meditation and phisical activity help a lot,too
Fuse Kane interesting. Why sugar? Strange.
I have ADHD (diagnosed) and I noticed really big improvement in concentration a/when I started exercising B/when I eat low fat diet. When I eat high fat high sugary meal, I have immediately brain fog so bad I can't even think properly.
Diet has strange effect on us for sure...
it did cure most of my anxiety and depression but it didn't fully knock it out because part of becoming well is changing your mental thoughts and food can't change that by it self , but I do believe food can be medicine , I used to throw up every time I went to go # 2 and since becoming vegan I don't, and it was really really awful ,I'd get a stabbing back pain and heartburn for days and all of that shit went away , but the left over bad thoughts are also due to being in recovery from drugs as well tho so of course food alone can't fix everything and being fully raw is fully unnecessary.
Morfeus sugar act on dopamine level,it can boost your mood in the moment but,when the its effects start to decrease,the mood tends to go down. that's why excessive sugar intake can lead to sugar craving. that mood "up and down" it's not good if a person tends to have mood swings by himself,like in bpd
Yes, and also relevant to mental health. There seems to be a lot of unqualified and/or unsubstantiated mental health advice on RUclips. Telling people cavalierly to stop taking medication is dangerous advice.
Bro, you've obviously stopped taking the medication and escaped from a secure unit. Please turn yourself in to the authorities before the evil clown man gets you.
its not just youtube, popular culture is fascinated with "lifestyle coaches" or whatever you want to call them. feels like the dark ages coming back sometimes, it might be the information age, but a lot of the information is misinformation.
""Feels like the dark ages is coming back sometimes""
You're right on that one! There are even people out there that believe we live on a flat plateau under some sort of glass dome o_O
jean19721997 exactly so why are we picking on other vegans when we could be picking on people who believe the world is flat...
Heyitsme
Because their thing isn't food related and veganism very much is. Why would we wanna pick on anyone? Constructive criticism is not the same as picking on someone else. Within the vegan movement we should be critical, of course within reason, constructive and use compassion as a guideline while criticising. Otherwise the whole vegan movement will be tossed together with the flat-earthers in the same looney category.
The title may seem rather pugnacious, but just have a look at their tumblr. It's full to the brim with pseudoscience. I've included several examples in the description.
Unnatural Vegan
They don't believe in putting on sunscreen, that's all I needed to hear to know they don't care about science. I asked them about it on one of their videos and they replied with "Oh we don't get burnt much lol".
AgeJ94 lol I'm black as night and I still wear SPF30 in the summer
Loos Kurt
Yep.
My black behind actually got a pretty bad sunburn once so I always use sunscreen now. Never had an issue since.
That tumblr post was shocking indeed.
Unnatural Vegan
Hi Unnatural Vegan,
I'm asking you this question because you seem to be a pretty open minded vegan.
What if being a vegan was more inclusive and less of a all or nothing way of life???
eg.
A person who;
1)doesn't eat meat or fish is a Silver Vegan / 1st Degree Vegan
2)doesn't eat meat, fish, dairy and eggs is a Gold Vegan/ 2nd Degree Vegan
3)doesn't eat meat, fish, dairy and eggs + plus doesn't wear or support anything else that supports animal cruelty is a Platinum Vegan/ 3rd Degree Vegan
This could let more people in and allow them to better themselves without feeling like they aren't making a difference.
Vegetarian 👫and Vegan working together to change the world🌏
p.s. I have only been a vegan for seven days, but in the two months that I have been researching and watching RUclips it seems like we can do more together then apart✌️️
It's just so frustrating because those who "fail" on a vegan diet know what is best for them and their body and the Vegan Couple and others just don't seem to grasp that people are trying and making good efforts.
Well, if they really knew what is best for their body they wouldn't fail in the first place cause they wouldn't ignore the signals of their body. But then again, this isn't only a vegan issue but one of eating too much bs or not enough healthy stuff and just ignoring your health.
I'm vegan, and had a long, long history of stomach issues, but in the main they cleared up after 1 month of having no animal products. But in my boyfriend's case, his stomach is getting slightly worse since going vegan. People are different.
blueboyryan me too.😩 I get mad bc I'm like what the hell am i doing wrong? But it's getting better! The more you read and educate yourself the easier it gets. tell him to listen to his body!
it could be his blood type! some types do better with meat than plants and vice versa
It has nothing to do with blood type and more with diet. Anyone can be vegan regardless of their blood type, however not anyone can handle large amounts of fiber and carbs so they have to create a vegan diet based on their digestive needs
Same here. I had bad acid reflux before going vegan. I had to take extra strength acid reducers every day, and even then, I'd still sometimes get acid reflux. When I was vegan for a month, I decided to try not taking the medication anymore, because I heard that going vegan gets rid of acid reflux, and I don't have to take it anymore. (I still take it on days when I go to the gym, because the constant changing of positions while working out makes the acid splash up into my esophagus).
My tummy was going too, but I did everything I could find on NutritionFacts to promote a healthy gut bacteria, and made sure I understood prebiotics and vegan sources of probiotics and gave them /time/. I included kimchi into my dinners, a tiny amount, like two or three pieces of the fermented cabbage, every night for about 3 weeks during my WFPB vegan transition. My stools firmed up, my tummy went from painful and gassy to much better, and waaay better than before veganism. I'm 5'2", low activity level, 1600 calorie intake, and I derive about 50 grams of fiber (prebiotic) from whole foods daily. It can take time for the prebiotics to not freak out our stomachs, because the bacteria that consumes this fiber in the last parts of digestion have been starved for so long (check out NutritionFacts for a much better explanation, lol, my word choice is so simple-minded and unscientific-sounding).
And yes, the blood-type diets have been debunked.
Videos by The Vegan Couple are really hard to watch. Actually, just looking at them is hard.
SoMuchWatermelon lol the cringe is real in their videos
They should change their name to "That Cringy Vegan Couple"
Sayuas Or call themselves That Vegan Couple of Lying, Scamming Bullshit Artists
speaking of cringe that's what I'm doing during every single ending TO ALL UV videos....
you just describe my feeling i don't really know what i causes
The shitting thing reminds me of Freelee telling people they should be pissing like 12 times a day. Once I realized to just go with my instinct and drink water when I felt like it, I could finally sit through a movie at the theater without my bladder dying and be a normal, functioning person.
yeah haha. I often stop drinking at 7pm so I dont have to get up in the night XD
Pornstache Lol. I also don't buy this hydration myth anymore. I eat plenty of water rich foods anyway. Now only drinking when thirsty. The water tastes heavenly then. Freelee is basically saying to drink when NOT thirsty and eat when NOT hungry. And to pee all day. oi oi
For some people the food they eat is their identity.
vangrails ya and that's when you know you're really missing out on life...
Like you said, if veganism is a lifestyle: fine. But if it's the only personality trait you can offer, you have a problem!
the food is the identity...it creates u...eat live foods only
You are... what you eat?
scruffthemagicdragon yup...he's a peperoni actually.
Imagine your only personality trait is veganism 😂
Unfortunately most vegan youtubers or
The big ones (minus yourself) chose to ignore basic human psychology, freelee for example "you don't have to like me you just have to hear me" .. No one has to hear you, and the less they like you the less they'll be likely to here it. Or if they do chose to hear, it'll be to mock. And they chose to ignore 1000's of years of culture, of the 100's of diets that people are capable of living on perfectly well many not not being vegan (I don't think any of the blue zones are completely vegan though low in animal products) basically, they over simplify everything, and it pushes people away.
Fran Ann the funny thing is though, what people often forget. Freelee is just a thing of our time, her opinion won't impact anything but some people that are really despreate in their attempt to find a solution to their problem. What drove history forward is science and scientific evidence. Freelees stupidity will be gone like the stupidity of many other unimportant figures...
She's really annoying and destructive now though.
Fran Ann how fucking stupid you are
Cornelia Hanimann I think there has always been people like freelee, just not the same platform. I do think that thankfully as people get older they do seem to be more skeptical of these "youtubers" I do know when I was 18 I used to believe all that shizz now I'm 25 nearly it's a whole different story. Those that stick to it generally have found a way to profit from it. *ehem vegan couple*. I wonder how much of an 'activist' they would be if they weren't...
crystalstar927 I'm not sure, is there some kind of official test? If so let me know and I'll get back to you. We can compare scores!
Fran Ann thats a thing though,with the bullshit freelee spreads, with the amount of times she was naked or half naked or even had a nipslip...shouldn't her channel be for peole above 18? just...curious...
I sat through a Kevin Bacon Egg commercial for this. It was three minutes long.
#commitment
adblock plus! google, download it and donate a few dollars to the guys (its actually free). You wont see ads on youtube or other websites!
Pablowall but then youtubers don"t get paid for their videos...
Yeah ): don't get Adblock, don't you wanna support unnatural vegan?
good point :o is there any way i can donate to unnatural vegan and continue using adblock?
(i REALLY hate ads, especially online ads, and i make an effort to boycott any intrusive ones)
pablowall Idk it doesn't look like she has a patron account ): (or patreon? Idk I've never checked any RUclipsrs' out)
Who the fu*k even are these people? I've never watched their videos, but they seem so smug. Reminds me of Fully Raw Kristina. Anecdotes and personal experience ≠ expertise!!!!!!!!!!
Doesnotplaywell withothers
They're coo coo for Cocoa Puffs.
Doesnotplaywell withothers they're freaking creepy
They actually offer their "services" in nutrition to design a meal plan for people to help them go vegan, despite the fact that they have no training or knowledge in nutrition.
Just being vegan qualfies you as a nutritionist, apparently.
Doesnotplaywell withothers they aren't raw ...
Doesnotplaywell withothers ahh your name says it all....
i used to like that vegan couple in the beginning of my vegan journey but now i realised that they don't do any good for the vegan movement and that they mainly plant fears in people's minds (coffee is evil, oil is evil, salt is evil, cooked foods are evil....basically everything except for their recommend diet is going to kill you... 😑) i unsubbed from them many months ago and hope that they won't gain popularity in the future
Angelika T. I just went vegan like 4-5 weeks ago and their videos actually worked for me (I watched the documentaries they suggested etc) but now that I'm sort of getting used to the diet and watching lesser known vegans it's made watching tvc unbearable. They just talk about their lives and make me feel guilty for eating vegan butter.
they don't place fear at all. They're just showing the current study on those particular topics. You can read some of these sources up yourself. You can then make an informed decision of whether you want to consume any of these products. No one is holding you at gun point stopping you from consuming those things despite them being proven by recent peer reviewed studies to be unhealthy. But then again people like you shouldn't be allowed to read up or watch scientific and logical contents anyways. You're only going to take these things personally and make uneducated opinions. They're meant to be read or seen with just one goal in mind, to learn, to have deeper understanding and to educate one's self.
"But then again people like you shouldn't be allowed to read up or watch scientific and logical contents anyways. "
I simply stated my personal opinion on That Vegan Couple's videos. You don't agree with my opinion- alright, we are all allowed to voice our different opinions . But there's no need for being so rude. It doesn't prove your point, it just makes you sound bitter and cynical.
They eat food everyday, what are you talking about? and oil is bad for you, just ask Dr. McGregor. giving people useful info about their health isn't a bad thing, especially since at the end of the day you have the choice to take the advice or not.
Andrea Mariano I would have to agree with angelika. Their videos are only good for new willing pre-vegans. I got sick of those smartasses within a month and immediately unsubbed as well. Compare them to Ryan and Anji for example. All of their facts are proven just like that vegan couple's facts are, except happy healthy vegan doesn't attack people by judging them and acting like they are supreme, when the really aren't, which is exactly what the vegan couple does.
i completely agree with you here but can you do a video about the bias that some doctors have when it comes to telling vegans to revert back to an omni diet. i have personal experience with this. i had perfect test results, felt great, and was fully informed but my doctor told me "you at least need to drink milk for calcium"... instead of maybe talking about all the plant based sources of calcium.
You should make rational vegan tshirts! lol I wanted to get a vegan tshirt and was going to get one from TVC but they seemed a bit too aggressive and cult-like. 😬
*for my taste. I'm VERY non confrontational and plus living in the south I don't want to instigate any arguments with meat eaters.
yes please do this!
alluneedislessthan3 This is a great idea! T-shirts with her content "rational" style would be cool.
"Veggies can be delicious too!"
No seriously someone should make a shirt that says this.
Yeah, I always thought Raw Kristina has to be logging a lot of toilet time.
Jeff K Freelee too thinks it's fine to poop 6 times a day - keeps her skinny! Not everyone has time to shit all day though
Jeff K
That was artfully phrased.
😂😂😂👌🏾
Jeff K 😂😂😂 logging
Sure you do. If you went thru a period of calorie restriction on a raw vegan diet (such as by always juicing instead of eating meals) and got super skinny, then you resume eating regular meals and this time around include a lot more fats in the form of nuts and seeds (like eating a lot of raw vegan desserts). This could totally cause weight gain of 20 pounds. Remember there are many women who gained weight switching to a Raw til 4 or Fully Raw diet. I was one of them.
111gagafan
Your're not very smart. Stuff like avocados and nuts have lots of calories, as well as many other raw foods if you eat them in big volumes
Actually, people with IBD (Crohn's/UC) can go to the bathroom more than 20 times a day. I kinda wonder whether Saara has IBD, because doctors frequently tell IBD patients to limit fiber because it's irritating to the gut.
abigator oh shit. Literally. That's a lot! And I freaked out when I went 5 times one day...
I just commented regarding this - I have UC myself, and when she said that 20 times a day thing (combined with the standard line of "stomach problems", because people would much rather hear that than picture you on the toilet constantly), I definitely thought she might have some chronic intestinal condition - because that for sure happens when people with Crohn's/US are in a flare.
That Vegan Couple's response to Kathleen Lights wasn't *too* terrible, but the part that made me twitch was when they talked about the cost of a vegan diet. Should people beat on Kathleen because she can afford to cut out dairy and meat? No. But should we be aware that some people live in dire poverty, in food deserts, etc.? Yes, of course. I'm glad we have so many channels and resources that help people with affordable vegan meal plans and easy recipes, but not everybody has ready access to those foods or even the internet.
And the idea that veganism can cure all problems, including stomach issues, for everyone needs to stop. I deal with IBS, and there are some vegan staples I can't eat, like avocado (ugh so sad) and chickpeas (whyyyy). And when I mention this, some vegans get very defensive and say, "Well, you just need to keep trying! Eventually, your stomach will *heal* enough for you to eat them!" ...no, that's not how this works. In fact, that could be dangerous for people who have allergies or are intolerant to certain foods. If going vegan makes you feel much better, than I am so happy for you! But it's not a cure-all for everyone and everything.
Your twitching could be a sign of Lysene deficiency, make sure you eat your legumes.
_some people live in dire poverty_
They are either starving or forced to eat vegan, I am pretty sure no one ever said - "I am too poor to give up meat and dairy".
PS Is there anything cheaper than brown rice or potatoes?
Mark, it's not an "either/or" argument. Food insecurity is a real problem here in the US.
Even if brown rice and potatoes are cheap, they do not create a nutritionally complete diet on their own. Furthermore, people in food deserts often don't even have access to those staples. The picture of a "typical urban corner shop" on Wikipedia actually makes me tilt my head, because I've taught in communities where the only food source for 40+ miles was a gas station, and it didn't contain all of those canned beans. It was a few shelves of processed foods, almost none of them vegan, and one or two fridges containing things like milk, eggs, iced tea, and frozen dinners.
I've never heard somebody say, "I am too poor to give up meat and dairy," but I have heard, "I am too poor to give up most of the already limited food I can access and afford."
ETA: Also, please don't forget my point about access to the internet. Many people do not have internet access at home. A 2013 study shows that 84% of US households have a computer, and 73% of households have an internet connection. This matches up to similar numbers provided by PEW. That means roughly 1 out of 4 American households can't access the internet from home, and the internet is a top source of vegan information. This can be abated by having a library with computers, but not every community has such a valuable resource, and/or many people with disabilities or limited funds cannot easily get to their libraries. If we want people to reduce their animal product consumption, then they need access to quality resources so they can maintain a healthy diet and stay on track.
Nae G once again we are moving towards "if you were on desert island" type of argument. Brown rice and potatoes with some added vegetables/fruits make a perfect vegan diet. I am against the notion that veganism is something only rich can afford. The more you move towards poor people the less animal products they consume. Brazilian people aren't very rich that is why rice and beans are so popular there. In poorest African regions it is most likely that the only food you eat in a day will be few sweet potatoes. My point is that money argument is in favor of veganism. For me phrase "can afford to cut out dairy and meat" makes no sense - animal products were always the privilege of the rich not vice-versa.
"If you were on a desert island"? Roughly 2 million poor people live in rural areas that are considered food deserts. You can't really compare the US to countries like Brazil in part because it's a smaller country, in part because they have a different food culture. Again, most of the rural poor are only going to get the food that's around them, and if you live in a food desert, the number of vegan options is going to be severely limited. "Brown rice and potatoes with some added vegetables/fruits make a perfect diet"--yeah, they do, if you have access to brown rice, potatoes, and a variety of vegetables. Not everybody does. It's sad, but true.
I have taught in places where the only food source for miles was a gas station, and the vegan options on its shelves were bags of microwave rice, peanut butter, bread, jelly, some canned veggies and fruit, and Ramen. That's it. And most of my students could not get to the big grocery stores in the next town; they didn't have cars or, if they had one, they barely had the money to run them.These were not people on a "desert island;" these were our rural poor.
You're focusing on what I said about Kathleen in my original post, and sure, I misspoke a little. My point was that she can afford to eat a healthy, BALANCED vegan diet. Many people cannot. They do not have access to those foods. That is something we should be aware of.
I have actually had kinda the same experience as Saara. I ate vegan for a couple of weeks and only got less energy and felt bad. I found out I got many food intolerances. Especially for raw fruits (including tomato and a little bit with avocado) And if you got problems with your intestens then beans are not a great thing to start eating a lot either >.<
I think it's better for me to go slowly into veganism. I personally start with being a vegetarian and am finding out what works for me and what doesn't. Then I will transit into vegan in my own way, so that I probably won't get sick again.
The whole: oh now I go immediatly 100% into vegan without having any idea what to eat, is maybe not the most wise thing to do for people with food allergies/intolerances/intestine problems. (maybe not wise for anyone, if you want to be vegan for longer then 3-6 months)
Elise Nieuwe Good luck in your journey😘🍀
I feel like unnatural vegan's seitan recipe is just like the communitychannel's lamington video, we will never see it lol
I never thought that could have so many crazy vegans in America... I mean... Here in Brazil most of the vegans I met are cool people, and they don't bother others, like that couple on the video do. Seens like there will always have some super fanatic vegans around. And this is sad...
Mrs. Cute Quel not america, australians. America is chill AF✌
TVC are not American.
Valid points made. I've had IBS for 2-3 years and can vouch that going vegan can make symptoms worse if you're not careful what you eat. By eating vegan you will tend to exposure yourself to higher FODMAP foods which can cause digestive distress. I would recommend any IBS sufferers struggling with a vegan diet try a low FODMAP diet (guidance available for free on the NHS in the U.K.) to see if this helps symptoms
Clayton D Yes. Yes. Yes. Speaking from experience.
I don't understand why anybody who is not that person's doctor, would tell someone to stop medication. It's irresponsible and dangerous. It could be misconstrued as medical advice from a non professional and lawsuit worthy on top of potentially hurting someone.
So to preface my comment: I am a sustainability advocate and try to live as close to a zero-waste lifestyle as possible. That said, I also have battled disordered eating for most of my life. As a broke college student, I tried to go vegetarian to further lessen my impact on the planet.. to a disastrous effect on my body. As a normally very slim person, I dropped to a scary weight within less than a month due to my disorder, lack of funds, and general lack of knowledge about proper plant based eating. I had, and still have to, eat animal products again to get necessary calories, protein, etc because I cannot restrict my diet at the weight I’m currently at. Which is frustrating, because I would love to eventually go back to plant based. HOWEVER! The moral of my comment is that if you have a passion for the environment but can’t go plant based for whatever reason, that is NOT the end-all be-all of environmentalism like Freely and That Vegan Couple like to proclaim. It’s all about living within your means and being mindful. I can’t be vegan but I CAN do other things to help the planet, such as local litter pickups, climate marches, minimizing plastic use, and transitioning to zero waste products. Its all about doing what you can and making changes where you are able to. Love your videos💛
i really really wish people would just stick with the ethical argument for being vegan. Veganism is healthy yes but it is not magic. I came to this lifestyle thinking it was magic (because of certain youtubers) and i've since encountered multiple digestive issues (mostly due to my past of disordered eating) and still am.The only thing that's keeping me around through this pain is the animals and because i "woke up" to the fact that being rawtill4 or raw vegan is not going to help me out (quite the opposite really). People still face health issues with veganism and maximum of these digestive issues are caused by bizarre diets advocated by vegan youtubers with absolutely zero scientific knowledge on nutrition. I feel like Saara was definitely fooled by one of these youtubers into thinking 10 banana smoothies would heal your body. I'm pretty sure eating pbj toast or a bowl of cereal for breakfast would not be the cause of 20 dumps. I hope she sees this video and reconsiders but until then we have the vegan cult of youtube to thank for yet another casualty.
I remember commenting on one of That Vegan Couple's videos saying "I don't think there's anything wrong with telling people to eat more greens instead of rice for weightloss" and they responded with (something to the extent of) "No, that's a terrible idea. That will make people undercarbed and go back to eating animals!!!!!!" and I was embarrassed at the time for my comment that I deleted it. Now I know better lol and I was right.
I think it's simple: veganism can be easy, especially with the right
mindset and support, it can be delicious and healthy, but you shouldn't
expect it to be a magical cure for everything.
I have quite a big circle of vegan friends and most don't feel very different (physically) than they did before. Personally, I do have much more energy now but I eat significantly more fruits and vegetables on a daily basis, and I also started taking vitamin D which I should have done much sooner because we don't get a lot of sun here. My energy drops when I eat too much junk food for a while and/or stop exercising.
I have never considered going vegan so seriously as I have been now that I found your channel. Its so good to hear about it from people who dont live in this parallel universe of happiness and health.
Thank you!
Yes! Not a vegan myself however have considered it and making positive changes. I came across the vegan couple when they were bullying Anna saconne after her miscarriage and it completely put me off veganism. Really good to see a vegan standing up against them
Completely off topic, but when are you due? Do you plan on showing your baby in a video one day? How do you feel about RUclips/major social media families showing their young children all the time? Would you mind doing a video on these subjects?
Very interesting questions! I hope she does make a video about it. :)
She won't show her baby, nor tell the gender/name
I guess we'll have to wait for WikiLeaks to reveal the gender...
Jaune John which I think is kinda I dunno like does she think it's for protection or something, talk about not getting personal with fans... talk about sketchy too, no man no baby we sure she really has both and isn't just getting fat?
+HeyItsMe Like any UnnaturalVegan video, we can't be sure of what's true without at least four PubMed studies to back up the claim.
When i went vegan, all the fiber did cause me digestive issues. Mainly constipation, and i can tell you i did not take one single shit in a day! The reason was that i did not eat enough fats, as a vegetarian my fats came from eggs and cheese. So cutting them out, i was left with basically no fats.
After i added suitable amount of fats on all my foods, it solved it. You need fats if you are eating lots of fiber, they act as a lubricant in the the colon so shit can move. New vegans do not know where to get plant based fats. And all the idiots advocating low fat diets, even when plant fats are mostly just super good and have no cholesterol.
Now i know, and make sure that all my foods have suitable amount of fats.
One good thing is ground flaxseeds, you can add them in pasta sauce and it will work as a thickener. Just add them last, as you wont want to heat up fats too much or they will break.
Also, most of these youtubers are going vegan and off vegan for views. As it will cause drama and response videos and all that crap. Most of them have no idea of what proper nutrition is, so it's pretty impossible to switch to vegan diet after not knowing how to eat in the first place. You need to know how to balance your diet, to be interested in nutrition contents and all that at least for the first months. Unless you have a person who can form you a proper diet.
jannu jokunen you couldn't eat nuts ? or add vegan butter to things ? drink water ? I don't think it was being vegan alone , not to mention you don't just go vegan and than not , it's not a diet it's a lifestyle and if your doing it for the animals which is why you should be doing it and made the connection then you couldn't in good conscious ever go back to eating meat and animal products.
Oh shut up Heyitsme, attempting to guilt trip people into eating a diet that needs troubleshooting rather than being helpful or understanding is a hallmark sign of an insufferable vegan.
did they ever say they went back to animal based fats? no they say they now eat flax seeds....
They... are ....still.... vegan...
calm down dudes, they were proving a point that it's just about tweaking you own diet. They were vegetarian and went vegan but had trouble. so they learned to incorporate more fats. that's all they're trying to say
Never clicked a video so fast! Love your logical approach.
I totally relate to feeling great at first and then realizing you've been in denial about the negatives. Not in terms of veganism, but when I was on birth control for really bad cramps for the first few months I was in denial even with myself about the negatives. It wasn't until 6 months later that I started admiring that they made me gain weight, I had nausea, I had migraines, etc etc.
I am super shocked on the dangerous advice that they gave to the person on tumblr... Omg you can't tell anyone to just eat a vegan diet and then you don't need your medication anymore... That's terrible
I haven't watched your videos for a couple of weeks now, but I am so happy I found my way back. You are one of the major reasons why I try to reduce my animal product intake as much as possible, because you are so rational and so good at what you do. I really appreciate that you take so much time explaining why all activism isn't automatically great and awesome. Words mean things and I don't know why so many people haven't grasped that idea yet. So.. yay you!
That vegan couple also said that service dogs are not vegan.
I'm so glad I'm watching you videos again. I stopped after some of the pregnancy videos because I'm like, 20, but I really do enjoy these videos! Are you making or have made a "wrong things I've said last year" video again?
question on biodynamic yogurt. It isn't gown and therefore cant have the crazy rituals applied to it, how can it still be considered biodynamic?
I know this video is from 2016 but I just discovered this channel and omg, I'm so happy!
I can't stand That Vegan Couple. Condescending, creepy, and ineffective.
Telling someone veganism will cure their depression is one of the most dangerous thing I’ve heard in awhile. Incredibly irresponsible and down right malicious.
I had an encounter whit a RUclipsr like this two folks a year ago. I had a horrible experience! He was pretty aggressive on how I should eat , think or even breathe, at one point he called me mediocre for just being the way I am, of course I hated him and everything that has to do with veganism, I thought all vegans were like this dude. I’m now going back to a vegan diet, after reading a few books and just learning what my body needs. It is people like you that make me think not all vegans are jerks and that is not as hard as it looks, thanks so much for being yourself and for being tolerant! Love your channel!
Yes, they are riddiculous. But wait, isn't Saara riddicoulous, too? Come on, making a video about going vegan, calling it off after three weeks (she was vegan like what, two months?) She is not saying she will be vegetarian (=less fiber, still contributing), she's not saying she tried to change her vegan diet.
I know doctors and to-be-doctors and trust me, they have shitload of work, and they are not necesairly nutritionists (which is absolutely crazy of That Vegan Couple to demand that - do they realize how complex and vast field of medicine is? Doctors have limited time, let them focus on their damn fields! Anyway, some of them do know about nutrition - dermatologists, gastrologists etc. but they are not your primary doctors. I don't see That Vegan Couple making degrees one after another.), and if you come to your primary doctor saying 'I felt good, changed diet, I feel bad' it is just common sense to say 'go back to your previous diet!', they won't have time time to hold your hand and analyze Earthlings versus blood test with you while eating low fiber hummus.
If you watch her going vegan video, she says this generic bullshit, I mean, excuse me, three weeks in and you hair grows like crazy? I totally agree with you that soon after change it was probably psychological, but anyway, making this transition 'like that' while having stomach issues? Without doing even a blood test or resarching what micro/macronutrients should be avoided? She fell into fashion trap without preparing (yes, when you have a condition you have to prepare extra) and I don't feel like we have to shield her from 'those crazy vegans', who actually this time weren't that inaccurate and mad in their opinions.
3 weeks isn't 2 months lol, 2 months is a very good amount of time to judge the diet effects and is enough time to see effects. Your hair grows a couple inches a month so yes she'd be able to see faster hair growth in that amount of time. I don't agree however with her quitting because of stomach issues worsening. She probably has IBS or something in which a handful of vegetables are worse than others for stomach issues. There's a whole bunch of issues with her quitting for that reason but yeah she gave it enough time for the basic effects.
hadassahabey. I agree with you. Your comment covers a lot and does it well
Just Do It
Hey, I get your point :) but please notice that she mentioned her fast-growing hair in her first video - about a month after going vegan (as well as her skin- one cycle is not enough to see a pattern, although I'm not saying she didn't have better skin after a month!). It takes quite a sometime for microelements from plants to act on your hair growth. It's better not to advertize veganism like that if we want to avoid more 'Why I'm not longer vegan' videos.
And all they ever do is reference nutrition facts!!!! Goddamit, read other stuff too!!!!
My primary reason for being vegan is the health benefits. The ethical benefits are also very nice but secondary. If there's little or no long term health benefits, then I'm not sure if I'll stay vegan. I dunno how much you watched Dr. Greger's stuff, but there's a huge amount of research about the health benefits of not eating animal products. And if you think that people should listen to experts and doctors, that is what he is. He might make a mistake sometimes but that doesn't mean that most of what he says is untrue or hyperbole.
I really appreciate that you're pro talking about vegan struggles. I myself have been meat free for over 4 years now. The last few weeks I've been struggling and considering eating seafood. I've been having cravings for meat and it just makes me feel bad about myself. Looking for some answers, I found your channel. Watching your videos made me realize that I haven't been eating the proper nutrition and that may be why I've been craving non-vegan foods. I avoid soy, since I have found it makes my acne worse. But I watched your soy video and I plan on reintroducing soy to see if it affects me negatively still. I think having more options for meat subtitutes will help me feel more satisfied with my food, since I'm a foodie and love to cook. I'm so grateful to have found you. Your mindset is so refreshing. I've been learning more about eating the proper macros, and making sure I'm getting enough protein. My passion for being vegan is renewed, and I'm so happy to feel like myself again! We really shouldn't be ashamed when we talk of our struggles being vegan. It's not always easy. But I'm happy I'm standing by my love of animals and my commitment to not hurting them.
Perhaps all the other vegans will have to eventually acknowledge: one specific diet doesn't work for everyone.
"Freelee" fucked up Vegan for all of us.
reading the answers on their tumblr page makes me certain of where not go for advice... those answers were actually terrible. did they also delete the question about anti-depressants?
why did she not ask her doctor to give her advise on how to manage her medical condition on a vegan diet? on a side note vegans not taking non-vegan medicine is stupid.
THANK YOU. I watched them when I first transitioned from vegetarianism to veganism, along with people like Freelee, Nina and Randa, etc. As someone who needs to take medication for depression and hating the stigma behind it, I was convinced that eating enough fruit would magically make me better, I was incredibly afraid of eating fat, I was fearful of medications and supplements -- I was constantly sick, malnourished, incredibly depressed. I'm not usually someone who jumps on these sort of trends, but when you see videos of these passionate people as the main face of veganism it's painfully easy to confuse their misinformation with facts. If I hadn't been vegetarian for so long before I know I would have given up a lot easier and it scares me how many people we're turning away with people like this as the face of veganism.
I stopped watching their videos a while ago. Natasha kept getting angrier at the camera. Nobody owes them an explanation on their life choices. I believe they have removed themselves from reality. They live in a bubble where only what they are saying and how they are living is the only right choice.
That is always something I can just never watch freelee for, she at used to get on even vegetarian youtubers about how unhealthy they must be and always seemed to conclude that people who ate ANY animal product could not possibly be considered healthy, like eating small amounts cheese or milk was like smoking a pack of cigarettes and eating mcdonalds every day
That Vegan Couple: It's all fake news unless it supports our personal beliefs and ideologies.
Have to say its always a pleasure to read through your comments and see all the non-crazy vegans being all reasonable and understanding. Life is not black and white and not everyone can go fully vegan. Every step towards veganism is a positive step in the right direction which should be encrouaged instead of being shamed for not being pure enough. As a non-vegan (I'm semi-vegeterian) the crazy angry vegans who attack with anti science propoganda really put me off. They exaggerate everything to push their agenda and I think they are deluded. But this is where the rational people hang out, which gives me hope, you don't have to be crazy to be vegan :)
no matter how healthy you eat or how clean you eat your mental health will demolish all of that i talk from experience.. having got shingles before because i suffer from chronic stress & low immunity because of bipolar (which runs in the family) its a case of trying to control my moods or i 100% will be sick as a dog or worse in hospital septic because my hormones are bouncing off the walls causing infections etc
TLDR; great video! It's nice to come across an open-minded vegan. :D You have a new subscriber.
This is the first video that I've watched on your channel, and I'm so happy to have found someone like you on here! I was a fan of TVC when they began receiving recognition. They had around 40 000 subscribers when I became a fan, and they were much different back then. Their videos primarily focused on why they became vegan, the various health problems they've overcome because of their new diet, their minimalist life, etc. They're genuinely great people. The volunteer work that they've done in the past is inspiring, and they seem to have good intentions.
That being said... their popularity began to escalate once they started "critiquing" big names on RUclips (granted that you are critiquing them as well... but you're not as hostile). They've essentially become Freelee (ugh). While I want to believe that their heart is in the right place, spreading the vegan message and all, I wouldn't be as annoyed with them if they avoided the extremist route. I've made a lot of people in my life reconsider their meat consumption because of my choice to eliminate it all together. No condemning and/or aggressive judgement was necessary for that to come into effect. All that was needed was simple facts that I know are true, and that was enough. I didn't give out half ass facts because I don't have the qualifications to answer a lot of questions that a doctor and/or RD can.
Their answer to that fan's mental health question really set me off, and that's enough for me to finally unsubscribe from their channel. I already deleted them off Snapchat because I was tired of their lack of variety in their meal planning, plus their stories were just way too long to watch in a day. I'm glad for what I learned from TVC, such as some facts about factory farming and environmental issues. However, now they are equivalent to the close-minded extremists that you find in politics, religion, etc., and we know how effective that is. :) (*heavy sarcasm*)
Thanks for this refreshing perspective. You have a new subscriber!
I had the SAME THING! I started a vegan diet and felt amazing cuz I was so thrilled and excited about all the new recipes and the new experience in general and then after a year I noticed I couldn’t maintain the diet...don’t wanna talk down on veganism at all but this is actually true
Could you make a video about NinaandRanda and their diet promotion excluding ALL fat from their followers diet? They even said in their taste test video with Rawvana that they don't care about calcium! so so dangerous thinking that most of their followers must be young girls :/
Don't worry,, no one would be able to stick to such a boring and depressing diet for long. Most people will start craving fat if they cut it out completely.
wortumherwerfer No no no. Nina and Randa eat very FEW fats. It's almost impossible to eat non fat, so they ARE getting their essential fats, but apparently it helps with their skin, which they clarified in numerous videos. It's not something they ENCOURAGE but just recommend for people with severe acne to try.
I see where you are coming from but I still find it inappropriate to create a "fat phobia" amongst young girls and I highly doubt that they meet their micronutrients, I'm not even sure about their macros. I wouldn't really care, they can eat whatever they want but they DO promote their way of eating and THIS I find irresponsible. It's high time someone spoke publicly about this topic and The Unnatural Vegan seems perfect for it :)
They are creepy as fuck
I was kicked out of a facebook vegan group about a bad judgement. I was visiting family, there was no vegan food, I was hungry, and I ate a chicken nugget when no one was looking. I felt terrible for doing it and wanted to know if anyone else ever had a lapse in judgement - not to comfort myself, really, but to know if anyone ever made exceptions. 20 responses of shame and I was kicked.I prefer your perspective and it's the idea that keeps me "trying". Albeit, failing several times, accepting that trying is better than not. Thanks for being a voice of reason.
Thank you soooo much for being on youtube ! You're making sense, and it helps a lot
They're so judgmental, i'm glad you made this video!
Totally agree!! I used to watch TVC and really liked them at first. As I spent a longer time being vegan I started to become disillusioned. Their continued effort to promote themselves as health experts because they have been vegan for a long time became infuriating. Cant watch any more. Thanks for being a real world vegan who remains rational.
I'm only 8 minutes in but I have to comment really quick. This is one of the best videos related to veganism I have seen so far. (And trust me I have seen a lot!) You are telling the message in the right way. Thank you very much.
I am new to your channel and have been marathoning your videos...do you have any viewpoints on salt use? I notice Greger (and others) doesn't want anybody to eat salt...? Also I couldn't understand the name of the video you mentioned to refer to in which when you critiqued Greger...
Increased risk of death?
I know what they mean, but their choice of words is hilarious. How much higher than a one hundred percent chance of death can you go?
Maybe Saara increased her fiber intake too rapidly. Roberta H. Anding (MS, RD/LD, CSSD, CDE and professor at Baylor College of Medicine with over 30 years of experience in nutritional science) in her course Nutrition Made Clear, said that when a person wants to increase the consumption of fiber, he or she is to do so gradually. For example, if one decides to change from low fiber cereal to one with more fiber, she suggests to star by mixing the two, the first day mix 1/4 (serving) of the high fiber cereal and 3/4 (serving) of the low fiber and increase the ratio of high fiber cereal every few days. In addition Dr. Joel Fuhrman in his book "The End of Diabetes", recommends that when a person wants to increase his or her consumption of beans to do so gradually because they can be hard to digest at first but the body will get used to them.
I very much enjoy your balanced outlook and the way you explore these issues. Subbed! :)
that vegan couple makes me want to flip a table - they are so smug and closeminded.
the best thing for veganism is to just support reduction of animal products and not demand absolute purity
doctors have barely any nutrition training
So do ordinary humans... we still don't know shit other than veggies and fruits are good.
if you have Chrohns, UC, or IBD, the advice given is completely sound. a low fiber diet is very important for remission, control of your disease and frequency of symptoms, and quality of life with your condition. a low fiber vegan diet, possibly with other trigger exclusions, is unlikely to be healthy.
If you do not have any of these, you cannot understand the pain you go through just because of what you chose to eat. It was beyond my threshold of possibility in my mind before I experienced it.
I freaking love you. I always watch vegan youtubers and buy into a lot of the bs and then i come back to your channel for actual science and realize that veganism is not black and white. Thanks for these videos!
your videos been killing it lately. thank you
Wow I just realised how amazing this channel is. I don't know why I didn't subbed earlier in life.
when I get filthy rich, I'm going to pay you to read me bed time stories.
Great video! I'm so glad I found this channel!
your videos are honestly a breath of fresh air lol and that bit about saara saying she thought going vegan would cure all her stomach issues because that's what everyone said it would do goes back to your whole thing with kristina about how going vegan (or fully raw vegan) is supposedly some magic panacea that fixes everything because that's what these big figures in the online vegan community want us to think
I have been watching your videos for a while now and really enjoy the sanity you bring to the discussion. Always filled with great links from rational sources. Thank you! 😀
Vegansism is giving Australians a bad name.
No. It's the other way around. Freelee, That Vegan Couple and Durianrider give veganism a bad name.
Kayissa LI no, crazy vegans give veganism bad name
Kayissa LI
That is what I meant. I was being sarcastic lol.
Morfeus
True.
those people make me cringe so hard
It's the first time I saw any of your videos, and I'm in love with you! You are logical and realistical and not judge-y and you are absolutely amazing!
What's "having a nutritional background" really? A lic? A certification? College? Because I have a some of these and I can tell you... The best experience is personal experience. While I agree with just about everything you said, I can tell you from personal experience that most Dr.'s are shit. Agreed! Vegan diet is NOT a cure all. It didn't work for me. I was raw vegan for three years, and then plant based. I have been so for ten years now, but during the course of this lifestyle I was diagnosed with several debilitating autoimmune diseases of which every specialist offered drugs. My savior was the combination of a whole foods plant based dietary lifestyle and fasting. Which I also believe you spoke about on your channel in the past. The problem is, most people jump into these things without fully educating themselves, and in my opinion I believe their failure is USER ERROR. I was lucky to find a specialist who worked with me and how I wanted to address my medical situation and he now recommends plant based foods to his patients. Dr.'s DO NOT receive enough hours or nutrition education when in school. That's why most just hand over drugs. That's truly not dealing with the root of the problem. Ok I can go on forever but I won't. Lol I believe this is my first comment on your channel, but, for the most part... I thoroughly enjoy your videos.
Honestly I'd love to go vegan but some people need to understand that not everyone can go vegan. Like I was like Born last week so like I'm still growing so my parents shove milk down my throat and I'm really anemic so I need to have a shit ton of iron and I can't get that with most foods because I'm allergic to soy peas nuts etc so I have to rely on fish. It's so annoying that people will practically attack you if you're not vegan it's genuinely not healthy for a lot of people and personally I'd rather like not diE so I think I'll stay pescetarian
you mean, not every kid is allowed from its parent to go vegan but every adult can go vegan. yes, i agree with that.
Ash Quinn X veganism is the original human food, SO GIRL, EVERY HUMAN IN THIS EARTH CAN BE VEGAN
Ash Quinn X I was iron anaemic for 6 years before going vegan. Since changing my diet I haven't had a problem with my iron levels. Knowing about nutrition and what you're eating is the key, not eating animal products
the real question is , is unnatural vegan good for veganism? i dont understand her goal, is she trying to help the vegan message or? i just dont understand her goal
YES. She promotes why dairy "Isn't bad for you" and why almost all vegan professors are sh*t to Unna... Iiiiii don't get Unna's point, either.
I just stumbled across this video and your channel. I'm neither vegan, nor do I intend to try it at any point of my life. People like this vegan couple are my main reason for that. But i am impressed by your argumentation structure and the fact that you are humble with the information you gathered and use! It makes me veganism less unappealing to me 🙂
Thank you, for this. I was vegan, but it made my digestive problems worse. turns out it was a very serious issue with my lower esophagus and upper stomach. It not something veganism can cure. So it's nice to see someone not bashing her for trying to get to the root of her problem.
I subbed to you two years before I even went vegan. after watching TVC for a few days (they showed up in recommended videos) I made the switch. Some people need their approach.
I hear you but doctors get no or very little nutrition education. Dr Gregory amongst other doctors talk about this. :(
i'm not vegan, but your video just popped up on my feed and i just want to tell you, that i absolutely love the way you prepared for this video and the way in which you presented your points! kudos to you!
I can’t believe these two lunatics actually told a person on anti depressants to just follow their diet and they won’t need the meds anymore... I hope this person didn’t listen to them.
Bine E. Chandler Being vegan is not a magical cure for all problems. I'm vegan and struggle with depression, but those are two totally different things. I ain't gonna stop taking my meds😂
Vegan Couple creeps me the hell out!
I've struggled with my health on a vegan diet. I found eating legumes just messed up my digestive system. Cauliflower, onion, mushrooms, apples, most stone fruits, pears are also bad for my digestive system. With an allergy to soy as well just having a balanced vegan diet might not even be possible for me.
Same!
viexon Exactly. I can't exactly be vegan, I'm vegetarian, because I can't digest a lot of stuff. Food won't solve that problem
sometimes cuttingout all animal products can aleviate some food sensitivities but it takes time and is not always the case. It depends. It sucks tho if you cant digest so many foods properly :/
VegAnn Exactly. Many just can't digest the food and getting upset with them for something they aren't in control of is asinine.
I have the same problem
Thank you so much for being such a voice of reason. As someone w/ a serious GI disease that now leaves me fully dependent on IV nutrition & hydration, for years - trying to stave of the eventual need for IVs - I had to survive on a nearly no-fiber diet so while eating low/ no fiber is not typically the healthier choice there ARE situations where it is necessary & can literally mean the difference between staying somewhat healthy & having repeated, life-threatening bowel obstructions (that in turn require hospitalization & at times surgery).
I LOVE that you embrace the message that it's not just all or nothing & that less animal based is still a good thing. It infuriates me how absolutist many vegan "advocates" can be. For me choosing to be vegan would literally mean choosing death - the IV nutrition that has kept me alive for the last 10+yrs has some non-vegan ingredients - and yet I have had some vegans tell me that if I "truly wanted to" I could be fully vegan?! Uh, yeah.
Thank you for your channel, I appreciate your pragmatism and balance. Your message is so important and it is so true that some vegans are playing a dangerous game by giving nutrition advice. Ones regimen is very personal and a "one fits all diet "should not be promoted..my husband and I are equally as healthy... I'm plantbased and his Omni... it comes down to balance.