Cardinal Arinze - His Eminence is an absolute bulwark of Orthodox Catholicism - he is the voice of millions of tradition minded Orthodox Christians. God bless him!
Cardinal Arinze, Cardinal Raymond Burke, Bishop Athanasius Schneider...we need more bishops like these guys -- totally devoted to the faith, but also crystal clear in what they say. It is damn near impossible to misinterpret what they say.
I love this holy man of God. Thank you a thousand times, Your Eminence, for upholding the Truth and the sacredness of our Catholic faith. May God bless you always.
Well put, your Eminence. As a Catholic church organist I feel very responsible for the music I play in the church. I am always advising couples against wedding music which is at variance with the celebration of the Sacrament. I use the analogy that one would not sing a hymn at the bridal waltz during the reception. Sacred music is for sacred occasions and secular music is for secular occasions.
Dance at mass would be like the Old Testament High Priest entering the Holy of Holies on the Day of Atonement and doing a dance. There are plenty of appropriate uses for dance, Mass isn't one.
@MyBetty111 My husband wasn't feeling good this morning so we're going to the Lifeteen mass at 6pm. I told my hubby he's in for an earful. I know he won't like it. I can only IMAGINE what Cardinal Arinze would think of Lifeteen.
I think "A mighty fortress" is the least of the Catholic hymnal's worries. Cracked open a "Gather" book lately? Been forced to listen to an amateur singer squeak out "Eagles wings?"
@coastiecouple We praise God outside of Mass too. I absolutely agree that EVERY thought word and action should praise God, and that if we can dance for his greater glory, we should. But I do not write poetry to praise God, or play my bass to praise Him, or read a spiritual book for praise, or do math, or discuss philosophy, or run cross-country, or dance, IF I am in the Mass. I do all these things outside of Mass; but at Mass, I am doing what is appropriate for that sacrifice.
I want to ask His Emminence about "liturgical photography." It's a great annoyance: At the Holy Sacrifice. At Ordinations. Receiving Holy Communion close-ups. First Holy Communions. It's whenever the Bishop is present; so we'll have a nice "Our Sunday Visitor" front page. Craning over the back of the Bishop's Chair. In front of the altar, behind the altar, in the aisle; It's papparazziism gone amuck.
@MyBetty111 Calling the Mass that the Pope celebrates a "Mess" is downright disrepectful to Christ Whom we adore at the Novus Ordo Mass, just like we adore at the TLM.
@humongerous Its not all about you. Its all about God. The Mass is the sacrifice of Christ at Calvary and Nobody was dancing at Calvary. God is really present and you want to take attention away from His work to dance... So go ahead... dance... in the parish hall, or in the street or with your friends, or in a box with a fox, but not at Mass.
Our Western culture (in the US) is very, very, VERY different from ancient Jewish culture. The Bible also lists rending one's clothing, moaning, and wearing sackcloth to mourn a loss. Yet it would hardly be acceptable at a funeral Mass to publicly behave so. It also doesn't mean that you can't dance for Jesus, for love or for joy for Him while you feel His presence. But rather, it is distracting and improper to publicly dance while the sacrifice of the Mass is being made on the alter.
@Kolbe You better tell Cardnial Mahoney in LA it is wrong so they will stop it at the Masses at the LA Religious ED Congress because aparently 50,000 plus Catholics including Archbishops, Bishops, and Cardinals are wrong and we are not supposed to dance at Mass. Look it up on UTube under LA Religious ED Congress and click on Closing ceramony which was a Mass.
In the earliest days of christianity it were the slaves and our African brothers that were the first christians of Rome. Cardinal Arinze and cardinal Sarah are one of this christians, now living in the XXI- st century. Listen very carefully to what they say.
But God commands us to dance as a form of worship? This is not true!!! "Let them praise His name with DANCING..." Psalm 149:3 "Praise Him with the tambourine and DANCING..." Psalm 150:4 King David (a man after God's own heart) "DANCED before the Lord WITH ALL HIS MIGHT" 2 Sam 6:14 ......... Moses and Samuel were not Catholic, they were judaism .... Catholics had never done dancing during celebrating the Mass for almost 2000 years .... just before the council!!!!
God commands us to dance as a form of worship! Is it True? No!!! "Let them praise His name with DANCING..." Psalm 149:3 "Praise Him with the tambourine and DANCING..." Psalm 150:4 King David (a man after God's own heart) "DANCED before the Lord WITH ALL HIS MIGHT" 2 Sam 6:14 Moses and Samuel were not Catholic, They are Judaism! For almost 2000 years Catholics never celebrate the Mass without dancing up to the council!!!
A regular apology from protestanized Catholic, or the charismatic ones. The meaning of that word is not like what you mean. The New Testament has a liturgy, and the liturgy is within the Church. All what you have done like those interpretation is reducing the sacred liturgy. A grave matter as a grave deeds...
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"The people discussing liturgical dance should spend that time praying the Rosary." BAM!
B A S E D
He would make a excellent pope in the current mess of the church today.
Cardinal Arinze - His Eminence is an absolute bulwark of Orthodox Catholicism - he is the voice of millions of tradition minded Orthodox Christians. God bless him!
Cardinal Arinze is extremely cool.
I don't go to church but I like this priest he is very wise and insightful
How much clearer can he say it? Love you Cardinal!
Cardinal Arinze, Cardinal Raymond Burke, Bishop Athanasius Schneider...we need more bishops like these guys -- totally devoted to the faith, but also crystal clear in what they say. It is damn near impossible to misinterpret what they say.
You are so right! This is what we need. Love them both!
one of the most eloquent traditionalists in our Beloved Church..
and I'm saying that as a liberal Catholic
I love this holy man of God. Thank you a thousand times, Your Eminence, for upholding the Truth and the sacredness of our Catholic faith. May God bless you always.
Cardinal... You're brave and blessed.
wow. May God bless Cardinal Arinze!
Well put, your Eminence. As a Catholic church organist I feel very responsible for the music I play in the church. I am always advising couples against wedding music which is at variance with the celebration of the Sacrament. I use the analogy that one would not sing a hymn at the bridal waltz during the reception. Sacred music is for sacred occasions and secular music is for secular occasions.
very good priest.
Well said, your Eminence!!!
Good job, Cardinal Arinze :]
Dance at mass would be like the Old Testament High Priest entering the Holy of Holies on the Day of Atonement and doing a dance. There are plenty of appropriate uses for dance, Mass isn't one.
Fantastic
@MyBetty111 My husband wasn't feeling good this morning so we're going to the Lifeteen mass at 6pm. I told my hubby he's in for an earful. I know he won't like it. I can only IMAGINE what Cardinal Arinze would think of Lifeteen.
I think "A mighty fortress" is the least of the Catholic hymnal's worries. Cracked open a "Gather" book lately? Been forced to listen to an amateur singer squeak out "Eagles wings?"
Well said.
The psalms are from Asia. He said that some movement is appropriate in Asia.
@coastiecouple We praise God outside of Mass too. I absolutely agree that EVERY thought word and action should praise God, and that if we can dance for his greater glory, we should. But I do not write poetry to praise God, or play my bass to praise Him, or read a spiritual book for praise, or do math, or discuss philosophy, or run cross-country, or dance, IF I am in the Mass. I do all these things outside of Mass; but at Mass, I am doing what is appropriate for that sacrifice.
amen to that!
I want to ask His Emminence about "liturgical photography." It's a great annoyance: At the Holy Sacrifice. At Ordinations. Receiving Holy Communion close-ups. First Holy Communions. It's whenever the Bishop is present; so we'll have a nice "Our Sunday Visitor" front page. Craning over the back of the Bishop's Chair. In front of the altar, behind the altar, in the aisle; It's papparazziism gone amuck.
@MyBetty111 Calling the Mass that the Pope celebrates a "Mess" is downright disrepectful to Christ Whom we adore at the Novus Ordo Mass, just like we adore at the TLM.
Nice, good work +Arinze :D :D
You should read The Lamb's Supper by Dr. Scott Hahn.
@humongerous Its not all about you. Its all about God. The Mass is the sacrifice of Christ at Calvary and Nobody was dancing at Calvary. God is really present and you want to take attention away from His work to dance... So go ahead... dance... in the parish hall, or in the street or with your friends, or in a box with a fox, but not at Mass.
Sharing this on fb. If that's ok? - Blessings - Rene
*it IS sung...forgive the omission.
@choirboy526 You are ignoring the sacredness of culture and the tradition it preserves. What do you say with regard to the Eastern Rites?
But not in the mass.
Thank you for agreeing to disagree! :-)
Our Western culture (in the US) is very, very, VERY different from ancient Jewish culture.
The Bible also lists rending one's clothing, moaning, and wearing sackcloth to mourn a loss. Yet it would hardly be acceptable at a funeral Mass to publicly behave so.
It also doesn't mean that you can't dance for Jesus, for love or for joy for Him while you feel His presence. But rather, it is distracting and improper to publicly dance while the sacrifice of the Mass is being made on the alter.
@kolbe1019 Amen!
@Kolbe You better tell Cardnial Mahoney in LA it is wrong so they will stop it at the Masses at the LA Religious ED Congress because aparently 50,000 plus Catholics including Archbishops, Bishops, and Cardinals are wrong and we are not supposed to dance at Mass. Look it up on UTube under LA Religious ED Congress and click on Closing ceramony which was a Mass.
Pope Benedict XVI said it best: "Truth is not determined by a majority vote." Truth is truth. Popular opinion does not truth make.
In the earliest days of christianity it were the slaves and our African brothers that were the first christians of Rome. Cardinal Arinze and cardinal Sarah are one of this christians, now living in the XXI- st century. Listen very carefully to what they say.
No dance, no secular music, no ugly Protestant Novus Ordo Mess!!!!!!!!
But God commands us to dance as a form of worship? This is not true!!!
"Let them praise His name with DANCING..." Psalm 149:3
"Praise Him with the tambourine and DANCING..."
Psalm 150:4
King David (a man after God's own heart) "DANCED before the Lord WITH ALL HIS MIGHT"
2 Sam 6:14 ......... Moses and Samuel were not Catholic, they were judaism .... Catholics had never done dancing during celebrating the Mass for almost 2000 years .... just before the council!!!!
God commands us to dance as a form of worship! Is it True? No!!!
"Let them praise His name with DANCING..." Psalm 149:3
"Praise Him with the tambourine and DANCING..."
Psalm 150:4
King David (a man after God's own heart) "DANCED before the Lord WITH ALL HIS MIGHT"
2 Sam 6:14
Moses and Samuel were not Catholic, They are Judaism! For almost 2000 years Catholics never celebrate the Mass without dancing up to the council!!!
Where in my comment did I say anything about not liking the words? Did you read that somewhere? How nice of you to assume that I am against scripture.
A regular apology from protestanized Catholic, or the charismatic ones. The meaning of that word is not like what you mean. The New Testament has a liturgy, and the liturgy is within the Church. All what you have done like those interpretation is reducing the sacred liturgy. A grave matter as a grave deeds...
i respect all religions...however what he is saying is what he believes, but it is not in the Bible.
It is an insipid, overused tune lacking in any sort of depth and intellect. And it sung poorly, often.
I thinks this is a very closed vision of culture! I desagree.
Im so glad i dont believe anything this man is saying!!