@@keshimotto8676 Yes, but at the same time, no. If I got into a fight to the death with an Olympic TKD athlete I’d say my odds were WAY higher than fighting an Olympic Judoka, wrestler or boxer. Boxing didn’t really change, Olympic judo kind of killed its ground game but that’s it.
@@johnrambo4018 Judo wasn’t ruined in the same way that TKD was. Olympic Judo is still a viable way to inflict violence on someone if needed. Olympic TKD is not.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 also they ban leg grabs in judo since 2010.Also freestyle wrestling in the beginning had submissions and was called catch wrestling but when it become an olympic sport they ban submissions.
They'll add headgear, for sure. They'll never allow elbows, so 100% muay thai isn't on the table. It's probably gonna be closer to K1 rules, which means kickboxers and muay thai fighters will meet in the middle and the team finals is gonna be Thailand vs Netherlands.
@Tyler Griffith I know and ia have fought boxing without headgears. It was something 8 years ago. But we are talking IFMA muaythai and WAKO kickboxing. They use headgears.
@@Bunndog in IFMA fights it is a common tactic to clinch a much. If you take 4-5 fights in one week, it is a good idea to win first fights via way you don't hurt yourself.
One FC's channel put out a community post yesterday asking fans who they want to see signed and your name came up a lot, maybe second only to stipe miocic. It would be awesome to see you fight again
I think muay thai is bigger and has more worldwide presence, but kickboxing is a sport more likely to enter the olympics. But maybe they use the K1 rules to try to bring them both closer together.
How is muay thai bigger than kickboxing? Kickboxing is a more popular and developed sport. Look at Glory for instance - is there a comparative organization for muay thai?
And probably a more limited clinch too. No elbows would already do that but I don’t think the Olympics would give much room for clinch fighters to do their thing. Casual observers just might not find it interesting.
My biggest takeaway from this video is that I love that youre not letting the age excuse stop you. looks like I'll be competing against you for that Canada spot. :D
In one hand that good for business and image for a sport, but in a other hand Olympics are all about politics and economics, not so much about the sport ironically.
i'm freakn out man! would love to see someone like Giorgio petrosyan fight but the amateur thing now stunts this possibility, and he's getting up there in age.
WAKO and IFMA were the two bodies that were recognized by the IOC and they currently have rules and tournaments in place. Both wear head gear and shin guards and IFMA has elbow pads.
I can't imagine this really happening. Or if it happens, it's gonna end up being like TKD, a point fighting contest. And then there's the whole amateur/pro conflict situation. Some guys who wanted to fight in Karate Combat had to stay away in order to not jeopardize their spot at the Olympics, which is ridiculous. So the olympics and the WKF are actively keeping them from going to full contact fighting. So for the olympics, I expect either to see semi-contact kickboxing/point fighting, or some watered-down MT that doesn't resemble the real thing and without the real top names. Ultimately I don't think olympic aspirations are good for a martial art.
Yeah, tbf I really don't want any combat sport in the Olympics. They dictate how the world trains for it, they value safety a bit too much for combat sports because they want their sports to be practiced by children up to adult hood, something where your mum would gladly watch you compete in without that much fear. That's not fighting....fighting is harsh, scary and unpredictable. Tbf I reaaaaaaaaaalllllly dread the day BJJ gets close to being in the Olympics....the ibjjf is as far as I will go, no more safety changes please....the sport can't take much more!
Only thing I can see is if the Olympics just went "fuck it....we let boxing basically be the pro rules with amateurs...just do that here!". But I doubt that. The mums on TV will start screaming when they see a bright faced 18-20 year old lady suddenly fall into a heep because she ate a flush knee.
I was so excited when I found out about Muay Thai getting in Olympics having a moment of being capable of having much more hopeful life. It's been deserved for such long time
All the more reason to train for Kickboxing and Muay Thai. Even though I think Muay Thai won't be in the Olympics with the whole brutality of elbows, I'm happy with kickboxing enough. I am down for this🤘🤘
You mentioned you might be a little older by that time. Would you and your team consider training one of your up and comers from your gym for the Olympics? I'm positive you guys would do amazing!
I hope the rules of Muay Thai in the Olympics will allow knee and the elbow in this competion. What is surprising is why the Olympics do not allow professional athletes in Muay Thai. Because the sport of bicycle football has professional athletes as well. Looking forward to seeing you at the Olympics whether as a kickboxing or Muay Thai competitor.
would be awesome for sure, but then gabriel wouldn't be able to compete, and that's if pro's were allowed to begin with. in british columbia (the province he's from in canada) pro muay thai is illegal...
If Gabriel actually fought in the Olympics, I would, of course, watch and support him. BUT, with all of the pads and restrictions, does anyone actually find this something they’d really want to watch (other than to support Gabe)? You can find a dozen Sanchai fights or Liam Harrison fights or any one of dozens of great MT fighters on RUclips. Why watch a watered down version of the sport?
I think Kickboxing with K-1 rules will be better because they will have a more variety and anyone can join wether It’s Shoot Boxing,Muay Thai or Sanda so everyone gets a opportunity
I will be really honest, I don't like any martial arts going into the Olympics. It will always water down a combat sport. The Olympics will dictate what the general public will train for and they usually have a soft stance on it and focus on athletics more then anything. They made TKD a very....safer, less combat ready sport and it influenced TKD to the point if you want to train TKD, you will probably be training to win a TKD match, not a fight. Also the Olympics made it so the world forgot how effective grappling can truly be, with banning double legs, leg locks, and reducing ground work to the point Judo was mainly a takedown system. Both these martial arts were a lot more well rounded, but rules for global competition changed how they were fundamentally practiced. Now I know Muay Thai is pretty safe with real muay thai being a tradition for Thailand. As well as the booming popularity of it because of mma.... Kickboxing though....I dunno.... Same with bjj, get the Olympics away from BJJ, dear god. Ibjjf rules is as far as I want to take it.
@@sugoi9680 30. I've been doing Muay Thai for 2 months and loving it. I always knew I was a fighter at heart. I'm looking to fight in December, I'm at least going to become a regional Muay Thai champion. If my body allows me
@@GabrielVargaOfficial IFMA rules, should be the same worldwide. - I just know it from Wako and AIBA. - I think this is a prerequisite for annotation of a sport. muaythai.sport/
@@alloy5526 ah, my mistake. OneFC's kickboxing division certainly is promising. I hope he'll go into that instead of their mediocre (& controversial) MMA scene
Olympic ruined karate and tkd. And even boxing also becoming a point battle. Mark my word mt and kB just going to end up that way in a decade if they put it in Olympics
This is the first year that Karate has been in the Olympics. Point fighting should be blamed on the USA Army, because they are the one's who banned martial arts in Japan and karate wasn't allowed to come back as a sport until 1954 with the point fighting rules in place. The prior sport karate rules were established in 1927 as full contact with pads.
Very cool, I think kickboxing is more likely to be used in the olympics, or maybe a hybrid of rules, either way I hope there are sweeps. I'm not sure the committee would want elbows because of the higher risk of cuts cancelling fights, maybe if they used the elbow pads from amateur muay thai. I'd rather see fighters use elbow pads, knee pads, shin pads and thicker gloves instead of head gear and padded vest.
kickboxing just because i couldn't see elbows happening. if they decide to really gear (chest protector, etc.) you guys up then could be a possibility. i like the clinch idea but i am really anxious about how they go about this. this could also change the gym cultures of new kickboxing gyms that want to train more closely to future kickboxing-olympic rules...
When a sport enters the Olympics, it's always good and bad news at the same time. If the rules implies to wear shin, chest and head protections, what's the point to choose muay thai? Sanda would have been a better choice... However there are discussion about removing helmet in amateur boxing... I also remember that even the name of the sport "muay thai" was also a matter of contention between Thailand and its Southeast Asian neighbors who share some similar tradition of combat art. Was it solved? Let's see how it turns out for muay thai and kickboxing in the coming years!
Head guards are a weird one cos boxing have since removed them due to study that says getting punched in the head more is worse for you but taekwondo hasn’t because a) the electronic scoring relies on them and b) head guards won’t really save you from a kick to noggin the way it would for punches. In mt or kickboxing there’s unlikely to be electronic scoring straight away and you get punched in the head so who knows.
My early prediciton is that if Muay Thai even makes it in, it will be geared up similar to Sanda/Sanshou with Shin guards. Might not even make it with full standard MT rules. Old white guys in suits will think knees and elbows and lots of face cuts will be too barbaric and not sporting enough.
I personally don't like the idea of Combat sports going to the Olympics. Judo, wrestling and Boxing for example get severely watered down. Catch Wrestling, Judo with more ground game emphasis, and Boxing that allowed infighting made em much a joy to watch.
Muay Thai is the most popular, but Kickboxing is definitely most likely imo. Being a Kickboxer myself, I'd love to see it. I wonder if Joseph Valtelini would consider competing....
That would be cool if the 2 of us had that opportunity. We both won our GLORY titles around the same time. Going to the Olympics at the same time as well would be amazing.
i would love to see jeff chan compete as well. he's a really good technical combination fighter with excellent footwork and has a unique, eclectic style. he's constantly researching and testing things that work and don't work.
I think they'll be able to unify the Muay Thai/Kickboxing rules. I'm more worried about what happened to Tae Kwon Do happening to them. Honestly, take TKD out and keep Karate.
I'm still working on getting contracts signed. I think COVID is slowing up promotions. They are focused on other things. But I'm fine waiting another month and only fighting once this year.
As in boxing I think that MT and KB are going to be just for amateurs Originally Olympics were designated just for amateurs athlete so it's not so strange
I am worried because the Olympics would watered down and bans some rules such as clinch fighting, knees and elbow strikes and throws. I don't want to let that happened and i don't want the Olympics to toned down these rules
Clinch, knees and elbows are important in thai kickboxing. The Olympics really need to research more about muay thai and it's historical ancient times, when it all began before it was a national sport.
So when not thinking of either kickboxing or Muay Thai as a sport but only thinking of both as martial art styles, what is the difference between the two?
I want Muay Thai/Full contact Kickboxing to get in the Olympics but I absolutely dont wanna see anyone wearing those dumb looking Tae Kwon Do chest protectors/body armor basically. Headgear is a given, as are shinguards, I hope thats the extent of the protection. With body armor the fighters cant fight how they normally do; blows to the body will not hurt near as bad and it will quickly turn into a hit and run point contest...much like Tae Kwon Do. People need to become more familiar with what Muay thai is. And standard Sparring equipment seems perfectly adequate for protection to me...we use it just fine in Sparring, but its never so bad that it interferes or makes it so the opponent doesnt feel or react to our blows. Gloves(we use 16ounce but Id be cool with any size glove for the Olympics), Shinguards, Mouthpiece, headgear, groin protector, these are good enough, and everyone who trains is used to them already without adding something dumb and which detracts from the contest in every way, like that dumb body armor. Olympic Boxing uses Headgear, mouthpiece, gloves, all its missing are shinguards; so theres already a precedent for this. I wanna see a skilled fight, not some stupid point contest where they basically tap each other to score points and quickly retreat..thats what point karate is..and tae kwon do.... Hopefully they come to understand these things. Techniques that are perfectly effective against someone wearing a t-shirt or no shirt at all, like roundhouses to the body or liver hooks, become practically ineffective(in terms of dealing damage and also wearing down their stamina and pain endurance) when they make the guys wear heavily padded body armor/torso protectors. It also drives away spectators, not just serious fighters. Nobody wears full padded body armor in real life unless you're a bodyguard or someones after your life or your in a combat zone or some shit. Dont base it around appealing to children just because Muay thai has kicks and knee strikes and so on. The Olympic committee has a bad habit of thinking that way, that only pure fisticuffs/punches only is a "real fight" - in the eyes of anyone who trains or knows better, kicks and knees and clinchwork and so on are excellent weapons and they arent so easy to catch like many untrained people think they can do, particularly roundhouses to the leg. Or other targets too. your arm will get blasted away if you try to catch an incoming roundhouse without properly bracing yourself and hooking the leg into the crook of your elbow, or just parrying/downward circular swatting away the kick then retaliating.
It's partly because of television viewing requirements in various countries, but also because of time constraints and the perceived amateur nature of some Olympic events. In a tournament format a lot of bouts would have to happen, so long drawn out bouts could drag down the timeframe. The boxing in the Olympics are only 3 rounds of 3 minutes now (used to be 4 rounds of 2 minutes) with 10-12oz gloves, compared to pros who have 4-12 rounds of 3 minutes in 8-10oz gloves
@@Andyofwasa only on video, but i know that the boxing department of kasetart university in Thailand carries out these full protection bouts. There are also only 3 rounds. The chest protectors protect your upper body so that you don't break a rip or anything. It's Muay thai taken away all the pain and mobility. I wouldn't watch it.
dude.. did not even think about that... ya so it would have to be amateur only for olympics if bc muay thai practitioners wanted to participate. so freakn lame. but i'd still be happy with just kickboxing
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Imagine being a young talented kickboxer who managed to qualify for the Olympics... And your first opponent is Saenchai
Or Gabriel, for that matter. He's not so hyped, but then the guy gets into the ring with a Canadian bulldozer and those shots just keep coming...
@@juliahenriques210 perhaps Gabriel will finally face Saenchai at the finals :)
Saenchai would just "80%" fight him and not got for a KO. No sense smashing someone with that wide of a gap in experience.
Good
Here’s to hoping they don’t ruin it the way TKD was ruined.
Damn near every martial art gets ruined once it gets watered down in the Olympics.
@@keshimotto8676 Yes, but at the same time, no. If I got into a fight to the death with an Olympic TKD athlete I’d say my odds were WAY higher than fighting an Olympic Judoka, wrestler or boxer. Boxing didn’t really change, Olympic judo kind of killed its ground game but that’s it.
and Judo
@@johnrambo4018 Judo wasn’t ruined in the same way that TKD was. Olympic Judo is still a viable way to inflict violence on someone if needed. Olympic TKD is not.
@@echofoxtrotwhiskey1595 also they ban leg grabs in judo since 2010.Also freestyle wrestling in the beginning had submissions and was called catch wrestling but when it become an olympic sport they ban submissions.
If Thailand hosts an Olympics, they’ll definitely host Muay Thai. Maybe foot volleyball too 😂
Foot volleyball is wild. I have no problem juggling a soccer ball over 100 times but they blow my mind.
Sepak takraw intense af
@@snazdogdbfan251 ty that’s what’s it’s call
hahaha foot volleyball. That is called Sepak Takraw.
Our country can't do that atleast 30 years because our government suck.
They'll add headgear, for sure. They'll never allow elbows, so 100% muay thai isn't on the table. It's probably gonna be closer to K1 rules, which means kickboxers and muay thai fighters will meet in the middle and the team finals is gonna be Thailand vs Netherlands.
In IFMA fights have had headgear decades. They don't need to add headgears.
@Tyler Griffith I know and ia have fought boxing without headgears. It was something 8 years ago. But we are talking IFMA muaythai and WAKO kickboxing. They use headgears.
As long there is a good clinch game I’m good.
@@Bunndog in IFMA fights it is a common tactic to clinch a much. If you take 4-5 fights in one week, it is a good idea to win first fights via way you don't hurt yourself.
Add headgear without elbows and knees to the head? Better just call it kickboxing then🤣🤣
One FC's channel put out a community post yesterday asking fans who they want to see signed and your name came up a lot, maybe second only to stipe miocic. It would be awesome to see you fight again
+1
I hope to get something worked out soon and be back to competing at the end of the year.
I think muay thai is bigger and has more worldwide presence, but kickboxing is a sport more likely to enter the olympics. But maybe they use the K1 rules to try to bring them both closer together.
Hopefuly pre Masato Buakaw 1 ruleset
How is muay thai bigger than kickboxing? Kickboxing is a more popular and developed sport. Look at Glory for instance - is there a comparative organization for muay thai?
@@AnteZivkovic idk but there should be
Wako should have a lot of more members then IFMA.
@@AnteZivkovic I did not know. In my country Muay Thai is bigger. For me this is good because I practice kickboxing.
I wish you good luck to be the first kickboxing olympic champion
That would be amazing. 1 more pro title and then an olympic metal. My career would be a success and I would retire very satisfied.
Kickboxing probably has a better chance. I can’t see elbows being allowed in the Olympics.
Unfortunately you’re probably right.
And probably a more limited clinch too. No elbows would already do that but I don’t think the Olympics would give much room for clinch fighters to do their thing. Casual observers just might not find it interesting.
you can get elbow pads which they use in some amateur muay thai fights
If they allow elbows it’ll definitely be with Elbow pads.
The elbows are not a problem. In IFMA rules they have elbow pads and headgears. There is less cuts than in boxing, where they have not headgears.
Having Muay Thai in the Olympics would be amazing!
if they didn't change some common rules then yes
Will never happen
I’m so glad they’re getting the recognition they rightfully deserve but they’re going to water it down
From the bottom of my heart I wish u the best to participate in the Olympics, u deserve it!☺
My biggest takeaway from this video is that I love that youre not letting the age excuse stop you.
looks like I'll be competing against you for that Canada spot. :D
In one hand that good for business and image for a sport, but in a other hand Olympics are all about politics and economics, not so much about the sport ironically.
This is amazing!! So happy for combat sports in general with this.
i'm freakn out man! would love to see someone like Giorgio petrosyan fight but the amateur thing now stunts this possibility, and he's getting up there in age.
WAKO and IFMA were the two bodies that were recognized by the IOC and they currently have rules and tournaments in place. Both wear head gear and shin guards and IFMA has elbow pads.
I can't imagine this really happening. Or if it happens, it's gonna end up being like TKD, a point fighting contest. And then there's the whole amateur/pro conflict situation. Some guys who wanted to fight in Karate Combat had to stay away in order to not jeopardize their spot at the Olympics, which is ridiculous. So the olympics and the WKF are actively keeping them from going to full contact fighting. So for the olympics, I expect either to see semi-contact kickboxing/point fighting, or some watered-down MT that doesn't resemble the real thing and without the real top names. Ultimately I don't think olympic aspirations are good for a martial art.
They could be good for martial arts, if the IOC weren't a bunch of soy filled wimps. At least it gave the world wrestling
Yeah, tbf I really don't want any combat sport in the Olympics. They dictate how the world trains for it, they value safety a bit too much for combat sports because they want their sports to be practiced by children up to adult hood, something where your mum would gladly watch you compete in without that much fear.
That's not fighting....fighting is harsh, scary and unpredictable.
Tbf I reaaaaaaaaaalllllly dread the day BJJ gets close to being in the Olympics....the ibjjf is as far as I will go, no more safety changes please....the sport can't take much more!
Only thing I can see is if the Olympics just went "fuck it....we let boxing basically be the pro rules with amateurs...just do that here!". But I doubt that. The mums on TV will start screaming when they see a bright faced 18-20 year old lady suddenly fall into a heep because she ate a flush knee.
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I was so excited when I found out about Muay Thai getting in Olympics having a moment of being capable of having much more hopeful life.
It's been deserved for such long time
All the more reason to train for Kickboxing and Muay Thai. Even though I think Muay Thai won't be in the Olympics with the whole brutality of elbows, I'm happy with kickboxing enough. I am down for this🤘🤘
You mentioned you might be a little older by that time. Would you and your team consider training one of your up and comers from your gym for the Olympics? I'm positive you guys would do amazing!
I hope the rules of Muay Thai in the Olympics will allow knee and the elbow in this competion. What is surprising is why the Olympics do not allow professional athletes in Muay Thai. Because the sport of bicycle football has professional athletes as well. Looking forward to seeing you at the Olympics whether as a kickboxing or Muay Thai competitor.
Muay Thai has such a rich history. It would be great to see it included.
would be awesome for sure, but then gabriel wouldn't be able to compete, and that's if pro's were allowed to begin with. in british columbia (the province he's from in canada) pro muay thai is illegal...
If Gabriel actually fought in the Olympics, I would, of course, watch and support him. BUT, with all of the pads and restrictions, does anyone actually find this something they’d really want to watch (other than to support Gabe)? You can find a dozen Sanchai fights or Liam Harrison fights or any one of dozens of great MT fighters on RUclips. Why watch a watered down version of the sport?
just for pride. i'd still watch
Gab, I’d love to see a Livestream. Would be amazing to interact with you
I think Kickboxing with K-1 rules will be better because they will have a more variety and anyone can join wether It’s Shoot Boxing,Muay Thai or Sanda so everyone gets a opportunity
In my opinion they should enter muaythai in the next olympics, wearing elbow covers, shinpads and (obv) 10oz gloves. That would be phenomenal
I will be really honest, I don't like any martial arts going into the Olympics.
It will always water down a combat sport. The Olympics will dictate what the general public will train for and they usually have a soft stance on it and focus on athletics more then anything.
They made TKD a very....safer, less combat ready sport and it influenced TKD to the point if you want to train TKD, you will probably be training to win a TKD match, not a fight.
Also the Olympics made it so the world forgot how effective grappling can truly be, with banning double legs, leg locks, and reducing ground work to the point Judo was mainly a takedown system.
Both these martial arts were a lot more well rounded, but rules for global competition changed how they were fundamentally practiced.
Now I know Muay Thai is pretty safe with real muay thai being a tradition for Thailand. As well as the booming popularity of it because of mma....
Kickboxing though....I dunno....
Same with bjj, get the Olympics away from BJJ, dear god. Ibjjf rules is as far as I want to take it.
The world can finally see how dominate it is!
I would like to see kick boxing but you make a very good point about muay thai
I really wish my parents pushed me into martial arts when I was younger 😪
How old are you now?
Same😔 but watch me still make it big 🤪
It’s never too late
@@sugoi9680 30. I've been doing Muay Thai for 2 months and loving it. I always knew I was a fighter at heart. I'm looking to fight in December, I'm at least going to become a regional Muay Thai champion. If my body allows me
@@ntokozomkhwanazi7704 that's the spirt
Really Informative! 🙌🏻
Thank you for the video master
Great work from Wako Kickboxing and IFMA amateur Muay Thai.
Amateur Muay Thai and amateur Kickboxing is always with protective gear!
Depends where you are I think.
I only had 1 amateur fight with shinpads. All the other fights were just gloves.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial IFMA rules, should be the same worldwide. - I just know it from Wako and AIBA. - I think this is a prerequisite for annotation of a sport.
muaythai.sport/
I saw a post from OneFC yesterday looking to sign new talent. You ever considered signing with them?
He definitely needs to fight there
I think Gabriel’s contract with Bellator is still active? I’m not sure though
@@thecheeze9001 it ain’t he made a video about it
@@alloy5526 ah, my mistake. OneFC's kickboxing division certainly is promising. I hope he'll go into that instead of their mediocre (& controversial) MMA scene
I predict something similar to K1 rules. I’ll be really surprised if they allow elbows.
Olympic ruined karate and tkd. And even boxing also becoming a point battle. Mark my word mt and kB just going to end up that way in a decade if they put it in Olympics
I agree with u
This is the first year that Karate has been in the Olympics. Point fighting should be blamed on the USA Army, because they are the one's who banned martial arts in Japan and karate wasn't allowed to come back as a sport until 1954 with the point fighting rules in place. The prior sport karate rules were established in 1927 as full contact with pads.
The best style of kickboxing to be in the olympics is Wushu Sanda!!
Very cool, I think kickboxing is more likely to be used in the olympics, or maybe a hybrid of rules, either way I hope there are sweeps. I'm not sure the committee would want elbows because of the higher risk of cuts cancelling fights, maybe if they used the elbow pads from amateur muay thai. I'd rather see fighters use elbow pads, knee pads, shin pads and thicker gloves instead of head gear and padded vest.
kickboxing just because i couldn't see elbows happening. if they decide to really gear (chest protector, etc.) you guys up then could be a possibility. i like the clinch idea but i am really anxious about how they go about this. this could also change the gym cultures of new kickboxing gyms that want to train more closely to future kickboxing-olympic rules...
True, that would really suck
Ok this is going to end up like Olympic taekwondo believe it or not
Oh hell yeah!
great news!!
Surely if dressage is in the Olympics with the silly horse trotting around then kick boxing should be allowed
When a sport enters the Olympics, it's always good and bad news at the same time.
If the rules implies to wear shin, chest and head protections, what's the point to choose muay thai? Sanda would have been a better choice...
However there are discussion about removing helmet in amateur boxing...
I also remember that even the name of the sport "muay thai" was also a matter of contention between Thailand and its Southeast Asian neighbors who share some similar tradition of combat art.
Was it solved?
Let's see how it turns out for muay thai and kickboxing in the coming years!
I think you missed a combat sport, fencing is in the olympics too.
Thought the same thing
I would love to see Mauy Thai in Olympic. It will be amazing.
It will be until it gets destroyed like tkd which is now a point scoring sport.
@@radhinblitzahmed I don't think so.
I'm team USA all the way. But I see the Dutch dominating kickboxing in the games.
Represent Canada Gabriel, you can do it!
Long live the power of Muay Thai
I wonder why Sanda didn't make it to the Olympics, probably because not many people know about it, the protective gear it's allready there.
Head guards are a weird one cos boxing have since removed them due to study that says getting punched in the head more is worse for you but taekwondo hasn’t because a) the electronic scoring relies on them and b) head guards won’t really save you from a kick to noggin the way it would for punches. In mt or kickboxing there’s unlikely to be electronic scoring straight away and you get punched in the head so who knows.
My early prediciton is that if Muay Thai even makes it in, it will be geared up similar to Sanda/Sanshou with Shin guards. Might not even make it with full standard MT rules. Old white guys in suits will think knees and elbows and lots of face cuts will be too barbaric and not sporting enough.
Amatuer MMA in the Olympics would be awesome.
I personally don't like the idea of Combat sports going to the Olympics. Judo, wrestling and Boxing for example get severely watered down.
Catch Wrestling, Judo with more ground game emphasis, and Boxing that allowed infighting made em much a joy to watch.
it's the culture of each sport that changes and the gyms that endorse the change that are the problem. but i agree
@@quickstep2408 that's a good point I didn't consider. It makes sense being that it you want more folks to your gun, use what attracts the majority.
The age limit
For boxing is 40 years. I would assume for kickboxing it would be the same ?
Question is for kickboxing... Which style would make it in? I think above the waist full contact would be most likely imo
That would be a bummer. I'd hope for old K-1 rules
Muay Thai is the most popular, but Kickboxing is definitely most likely imo. Being a Kickboxer myself, I'd love to see it. I wonder if Joseph Valtelini would consider competing....
That would be cool if the 2 of us had that opportunity.
We both won our GLORY titles around the same time.
Going to the Olympics at the same time as well would be amazing.
@@GabrielVargaOfficial both of you Could comfortably bring home gold 🏅
i would love to see jeff chan compete as well. he's a really good technical combination fighter with excellent footwork and has a unique, eclectic style. he's constantly researching and testing things that work and don't work.
I think they'll be able to unify the Muay Thai/Kickboxing rules. I'm more worried about what happened to Tae Kwon Do happening to them.
Honestly, take TKD out and keep Karate.
That would be amazing. Old school K-1 rules for the win!!!
I hope they don’t remove the traditional wai kru from muay thai and elbows and knees in the Olympics
Any updates on what promotion you chose? I think you wanted to compete in one championship?
I'm still working on getting contracts signed.
I think COVID is slowing up promotions. They are focused on other things.
But I'm fine waiting another month and only fighting once this year.
I do wako kickboxing. Now wako is recognized in olymic and at the fight we just wear head gear, shin pads, and 10 oz gloves
Same! Hopefully WAKO kickboxing gets a bit more attention.
Nice shirt!
Come to Australia bro!
Brisbane 2032 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
Why does kickboxing and muay Thai don't wear head gear when they spar?
I hear headgear is actually bad for the brain. But that could be misinformation, I haven't confirmed.
Boxing-Pros also not allowed... in Soccer also the top stars a not allowed.
I want to see MMA and grappling too 😭
Wrestling and Judo already in the Olympics
I think shin pads and 10 ounce gloves are fine no need for chest protectors 😅
For real, chest protectors would be ridiculous....
@@osio7528 100%
You’ll still have it at 41 and will win☝️
Thanks dude. Hopefully we will see one of the sports be a part of the L.A Olympics.
As in boxing I think that MT and KB are going to be just for amateurs
Originally Olympics were designated just for amateurs athlete so it's not so strange
Shit man they really going to ruin this believe it or not. Imagine In few generations kick boxers and muay Thai guys becoming point sparring shit 😑😑
I hope it turns out like boxing and not taekwondo
@@alexichabot9051 Olympics fucked both karate and tkd. I don't think there will be any different
I am worried because the Olympics would watered down and bans some rules such as clinch fighting, knees and elbow strikes and throws. I don't want to let that happened and i don't want the Olympics to toned down these rules
Clinch, knees and elbows are important in thai kickboxing. The Olympics really need to research more about muay thai and it's historical ancient times, when it all began before it was a national sport.
So when not thinking of either kickboxing or Muay Thai as a sport but only thinking of both as martial art styles, what is the difference between the two?
Kickboxing + Elbows + Knees = Muay thai
Muay thai - Elbows - Knees = Kickboxing.
@@iROChakri kickboxing does have knees depending on the ruleset/promotion
Yesssss🔥🔥🔥
When you say its been recognized what exactly does that mean ? That they are going to be in the Paris Olympics or that it’s just recognized sport
you obviously didn't watch the whole vid...
I really hope they don't nerf Muay Thai like they did karate
1. Oh hell yeah!
2. Screw the Olympic committee
I want Muay Thai/Full contact Kickboxing to get in the Olympics but I absolutely dont wanna see anyone wearing those dumb looking Tae Kwon Do chest protectors/body armor basically.
Headgear is a given, as are shinguards, I hope thats the extent of the protection. With body armor the fighters cant fight how they normally do; blows to the body will not hurt near as bad and it will quickly turn into a hit and run point contest...much like Tae Kwon Do.
People need to become more familiar with what Muay thai is. And standard Sparring equipment seems perfectly adequate for protection to me...we use it just fine in Sparring, but its never so bad that it interferes or makes it so the opponent doesnt feel or react to our blows. Gloves(we use 16ounce but Id be cool with any size glove for the Olympics), Shinguards, Mouthpiece, headgear, groin protector, these are good enough, and everyone who trains is used to them already without adding something dumb and which detracts from the contest in every way, like that dumb body armor.
Olympic Boxing uses Headgear, mouthpiece, gloves, all its missing are shinguards; so theres already a precedent for this. I wanna see a skilled fight, not some stupid point contest where they basically tap each other to score points and quickly retreat..thats what point karate is..and tae kwon do....
Hopefully they come to understand these things. Techniques that are perfectly effective against someone wearing a t-shirt or no shirt at all, like roundhouses to the body or liver hooks, become practically ineffective(in terms of dealing damage and also wearing down their stamina and pain endurance) when they make the guys wear heavily padded body armor/torso protectors. It also drives away spectators, not just serious fighters. Nobody wears full padded body armor in real life unless you're a bodyguard or someones after your life or your in a combat zone or some shit. Dont base it around appealing to children just because Muay thai has kicks and knee strikes and so on. The Olympic committee has a bad habit of thinking that way, that only pure fisticuffs/punches only is a "real fight" - in the eyes of anyone who trains or knows better, kicks and knees and clinchwork and so on are excellent weapons and they arent so easy to catch like many untrained people think they can do, particularly roundhouses to the leg. Or other targets too. your arm will get blasted away if you try to catch an incoming roundhouse without properly bracing yourself and hooking the leg into the crook of your elbow, or just parrying/downward circular swatting away the kick then retaliating.
Olympics destroyed TKD, hope MT or KB never go to the Olympics
When is the next video of fighting with physique
what are the odds kick & thai can merge, so olympics would be kick boxing while professional moves ahead to thai, sort of traditional boxing
Anyway elbows won't be allowed by icc.
In my opinion Kickboxing Full Contact Rules are likely to appear in the Olympics
At the very least, make it international rules (low kick).
That style deserves a bit more attention outside of K1 imo
After that thing with the karate knockout I'm not excited for it at all
Who would you guys nominate for kickboxing for America’s glory? Lmk so I can watch some of their fights
Me
I actually hope they do not add them into the Olympics
it's going to change the whole culture of kickboxing in general, but yeah i feel anxious like you do
This is insane
Probably no elbows, shin pads, no head kicks
I guarantee they’ll allow headkicks, as TKD even does. I don’t mind shin pads or elbow pads I just really hope they don’t use head gear.
@@nicksalvatore5717 if they allow head kicks theyll have headgear for sure, tkd uses headgear
A ridiculous idea. Have you ever seen IFMA fights?
Finally!
First we have to believe that we will live tomorow not 2028
If TKD is an example. You won’t be wearing Muay Thai shorts but leotards.
Why do the Olympics allow only 4 martial arts and on top of that water them down?
Is it because of the audience or something?
It's partly because of television viewing requirements in various countries, but also because of time constraints and the perceived amateur nature of some Olympic events. In a tournament format a lot of bouts would have to happen, so long drawn out bouts could drag down the timeframe. The boxing in the Olympics are only 3 rounds of 3 minutes now (used to be 4 rounds of 2 minutes) with 10-12oz gloves, compared to pros who have 4-12 rounds of 3 minutes in 8-10oz gloves
@@justalurker3489 oh, I see thanks. Still sucks though, it's almost meaningless to watch Olympic martial arts.
@@justalurker3489 that's why you'll never see bjj in the olympic lol. would take too damn long
So I have 8 yrs to train
Varga going for gold?
I bet there will even be chest protectors. The full lego man equipment, better kickboxing.
Have you seen IFMA fights. What is this idea of chest protectors?
@@Andyofwasa only on video, but i know that the boxing department of kasetart university in Thailand carries out these full protection bouts. There are also only 3 rounds. The chest protectors protect your upper body so that you don't break a rip or anything. It's Muay thai taken away all the pain and mobility. I wouldn't watch it.
@@justkurtz9791 in IFMA fights adults have no chest protectors. Thay have abandoned protectors something 15-20 years ago.
Olympics is weird depending on the sport they can have bros like Basketball and Soccer but sports like boxing have to be an amateur
It's all about money
@@osio7528 as the Wu said cash rules everything around me
Could this help our cause of getting pro Muay Thai legal in British Columbia?
If BC won't make The art of eight limbs legal then BC is lame
dude.. did not even think about that... ya so it would have to be amateur only for olympics if bc muay thai practitioners wanted to participate. so freakn lame. but i'd still be happy with just kickboxing
olimpics is super old but their decision making is not that good
Muay thai is probably beter in Olympics
The problem is the cultural baggage that comes with muay. And pros won't be able to compete. Just amateurs like boxers.
I think pros are allowed to compete in boxing now.
Read This about Kickboxing and the Olympics.
Jesse-Jane McParland speaks with people of IOC to made Kickboxing a Olympic Sport.
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The 12-year-old Irish champion at the forefront of kickboxing
By Thomas Giles at the Centara Convention Centre in Bangkok Wednesday, 18 April 2018
Jesse-Jane McParland has ambitions to represent the Republic of Ireland at the Olympic Games ©WAKO
Jesse-Jane McParland is a 12-year-old from Ireland who has become an unlikely star in the kickboxing world after her RUclips videos attracted 500 million views.
Speaking to insidethegames at te SportAccord Summit here, McParland, who has been kickboxing since she was three-years-old and is now a World Association of Kickboxing Organizations (WAKO/WAKOPRO) ambassador, explained how she got into the sport.
Later on in the evening, McParland went on to wow onlookers in a kickboxing demonstration at the Thai Sports Festival, taking place outside the Centara Convention Centre here in the Thai capital.
NOTE: WAKO is the only organization how speaks with the IOC about Kickboxing.
WAKO represent also other organizations as for Taekwondo and Muay Thai.
This is why WAKO choose her as Ambassador to speak with peop[le of IOC.
JJ GOLDEN DRAGON World Champion & Actress
Jesse-Jane McParland is the fighter with the most Champion titles in the World
Nov 2017 Jesse-Jane got now over 300 Champion titles, include 49 World titles)
(April 2017 JJ got now 283 Champion titles unther her belt incl 21 times World Champion and 28 other World titles in M.A. )
October 2016
Jesse-Jane (10) currently holds over 240 martial arts titles and is 14 times World Champion and 12 times European Champion. Other titles include 9 times Double WAKO World Champion, 6 times WKC World Champion, WKC Youngest Female World Champion, 3 times WOMMA World Champion.
And she has just taken part in a Anti Bullying Campaig for UFC.
Jesse-Jane was the youngest ever World Champion in Kickboxing and Karate at age 7
Jesse-Jane McParland was also twice Female Sports Atlete of the Year.
(WAKO is World Association of Kickboxing Organizations)
STYLES BY MARTIAL ARTS EXPERT JESSE-JANE
Extreme Martial Arts
MMA
Kickboxing
Boxing
Weapons
Forms
Musical Forms
Shaolin Kung Fu / Wushu
Kendo
Hapkido
Aikido
Taekwondo
Traditional Karate
JJ is honored as M A Expert with the official title "JJ Golden Dragon" (Gold Dragon is also the highest title as Grandmaster in Shaolin Kung Fu / Wushu