The Switch 2 Might be Just Right
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- Опубликовано: 20 май 2024
- With the current state of the games industry and the increasing costs of AAA games from Xbox and PlayStation, it seems as though Nintendo made the right call years ago focusing on game library and consistent releases over raw power. With rumors swirling that the Switch 2 may be comparable in power to the Xbox Series S, Nintendo might be in the perfect position to have a system that not only leverages their own strengths, but is positioned perfectly to see increased third party support for bigger, more demanding games that have thus far skipped out on the Switch. Some thoughts.
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The older I’ve become, the less I care about graphics and frame rates. I just want a game that is fun and immersive.
lmao this guy
I feel you, but I care to an extent about framerate as I at least want 60fps. And thats about it..
And fanboys will be like “if it’s not 4k 60fps, I’m not buying” or “see how well it did in sales numbers” these people spending their entire life arguing about stupid things and because of all these online chatter the dev are sacrificing gameplay and art direction for visual fidelity 🤦♂️ it’s just the worse and now business ppl in these companies just want to make more profits from live service games to make up the cost of all these visual AAA games that take a long time to make because it’s very expensive
@@WWEmaniac exactly! You just spoke my mind! I’ll take art direction, story, and fun/interesting gameplay over “impressive” graphics. I’d rather play Vagrant Story on the PlayStation 1 over anything new coming out on PS5 or Xbox nowadays.
@@CyberWolf3526 I guess I understand but I hear so many people complain about games on Switch not performing at 60fps but I’ve played those games and they’ve run just fine and I can never see any lag.
Nintendo is just magic. I’ve never played a Mario game and thought ‘Damn these graphics suck’. Same with Zelda (though I can see how better FPS and kore stability less loading etc can be beneficial). No one else does what Nintendo does. Graphics are cool but games should be FUN first and foremost.
because the games still have amazing "graphics" they just don't have the visual fidelity
@@CropDudia480p that’s true. And visual fidelity is just secondary when it comes to games. It’s important with some games maybe but things have gotten so ridiculous in the quest for realism that it’s coming at a high cost (fun).
Lately I would disagree depending on franchise.
@@akg7873 realism and fidelity is almost never as important as the industry makes it out to be imo, but graphics definitely are to a lot of games
While switch games are fun and look fine handheld... Zelda did not look good at all on my TV... As well as most switch games
I am so excited for this console. A more powerful “switch” is a dream come true.
I just want to see smooth gameplay. Not a portable 360 that craps out with a Gunzerker wielding two Dahlminators.
@justinpatterson5291 ehh, idk about it being a portable 360 when it's not only more powerful but it also uses a completely different Architecture.
I thought Nintendo fans were proud of having 2010 technology
After 7+ years I'm assuming that the Switch 2 will be a big step up in graphics power, rightly so, but there definitely is a place in the world for games that focus on art direction, rather than just another realistic Unreal Engine game.
You can definitely focus on art direction with UE, these devs just aren't focused on making games fun anymore since gamers have made it clear for decades that the most vocal part of them only care about image quality
Most of the gaming community don’t even want highly realistic games. The issue is switch games, even with with poor graphics, run at 20-30 fps on a good day.
UE games are the worst!
@@absin8078I agree with this though it doesn't matter that much for most games. It could matter for most of the games you personally play though. Sync and stable fps is good enough. One reason that 60fps+ is such a standard is because when it does drop even 25 percent of the frames it's barely noticeable. That's not true with 30 frames.
Yes
The Switch 's strength is in its library, it's the only console on the market right now that provides a wide variety of games for players of all ages. I think when people buy a Switch as a family console, they don't really care about power, they care about the games but also the prices of the games and of the console itself. Some games have become really expensive these days, and even if they look really amazing, times are rough. Some games are almost 80 euros, that's a lot of money. Making the Switch 2 less powerful than other consoles to keep the prices 'reasonable' can be a good strategy.
The Switch is also a great destination for getting the COMPLETE version of games from last gen; all DLC included.
Where are just cause,merceneraries and skate?
I just wish Nintendo takes a step-back approach with the Switch 2 in terms of its UI. We need themes, main menu music, some damn life and charm into the user experience. Fix the eShop entirely, add in proper P2P social channels. The 3DS did all of it so well, I don't see why the Switch shouldn't.
Right, artistic direction can beat visual fidelity when done right.
Metroid Prime Remastered was gorgeous and all they did was upscale and recolor things. TOTK is gorgeous and I constantly can't believe how much open world is rendered at all times despite the CPU limitations, but it's all design strategy.
Plus, who wants to see a photorealistic Moblin, anyways?
You're talking to yourself.
It's really dumb people to keep wanting to push power on a device meant for families. A high end switch at $500-$600 isn't going to go well for mom trying to buy something for her kids. $300 isn't great for something that can get destroyed by a child but it's at least stomachable for most families. Meanwhile MS/Sony are struggling to make sales because they're pricing out their customers.
Xbox series s is cheaper than the Nintendo switch though
Look I'm just ready for nintendo 10th gen console
ive accepted that im the nintendo fan thatll buy it no matter what
10th gen???? Is the switch even 9th gen???
@@spectacularstarlight8206 nothing wrong with that
@@spectacularstarlight8206 I have been looking to get myself a Switch for ages but if their next one has backwards compatibility I might end up just getting it instead at day one.
@@TimDespairBear11 yes very much so 9th gen and to prove that the Wii U the PS4 and the Xbox One all relatively came out around the same time the switch in the Wii U are very much different consoles it is a jump in Hardware
I think Nintendo simply have to make sure their top titles run at 1080p60 and them use upscale tech to make it look good on 4k tv's.
Also, if they can improve current switch games (TOTK for example) to run at 1080p60 (which is quite the upgrade from 720p30) they'll be good to go.
The 4k Ai upscaling is going to be awesome.
To quote ZZTop "I aint askin' for much"
800p 😂
If anything, Nintendo has proven that they can aim for resolutions and framerates worse than some Wii U games and still be perfectly fine.
The big hang up is porting code on the development end from other SKUs and supporting all tools to import into their SDK.
As long as that continues, hardware is irrelevant for Nintendo’s continued hardware dominance because the games will be there.
Wii U was more than capable, but had bespoke, quirky fixed hardware you needed better talent and time to maximize. Switch projects have been said to have been up and running in a WEEK.
That’s the difference.
@@ShadowFoxInfinite Nintendo like to defy expectations 🤣
Nintendo are in the most unique position now because they. Decided to stick with the "less is more" approach but in this case there somewhere in the middle.
Nintendo nailed the concept with the Switch. Now just refine, refine, refine and refine like the iPhone
The iPhone sucks, overpriced trendy hardware. My $100 TCL phone does almost everything my old iPhone did for 1/10 the cost.
@@yugdesiralno it doesn’t
@@akshayparmar5760 nice rebuttal. So what feature am I dying to buy an iPhone for that is worth 10x the cost?
Honestly, if the next console is powerful enough to run any Zelda games at 60 FPS 1080p
Including BOTW and TOTK.
I would be more than happy.
The more demanding games, I personally can play them on other platforms.
But when I start a Nintendo games, it should always run beautifully and smoothly
That’s probably what we’ll get. Remember when people were saying the “switch pro” was gonna be native 4K 😂😂
I have barely touched TotK cause how it runs on current Switch. Constant 25-30 FPS was such a pain to play. Decided to wait for new Switch hoping there will be backward compability and an update enchancing the game. Hell, I can even pay for this update if I must. It would suck but I really want to play this game finnaly.
@@june_o9 play it on pc
no, it must be able to do that and more, people think as long as the switch 2 can run current switch games smoothly it's good, and doesn't need to be so powerful, I'd say that it needs to be as powerful as it can be, Nintendo isn't done with making video games, the switch 2 will probably live for more than 10 years, and the new games will eventually run like crap, and they will have to make another console, console power is not just about the visuals, just look at breath of the wild and tears of the kingdom, they look almost the same but totk runs much worse because it is a bigger and more complicated game, and if having 3rd party games doesn't matter for you it matters for Nintendo and matters for other people who might not have the money to buy a different console just to play 1 game they are interested in
Agree, with a decent PC it makes no sense to buy a console just for the power, it has provide something a PC cant
I think the industry overall can become more healthy if they start looking at the Switch 2 as their primary platform to develop games, and then make the same game available on other platforms such as Playstation, Xbox and PC.
A proof of this is what happened with Prince of Persia The Lost Crown. During development, the game was most likely targeted towards the Nintendo Switch console. And so they were able to release the game running at 1080p, 60FPS. There's not that many Switch games that can run at 1080p 60FPS. But because the Switch was the target hardware during development, the same game runs on a PS5 or Xbox Series X at 4k 120FPS. How many games can we say that run at 4k 120FPS on a PS5 or Xbox Series X? And they didn't need a PS5 Pro to do that.
So, I think that if the majority of gaming publishers starts making games targeted towards the Switch 2 as their main platform to develop games for, they can make the game run perfectly fine on Switch 2 hardware, run even better on PS5 and Xbox Series X, make the game accessible on more platforms and more consumers, and have better chances to profit. And if publishers profit more, maybe there's gonna be less layoffs and studio closures.
I’m hoping that with all of the shortcomings we’re seeing with current gen games that we’ll start to see a surge in popularity of smaller scale projects. If that’s the case then the Switch 2 will flourish.
Tbh, I’d love to see more ports of PS4 games make their way over if anything. Alien Isolation arguably looks better on the Switch in a lot of ways, and I can’t think of that many ports with that outcome. Imagine that being the norm on the next gen switch.
You'll see a lot of fanboy whinging about how Switch 2 is "holding developers back" if they make it their main platform.
But, at this point, it needs to happen. Things can't continue the way they have been. Developers need to slow down and scale things back a bit if they want to survive.
@@RawPower867 I've seen a ton of people complaining about that last week when Square-Enix announced they would adopt a multiplatform strategy. I think people are overreacting a bit, while I can imagine many developers targeting the Switch's successor as their main platform I think it woud be mostly indie games and some niche projects, perhaps a couple of Japanese developers would be fine with still making games which are closer to PS4/Xbox One graphics, but I'm pretty sure companies like Capcom, Bandai Namco, Square-Enix and SEGA will still aim to develop their games for the high-end consoles. But I do believe some games like Dragon Quest XII and maybe a new Monster Hunter will try to aim for the Switch 2 in mind
@@pablocasas5906Capcom and (possibly) Namco can afford to prioritize high-end systems to the exclusion of Nintendo, but Square-Enix can't. At least not anymore. They are primarily a JRPG company and most of that audience is on Switch now. If memory serves, the Switch versions of S-E games outsold their PS4/5 counterparts by ratios as high as 10:1. That is massive.
I think Capcom will support Switch 2 heavily as well, particularly with Monster Hunter, Resident Evil, Mega Man, and possibly Street Fighter. Namco will continue doing what they've been doing for the past 5 years - that is, making high-end versions of their games and then porting them to Nintendo later.
buddy, the switch isn't a magic box you put games in and suddenly they start running on 4K 120fps on other platforms, if game devs wanted to make a game run like that they can without releasing it on the switch, the thing is that they need to sacrifice visuals, and they don't want to get rid of one of their selling points just for their game to run on 1 more platform in which the game might sell the worst because people might prefer the other platforms for better performance
The Switch is proof-positive that people don't care that much about cutting-edge graphics. What they want are fun games that don't take 5 years to make, aren't priced at $70, and the studio won't get shut down if they don't make back a bajillion dollars.
"aren't priced at 70usd" my good sir have you looked at the prices for their first party titles
but aside from them yeah third party titles are def less pricey
@retros.pection Pretty sure it's only one game that cost 70
@@OkPe-ww5rs i mean rest of the first party games are still 60, idrk how the conversion rates work because aaa games for ps5 are still similarly priced here where they are 70 in the us
@@retros.pection Yeah, 60, not 70
My man has been cold for years
I’m playing MARIO WONDER on a 4K 85-inch and it looks amazing! I’m sure Nintendo Switch 2 will be really great.
I might be wrong but I think the sweet spot of gaming was between 2010 and 2020, the graphics wear good, and wait time wasent too long
If more studios target current handheld hardware maybe that could help the spending and development time. Not to mention you can maybe port those titles to other mobile devices.
This principle was started by Gunpei Yokoi, who was born in 1941 and died in 1997.
Nintendo has always focused on gameplay. All they need to do with the next Switch is make it slightly more powerful, have backwards compatibility, limit the amount of gimmicky weirdness, and they should succeed once again. I think the Shiver acquisition is a great sign that they want to get more big budget titles on the next Switch. I thought OG Switch had a good number of them, but there were still many that bypassed the console completely.
*The switch has plenty of shovelware. Probably more than the Wii.
Not probably, it does. Since most games are digital quality assurance its even lower.
Also Nintendo did focus on traditional games with the Wii. People forget the 2d revival happened on the wii with games like dkc returns, contra and castlevania for example.
The thing is, no one is obliged to play all (or any) of them.
I think one of the more important factors, as Kevin was trying to say, is percentage wise the switch has less shovelware then the Wii due to the amount of third party games on the console.
I think it’s less noticeable because a lot of Wii shovelware would get a physical release, whereas Switch shovelware is generally ports of mobile games dumped on the digital storefront. I remember back in ‘09-‘10 you’d go to a GameStop or big box store and see a relatively small handful of first party Wii games, a couple of Rockband/GH games, and then rows and rows of budget priced shovelware and half-baked licensed games designed to entice price conscious families and adults shopping for gifts.
The same shovelware that's on steam.
If they give us upgrades for the OG Switch games and something in line with the base PS4 in our hands i'm buying it day one.
If it's only as powerful as base ps4 then it's in trouble. It won't get 3rd party support.Think about it, it needs to be at least as powerful as xbox series s.
@@nicklong27weLl that’s the leaks. Docked around Xbox series x maby better. And handled. Like ps4 pro with dlls
@@TheGamingTeam101Tgt101 Yeh I’ve heard them. It needs to be as powerful as a series s docked, even if it needs to use dlls or other tricks to get there. In handheld mode it needs to be somewhere between a base ps4 and a ps4 pro. If it isn’t then it will lose third party support after a year or two and we could have another Wii u on our hands. I pray Nintendo aren’t stupid enough to let that happen.
@@nicklong27 Back when the Switch released it managed to thrive just with a couple of first-party heavy hitters and indie games. I don't see a world where a more powerful Switch can fail.
@nicklong27 people who want demanding 3rd party games alway buying it on other platform. Nintendo platform tend to focus on Nintendo games, multiplatform, exclusive and indies.. with this in mind, i dont think they will in trouble because you still need to buy their hardware to play their games.. minus the emulation.
The Wii is actually one of the better Nintendo home consoles when it comes to 3rd party support. At least compared to the abysmal showings of the N64, GameCube and Wii U. There's quite a few gems like No More Heroes, Epic Mickey, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Monster Hunter, etc.
I agree to a point, I think many developers, especially those who couldn't make the jump to HD development chose the Wii as their main platform and many companies actually made tons of games, which is something that I can't really say about the Switch. I mean, the Switch has probably the best third-party support a main Nintendo console has had since the Wii, but at the same time it feels that most of the offerings from third-party publishers have been mostly late ports from previous genenerations. In some ways I can understand the fact that many developers were caght off-guard by the Switch's success, some other still consider investing on the Switch kind of risky and some other probably lack the resources to downport some of their games or are just probably wating for the Switch successor. I mean, the only major third-party games that were designed with the Switch's hardware in mind that were successful were Bayonetta 3, Monster Hunter: Rise, Shin Megami Tensei V, Momotaro Dentetsu and the majority of Team Asano's titles like Octopath Traveller and Triangle Strategy.
While I'm hopeful that more unique third-party games will be developed for the Swithc's successor, I'm trying to keep my expectations in check, I know many people are claiming that companies like Square-Enix will go all out on the next Switch, but aside from Dragon Quest XII, I don't think we'll see that many games made with the Switch's successor hardware in mind
My PS5 library pales in comparison to the games I have for the Switch. Heck, even my PS3 has more games. And I play those other systems more than my PS5.
That's the sad truth and it's Sony's own stupid fault, all that power and their wasting it.
Sony is giving sh#t excuse that they are selling consoles not getting profit
I think it's funny how we sre assuming the power of the next console when all we have are leaks and rumors. When has Nintendo release the actual specs? I think we need to tone down the hype and wait for Nintendo to announce this console.
Impossible. RUclipsrs are talking about "the next Switch" in the same year the Switch released.
I'm just stating my opinion.
@@nathanjustice4253it’s makes sense though, Nintendos games have never really centered around crazy graphics so I find that the hardware speculations are probably spot on and it’s always good to have an idea of what to expect. Also you clicked on the video so I’m guessing the “hype” got you regardless of what you say
@@alanarriaga6204 I like to listen to different opinions
Because the Nvidia hack a few years ago revealed a lot of information, and we just got more from ACTUAL public shipping manifests between Nintendo, Nvidia and Samsung
Lets be real.
Its going to be called the Super Switch.
Let's be real
My wife is cheating
Playing with power, ON THE GO
No, it's called Switch U
That's the one I'm hoping for definetly.
It will be called the “New Switch Model”
If the power is half of that of the PS5, then with AI upscaling they can beat it. Everyone keeps forgetting this console will use DLSS. You can triple your frame rate with that, so hardware strength isn't nearly as important as it used to be.
one more thing: their power specs is often just right to run third party indie games, giving indie devs an extra market while injecting their style of creativity into the roster of games for the platform
Teraflops is fine to measure the compute power of a certain data type, life say fp32 or fp16.
Just make sure you aren't trying to compare PEAK THEORETICAL Tflops, because no architecture ever gets it's peak theoretical and they all fall short by different amounts.
Ampere vs rdna 1+/2- (switch 2 arch and ps5/series arch) is pretty comparable all things considered historically.
Chips and cheese did a great series of microbenches comparing the architectures. And while ampere comes out on top even against the infinity cache (rdna2 game consoles don't have infinity cache) it's fairly close, especially compared to the historical trend. Rdna2 was a great amd arch.
Of course modern games use more than just fp32, like fp16, which is where amd's 2X packed math(not parallel) and nvidias 8x tensor cores (parallel) come into play.
The new Switch should run almost all the games at the highest quality and provide 60 fps in almost all games without sacrifing the contents in the game or its graphics
Hey guys, can anyone pls tell me the games that were shown between 7:14 and 7:39?
I just want a Zelda game that can maintain a steady framerate.
there are already multiple ones
I hope the switch 2 support 4K, I recently got 100 inch TV and would love to play a Mario platformer on something immersive like that.
If they manage to make switch 2 with cartridge slot at the dock station, it would be awesome
I have a PS5, and Switch. I have over 60 games on the Switch, and 6 on the PS5. If a game comes out on both I usually go for the Switch version if it runs pretty well (~30fps) because I can play it anywhere.
All i want is a handheld with decent power, that can be docked, has personality, has good games and doesn't keep online play behind a paywall... Oh shit, i just described a Steam Deck
I'm gonna wait until Switch 2 comes out and see if the Steamdeck will lower their price. As great Nintendo IPs are, the flexibility of Steam games and the ability to install games using Proton makes it all the more enticing.
What if someone manages to install steamOS on switch 2 tho?
I don’t agree with the Nintendo had a lot of first party titles. They literally ported games from the Wii U. It took them 7 years to release Tears of kingdom. They literally haven’t made a new Mario kart or Smash in over 7 years. They took on a lot of 3rd party titles and that’s where the switch lacks. Ive seen so many people sell their Switch because of this reason alone.
Another big thing about the next Switch is being able to use nvidia features like dlss, dlaa and frame gen.
0:24 pokemon isn't 1st party it is made by Gamefreak also pokemon only got 3 years of development at most were as breath of the wild and tears of the kingdom got around 7 years each and a much higher budget these games are not comparable
I was not a switch fun when I first got it, but have come to like it very much. Now thought of other handhelds like the steam deck, but I will wait for the Switch 2. I like the Switch more because of the light weight, detachable controllers, dock mode and how portable it is.
I don't hear this getting mentioned in these videos but there's also reported leaks of the switch successor being edible
I hope Nintendo uses 3nm so the soc is super energy efficient. This is particularly important as the Switch successor might be limited to a total power draw of 10w when undocked and if the soc can be clocked higher when docked that would be great however it would require a better cooling solution than otherwise.
Nintendo and the indies continue to prove that it's not the graphics that make a game memorable but the gameplay.
Whenever nintendo does well xbox and playstation usually copies something like motion controls. I hope they copy the smaller budget fun games instead of just making a handheld.
I’m your dreams. Unless they miraculously realize that copying nintendos next successful gimmick won’t get them anywhere. Also someone at Sony definitely high when they cooked up the ps portal😂. Literally copying Nintendos biggest flop( we don’t talk about the vb…)
can you do a review of the new nyxi warrior?
7:19 what game is this?
That point about the switch being in the perfect place between gimmicky and functional is excellent tbh, I'd never thought of it that way but it's on point.
It’s been pointed out by people, the big advantage Switch 2 will have over the Series S is that devs have to make Series X games also work on the S, while Switch 2 ports only have to be Switch 2 games. The scalability only has to be on the development end, not the software itself.
I want a night light mode, a handheld that isn't uncomfortable, would love if this was actually like a big DS with a second screen.
They have been way too many advancements with chipsets and RAM for them to do what they did to switch and I'll be so disappointed if it's something similar in terms of being held back power-wise because that just makes things so much harder on developers.
I would also love it if much like the Wii u if we could just perfect stream stuff from the doc or whatever to the handheld so more games that actually be that 1080p 60 and I have to worry about native handheld which isn't super great on Switch for a lot of titles.
Will the Nintendo Switch 2 bring back the: Front and Back Camera, Microphone, and The Internet Browser Icon app, plus Introduce the First Medals(Achievement)(Bronze, Silver, Gold, and Platinum) available with Achievement Colors
It's not winter Beanie man! Did Yoshi lay an egg?? 😂😂😂
Great video. I wanted to give a bit more context to your comparison. There has been shipping leaks of real components for the retail version of the Switch 2, one such leak is that it will use 12GB of LPDDR5X memory, this is above expectations, and becomes an even bigger advantage for Switch 2 when compared to the 10GB Xbox Series S, of which only 8GBs is available for games, which is by far the biggest weakness of the platform, and something Switch 2 avoids... Switch 2's allotment for games is 11GB of RAM, while PS5's is 13GB of RAM, this is a very small difference when you start putting the higher quality assets into the PS5 game, meaning RAM will be far less of an issue this time around, giving 3rd parties a big green light. Another shipping leak was the inclusion of 256GB UFS 3.1 flash storage, this puts it on par with the Xbox Series S/X storage speeds, and Switch 2 also comes with a decompression block speeding this up, much like PS5's storage is sped up, this means load times can be eliminated.
A last component of the Switch 2 when compared to Xbox and Playstation, is that Switch 2 has the RTX feature suite, this includes 12 Ray Tracing cores (which should allow it to do ray tracing at or above current gen consoles), and of course DLSS, this allows the Switch 2 to spend all of it's rendering power on 1/4th the pixels, and uses tensor cores via AI deep learning, to output a higher resolution, and while the AMD consoles can do something similar with FSR 2+, it requires part of the GPU's resources reserved for rendering the image. Basically if you are looking at XBSS and Switch 2 as both having 4TFLOPs (they will be not exactly the same performance even with the same flop count, it's still a valid metric for the tier of performance), All of Switch 2's 4TFLOPs can go to rendering a 720p image, and use those tensor cores to push the image to 1440p or even 4K, meanwhile Xbox Series S has to reserve some of it's 4TFLOPs to do FSR 2+ upscaling, and the upscaling simply doesn't hold up as well, so you might render at 720p and output at 1080p, or 1440p, and dare never push to 4K, and remember, Switch 2 has more RAM. I'll also highlight that last year in Germany, there was a leak from Nintendo's behind doors presentation that showed off the Matrix Awaking demo running better on Switch 2 than on Xbox Series S according to those in attendance, so this even bares out in the real world. It's worth noting here that DLSS could mean that Switch 2 could output similar resolutions to the PS5/Xbox Series X with the same graphics at half the frame rates, or smartly reduce some graphics and hit the same frame rates. One thing we might see is FF7Rebirth's performance mode that hit 1080p at 60fps, do either 1080p at 30fps or even 1440p at 30fps, the image might actually look sharper as well, because DLSS is just the best upscale method used in consoles once Switch 2 releases.
Finally, PS5 Pro is around 50% more powerful than PS5 according to Sony, so this should allow them to just about double their frame rates at 4K, but also re-confirms PS6 is far off in the distance, and with the crossgen period PS4 enjoyed, PS5 will be a focus for developers into the year ~2032. Meaning Switch 2 will have 7 years on the market before PS5 is abandoned, and if Switch 2 can do all of these things, it's going to be a very legitimate platform for any gamer, and any 3rd party looking at a multiplatform release, that RAM difference, the GPU performance, and even the A78C CPU Switch 2 is using, is actually very good in comparison. (ARM's A78C is faster per clock than the Ryzen 2 found in Xbox and PS5, and with 8 cores available, developers shouldn't have an issue with this CPU, as it should offer around 2/3rds the CPU performance as the other consoles because of it's lower clock, though this is offset by Nvidia's offloading of things like physics from the CPU to the GPU, which has allowed Nintendo to push the Switch far further than it's 1GHz 4 core A57 processor should have allowed for).
Waiting for that nyxi warrior controller review :3
The industry keeps mentioning and damage controlling that games take longer and cost more to produce yet at the same time are hyper fixated on games looking hyper graphically impressive with barely any substance to them. Do they not realize the hypocrisy in their statements?
A little bit early with the wii??!?!?!?!?!?!
Don't you know that Nintendo had the choice of a low powered console, or no console at all. This is because of too few sales overall for Nintendo.
One thing would be nice.conect to tv without cable.with miror screen.
Kevin did you (do you) live in New York City?
I wonder what's stopping sony and microsoft from copying nintendo strategy ? Just make their own hybrid handheld that as strong as a switch 2 and make fun games to it
They literally tried that with the ds and it didn’t work, and the Wii, and the 3ds. Every time Sony tries to copy Nintendo it flops. I feel like Sony has a good thing going with more story driven games and if they smarten up a bit then they could have there own niche like Nintendo. And honestly Xbox will probably fail soon.
PS. When I say ds and 3ds I just mean trying to take a slice of the handheld pie, not directly ripping the dual screen concept wich they obviously didn’t do.
If they want to make it third part friendly it should be a little higher for dock cuz that seems incredibly lower power from ps5 and x. Idk if that after dlss and another nvidia technology.
What’s the game at 9:14 / 9:15 ?
Can't wait for everyone to be screaming about drift again and Nintendo trying to cover it up.
Switch 2 better have mode 7 scaling and rotation is all I’m say’n.
I’m so sick and tired of the narrative that Pokémon Scarlet and Violet have performance issues, due to Switch hardware limitations. No. Gamefreak has no experience making open world 3D titles. They have almost exclusively made top down, 2D games or 2.5D side scrollers. They aren’t given enough time and they aren’t given enough assistance with competent developers.
Gamefreak is lazy and under staffed like crazy. They just do not care because "it will still sell".
Scarlet and Violet are half-baked games that were rushed out the door to meet a corporate deadline. Sega does the same shit all the time, and no one blames that on "hardware limitations".
It’s both the switch is a potato don’t be delusional
@@denisn8336 It’s not. You just don’t understand programming. I’ll give you an easy test. Why did the original Bayonetta run poorly on PS3, yet flawlessly on 360, when the PS3 had vastly superior capabilities and specs?
@@garvensman no you don’t get programming either lmao. Bayonetta ran poorly on ps3 because of the cell architecture at the time being so alien so they couldn’t utilise it properly. Platinum then made vanquish and metal gear rising which had much better graphics than bayonetta and ran better because they understood the cell architecture better.
12GB of maybe (LP)DDR5(X) 7000+ memory, means it's not memory starved at least. But, hopefully that Tegra 2? Can do 1080, 60Hz.
man i just wish games were cheaper
As long as the Switch 2 hardware is still at least comparable to the current PlayStation and Xbox while still being affordable, I think it’ll be fine this time. As long as Switch games actually run well and are in 4K, I’m golden.
More powerful than a steam deck is all i care about
resource-wise power-level-wise sales-wise first-party-wise multiplatform-wise debate-wise 😄 I agree though, showing off big numbers and edge tech is cool but has diminishing returns. Better off making interesting experiences and picking the right tools for it.
Bigger battery please and USB 3.0 port for wired controllers
I don't care about ultra-realistic graphics, but I really hope they aim for at least 60fps 1080p across the board.
I don't think it's fair to say that the switch is underpowered. The Wii and WiiU were for sure, but the switch is a handheld device and at the time of its release it was fairly powerful for a handheld. Not really "pushing boundaries" of course but modern consoles don't really do that anymore anyway.
I know right? People people always compare the switch to other consoles when the switch is basically a handheld that can project to a tv. A real comparison would be with steam deck, which I feel a much more realistic target range.
I mean some people out here hoping it will compete with the series x xD
Looking forward to play Final Fantasy IX Remake on Switch 2 next year 😊🎉
Nintendo should be worried about all the powerful handhelds coming out. Gamers might not buy a third party game on the switch when you got the Steam Deck, Rog Ally, MSI Claw and Legion Go which can play the same game docked with probably better performance.
That can't be so sure third party sales will be there next gen.
So they need to focus on their own exclusives more. Not sure they cna pull the same shenanigans with pokemon, sports games and half assed ports etc.
😅😅 All those devices are amd. 😂😂
Makes sense - PS and Xbox tried to follow the PC model but the reality is the mass consumers of PC buyers can afford 1080p processors and GPUs and are very content with that running a 60-120FPS with good 1080.
The 4K market is niche in grand scheme of things and we have hit a bottleneck of how good something can look.
The interesting difference for me will be the impact of the processing power on the gameplay vs PS5 and Xbox because of their bigger chipset. Arguably they could run a balders gate 3 where as I’d be interested to see if Switch 2 will be able to
Still enjoying my current switch
People forget that the switch succes in supposedly having lots of games is because most of these games were ported from the WiiU
What game is that at 7:17 ?
Eiyuden chronicle hundred heroes….Thanks me later
@@Mr.Chimpazee the time is now "later" so I gives you my thanks, as was foretold
TOTK @ 60fps please
The fact that the steam deck and especially the ally weren't mentioned at all is crazy. The z1 extreme ally is already near the performance level of the series s. And also that we're having to say hopefully the next switch which is realistically still 1-2 years out will be performance competitive with today's other hand helds and an entry level console that came out almost 4 years ago.
Price point for consumers is a major factor too. Something like a z1 extreme price point would be unacceptable for large swaths of the gaming audience, so the install base for it would be small.
@@MatthewAvalos1I think they are aiming for the $299/$349 price point, no more than that. Probably $299 because of competition of series S, that means we get less power like 2 tflops instead of 4 tflops
But they're made with AMD tech. No thank you. DLSS on low powered handheld
devices is going to change everything
Watching this video counting down to Paper Mario Ttyd release in 10 minutes 😁😊🎮🌟🍄🎉🥳😎🙌
Games are getting way too big. I'd like some shorter, games with more linear storylines should make a comeback.
We need more Uncharted type games
I honestly think the new Astro Bot is a sneak prak on ehat Nintendo games might look like on the Switch successor.
backwards compatibility and the possibility of playing ds and 3ds games will be the greatest thing of all time. hopefully nintendo will break its cycle of having ever other console be a failure.
Frame generation pretty much means that the power of a console doesn't matter like it used to.
on par with series s sounds like a great place to be but they would also NEED to have an ssd to keep the games from feeling even worse after a few years being on the market, and along with that we would need to easily be able to add ssd storage as nintendo is famous for including minimal amounts of storage, I could see this thing releasing with in the range of 64 - 128gb of storage and at the VERY most 256gb of storage. with power levels akin to the series s I could pretty easily see 100+ gigabyte games coming to the system in its lifetime
This is ridiculous. Whats the point of them creating next gen systems if power doesnt matter.
You're advocating for them selling us the bare minimum. They're release entirely new consoles when they could release upgrades of the same system.
Theres a reason they arent doing that though.
With the next console generation of PlayStation and Xbox, I’m getting a pc, but the only console I’ll ever keep buying is Nintendo. They always prioritize making games that are fun to play over things being hyper realistic or competitive
Idc much about graphics, I'd like to see some stylus action on the Nintendo Switch 2. Had a blast with it on the 3DS and wanna see it evolve 🙂
I like The Pathless for its beauty and simplicity. Sure, a few enhanced regions to explore or a bit more realism for the protagonist would be welcome. A whole host of other PG games which do not look so “pachinko-like” might help Nintendo. Make a game not intended for release first and build the hardware which supports it, is perhaps the way to go.
Love my switch. Was one of the first to get one back in 2017. Been contemplating on whether or not to keep it to trade towards switch 2 or keep it cuz lol just found out it's moddable😲. Lol just modded my psp3000 and 3DS. They were the first consoles I ever did that to. The mod world is amazing😄just wondering how skilled those Nintendo ninjas are. Lol i mean it's not patched. Very tempting. Ugh
I agree, with how long it takes to make games with top graphics and performance it just isn’t worth it to me. And it also causes what Xbox is suffering from where they release “not finished” games and it hurts them more than helps them. I’m interested to see what the next switch will do.
Been gaming since the early 80s and I love the fact that nintendo make a machine that runs there AAA games.. maybe there smarter as costs must be cheaper. I just want Diddy kong racing lol, which unfortunately rare is owner by M$
All the mock ups I’m seeing show the switch 2 in a super beautiful and modern way. But i hope Nintendo does something bright and fun. Gameboy color, GBA, n64 and GameCube had striking colors and some, like atomic purple have become iconic and synonymous with Nintendo. Plus, it will make it stick out in a pretty saturated pc handheld market. Keeping my fingers crossed for a jungle green switch 2!
My Series X is basically just my 4K player at this point. My Switch occupies all my time. There are so many absolutely incredible first party games for the Switch. It’ll take me long after the “Switch 2” comes out to complete everything I want to play for the Switch. Meanwhile, the Series X has been out for four years and 99.9% of my library are previous Gen games I’ve played dozens of times. I had a feeling when teraflops started to become the main conversation for consoles that the focus would shift from fun games to pretty games and that ironically lowered the quality of gaming. If you’re old enough to remember when the Xbox 360 came out there was no mention of teraflops in the marketing and no one gave a shit. We just wanted fun games and that’s what we got. There was never a constant expectation to push the 360 to its limits, we just wanted to have fun and THAT’S why that generation was so successful.
I think switch 2 might be closer in power to Xbox one x, as when the Switch was still not revealed it was said to be slightly more powerful then the Xbox one, but we can only wait and see
thing is. i liked the series S i have one i keep in my van when i go camping its smaller an can fit places and stay out of site the bigger consoles cant
I actually reckon that swirch 2 games will look better than series s games. Admittedly by cheating with things like more advanced upscaling and tricks ect.