15 drinks is more than enough for almost everyone. The problem is that it becomes the goal. Carnival has more issues with excessive drinking than other cruise lines because of this limit.
Idea…cut the number & price in half…say 7 drinks, then (if you have purchased the package) after you’ve had your 7 you get a discount on additional drinks.
Maybe the best idea is to eliminate drink packages all together and lower the price of drinks.. $7.50 for a beer is high by any standard.. Since no matter what they do, people aren't going to be satisfied, let people pay as they go like they do at any other bar.. The cheers package is almost a $1000 for a 7 day cruise for 2 people, so many people feel like they HAVE to get their moneys worth and over do it.
lol you had me on the floor at the end comparing carnival cruise compared to princess. You are a cruise blogger you know the difference in the clientele and the type of cruise a carnival one is and princess. Princess cruisers don’t need a limit! If carnival guests have a problem with needing more than 15 alcoholic DRINKS in a day a cruise isn’t what they desperately need to be checking into! Plus everyone in the cabin can buy alcohol for it AND bring a certain amount in their carry on AND drink in every port they are in. I mean this is absolutely ridiculous!
It has nothing to do with the clientele, it's a sign of the times we are in. .There is bad behavior everywhere, you see people going nuts on planes and in hotels, too.. Carnival gets all the negative people reporting every little incident as if it doesn't happen every where.. Now they are complaining about blue tooth speakers and wanting to ban them, too. I have been on 7 cruises, all on Carnival, and loud music from blue tooth speakers has never been an issue on the ships I was on. And we hang out on the LIDO deck most of the time, where you kind of expect a lot of noise. People are not going to a funeral or a library, it's a vacation, and there will be some noise.. The issue falls more on how the crew handles issues before they get out of hand, and I think Carnival is implementing policies to try to deal with that.. I figure the best way would be to ban all cruising for anyone under 50 years old.. That would solve a lot of issues.. Of course, I'm kidding.
The speed limit on some Texas highways is 85mph. You are not REQUIRED to travel 85mph, but that is pretty much viewed as the baseline for speed. My point: If you tell everyone that their money buys them 15 alcohol drinks per day; for some people this will be the baseline for getting their money's worth. Not arguing that it should be, nor am I suggesting that that '73 Vega should try to cruise at 85mph for hours on end. Perhaps, quite unintentionally, they are signaling people that 15 drinks a day is the baseline to achieve. I would suggest either dropping the number all together, and just tell people that if Carnival decides you have had enough and are done, then the number of drinks consumed are irrelevant. That or reduce the 15 to something like 4 or 5 (which will irk beer/wine/low alcohol cocktail drinkers off in a serious way). Just a thought
Exactly, sometimes placing a limit becomes a goal for some.. Just imagine what some people would do if they made it where they only got one trip through the buffet.. They would take several plates and pile them high as they could and most of the food would end up in the garbage. Making it unlimited isn't absolute, either, it is in the cruise contract that they can discontinue service to any passenger that is noticeably intoxicated.
Guess what every bar, nightclub, casino and restaurant on land has the right to refuse service to any guest ( even before 15 drinks ). Carnival sells the guest a contract that limits served drinks to 15 (unless cut off due to an guest issue) . Being at sea handling unruly passengers with a security force is much different than the same issue using a true land based police force with arresting power. I can understand a cut off as it affects every guest that buys the package equally and giving servers a hard cut off point. Less room for a guest to argue.
I hope not! People already get stupid drunk and are annoying. Personally I wish they would enforce a reasonable drink limit waaaaaay below 15. But they will not. That is one reason they have so many altercations on their ships. I've seen enough of them. Heck, I've done 21 in the past 2 years.
It’s ridiculous for anyone to have 15 alcoholic beverages in one day. This is why fights break out. If you need 15 drinks, you should head to rehab, not on a cruise. Personally, I do not want to be around anyone who has had more than 4 or 5 drinks.
The Cheers package is a little better and a little not so good. We have bought the Cheers package in the past, and we enjoyed it, and I have to say, it is worth it. If one can 'average' 7 or 8 drinks a day, it's worth it. Also if one is a premium coffee drinker, that is included (that's about $6 a cup, more or less, and also the best milkshakes on the ship)! Cheers also includes a bubble package, so the sodas and bottled water are included in the Cheers package. Okay, the bad, one can not get beer in a bucket, souvenir glass drinks, or pitchers. I think it's worth it myself, even if I drink just 5 alcoholic drinks a day, the premium coffee, the milkshakes, the bubbles package, and a freaking bottle of water from any bar anytime (no limit). Do we buy the drink every cruise, no. I think we dont drink as much if we have the package, but we definitely miss the unlimited bottles of water, one can dehydrate quickly. I don't think enough water is available unless one buys it before the cruise and it's delivered to their room. Anyway, parents, the minimum you should do is buy your children the bubbles package. It does not include bottled water, but it is what it is.
I feel a lot of people feel pressure to get worth out of the package people need to remember so many other N/A beverages speciality coffees, Gatorade, energy drinks, bottled water so much more than alcohol
Same here.. There has always been the right of the cruise line to stop serving people, that is still true, even if they purchase a drink package. I love comments on here from people that have never set foot on a Carnival ship, but know all about them because they read it somewhere. I know several people that sailed on Royal that said never again and returned to Carnival. To each their own.. I have my 8th cruise booked and it leaves in 24 days.. After that, I think we are going to cool it on cruising for a while and do more land based things we have been wanting to do.. I hope all the cruise lines get the behavior that has been getting crazier by the day under control.. Good day..
Alcohol has been an issue on many of their ships. Fights and even death. I get it. Why do ones that don’t drink have to deal with rude drunks on the ship.
I agree! I think the limit is forcing certain people to drink as much as they can while in port. On my last cruise I saw a man buy a bottle of tequila from the duty free store. 8 hours later we're getting ready to board the ship and I recognized the man from earlier. He was wasted!! His friends were on both sides trying to prevent him from falling. He drank the entire bottle in 8 hours.
Ive hit the 15 limit on sea days. But i drink champange, not hard liquor. I can do more than 15 and be fine, while others can have 3 and act a fool. On other lines without limits, i personally haven't seen a problem.
They can still limit people, no matter what.. If a person is obviously intoxicated, they will stop serving them alcohol.. That's pretty much any bar anywhere. I think that the 15 drink limit is part of the problem, because people see it as a goal that they must reach to get their money's worth.. I drink quite a bit and don't drink 15 a day, and I only drink beer.. That being said, at $7.50 a beer, the drink package is a good deal if you drink 9 or more. I don't like it because I like to buy buckets, so I can put a couple in the room fridge instead of heading to the bar if we are hanging out in the cabin..
Lower the max, lower the price. Maybe that leads to fewer brawls. You could tie the number of drinks to body weight, but then that'd have to be figured into the package price as well. In my experience, there aren't very many "good drunks."
I guess princess cruise line is more up scale, so maybe they are not too worried about people getting drunk and doing bad stuff or starting fights. JUST my GUESS
Be serious buddy --- everyone who cruises knows Carnival is horrible --- they attract the worst class of passengers ---- kind of like a Walmart at 3 am on a Saturday --- Most people I know would not sail on Carnival even if FREE for life
What if they had 2 different drink packages? Package #1 with 15 drinks for $70 per day and package #2 with unlimited drinks for $100+ per day. This way people like myself that drink less than 15 drinks a day, are not forced to buy an unlimited drink package at a higher price. 2 different price points is a win win for everyone.
@@mikeclark7332 I’d suggest something similar but in the opposite direction. Package #1 is 15 but package #2 is only 7 @$35. They would get a lot more people to buy it & have less problems.
I can put down well over 15 without ever appearing intoxicated. And before some ass-umer jumps in, no. I'm not an alcoholic. I don't even drink all that often. I'm just a really big and tall guy who knows how to drink.
I find most of the comments to be disingenuous at best. "Hurr durr you don't NEED 15 drinks alcoholic." By that logic, hurr durr you don't NEED cruises either. Cruises are short term vacations, typically lasting less than a week. It is an opportunity to splurge and experience things you would not otherwise experience. Newer ships can have 10+ bars, all with 10-20+ exclusive drinks at that bar. You want to try everything you'd never make at home? Not on Carnival. If you weren't trying to cockblock me on a drink package that already has a gigantic profit margin I might order a cheapo glass of wine that compliments my meal, but under this system I am incentivized go for the booziest mixed drink I can find. Incentivizing the booziest drinks is the problem, not the quantity of drinks. I see far more drunkenness on Carnival than I do on Celebrity, and you can actually get decent alcohol with Celebrity's package.
15 drinks is more than enough for almost everyone. The problem is that it becomes the goal. Carnival has more issues with excessive drinking than other cruise lines because of this limit.
Idea…cut the number & price in half…say 7 drinks, then (if you have purchased the package) after you’ve had your 7 you get a discount on additional drinks.
This is actually a good idea!
Thanks for the updates Captain Corey 👍 15 drinks a day is too many for me that why to have a cheaper package.
15 mixed alcohol drinks is more than enough
Exactly
Maybe the best idea is to eliminate drink packages all together and lower the price of drinks.. $7.50 for a beer is high by any standard.. Since no matter what they do, people aren't going to be satisfied, let people pay as they go like they do at any other bar.. The cheers package is almost a $1000 for a 7 day cruise for 2 people, so many people feel like they HAVE to get their moneys worth and over do it.
lol you had me on the floor at the end comparing carnival cruise compared to princess. You are a cruise blogger you know the difference in the clientele and the type of cruise a carnival one is and princess. Princess cruisers don’t need a limit! If carnival guests have a problem with needing more than 15 alcoholic DRINKS in a day a cruise isn’t what they desperately need to be checking into! Plus everyone in the cabin can buy alcohol for it AND bring a certain amount in their carry on AND drink in every port they are in. I mean this is absolutely ridiculous!
Btw I am a carnival cruiser
It has nothing to do with the clientele, it's a sign of the times we are in. .There is bad behavior everywhere, you see people going nuts on planes and in hotels, too.. Carnival gets all the negative people reporting every little incident as if it doesn't happen every where.. Now they are complaining about blue tooth speakers and wanting to ban them, too. I have been on 7 cruises, all on Carnival, and loud music from blue tooth speakers has never been an issue on the ships I was on. And we hang out on the LIDO deck most of the time, where you kind of expect a lot of noise. People are not going to a funeral or a library, it's a vacation, and there will be some noise.. The issue falls more on how the crew handles issues before they get out of hand, and I think Carnival is implementing policies to try to deal with that.. I figure the best way would be to ban all cruising for anyone under 50 years old.. That would solve a lot of issues.. Of course, I'm kidding.
The speed limit on some Texas highways is 85mph. You are not REQUIRED to travel 85mph, but that is pretty much viewed as the baseline for speed. My point: If you tell everyone that their money buys them 15 alcohol drinks per day; for some people this will be the baseline for getting their money's worth. Not arguing that it should be, nor am I suggesting that that '73 Vega should try to cruise at 85mph for hours on end. Perhaps, quite unintentionally, they are signaling people that 15 drinks a day is the baseline to achieve. I would suggest either dropping the number all together, and just tell people that if Carnival decides you have had enough and are done, then the number of drinks consumed are irrelevant. That or reduce the 15 to something like 4 or 5 (which will irk beer/wine/low alcohol cocktail drinkers off in a serious way). Just a thought
Exactly, sometimes placing a limit becomes a goal for some.. Just imagine what some people would do if they made it where they only got one trip through the buffet.. They would take several plates and pile them high as they could and most of the food would end up in the garbage. Making it unlimited isn't absolute, either, it is in the cruise contract that they can discontinue service to any passenger that is noticeably intoxicated.
Guess what every bar, nightclub, casino and restaurant on land has the right to refuse service to any guest ( even before 15 drinks ). Carnival sells the guest a contract that limits served drinks to 15 (unless cut off due to an guest issue) . Being at sea handling unruly passengers with a security force is much different than the same issue using a true land based police force with arresting power. I can understand a cut off as it affects every guest that buys the package equally and giving servers a hard cut off point. Less room for a guest to argue.
They already have enough problems. No need to lift that!! 15 is ALOT....
If you want/need more than 15 alcoholic drinks a day you might be an alcoholic. Time to go to the AA meetings on board.
I hope not! People already get stupid drunk and are annoying. Personally I wish they would enforce a reasonable drink limit waaaaaay below 15. But they will not. That is one reason they have so many altercations on their ships. I've seen enough of them. Heck, I've done 21 in the past 2 years.
Royal is your answer to the 15 drink limit.
It’s ridiculous for anyone to have 15 alcoholic beverages in one day. This is why fights break out. If you need 15 drinks, you should head to rehab, not on a cruise. Personally, I do not want to be around anyone who has had more than 4 or 5 drinks.
Then you better never leave your house.
The Cheers package is a little better and a little not so good. We have bought the Cheers package in the past, and we enjoyed it, and I have to say, it is worth it. If one can 'average' 7 or 8 drinks a day, it's worth it. Also if one is a premium coffee drinker, that is included (that's about $6 a cup, more or less, and also the best milkshakes on the ship)! Cheers also includes a bubble package, so the sodas and bottled water are included in the Cheers package. Okay, the bad, one can not get beer in a bucket, souvenir glass drinks, or pitchers. I think it's worth it myself, even if I drink just 5 alcoholic drinks a day, the premium coffee, the milkshakes, the bubbles package, and a freaking bottle of water from any bar anytime (no limit). Do we buy the drink every cruise, no. I think we dont drink as much if we have the package, but we definitely miss the unlimited bottles of water, one can dehydrate quickly. I don't think enough water is available unless one buys it before the cruise and it's delivered to their room. Anyway, parents, the minimum you should do is buy your children the bubbles package. It does not include bottled water, but it is what it is.
I feel a lot of people feel pressure to get worth out of the package people need to remember so many other N/A beverages speciality coffees, Gatorade, energy drinks, bottled water so much more than alcohol
After 16 cruises ive never seen anyone falling down drunk and most of my cruises have been on Carnival.
Same here.. There has always been the right of the cruise line to stop serving people, that is still true, even if they purchase a drink package. I love comments on here from people that have never set foot on a Carnival ship, but know all about them because they read it somewhere. I know several people that sailed on Royal that said never again and returned to Carnival. To each their own.. I have my 8th cruise booked and it leaves in 24 days.. After that, I think we are going to cool it on cruising for a while and do more land based things we have been wanting to do.. I hope all the cruise lines get the behavior that has been getting crazier by the day under control.. Good day..
15 perfectly measured cocktails is not that much when you’re drinking all day
Alcohol has been an issue on many of their ships. Fights and even death. I get it. Why do ones that don’t drink have to deal with rude drunks on the ship.
I agree! I think the limit is forcing certain people to drink as much as they can while in port. On my last cruise I saw a man buy a bottle of tequila from the duty free store. 8 hours later we're getting ready to board the ship and I recognized the man from earlier. He was wasted!! His friends were on both sides trying to prevent him from falling. He drank the entire bottle in 8 hours.
And that's one of the reasons we don't cruise Carnival.
M I have no complaint about the limit of 15,, my complaint is boarding in galveston, cheers does NOT start till next morning... REALLY??
Carnival already has a yahoo perception issue. I won't cruise on that line
Ive hit the 15 limit on sea days. But i drink champange, not hard liquor. I can do more than 15 and be fine, while others can have 3 and act a fool. On other lines without limits, i personally haven't seen a problem.
If you don’t like the drink package don’t buy it. Buy all the drinks you want individually.
They can still limit people, no matter what.. If a person is obviously intoxicated, they will stop serving them alcohol.. That's pretty much any bar anywhere. I think that the 15 drink limit is part of the problem, because people see it as a goal that they must reach to get their money's worth.. I drink quite a bit and don't drink 15 a day, and I only drink beer.. That being said, at $7.50 a beer, the drink package is a good deal if you drink 9 or more. I don't like it because I like to buy buckets, so I can put a couple in the room fridge instead of heading to the bar if we are hanging out in the cabin..
You can't buy ALL the drinks you want individually. The 15 limit applies whether you buy the package or not.
This why a cruise on norwegian no drinks limit I am on vacation I drinks as many I want
Why cut into their profits? 🍺🍻🍺
Carnival is looking to save for Carnivals pocket.
Lower the max, lower the price. Maybe that leads to fewer brawls. You could tie the number of drinks to body weight, but then that'd have to be figured into the package price as well. In my experience, there aren't very many "good drunks."
and then they'll get charged for alcohol poisoning someone
Anyone who can drink 15 alcoholic beverages has a serious problem
Ok boomer
If your drinking more than 15 drinks a day, you might have a problem. That's the conclusion I came to with myself
I guess princess cruise line is more up scale, so maybe they are not too worried about people getting drunk and doing bad stuff or starting fights. JUST my GUESS
drunks will mooch off others..
Be serious buddy --- everyone who cruises knows Carnival is horrible --- they attract the worst class of passengers ---- kind of like a Walmart at 3 am on a Saturday --- Most people I know would not sail on Carnival even if FREE for life
What if they had 2 different drink packages? Package #1 with 15 drinks for $70 per day and package #2 with unlimited drinks for $100+ per day. This way people like myself that drink less than 15 drinks a day, are not forced to buy an unlimited drink package at a higher price. 2 different price points is a win win for everyone.
@@mikeclark7332 I’d suggest something similar but in the opposite direction. Package #1 is 15 but package #2 is only 7 @$35. They would get a lot more people to buy it & have less problems.
I can put down well over 15 without ever appearing intoxicated. And before some ass-umer jumps in, no. I'm not an alcoholic. I don't even drink all that often. I'm just a really big and tall guy who knows how to drink.
You are the exception, not the norm. You said it yourself "really big and tall." smh
I find most of the comments to be disingenuous at best. "Hurr durr you don't NEED 15 drinks alcoholic." By that logic, hurr durr you don't NEED cruises either. Cruises are short term vacations, typically lasting less than a week. It is an opportunity to splurge and experience things you would not otherwise experience. Newer ships can have 10+ bars, all with 10-20+ exclusive drinks at that bar. You want to try everything you'd never make at home? Not on Carnival. If you weren't trying to cockblock me on a drink package that already has a gigantic profit margin I might order a cheapo glass of wine that compliments my meal, but under this system I am incentivized go for the booziest mixed drink I can find. Incentivizing the booziest drinks is the problem, not the quantity of drinks. I see far more drunkenness on Carnival than I do on Celebrity, and you can actually get decent alcohol with Celebrity's package.