Begode EXTREME Final Review - Redemption Wheel!
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Your control in the sand is incredible
Thx! I go full sand :)
Very nice wrap-up Adam. FYI, the beeper volume (in the app) does not affect the power alarm (you have it set to 70% in this video). So I turn the volume to 1 so won't hear the low battery beeps, etc. but will still hear the power alarm beeps at full volume.
Thanks Marty! Oh that’s great to hear, thanks for the information! ;)
Let's talk about your suspension adjustments: typically we set our spring for about 1/3 droop or sag. Why do we devote twice as much stroke to the compression part as we do to the rebound? Because fighting gravity is hard! We need to use that extra travel to slow down all that energy from a drop. We also put a lot of damping on that compression stroke to dissipate all that kinetic energy. Once the wheel is compressed we'd like the wheel to return to neutral as quickly as possible, without acting like a pogo-stick and launching us in the air (although, some might like that). So we tend to put a little bit of damping on the rebound stroke, but not too much. If you set the shock to have zero damping on the compression, and a ton of damping on the rebound/return - then the suspension will pack down over successive bumps.
@0:18 . Some of us rather wait for the truth than a quick lie for clicks. Your Subs and old school and new smart riders RESPECT your HONESTY! The EUC community Appreciates you! Dziękuję !! 🙏
I really like this wheel. I have it for two months. I've ridden about 1600 km and climbed over 30km in total. Longest distance I could get on one charge was 113km and 2850m of elevation gain. That involved mostly offroad all-mountain riding
I really like mine. I have a batch 1 (serial no is under 20!) and haven't had any significant issues. It took me a long time (too long) to settle on a dedicated trail wheel, and I know that trying trails on my heavier wheels (EX20) did little to help me learn these skills. I'm glad I finally bought the Extreme. I'm definitely towards the more apprehensive end of the scale when it comes to learning new skills and trying new tricks (jumps, big obstacles / downed trees / drops etc.) but this wheel does inspire confidence, and will help you push your limits a bit. I've always struggled with going down really steep stuff - I have way more confidence climbing than descending, largely because I'm a light rider (~135lb) and have generally ridden heavy wheels that just don't want to slow down on steep descents. The Extreme changed all that - I did some fairly steep new trails last weekend and love how the wheel just responds instantly to what I want it to. There's such massive torque, which most people equate to climbing and acceleration, but the same torque gives you a massive breaking control on descents as well. Riding this wheel, I know that I am the weak link, and that I can trust the wheel do behave the way I want it to. Seeing some of the crazy stuff these guys are doing on 'my' wheel also helps a lot. I still love my Master Pro for long road cruising, but this wheel excels at everything else.
I really enjoyed this review as well as your review of the Kingsong S16 and S19 which I was considering. I'm a new rider and have only ridden an A2 and an Inmotion v5. Bought the Extreme and I'm 150 miles into enjoying it so much. Thanks for making such thoughtful and well-researched content!
Love this wheel, Crazy performance and easy to ride. I Only ride it on Offroad mtb single tracks.have it for 3 months and did 2267 kmWhat a blast
Begode gets the best value from your association with them.
Much appreciated from the community for sure
honestly probably my favorite review i’ve seen you do in the last year! packed with important info and still enjoyable and entertaining. the extreme looks great and the 50s version also looks bonkers. you can get the 50e version from euc deals for 2700 usd which is like 2500 euro and that is a great deal. i’ve also seen it dip to 2300 usd aka 2150 euro
I love your reviews, and now it is time to return to begode's EUCs
Ur reviews are always the best! Not just pure hype and not just smack talking. U put it out there as things are! I love the fact u do a long term review opposed to everyone else that only does 1st impressions! I will ask though why do you prefer nylonove pedals over e-rides or other pedals for that matter. Maybe do a in depth video on ur experience with pedals? May just become a channel member! Hehe😊 be my 1st! Thank you again adam for all the hard work you do to guide us into purchasing the wheel thats best for the buyer!
Hi Mr Wrong Way, nice review. I've been thinking for some time now that it would be really nice and useful if you made a video teaching specifically how to fall on EUCs, like the best way to avoid injuries when you crash, the best position to keep when you ride to be fully prepared, and so on.. I know there is some general knowledge about this coming from motorcycle riders, but it would be nice if someone skilled and experienced like you shared some tricks that are specific and unique to EUC riding...
I'm not sure if you already made something about this topic in the past, it's just a thought :)
Like this new split screen look 👍
Thanks! Me too ;) also better workflow for me :)
Hi Adam! I have one and by far I'm not abusing it like you and I am happy to hear that you like it. I like it a lot and hope to use it in the years to come without issues. Great content as usual and stay safe!
Thanks for the great review, as a newcomer that has been reading and trying to catch up with euc times, its great to see a brand getting on board with the responsabilities that their products need to be reliable to their customers, and safe
We love a long overdue review. I'll be making one on the T4 after 2500 miles and 8 months
Hey Adam, thanks for the review! I'm surprised you didn't address the famous Chooch cut out and consequential criticism! I waited for it the entire video. Surely you must have thoughts on it, being such a Extreme lover!
Great review. Thank you
Also one of my favorite wheels. I use it every day on the farm and for trail rides when I get a break.
Awesome!
Thanks for this video, I have been looking around for the next wheel but also dont want to be spending motorcycle money on a wheel. This one looks pretty good for an upgrade to my S22 and its not going to be top dollar. I do like that you can take the wheel out the box and its all ready to go this is what I missed on the Patton that you still need to go and buy pads and so on. I think the only issue here in the UK is going to be getting parts.
Just passed 1,200 miles on my batch 1 Extreme and I couldn't agree more with your review. Built like a tank and you can damn near drive it straight up a tree. Really hoping to see some V2 pillars on the market soon that address the motor mount stress issues. This wheel was built for the trails.
My pillars broke yesterday after 2050 miles.
Awesome detailed review.
Thanks!
I have been waiting for this video for so long!!🔥
Yaaaay! Finally ;) me too 😂
Chooch complained about the suspension bolt being too weak and too short. doesn't seem like you have the same problem.😂
Very nice review!
Thanks! :) cheers!
20:09 watching from Ukraine, that fckin charger sounds just like an air strike alarm. Thank you begode))
The birds is a nice background music ❤
And suits the eco friendly transportation unit 😊
Its my dream wheel… some day maybe 🎉
I would like you to criticize the S22 problem. Right now in Thailand there is a problem with many engines shutting down in mid-air.
Nice to see the full review. The Extreme seems like a future classic candidate, it'd be great if Begode would continue to provide parts / support for this wheel for a long time, as they really nailed it with this one. Even though in the euc space things go forward quickly, I feel like having a reliable and proven model is what will help widespread adoption in the long run.
That said, do you have your eyes on the Extreme Bull Griffon? Supposedly, it'll feature a smart BMS, which is unfortunately still not a given with all the new releases ;)
Yes! I hope they’ll support the wheel well :)
I asked about the EB, awaiting an answer :)
@@mr_wrongway Nice, fingers crossed😇
I now have 3100 km on my extreme and loved every km on off road single tracks and jumps, stairs etc.
Upgrade to a Lynx? Or buy a new extreme @wrongway?
2050 miles on mine. My tire and airshock needs to be replaced. Im switching to a coil. My pillar broke yesterday connecting my wheel to pedal hangers. I guess getting 2000 miles before stuff needed to be replaced is okay... A lot of those miles are rough trail riding
It just sucks my friend has had multiple shocks break from very mild abuse, bent pedals, bent lower battery brackets, broke both stanchions because of the thin metal. They replaced everything, but will not send the updated shock so it's just the same stock spring shock that keeps breaking. Just feels very fragile for something meant to be "Extreme." 😢
Your friend must be a beast. Normal people don't break this stuff. The stanchions are stainless steel, meaning about as strong as cro-moly. "Very mild abuse" LOL.
@@Dave-cf4vd He was on the old ones. It doesn't matter how strong they are when they're only 1mm thin at a right angle going to the motor.
You probably won't have time to answer a questions like this, but based on your input in other videos and explanations about build quality and Smart BMS, I've narrowed my next wheel choice to be between the Begode Extreme and the Inmotion V14. The Extreme upgraded to the 50S batteries and the heavier suspension makes it about the same price as a V14, so cost between the two isn't an issue. My biggest concern is maintenance and waterproofing. Have you (or anyone else in the comments) ridden the Extreme in the rain much to know how water resistant it is? As for the V14, with it's more "Begodish" design, is it easier to work on than other Inmotion wheels? I'm leaning towards the V14 for the waterproofing piece of mind, but the Extreme's better suspension travel is also tempting in it's own way.
The Extreme is damn near water proof so if that's your deciding factor I would go extreme. The v14 is nice as well but I personally just don't like Inmotion
Great review 👍
Thanks Patrick!
Bro has been doing some curls
carrying EUCs
What pressure do you used for your tire on the extreme ? Excellent review Wrong way thanks !
When is the Extreme / V14 / Patton / S16 coming then? Shame the new T4 Pro and T4 Max don't have smart BMS (that I'm aware of!)
Awesome wheel but it's so much better with a linkage upgrade from Vince Ramirez you end up with a spring that is 650lbs instead of the Begode 1300lbs and a better quality shock no bottom outs as it's more linear and smooth as
Inmotion needs that pedal angle/turn feature. I feel so uncomfortable when the pedals dip in turns
Like your review, and i have the wheel. One ? The app from BEGODE, i can´t get other language to work but Chinese… I love this wheel. Started out with the MSX, then the Veteran Sherman, and now this. The worst wheel for me was the Sherman. To much Wong with it.
Bonde fra CrossAmok's videoer???
As someone that lives in the south, I feel at home with his outfit
I've just got my Extreme. Is it normal for it to be a bit wobbly when accelerating and braking extremely hard? Or do I just need to get used to it?
Hi dude just a question . A guy is try to sell a veteran Sherman of 2020 and it only has 63 miles on it . Do you recomend to buy it as my first wheel at 2024 ? Thanks
Damn! Such detailed review! Nice!
Thx!!!
Is there a good budget EUC to learn on and still be able to do free style tricks? I want the V14 or this Extreme but wonder if I should start out on something cheaper and lighter. Learning to ride it and doing tricks shouldn't be a problem for me.
Begode t4 is the answer
@@spencerbloodworth I just looked up the T4 and it looks promising. I might wait for the T4 Max release. The Falcon also looks fun.
@@KyleKick909 try to find a used t4 somewhere if you can. I just sold mine for $1000. Low price entry into the hobby and it’s a pretty powerful wheel
As of right now, price and specs is almost identical to the commander mini but which one is better?
i have one it s an amazing wheel i have a cut on a jump with it ( wheeler failed not the wheel ) 0 issue
begode things, we always must buy stuff to complete the wheel :(
I dont think race mode effects top speed, just the current control to the motor. I get the same top speed in both modes.
I really wish Begode/EB would add field weakening to the Commander Mini and the speed readings on sll their modern wheels.
I don't like race mode.I keep it off of it
Your wire at the front light is damaged I can see cobber... might want to do something about it before it corrode.
Yeah I think it happened during disassembly. Thx!
what's the difference between options:
- 50E battery & spring shock
- 50GB battery & air shock
- 50S battery & spring shock
50s battery has higher performance with less voltage sag, definitely the best option
what about the shock (air vs spring)?
@@joelbadmintoncali I prefer spring since it can't leak like an airshock, but either is fine really
@@user-bp5py6bh3gthanks
Thanks for the video!
Witaj, chciałem zapytać o poradę. Jaki jednokołowiec najlepiej sprawdzi się w jeździe po piasku? Zależy mi aby móc przejechać przez wydmę dzielącą wejście na plażę od strontu, Po po pokonaniu tego dystansu przemieszczał bym się tylko po stroncie dopóki nie zadecydował bym by opuścić plażę
Got my extreme last week, 120 miles so far and my first crash (going about 10mph) bent both pedals significantly. Still rideable but slightly disappointing
Argh annoying :/ hope you get well soon! Bummer about the pedals :(
@mr_wrongway Thanks for this review. But, could you please make the same review for v14? I was riding inmotions for years now due to its safety and stuff. Currently I'm riding v11 and looking for an upgrade. I'm a bit scared of beegode due to its problems in the past, so would like to hear something in regards to v14
Modern Begode wheels are fine and safe, but the V14 is a great wheel.
Well does it have PWM tiltback? I am bit confussed from the Begode app settings :D. One of our riders here he has Extreme and his motherboard and power distribution boards died after 1600 km. And he is really a calm rider. He is very disapointed...
It does have PWM tiltback, all modern wheels do
How do I turn off the speed limit on the Extreme using the app? Does it only go 25 km/h when it's new?
There’s an app setting „turn off level 2 alarm” which you have to select :)
@@mr_wrongwaygreat...i try it tommorow
I have discovered an issue. The Airplane transport rules and regulations insist, quite correctly, that the wheel must be isolated so that the baggage handlers cannot inadvertently turn it on. (Here's looking at you, King Song). Please provide an isolation switch to turn it off.
They also require certification of the batteries.
Surprising Begode from Zero to Hero..
does it charge 100%? my extreme only goes. 96%(131.7v)
Cette roue est géniale ❤
Hi Adam:-)
Your Extreme has the 50GB cells?
Yes!
@@mr_wrongway So i dont have to worry about getting the more expensive 50S version?😅 Yours seem to move like a rocket😃
Nice cow suit 😂
He/She/They/It did a decent review of this EUC
Thanks for the review, I was waiting for it!
Let me ask one question, I am between v14 and extreme for city communting EUC (10km one way) and do some tricks or light off-road, which one do you recommend and why? Let me know if aome EUC wouls fit better my use case
V14, probably best feeling EUC on the market currently
Hey thanks for the SuperThanks! The V14 is more comfy and practical for city commuting. Also feels lighter. If you can swallow the price it might be more comfy for your use case
@@mr_wrongway thank you for the answer!
My only worry is the V14 range, I feel like extreme will give some more range, what do you think?
@@NikivitaGet a quick charger and the 50s battery packs and you can charge up to 20 Amps. That’s much lighter than carrying excessive battery weight, depending upon your needs.
My favorite thing about the V14 is ‘Dual Battery Mode’ where you can remove 2 of the 4 batteries to lighten up the wheel for increased agility and maneuverability. The 50S batteries appear to be a worthwhile upgrade, since it doesn’t work on the v14GB variant.
I would vote for Extreme 50S for city communiting between the two, 1, higher top speed 80+ and V14 only 70km/h; 2, V14 range is very dispointing with the 4000w hunger motor;
Hi Adam. I'm guessing that overall, you'd prefer the Extreme over the V14. Are there any performance areas where the angry V14 is stronger? 😊
It’s a different product. They both are great in their respective areas. To answer your question - I believe the V14 has more torque, a better trolley handle, better lighting, and a very fun, lighter feeling ride :)
@mr_wrongway I bought my daughter the V14 (love it) and my Extreme is about three weeks out (excited). I'm thinking a Lynx might not be too far off. Thank you for your thoughts. Be well.
Cow suit…..😊
blue def looks better, though maybe purple for the hair. Thanks for the wrong vids. they cost me moneis since it makes me buy stuff lol
At 6:25 deep soft sand is what I’m concerned about being able to go through where I ride.
Honestly the extreme is such a great wheel, it just lacks that little quality build to make it perfect. Im just upset how begode firmware making the power button kill your Board for absolutely no reason, atleast new firmware should fix this issue according to begode.
That's been fixed for like 6 months now 😅
@@user-bp5py6bh3g nope. My firmware wasnt from 6months ago.
Anybody else have pillar break?
Someone's been working out
I think it's because the unicicles are getting heavier and heavier... 🥵
2:20 so is the special offer already over? 😅
Until 15th of July!
Are you sure it has active balancing?
A blue diode pops up every now and then and then it’s balancing. There’s also a point for that in the BMS info. At least that’s what I’ve been told by another rider who talked with Begode
@@mr_wrongway it would be interesting to know if we could charge that wheel to 90% and still have balanced cells. I believe that's at least one aspect of active balancing.
@@nh281 It should be able to balance lower than that, like mid-80%.
I'm contacting Wheel Abuse Services to have that poor wheel taken away from you. And hopefully shipped to me ❤
Skąd wyrwę te czarną poziomą gumę trzymającą pady?
Fairing plate? Dostępne na hulaj.market :)
Yeah I love mine with about 3500 miles on it until I wasn’t looking and hit a curb and bottomed out my tire with 35 psi and cracked my rim
Did it have USB?
It doesn’t :/
Let's gooo!
begode et max teardown!!!
t4 or extreme for street ?
What??? Neither! Those are the two most trail wheels of all the wheels on the market. If you want streets and you're set on 12" rims, then a V14 with street tire or KS S19 might be what you're after
@@solecycle i have an MSP 100v HT, im afraid other wheels will not carry the torque im used to have, also, t4 and extreme are the cheapest 60~70kmh reliable wheels available here
i need a cheap wheel that goes atleast 60~70kmh, with lots of torque and that dont need constant assistance ( the only guy that repairs EUC in Brazil lives more than 1600km from me )
@@reonbomb yeah okay, I could see getting hooked on torque
134 volts versus 100. Extreme all day
wrong way, put a piece of rubber in there - that's what holes are for
What's the problem with the bird noise? It's the Co host
I just couldn’t get my thoughts together 🙈🕊️