The more I hear Trajan talk and his desire for taking on assets, I'm convinced this is going to be a 3 to 5 year or longer plan. Great. Been a Pistons fan since 1969. So I guess a potential 5 more years won't matter. It makes me treasure that much more the enjoyment of our 3 championships. I truly feel for those who haven't experienced it yet.
I don't go back that long but I've been around since the late 80s. I'm curious if u agree with the firing of Williams. I was 100% on board! It was obvious he didn't want to be there and was only motivated by money. He seemed to make things very personal and spiteful with the players and just didn't have his heart in it. We need the right guy to coach this young group. But I'm very happy with who we now have as our president
I think u are wrong I think 2 yrs we go to the Eastern conf Championship game we need to get 1 big name free agent u got too REMEBER we are a young team but we will get much better and I love the pick they got he could off went 2nd pick overall great pick
@@wrongthinkpodcast2140 I don't think anyone else was head and shoulders better. A bunch of college kids averaging 13 points against college athletes isn't more impressive than 18 and 6 at 18 years old against grown men.
@@georgerichardson390 i guess, if agent didn't want player here that are draft prospect, what can we really expect from Free Agency. these are the same agents so this looks to be going down hill real fast for the pistons already.
@@dbuck2862it’s okay tho through every sport on Detroit we had to draft our great players so that what we will continue to do build up and not just buy
I'm praying that Langdon is more like Brad Holmes, the Lions GM, than Troy Weaver. I like that Langdon honed in on his guy and took him, even if many thought taking him at number 5 was too high. Let's go!
@@MrSkittlez313take 313 out your name lame it’s hard to get better when we can’t get free agents to sign every time any of our sports teams have been good it’s been through the draft like the lions now
This is the 1st of many moves. You can't grade an off-season until all of the moves are made. You got take, 97.1 listening, I'm smarter than the people who get paid to do this need to calm it down. Breathe
I like it so far. Holland is a risky pick, but has the highest potential ceiling. Even if he doesn’t pan out, go big or go home. Team needs too much for “safe” middle of the road potential starter.
I have high hopes for Ron after seeing tape and his numbers and only playing one year, but as far as both playing together at only 6'8, who will move to the PF spot and not lose ground?
Boston just won the championship. Their FG% is 48.7% and their 3PT% is 38.8% and their rebounding is 46.3 per game. The Pistons FG% is 46.3%, their 3PT% is 34.8% and their rebounding is 43.3 per game. The Celtics averaged 121 points a game while the Pistons averaged 110 points a game. How do the Pistons get to where the Celtics are?
You answered your own question, if we do the math the percentages aren’t that far off from Boston. 4% away from Boston on the 3 ball. 2.4% on the two ball. The Pistons will be fine.
Fred Vinson Derrick White shot 30% two years ago. Porzinigis was 33% as a rookie. Jaylen Brown was 29% at Cal. Jayson Tatum was 34% at Duke. Jrue Holiday was 31% at UCLA. Horford didn't take over 40 threes until he was 29.
Man if I didn't know better I would have thought he was speaking about Ausar Thompson. Apparently that study and deep dive didn't go deep enough to see Holland only shot 24% from 3 last season. It seems Knecht at 38% + and Williams around 41% were trumped by characters that weren't high enough to get drafted by a team desperately in need of 3pt sharpshooters and floor spacers. Great! That sounds about right.
Lets go Detroit Ron's a nice pick trajan. I think he'll develop a shot in Detroit with fred vinson hire.He has the body and size to play right away.If he gets a decent jump shot kcp 2.0💪🏀🔥
Detroit has NEVER developed shooting in players who can't already shoot. Never. Shooting is one of those things you know early on in life if you're good at it or not.
I don't know if he is stoned, tired out, or just himself - but definitely seems like he needs sleep. If its because he's been putting in extra hours that's a good sign, but he will eventually get his rest when getting people in place he feels comfortable with. If he is 3/4 of what Brad Homes is for the Lions, we will soon see banners in Detroit.
Honestly I like Langdon. He seems like a thoughtful guy, and he’s just getting started. Of course, he’s got the stain of being hired by an owner who is a proven failure in the NBA and complete bullshit artist, but maybe Gores finally just got lucky. Drafting another poor shooter is not a good look, but this pick was not going to solve the mess that is the roster Weaver left in his wake. Here’s hoping Trajan is the right guy to lead this franchise out of this black hole….
Guy just got here and can't get a break, people have no patience. People act like they would have made a better decision but cant even fix simple things going on in they life lol. Have some patience and see his plan 1st. Be thankful atleast you dont have Weaver and Williams.
I pray that he does not become the Pistons' version of Bob Quinn. Quinn always acted like he was smarter than all of the other GMs in the NFL, and he made one "head scratching" after one "head scratching" decision after another.
Call me crazy. I think we shoulda tried to get deni advija. He went for 2 firsts and brogdon i think. I reckon pistons coulda gotten away with offering like a first and a second and someone. Hes on a cheaper contract thn stewart aswell (if 2k is correct)
He didn't even want this pick, he just couldn't trade it because nobody else wanted it either. Holland is a horrible pick for Detroit. He can't shoot, and regardless of shooting coaches, the Pistons organization has NEVER developed shooting in players who can't already shoot. I'm disgusted
This will be an unpopular opinion. Ready ?. This guy is Stan VanGundy in a rented Grant Hill costume. We needed shooters so we drafted a non-shooter. Crazy like a fix ? No. Just another full of sh!t outsider getting Gores money. "There's no time line " says the guy who wants no time, because it will postpone his getting fired. I'm sad that Cade will get his first ring in Oklahoma City, or Dallas. Gores needs to sell this team and slink away. BTW, fans having a positive attitude does win games. Winning games causes fans to have a positive attitude. The internet has that backwards. I'm so disappointed that he didn't draft Donavan Clingan. Go ahead and roll your eyes...just like when the Lions didn't draft Tom Brady. How did your positive attitude help you that time ?
Horrible pick!!! Why would u draft another wing that can't shoot and I just found out he didn't even workout for the Pistons smh....I can see Trajan losing his job on this pick...soon 7:18
Soon as Joe D got chased out of town the ship sunk. He wasn't a perfect GM, but it seemed to me that the Team at least competed. This group I watched last year doesn't have a lick of talent. Cade is the only exception I guess. I know folks are like Monty this or Monty that. Maybe he wasn't the problem? Maybe, just maybe the players are the issue.
The more I hear Trajan talk and his desire for taking on assets, I'm convinced this is going to be a 3 to 5 year or longer plan. Great. Been a Pistons fan since 1969. So I guess a potential 5 more years won't matter. It makes me treasure that much more the enjoyment of our 3 championships. I truly feel for those who haven't experienced it yet.
I don't go back that long but I've been around since the late 80s. I'm curious if u agree with the firing of Williams. I was 100% on board! It was obvious he didn't want to be there and was only motivated by money. He seemed to make things very personal and spiteful with the players and just didn't have his heart in it. We need the right guy to coach this young group. But I'm very happy with who we now have as our president
My mom was born 1969 😂
I think u are wrong I think 2 yrs we go to the Eastern conf Championship game we need to get 1 big name free agent u got too REMEBER we are a young team but we will get much better and I love the pick they got he could off went 2nd pick overall great pick
@@stevededivanovic3824 Dig it. I can get with that.
it just feels so refreshing to listen to him speak. transparency and therefore creating accountability for himself
Finally an honest president
How do you know he's being honest?
@bluelantern5241 No other Gm has even acknowledged that agents don't want their players here in Detroit .
@@Mf__Bucketwell he evryone knows that now so he kinda hast to say that
@@Mjiw-hn2zmlol Troy never said it.
@@bluelantern5241I mean he literally s compared himself to a defensive powerhouse (to which one was a champion lol)
Cannot remember the last Pistons GM to be as candid and give answers that made sense more than half the time
He nailed the press conference.
Lol this dude is like Shakespeare compared to Troy Weaver.
@@theciakilledjfk5973 🤣🤣🤣 true story.
Too bad he didn't nail the pick
@@wrongthinkpodcast2140 I don't think anyone else was head and shoulders better. A bunch of college kids averaging 13 points against college athletes isn't more impressive than 18 and 6 at 18 years old against grown men.
@@wrongthinkpodcast2140there was no pick to “nail” in this draft 😭
“A lot of agents didn’t want to send players here.”
What a disgrace for a once-proud organization.
Gotta use that as motivation. Detroit Vs Everybody!!!
@@georgerichardson390 i guess, if agent didn't want player here that are draft prospect, what can we really expect from Free Agency. these are the same agents so this looks to be going down hill real fast for the pistons already.
Who cares.... that's them being stupid turning down millions of dollars...lol
@@dbuck2862it’s okay tho through every sport on Detroit we had to draft our great players so that what we will continue to do build up and not just buy
@@dbuck2862it's been like that no need to freak out
If Ausar and Ron get a shot its wraps
That's a big IF!
Actually it’s not both of their mechanics are solid. Plus Kawhi couldn’t shoot comin into the league
@@boscocfh shooting is actually one of the easiest things to learn as long as the player is willing to put the work in.
No it is a huge IF
Ausar shot 18.6% last year from 3 lmfao
@@Who.smoov_
@@boscocfhnot with vinson
I love the direct, no BS approach.
Reminds me of the Jahmyr Gibbs pick
I'm praying that Langdon is more like Brad Holmes, the Lions GM, than Troy Weaver. I like that Langdon honed in on his guy and took him, even if many thought taking him at number 5 was too high. Let's go!
Mmmm, 🤔 Detroit sports team taking a player higher than expected??.. now that sounds familiar..
@@thewizardofoz511he was expected number one since Jr in highschool
@@Jamar-lg9ob🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢🧢
He can't shoot, and the Pistons have NEVER developed shooting in a young player who can't already shoot.
@@kwyatt261 Fred have best in game
I like hearing him speak over Troy weaver
It’s really messed up how the agents won’t send players to workout with us
Because the organization is a joke
Don't be a dogshit franchise for 20 years and this won't be an issue. It's the Piston's own damn fault.
@@MrSkittlez313take 313 out your name lame it’s hard to get better when we can’t get free agents to sign every time any of our sports teams have been good it’s been through the draft like the lions now
@@Starky25 hasn’t been 20 years that’s since we won the championship went to 7 straight ecf in that decade try again
I love this G.M.
This is the 1st of many moves. You can't grade an off-season until all of the moves are made. You got take, 97.1 listening, I'm smarter than the people who get paid to do this need to calm it down. Breathe
I like it so far. Holland is a risky pick, but has the highest potential ceiling. Even if he doesn’t pan out, go big or go home. Team needs too much for “safe” middle of the road potential starter.
I have high hopes for Ron after seeing tape and his numbers and only playing one year, but as far as both playing together at only 6'8, who will move to the PF spot and not lose ground?
Boston just won the championship. Their FG% is 48.7% and their 3PT% is 38.8% and their rebounding is 46.3 per game. The Pistons FG% is 46.3%, their 3PT% is 34.8% and their rebounding is 43.3 per game. The Celtics averaged 121 points a game while the Pistons averaged 110 points a game. How do the Pistons get to where the Celtics are?
You answered your own question, if we do the math the percentages aren’t that far off from Boston. 4% away from Boston on the 3 ball. 2.4% on the two ball. The Pistons will be fine.
Make 5 more 3s per 100 taken and we are a better shooting team lol the margin is so small in pro sports
Draft a player that improves like Tatum and Brown. Which we hopefully just did these past 2 years.
Fred Vinson
Derrick White shot 30% two years ago.
Porzinigis was 33% as a rookie.
Jaylen Brown was 29% at Cal.
Jayson Tatum was 34% at Duke.
Jrue Holiday was 31% at UCLA.
Horford didn't take over 40 threes until he was 29.
This guy seems like he just woke up from a nap. I think I might be spoiled by Brad Holmes energy level..
Does this mean that Detroit isn't going after Tobias this summer? Or do they get him and let Holland develop more slowly off the bench? 🤔
Still get him. Tobias is more of a PF. Ron will still need some time. But the goal is internal development.
Man if I didn't know better I would have thought he was speaking about Ausar Thompson. Apparently that study and deep dive didn't go deep enough to see Holland only shot 24% from 3 last season. It seems Knecht at 38% + and Williams around 41% were trumped by characters that weren't high enough to get drafted by a team desperately in need of 3pt sharpshooters and floor spacers. Great! That sounds about right.
Did you watch the video? He mentioned how the study and deep dive talked about Hollands shooting
I don’t get why they pick this player when Auser Thompson is basically the same G/F defensive player with no jump shot.
We won 14 games. Team needs talent. You draft talent. 2-3 years from now team is going to look a lot different
We need a solid small foward. We need a pg that dont need a screen every possession. I cant wait to see my guys run some scrimmages.
Lets go Detroit Ron's a nice pick trajan. I think he'll develop a shot in Detroit with fred vinson hire.He has the body and size to play right away.If he gets a decent jump shot kcp 2.0💪🏀🔥
possible comment bro horrible comparison though Holland is way more crafty and athletic
Detroit has NEVER developed shooting in players who can't already shoot. Never. Shooting is one of those things you know early on in life if you're good at it or not.
@@kwyatt261Multiple players came in the league as defensive assets and eventually developed their offensive abilities. Quite a long list.
@@Muckduckly The list of guys who came in the league as non shooters and developed into >36% 3 pt shooters is small. They are few and far between.
This is not a 1 yr turnaround. BPA was his goal yr 1. It's will come together soon. Piston vs Everyone
Bro smacked I respect it tho
very impressive press conference..
he need a nap!
I don't know if he is stoned, tired out, or just himself - but definitely seems like he needs sleep. If its because he's been putting in extra hours that's a good sign, but he will eventually get his rest when getting people in place he feels comfortable with. If he is 3/4 of what Brad Homes is for the Lions, we will soon see banners in Detroit.
Doesn’t look like we will be signing Brandon Ingram now what will we do with this cap space get sent draft picks to eat a bad contract?
looks like he just got up from taking a very long nap
Or he just really doesn't want to be here, dude looks quite unhappy. Should'a hired Jalen Rose.
@@bOmBAsTiK you sound ridiculous stfu please
@@bOmBAsTiK I think he's already realized there's nothing he can do to make this team better, so he's just in it for the money until it's over.
If he’s frustrated with not winning he won’t have any problem adjusting to the league with us
Someone should have asked "name one Pelicans player this Stanley Johnson clone could replace" and wait for him to say "none" #dejavu
so agents dont want their players to visit with the Pistons lol A reflection of the damage gores and weaver have done to this once proud franchise !!!
he wants to tank....
seems like protocol when a new GM takes over any team. like clockwork, get the highest upside highest risk player in the draft
I hope Ron works out because I like his game, and if they can improve his shot, mannnn look out!!
Not one.. but two asur thompsons. What a time to be a fan of detroit basketball.
This guys handle is ten times better than ausar’s
Pistons won’t win again for 50 years I don’t believe In this team with no coach
Langdon has a lot of trust in Vinson
Another player who can't shoot...another failed draft imo just ridiculous
If this is how you are starting off we are in trouble.
I wonder if Ron Holland has a high compete level. 🙂
I think Trajan is intelligent and he chose an excellent prospect
NBA should make it mandatory for every prospect to workout for every team at least 2 X…That’s why there is no parity in the NBA
Honestly I like Langdon. He seems like a thoughtful guy, and he’s just getting started. Of course, he’s got the stain of being hired by an owner who is a proven failure in the NBA and complete bullshit artist, but maybe Gores finally just got lucky. Drafting another poor shooter is not a good look, but this pick was not going to solve the mess that is the roster Weaver left in his wake. Here’s hoping Trajan is the right guy to lead this franchise out of this black hole….
So you talked to his teammates and other people about him, but not meet with him
So maybe we can sign some shooters in FA
Guy just got here and can't get a break, people have no patience. People act like they would have made a better decision but cant even fix simple things going on in they life lol. Have some patience and see his plan 1st. Be thankful atleast you dont have Weaver and Williams.
Langdon is so methodical, clearly has what it takes to build a champion
I pray that he does not become the Pistons' version of Bob Quinn. Quinn always acted like he was smarter than all of the other GMs in the NFL, and he made one "head scratching" after one "head scratching" decision after another.
Why are you comparing 2 completely different sports together
@@Lokomotive819that’s why it’s called a comparison.. He’s not comparing the sports he’s comparing the job, The comparison is the job of GM
Trajan already looks broken and he’s only been here 4 weeks
Detroit vs everybody......
I want to believe in this guy but why draft another guy who can't shoot..why???
He looks stoned. That would explain the pick.
Years behind because of dumpster drafting whitmore last year was pick then klingham or whatever the center was this year easy
I hope the team is more exciting than that guy.
His tape flies off the screen. Guy levitates. No visit required.
Call me crazy. I think we shoulda tried to get deni advija. He went for 2 firsts and brogdon i think. I reckon pistons coulda gotten away with offering like a first and a second and someone. Hes on a cheaper contract thn stewart aswell (if 2k is correct)
I believe in natural shooting ability.
detroit tax
Ron Holland a Trash Pick 🤮🤢 we should of got Donovan
Wrong 😂
We’re screwed
Nah u are
Big time. It’s more tanking and trusting ping pong balls
He didn't even want this pick, he just couldn't trade it because nobody else wanted it either. Holland is a horrible pick for Detroit. He can't shoot, and regardless of shooting coaches, the Pistons organization has NEVER developed shooting in players who can't already shoot. I'm disgusted
This guy will squeeze every penny from Tom gores and will be gone in 4 years as well.
Stoner
A lot of wellspoken bullshit.
This will be an unpopular opinion. Ready ?.
This guy is Stan VanGundy in a rented Grant Hill costume.
We needed shooters so we drafted a non-shooter.
Crazy like a fix ? No. Just another full of sh!t outsider getting Gores money.
"There's no time line " says the guy who wants no time, because it will postpone his getting fired.
I'm sad that Cade will get his first ring in Oklahoma City, or Dallas.
Gores needs to sell this team and slink away.
BTW, fans having a positive attitude does win games. Winning games causes fans to have a positive attitude. The internet has that backwards. I'm so disappointed that he didn't draft Donavan Clingan.
Go ahead and roll your eyes...just like when the Lions didn't draft Tom Brady. How did your positive attitude help you that time ?
This dude looks like he's in so over head it isn't funny. The NBA been trash since mid 2000s
Horrible pick!!! Why would u draft another wing that can't shoot and I just found out he didn't even workout for the Pistons smh....I can see Trajan losing his job on this pick...soon 7:18
Horrible pick.. this franchise is down the drain ..
Soon as Joe D got chased out of town the ship sunk. He wasn't a perfect GM, but it seemed to me that the Team at least competed. This group I watched last year doesn't have a lick of talent. Cade is the only exception I guess. I know folks are like Monty this or Monty that. Maybe he wasn't the problem? Maybe, just maybe the players are the issue.
I get no sense that TL has a clue he knows what he's doing. "A deep dive over the past few days" 😮😮😮???
Holy crap this just feels off af!!
Another guard who can’t shoot
guard i heard he was a PF.. He listed at PF. what is he really a PF, Wing, or Guard.. This is a bad sign...
Who cares this draft was trash anyway 😂 see what the young man can do ...we not winning for awhile anyway