My great great uncle is the last on the pitch for Sunderland. Jackie Mordue. I only have a few photos of him and a couple of cigarette cards. His brother, Mick, was killed at Gallipoli (my great grandfather) and has no known grave but is on the Hellas memorial.
@@vincentmcnabb939 Sunderland, Rangers and Aston Villa were certainly the three biggest clubs in the world AT THAT TIME, but you don't have to get all cry baby and defensive about it... The Irish club you mentioned were a close 4th along with Everton.
@@WashingtonSAFC Celtic were clearly the dominant club in Scotland in that period 1900-1920. You don’t need take my word on that - simply look at Celtic’s trophy count in that period; much superior to that of Rangers. The Irish club, Belfast Celtic, were also by far the dominant club in Ireland then, too.
Great to see the legendary Fred Rinder there, behind the Villa lads as they come onto the field. Among Rinder's many contributions to Villa and the game, he was to start the tradition of singing "Abide With Me" before FA Cup finals. His feeling was that it was a popular song in the trenches of WW1 and it would resonate with post-War crowds, bringing a sense of dignity and sobriety to the Grand Occasion. Not only did Villa give League Football to the world, their trophy count was unsurpassed for over three quarters of the twentieth century - the original giants of the game. Hopefully Villa will be back at the top soon, ruling the roost, putting each and every plastic Jonny-come-lately club to the sword. A shout out to Sunderland, too, a great club currently going through tough times.
Incredible footage of what was a remarkable season. Us and Villa both going for the league and Cup that season. As a Sunderland fan to see such legends as Charlie Thompson and Charlie Buchan in action is bliss, thanks for posting
Brilliant footage of a proper sporting contest. Two massive clubs in the battle of the giants of the time while Woolwich Arsenal, then just an ordinary club, were relegated that season - huge respect from a Gooner.
@@kingdomofgeorgia1751 , Numero Uno from famous Italian satiric comic 'Alan Ford'. Numero uno was main character, leader of TNT group. His age was secret, but reportedly he was more than 1000 years old.
well researched Peter . sadly i wonder how many in the 126,000 crowd from the Birmingham and North East areas would ever see 1919 , after the Trench warfare.
A week earlier in 1913 my team Falkirk won the Scottish cup 2 nil against Raith Rovers,and I was at the game with my dad,I'm 117 yo this year my dad who sadly died 2 years ago he was 139,the funny thing was that our game was in black and white as well like most things were back then ,ps my dad died while taking part in the London marathon,he was running third overall at the time,it was a shock to all the family as well as his 20 yo wife as he was a very fit man for his age.
Even if your not a fan of either club, (Which i am not), this is still remarkable footage, No pundits spewing their opinions, no pyrotechnics, no VAR, just good old fashioned football.
great film. English football 107 yrs ago is way better than many countries nowadays: better pitch, better crowd, better games, better sportsmanship and players..Britain is the beacon of Civilization. From Hong Kong.
@@TheBeeseven It is indeed. The game went down in history {though now lost in the mists of time} as the most brutal cup final anyone had witnessed and Charles Buchan speculated 40 years later that had the game been played in the post-second world war era, his former teammate Charlie Thompson and Villa's Harry Hampton would have been sent off. The crowd were expecting fireworks between Charlie Thompson and Harry Hampton who had previous and sure enough, they began kicking lumps out of each other from the first whistle. Eventually, referee Mr Adams took Thompson's name, though, it's believed not Hampton's. Clem Stephenson had the best chance of the first half but as he shaped to shoot, Charlie Gladwin clattered him for a cast-iron penalty, which you can see at 2:00 on the film. Several Sunderland players began verbally abusing Charlie Wallace as he prepared to take the spot-kick and may well have got to him as he fired tamely wide. It remained the only penalty ever missed in a cup final until John Aldridge joined the club in 1988. Suggestions of heated verbal exchanges as the teams left the field at half time were supported by the game almost falling totally out of control in the second half. Charles Buchan {In his Football monthly annual stated that one of his future press colleagues later recalled it as the most violent game of Football he'd ever seen bar a notorious semi-final between Barnsley and Everton a few years earlier that brought the Yorkshire side's participation in the final into question.} The second half would last an incredible 62 minutes before Mr Adams finally blew for full time. The unfortunate ref would be suspended by the FA for losing control of the game while Thompson and Hampton both sat out the first month of the following season through suspension. When Sunderland won the League title the following week, The FA decided it would be best not to have the two sides meet again so soon in the Charity Shield and scheduled the match as an amateur vs professionals game instead. Curiously enough, Villa and Sunderland each fielded two players in the pro team, including Hampton whose ban took effect after the game.
I'm being always surprised whenever I see Charlie Chaplin movies during the period of 1914-1920, what a good camera management ! But, this match made me surprised again. Lovely. I'm speechless !!!
Brilliant footage, that has to be the earliest film of a FA Cup final, notice all the supporters in the trees. Great result for the villa, unlike this season's league cup final. MCFC CHAMPIONS
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great footage. I believe Villa missed a penalty in the game although it is hard to see. Two top teams of the day it was almost 100 years until the two top teams would play each other in the FA cup final. It was claimed that they were both barred from competing for the Charity shield as they were a bit two rough. A few days later Sunderland beat Villa to win the league title.
1913 Falkirk win the Scottish cup Villa win the FA cup,1957 Falkirk win the Scottish cup Villa win the FA cup,2015 both in the final again and guess what yep both get humped.great footage btw for 1913.
Villa were top of the league at the time and Sunderland second. Only time the top flight, top two teams have contested an FA Cup final. Also attendance 121,000 venue Crystal Palace Park, at the time a world record for a football game. Took Sunderland another 24 years to win the trophy.
@John Saunders Cup Final day didn't become a standalone fixture in the programme until the post-war Television era. Into the 1950s there would have been a full programme of League games on Cup Final day. However, it was always played as near as could to the end of the season. On cup final day 1913 Villa were top of the table but the title wasn't settled until the weekend after the cup final when Sunderland clinched it. Speaking of Villa double winners, they do hold the unique distinction of being the only team to win both major domestic honours on the same day. While playing out the classic 1897 cup final against Everton, League results elsewhere fell in their favour to clinch the title on the same day.
I think the fans and especially the players back then , can now sit down and enjoy watching themselves playing on this video considering it was played 107 years ago in 1913. Hope they are still healthty in 2020.😂😂
if you want to know about how football was played then look up ripping yarns golden Gordon and the managers speech on shorts and their value to football
At least the spectators could identify with their clubs back then. Local boys playing for glory and not for money. Today you have a club owned by a foreign billionaire, a team with players from all around the world who only play in England for money and a league that is more interested in the fans overseas than in the UK fans. It has become an international entertainment business for investors.
Interestingly, Sunderland born, Charlie Wallace missed a penalty for Aston Villa in this match. Furthermore, the next player to miss a spot kick would be John Aldridge 75 years later.
Certainly do mate. There is a painting in the foyer at Roker park of the two teams playing in 1895. It is thought to be the oldest painting of a football match.
@@TheBeeseven The picture in question was actually a painting, quite massive , it is in the foyer at the Stadium of Light. The picture was when Sunderland played at Newcastle road ground and shows 21 of the 22 players. The goalkeeper being the only player not on the picture. The teams played a 4-4 draw at Sunderland's ground in the league. The also played each other in the cup that year in the semi final. Villa won the cup 1m 1895 and later lost it (stolen) Sunderland won the league that year and later became world champions beating Hearts 5-3. The pic is quite popular most art shops sell copies.
@@19sept76 Thanks for the info buddy👍 Hopefully our two great clubs can one day restore our rightful place at the top of English football once all the sugar daddy owners get fed up and leave. Well we can dream anyway 😁
AMAZING FOOTAGE IMAGINE BEING ABLE TO VISIT ANY TIME IN HISTORY! TALK ABOUT A FASCINATING ADVENTURE! 1913 .COR.I DON'T KNOW WHO MADE THE FINAL THEN! 1912 BRADFORD,BARNSLEY OR WEST BROM? 1914 WAS BURNLEY 1-0 LIVERPOOL.? 1913? CAN'T NAME EITHER FINALIST?
My great great uncle is the last on the pitch for Sunderland. Jackie Mordue. I only have a few photos of him and a couple of cigarette cards. His brother, Mick, was killed at Gallipoli (my great grandfather) and has no known grave but is on the Hellas memorial.
Absolutely incredible footage considering it's over a hundred years old. The Villa go marching on!
Thank you for posting this. I am Sunderland fan and had no idea this footage existed good luck in Prem Villa
Amazing how much more organized everything looked in contrast to a decade before. The stadium looks pro, huge crowd, decent pitch...so cool!!
Decent pitch because nobody played on this pitch all season. It was reserved only for the FA cup final.
no adidas no nike no tactic just pure football and no bullshits shove down our throats like today's games
@@fbi..nasa. miserable sod.
@@zafmo9829 he aint wrong tho
Why is there like 60 yards between the goal and the fans? I'd be pissed if those were my seats.
Speed correction just brings everything to life again. It's brilliant
Aston Villa and Sunderland, The original big clubs of their day!
And had been for a long time.
Sunderland have won the same amount of league titles as us
If you don’t consider Celtic and Rangers, perhaps.
@@vincentmcnabb939 Sunderland, Rangers and Aston Villa were certainly the three biggest clubs in the world AT THAT TIME, but you don't have to get all cry baby and defensive about it...
The Irish club you mentioned were a close 4th along with Everton.
@@WashingtonSAFC Celtic were clearly the dominant club in Scotland in that period 1900-1920. You don’t need take my word on that - simply look at Celtic’s trophy count in that period; much superior to that of Rangers. The Irish club, Belfast Celtic, were also by far the dominant club in Ireland then, too.
Great to see the legendary Fred Rinder there, behind the Villa lads as they come onto the field. Among Rinder's many contributions to Villa and the game, he was to start the tradition of singing "Abide With Me" before FA Cup finals. His feeling was that it was a popular song in the trenches of WW1 and it would resonate with post-War crowds, bringing a sense of dignity and sobriety to the Grand Occasion.
Not only did Villa give League Football to the world, their trophy count was unsurpassed for over three quarters of the twentieth century - the original giants of the game. Hopefully Villa will be back at the top soon, ruling the roost, putting each and every plastic Jonny-come-lately club to the sword.
A shout out to Sunderland, too, a great club currently going through tough times.
Incredible footage of what was a remarkable season. Us and Villa both going for the league and Cup that season. As a Sunderland fan to see such legends as Charlie Thompson and Charlie Buchan in action is bliss, thanks for posting
Ah Charles Buchan - loved the annuals bearing his name - the books always fell apart by April, though!
@@andystoker6961 much like Sunderland's seasons
Top two didn't meet in a cup final again for another 73 years.
They could both play in today's Premier League.
An extremely so fantastic video of this match of 106 years!!!This is one of the true history of the sport!!!:-D
This is now the site of the Crystal Palace Athletics Stadium.
Brilliant footage of a proper sporting contest. Two massive clubs in the battle of the giants of the time while Woolwich Arsenal, then just an ordinary club, were relegated that season - huge respect from a Gooner.
Very gracious of you to say.
Thanks
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Fascinating, love these old films of footie.
Charlie Buchan is the lad in fine defensive action at 1:40. Inside forwards helped in defense back then as well!
Amazing footage. Never seen the lads play in this final before. 🔴⚪
Harry Hampton 2nd in line amongst those leading the Villa out. To this day our leading league goalscorer.
Incredible footage. Quite a number of these poor men in the pictures would be sent off to war a year later. Its nice to see footage from before then
I remember this game.
There were fantastic players.
The greatest game ever in football history.
Good memory.
Me too, you must have seen me; I was the one in the flat cap.
How old are you Sir?
@@kingdomofgeorgia1751 , Numero Uno from famous Italian satiric comic 'Alan Ford'. Numero uno was main character, leader of TNT group. His age was secret, but reportedly he was more than 1000 years old.
@@sonjavukoja4936 OK!
How old are you?
20 out of 22 players i could check..none of them died in ww1.
goalscorer died sept 18th 1925, 2 players lived till 1970s.
well researched Peter . sadly i wonder how many in the 126,000 crowd from the Birmingham and North East areas would ever see 1919 , after the Trench warfare.
Excellent research - answering the first question I thought of. Thank you for doing this - interesting result of your research
A week earlier in 1913 my team Falkirk won the Scottish cup 2 nil against Raith Rovers,and I was at the game with my dad,I'm 117 yo this year my dad who sadly died 2 years ago he was 139,the funny thing was that our game was in black and white as well like most things were back then ,ps my dad died while taking part in the London marathon,he was running third overall at the time,it was a shock to all the family as well as his 20 yo wife as he was a very fit man for his age.
@@willbrown3094 where did the crowd figure from? Nowhere near 126000.
@@johngreenhorn8853 are you serious John?
This film is of excellent quality - unlike most of cup finals filmed in this era.
Even if your not a fan of either club, (Which i am not), this is still remarkable footage, No pundits spewing their opinions, no pyrotechnics, no VAR, just good old fashioned football.
great film. English football 107 yrs ago is way better than many countries nowadays: better pitch, better crowd, better games, better sportsmanship and players..Britain is the beacon of Civilization. From Hong Kong.
That's very nice of you to say that. Thank you. From a lifelong Aston Villa fan.
@@TheBeeseven No worries. Please give your support on HK BNO equality bill, we Hongkongers are now under direct rule of the CCP tyranny😭
Impressive footage. Best to Villa. Bhoys 1888 🍀
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If VAR was available then, that would be been a nailed on pen for Villa 🤣 great video
It was. Charlie Wallace missed it and apparently so did the cameraman.
@@TheGiantKillers
That true? Great work if it is mate
@@TheBeeseven It is indeed. The game went down in history {though now lost in the mists of time} as the most brutal cup final anyone had witnessed and Charles Buchan speculated 40 years later that had the game been played in the post-second world war era, his former teammate Charlie Thompson and Villa's Harry Hampton would have been sent off. The crowd were expecting fireworks between Charlie Thompson and Harry Hampton who had previous and sure enough, they began kicking lumps out of each other from the first whistle. Eventually, referee Mr Adams took Thompson's name, though, it's believed not Hampton's. Clem Stephenson had the best chance of the first half but as he shaped to shoot, Charlie Gladwin clattered him for a cast-iron penalty, which you can see at 2:00 on the film. Several Sunderland players began verbally abusing Charlie Wallace as he prepared to take the spot-kick and may well have got to him as he fired tamely wide. It remained the only penalty ever missed in a cup final until John Aldridge joined the club in 1988. Suggestions of heated verbal exchanges as the teams left the field at half time were supported by the game almost falling totally out of control in the second half. Charles Buchan {In his Football monthly annual stated that one of his future press colleagues later recalled it as the most violent game of Football he'd ever seen bar a notorious semi-final between Barnsley and Everton a few years earlier that brought the Yorkshire side's participation in the final into question.} The second half would last an incredible 62 minutes before Mr Adams finally blew for full time. The unfortunate ref would be suspended by the FA for losing control of the game while Thompson and Hampton both sat out the first month of the following season through suspension. When Sunderland won the League title the following week, The FA decided it would be best not to have the two sides meet again so soon in the Charity Shield and scheduled the match as an amateur vs professionals game instead. Curiously enough, Villa and Sunderland each fielded two players in the pro team, including Hampton whose ban took effect after the game.
@@TheGiantKillers
Amazing knowledge that. Thank you so much.
I'm being always surprised whenever I see Charlie Chaplin movies during the period of 1914-1920, what a good camera management ! But, this match made me surprised again. Lovely. I'm speechless !!!
The Spiritual home of Crystal Palace FC. Thanks for sharing this... COYP!
Rinder and Ramsay both in the frame? An incredible document of football history.
Unbelievable footage indeed....
immagini splendide, di una qualità eccezionale!
Brilliant footage, that has to be the earliest film of a FA Cup final, notice all the supporters in the trees. Great result for the villa, unlike this season's league cup final. MCFC CHAMPIONS
Its not the earliest but definitely the best footage of that era.
Unlike MCity, this trophy was won without cheating.
@@Macca-rb5ok 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣cry more loser. Really hope our magnificent treble achievement last season pissed right on your chips. The worlds best football team living rent free inside your empty head
Great footage.
Stunning footage given its age.
Poignant to think everyone in the film is no longer with us 😢
Amazing picture quality
Great match ! I was there brings back memories 😊 UTV 💜💙
Note the back-heel at 1:46. The original Cruyff turn?
great footage. I believe Villa missed a penalty in the game although it is hard to see. Two top teams of the day it was almost 100 years until the two top teams would play each other in the FA cup final. It was claimed that they were both barred from competing for the Charity shield as they were a bit two rough. A few days later Sunderland beat Villa to win the league title.
i'm pretty sure the foul for the penalty is at 2m but the pen itself is not filmed which is strange
Imagens melhor do que às de hoje.
This pictures are just jewels for eternity ....
That Villa back four was solid ✌
Fifty years before I was born, right to the day.
1913年的影片保存得太好了！加上片中足球員的動作、表現，我甚至覺得像是一段模仿重拍的影片！
good quality, could actually perceive some football being played great footage
1:34
Oohhh, a bit of skill there.
Villa probably had a better team then than we do now .
Played at Crystal Palace
La narración es increíble! 😁👍
I remember this game !
where the hell 121,000 people were packed? hardly 40,000 had place
1913 Falkirk win the Scottish cup Villa win the FA cup,1957 Falkirk win the Scottish cup Villa win the FA cup,2015 both in the final again and guess what yep both get humped.great footage btw for 1913.
Film is surprisingly good quality - I had expected much more jerkiness
Just wondering what the attendance was , no big stands , but it's fully packed out !
Got to be 50,000
É muito lindo a historia do futebol , sport muito antigo, amo futebol
Somos 2
to think one day the 2024 final will be just as old and forgotten as this one
AW.FANTASTIC DAYS!
A lot of these players from both sides would have lost their lives in the next few years during WW1
No martin tyler?
Brilliant film.
Everyone in that film is almost certainly dead now.
Sobering thought.
And a lot of them in the following 5 years.
But the sprit will never die
All reincarnated
Duncan Mcleoud from the clan Mcleoud still remembers this match☻
Villa were top of the league at the time and Sunderland second. Only time the top flight, top two teams have contested an FA Cup final. Also attendance 121,000 venue Crystal Palace Park, at the time a world record for a football game. Took Sunderland another 24 years to win the trophy.
It was the only time the top two teams had contested the cup final until 1986 when Everton and Liverpool met in the final.
@John Saunders They didn't. Sunderland overhauled them to win the title.
@John Saunders "at the time". Sunderland won the championship by 4 points.
@John Saunders Cup Final day didn't become a standalone fixture in the programme until the post-war Television era. Into the 1950s there would have been a full programme of League games on Cup Final day. However, it was always played as near as could to the end of the season. On cup final day 1913 Villa were top of the table but the title wasn't settled until the weekend after the cup final when Sunderland clinched it. Speaking of Villa double winners, they do hold the unique distinction of being the only team to win both major domestic honours on the same day. While playing out the classic 1897 cup final against Everton, League results elsewhere fell in their favour to clinch the title on the same day.
I think the fans and especially the players back then , can now sit down and enjoy watching themselves playing on this video considering it was played 107 years ago in 1913. Hope they are still healthty in 2020.😂😂
seriously
what?
ASTON VILLA AND FIORENTINA
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Thanks Anna. utv
if you want to know about how football was played then look up ripping yarns golden Gordon and the managers speech on shorts and their value to football
Shorts aren’t necessary!
Que lindo tesoro que es éste vídeo
Fascinating !
@nicoladavies6264- No pathetic ‘taking the knee’ in those days. We had a country to be proud of back then.
What's that odd looking building behind the goal on the left?
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What's with the Sunderland player at @2:33 lol
Was there the offside rule in that time?
Don't think so.
This must have been the last final before Wembley became the venue.
(@markhemming 318) .....the last FA Cup Final before Wembley was 9 years later!
I bet "M'yeah, see?" was heard a lot that day.
James Milner still would get subbed on at the 80th minute to see the game out
Old is gold
this is gold
Em pensar que em 1913 o Clube Atlético Mineiro, do Brasil, Belo Horizonte, Minas Gerais, já tinha 5 anos.
Bla blá blá blá blá blá blá
Ive played one this ground regularly and one can take that away from me
At least the spectators could identify with their clubs back then. Local boys playing for glory and not for money. Today you have a club owned by a foreign billionaire, a team with players from all around the world who only play in England for money and a league that is more interested in the fans overseas than in the UK fans. It has become an international entertainment business for investors.
O onze era o mais habilidoso
IT'S OK FOR THE PERIOD, BUT I COULDN'T SEE THE GOAL.
None of these players and people in the crowd are alive anymore...
You must be fun at parties :) I thought the same though. It looks so peaceful yet in a year from then many boys were sitting in trenches in France :(
No shit, Sherlock,,,,
126,000 there as well !
I wonder how many of the spectators and players joined up and lost their lives over the next 5 years!
Interestingly, Sunderland born, Charlie Wallace missed a penalty for Aston Villa in this match. Furthermore, the next player to miss a spot kick would be John Aldridge 75 years later.
is there a ball there can't see it
Makes me proud as a Villa fan to have that heritage. I suppose you Black Cats feel the same.
Certainly do mate. There is a painting in the foyer at Roker park of the two teams playing in 1895. It is thought to be the oldest painting of a football match.
As a Villa man, I have great respect for Sunderland, Historical big club.
@@19sept76
Roker Park isn't there anymore is it? I'm a villa fan would love to see that picture.
@@TheBeeseven The picture in question was actually a painting, quite massive , it is in the foyer at the Stadium of Light. The picture was when Sunderland played at Newcastle road ground and shows 21 of the 22 players. The goalkeeper being the only player not on the picture. The teams played a 4-4 draw at Sunderland's ground in the league. The also played each other in the cup that year in the semi final. Villa won the cup 1m 1895 and later lost it (stolen) Sunderland won the league that year and later became world champions beating Hearts 5-3. The pic is quite popular most art shops sell copies.
@@19sept76
Thanks for the info buddy👍
Hopefully our two great clubs can one day restore our rightful place at the top of English football once all the sugar daddy owners get fed up and leave. Well we can dream anyway 😁
I was there Gillan the villan behind the goal that’s when men were men & so was the women cheers for the colours Villa Antrim eagles 1861
I bet you all went nuts when you scored !
I wonder how many of those young men lost their lives on the fields of Flanders a year later?
Love the ref , practically wearing a suit !
AMAZING FOOTAGE IMAGINE BEING ABLE TO VISIT ANY TIME IN HISTORY! TALK ABOUT A FASCINATING ADVENTURE! 1913 .COR.I DON'T KNOW WHO MADE THE FINAL THEN! 1912 BRADFORD,BARNSLEY OR WEST BROM? 1914 WAS BURNLEY 1-0 LIVERPOOL.? 1913? CAN'T NAME EITHER FINALIST?
It was hard to get to the toilet I can tell you bursting or what
0:10
I thought the one with the ball was Chiellini. 😂😂😂
Funny he looks the same to this day
That's a sharply dressed referee!
107 years ago.
Crystal palace stadium?
Why they never filmed all the fucking game? Recovery the battery!
offside. oh no that was his broken femur flying offside.
🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣
Attendance: one million
play in 0.75x you'll be able watching real football match
Just like any football game today, except for the players rolling on the ground as if they'd been shot after any slight contact...
I remember it well
Never forget thT 😆😆😆😆😁😆😆😆😆🤤🤤🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
No man united no Chelsea no man city no Liverpool no arsenal no totinham... History
Does anyone in the video still alive ?
The ref wore a suit! LOL