It should be a tech, but on the other hand, despite most of us wanting consistency, we also don't want a tech unless ABSOLUTELY necessary to determine the outcome of a game. Of course with refs being human, they also have different tolerances and even as much as they try not to, they will have biases and that affects who gives or does not give a tech in a situation like this.
@@mike_majorarather, can't allow himself to go down that easily. He has to be bracing for a box out. If that is a foul there is gonna be no one left at the end of the game
I agree that he didn't shove him with much force, but look at their legs. Lively tripped him up and he had to fall to protect himself. I don't call that a flop.
@@penkima4923 he knows he threw Lively, tried to set it up like he was gonna get retaliated and flopped for the refs attention. luka baits for fouls like this as well as goes up on the refs with no consequences. he's lucky he didnt get tech'd
It seems that no one discussed the matter when Jokic complained to the referee. Luka was scolded for staring at the referee several times and then the media reported it... Several times today Jokic did not go back to defend and just kept watching the referee! Follow Gafford was blocked, many players put it on his neck, and the referee let it go... All because of his unstoppable performance on the offensive end...
1:24 only Lively right hand was in contact with Jokic which was bent and at no point stiff or straight. There’s no way such a smaller player could send a behemoth such as Jokic flying that far without generating some kind of momentum. I have seen players like Tatum get technical simply staring at the Referee but this Dude goes into full rage but didn’t get ‘T’d up.
Because Jokic rarely complains, so he gets a pass for complaining at least once every 10 games. Luka on the other hand, complains on every possession, he complains to his teammates, the guy is just born to complain
@@draspen He does often complain but I kinda get it cuz dude sometimes gets pulled on the jersey, straight up slapped, pushed and no foul call I would also be mad
@@Swish_Squad bruh jokic hooked him in the neck with his arm… it’s right there. My point was if they didn’t call that they’re definitely not calling a flop on a push
@@SeanKlin-x6ojokic and his fan base ore oddly cocky for 1 championship ring. Niggas talking about a dynasty and goat center 😂😂😂😂 all that shit over with. Another dirk
Ok… and Luka is no exaggeration the biggest cry baby the sport has ever seen. He gets a shorter leash because he wants to be a whiney punk. He did that to himself
maybe you should go to the doctor, have your eyes checked? if you look closely you can see that the push itself was not the reason he fell, he stumbled over #5 leg
There’s a huge difference between flopping and selling a call. Flopping means you create the illusion of a foul where there really was none, whereas selling a call means you exaggerate a foul that actually happened so the refs make sure to see it.
@@tropicallife4449 being pushed until you lose your balance is not a flop, come on there is a video just watch it the defender pushed him with hands then with full body
Anyone else gets a tech for that. So sick of his flopping. I used to love watching him and now, the flops and trickery to get free throws is all I see. Some people call is “smart” but it’s just…the impurest part of the game these days.
What a ridiculous thread. Jokic gets butchered every game and gets no calls at all. He averages less than 6 free throws a game for his career. This is a guy who is arguably one of the greatest offensive engines in league history and has the ball in his hands constantly and spends a ton of his time banging in the low post. And he's a 3 time MVP and a champion and still he gets no calls. So yeah, at times he gets enraged at how he's treated by officials. They're lucky he doesn't physically take one of their heads off. Watched the league closely for over 50 years and he's the most poorly officiated super star player ever. By a wide margin.
@@tompratt7125 im sorry but putting you hands on someones back while being boxed out by said player is not a foul, if that was a foul every person who successfully boxed some one would be falling forward every time saying he fouled me. I don't care if he gets to the line only 6 times, thats no reason to call a foul when there is no foul. People are playing tougher in amateur pickup. Its a bad look.
Where do you see he got butchered? Actually I see opposite. Jokic is using his elbows like maniac. Go and see his plays. He should get more fouls, and the reffs are looking away. He plays dirty.
Not really. These teams that have one player controlling the ball so much slows all the other players down. All players want to be involved. We have all played with chuckers and everyone hates players like that. Pistol was like that and his teams always lost.
He was getting crushed in Q1 & Q2 with little calls. Out of the top dogs he is the one that gets the worst whistle. For that refs tried to compensate a little & they didnt want to decide the game with a technical fou!.
Jokic does some weak/dramatic sh like this that any other player would get a tech or ejection for and it’s “hEs pAsSiOnAtE, I LiKe hIs eNeRgY!” Anyone else does it “unacceptable behavior”
Does anyone else absolutely despise the tactic of fouling when your opponent is down 3? It’s advantageous and thus I understand why teams do it, but from an entertainment perspective it absolutely kills what should be the most exciting moments of the game. Not sure what exactly I’d change to remedy it, but something has gotta change
Well, the NBA should adjust the rules. We cant blame teams for taking advantage of them. I also hate taking a knee in the NFL to run out the clock, but it is what it is.
Dude Curry doesnt even get the free throws he deserves with all the holding. He has one of the lowest free throws per game of any star out there, and no its not cause he just shoots threes. Everyone is shooting threes nowadays.
Places both hands on his back, clearly pushing him to the ground. Everyone calls it a flop. Imagine if that was LeBron. You people are disgusting, and you don't deserve Jokic.
Yeah cause he is standing in the paint for over 3 seconds every other play along with hooking people down low all game. Jokic gives just as much as he gets. Stop glazing.
It was a flop no question about it, like what? Only difference is lebron would’ve gotten the call cause he always gets the call. Regardless, it doesn’t make an obvious flop not an obvious flop. Jokic is the best player in the league right now and it’s not even close. He don’t need to resort to flopping
@SageofShadowdale Bud, lively literally just places his hands on Jokic's back. His arms don't push outward or extend whatsoever, and all of a sudden Jokic is pushed so hard he goes in a diving motion to the floor. It is INSANE how people trick themselves into seeing what they want to see.😂
If the ref really said that, the ref deserved to get bullied because that WAS A FOUL. If you flop but it’s really a foul, IT’S STILL AN ILLEGAL MOVE NO MATTER WHAT TO HIT SOMEONE HARD, HENCE A FOUL, USE YOUR BRAIN DUMBA$$
If the ref knew it was a flop he should've gave him a tech for that. He should've also got a tech for yelling at the ref. Jokic also threw the defender to the ground. There were like 3 penalties he should've gotten in like 10 seconds. Draymond would've probably gotten a tech for each one of those.
Obviously jokic started flopping. Bro drew contract almost every possession he got under the post but the refs weren't calling shit. They thing just because jokic doesn't flail around the post the defender didn't foul. They expect mfers to flop around like crazy to call a shooting foul. It's ridiculous.
That's not a tech but Westbrook staring someone is a tech 😂
It should be a tech, but on the other hand, despite most of us wanting consistency, we also don't want a tech unless ABSOLUTELY necessary to determine the outcome of a game. Of course with refs being human, they also have different tolerances and even as much as they try not to, they will have biases and that affects who gives or does not give a tech in a situation like this.
Right
Cause Westbrick's act is getting old
@@fgrep15 They probably also have instructions from the higher ups on how to officiate certain players.
they made a rule change this year to allow players to express themselves a bit more without consequence.... casual fans missed this info.
westbrook be like "I got a tech with only my eyes looking at somebody"
😂
Wrong color 🤷🏼♂️
The Rasheed Wallace Special
Jokic raging is why I dont buy that 9-5 sh*t. The dude loves basketball and competition just like any other superstar.
he has said he loves basketball he just doesn't like the media and other stuff
He loves horses. Basketball is just a side job
He gets so pissed at his teammates 😂
any other superstar? like Embiid?
@@MrBoodabellyEmbiid is mf fake star just like his boy Ben Simmons. Both dudes f*cking finessed the NBA by buying into their BS.
Murray's 2nd free throw should be included on the epic fails compilation😂😂
Shaq wishes he did that everytime
I play 21 where you got to try and miss hitting the rim as strategy like this: I must have done that a hundred times
how does he fuck up a miss
His whole performance is an epic fail this game.
Nope LeBron FT is .. 😆 🤣 😂 When he hit the rim and they lose the game 😆 🤣
Calmest Jokic speech to refs
Balkan rage
Should have been a Tech but it's Jokic
@zenitsuthunder3946 so that's why him and luka cry so much.
And. Where is the LeBron superstar treatment? Oh wait he’s not black. got it.
@@samueltheman3012Jokic cries "so much"? Wtf are you yapping about lil bro?
Murray yeeted that hard at the back board and it still went in lmao
Shit happened to me in college but instead of throwing hard at the backboard I threw it quiet high and it went in anyways 🤣
Murray getting the Manu treatment 😂
Why lol
@@zequeen3023cuz manu once did the same thing in a situation
@@Gogetta80 what's the "thing" he did tho?
@@nickjones5495accidentally making a free throw
No elbow extension from Lively. I think you have to agree its a flop. Jokic had felt the arms behind him and exaggerated his fall
Agreed. 284 lbs doesn't go down THAT easily lol
he is selling it because they never call a faul on him.
@@mike_majorarather, can't allow himself to go down that easily. He has to be bracing for a box out.
If that is a foul there is gonna be no one left at the end of the game
That's a pushing .. Foul
I agree that he didn't shove him with much force, but look at their legs. Lively tripped him up and he had to fall to protect himself. I don't call that a flop.
I fell over laughing when the camera casually cut to yok eviscerating a dude half his size😂
Fr if this were on the street ref woulda been making his final peace with god 😂
Ref almost shat himself
ok but that indeed was a flop lmao
I remember that a Nuggets player tried to make 3 3-point and then he was fouled by Hardy but he really kicked Hardy and he was flopping too.
Crazy cause DJ pushed DLive plain as day with a no call
@@shepheardsounds3342but at least I'm glad that the referee didn't call a foul on Lively before Jokic was complaining.
Doesn't matter if it's a flop. Its a foul if he was pushed.
Yeah, it was a flop!
No tech???? Luka will be ejected for this
Draymond would get suspended for game 5 😅
Fr
Exactly
Maybe cause they do that every other game lol
Also draymond😂
We just watched him manhandle Lively and he falls to the floor fom the smallest contact😭
dereck was barely touching him lol
that's what i'm saying
Jokic flopping like he was on them horses.
hahhah hahahah 😂😂😂 hahaha 😂😂😂
bruh 😂
Wow lively is so strong 😂
Luka 100% gets a tech for that
Actually 😭😭
he do that 354 times in game. before the start of the game he is their faces.
And deservedly so. Luka averages more complaints per game than points.
Luka complains every other play, dudes a bigger crybaby than Lebron
@@lidijaherga215yall lost sthu😂
That was a damn flop! 😂
100% flop. No elbow extension and this dude is like 400 lbs 😂
Gotta say, it sure looked like a flop... And I'm a huge Jokic fan.
Maybe more of an embellishment?
Time for that eye checkup
@@J.J.J.J.J.J.J oh yeah that was WWE level selling.
@@orneryone2 lol, that would be great to see Jokic in a WWE match in the future. He's getting his practice today.
If this was Embiid …
Bruh 😂😂😂😂
We would never stop hearing about it.
whatsinmy AI fixes this (AI Video Analysis) (AI Video Analysis). Jokic gets heated at ref.
insane
Come on that was such an obvious flop lol
Can't say obvious, but some flop was probably going on. A foul on the defender wouldn't have been a bad call.
@@penkima4923 knaw it was a flop big dawg. He does that often.
@@penkima4923 he knows he threw Lively, tried to set it up like he was gonna get retaliated and flopped for the refs attention. luka baits for fouls like this as well as goes up on the refs with no consequences. he's lucky he didnt get tech'd
How is it a flop of dude actually pushed him from the back
@@knoxvillain915 you're the only one who says he got pushed.... must be a lonely feeling.
If that was Westbrook charging towards the ref and shouting then that definitely would've
been a tech ! 😅
It seems that no one discussed the matter when Jokic complained to the referee. Luka was scolded for staring at the referee several times and then the media reported it... Several times today Jokic did not go back to defend and just kept watching the referee! Follow Gafford was blocked, many players put it on his neck, and the referee let it go...
All because of his unstoppable performance on the offensive end...
If you watch Jokic's right foot you can pinpoint the moment he decides to flop
fr. the way he lifts his right foot and then pushes his left foot off of the floor to make a dive for it 😂
😂😂😂😂
Anyone else that's a tech they love him
Flop.
He tried but didn't made the math unlike the ref Lively power and weight is half the Jocker's
Bro they was pushing lively in the back and Gafford all game and nothing was called
if Embiid does that, he gets crucified but when Jokic flops it's all good apparently
The great white hope can do no wrong. You even hear some praising him here in the comments. 😂
jokic fouled derick on the rebound
He fouled Lively on the offensive board anyway lol
That and lively ain't pushing a full grown 7 footer whose like 300 lbs to the floor with one hand not even fully extended 😂😂😂
He didn't. Both fighting the position, with both having hands on each other. That's a no call in all situation.
@@RomnysGonzalezliterally pulls him down. That's an offensive foul, not a no call
@@kmc19xx59 Thissss LMAOOOOOO XD XD
@@JD16_9🧢😂
1:24 only Lively right hand was in contact with Jokic which was bent and at no point stiff or straight. There’s no way such a smaller player could send a behemoth such as Jokic flying that far without generating some kind of momentum.
I have seen players like Tatum get technical simply staring at the Referee but this Dude goes into full rage but didn’t get ‘T’d up.
Telling the MVP he dove is sigma energy. I love it.
Cuz it’s accurate
Imagine using sigma unironically 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
If that is not a flop, then Luka is a saint.
Luka would have been ejected 😮
luka would of got a tech
Luka cries if the arena ac is on, bro is unstoppable
Because Jokic rarely complains, so he gets a pass for complaining at least once every 10 games. Luka on the other hand, complains on every possession, he complains to his teammates, the guy is just born to complain
Luka whines like a baby every other play. He deserves techs
Fr this game jockic was crying all game
@@draspen
He does often complain but I kinda get it cuz dude sometimes gets pulled on the jersey, straight up slapped, pushed and no foul call
I would also be mad
0:41 and he got NO tech for that???
Good
The great white hope gets no techs, anymore.
bc he is right
Luka would've gotten 5 techs talking to the refs like that.
Jokic flopped like he got pulled out of the Platte River
Quit flopping Jokic. Embarrassing
He did flop
He fouled Lively at the start of the video anyways... uncalled
Where is the foul? I don't see it. Lively lost balance and fell, Jokić didn't touch him
@@Swish_Squad bruh jokic hooked him in the neck with his arm… it’s right there. My point was if they didn’t call that they’re definitely not calling a flop on a push
@@coltondodd3086 if that is a foul then we stopping NBA games every second
@@Swish_Squad that was not a basketball play lol. If you think going for the neck like that is common then you watch too much jokic.
Jokic looking like rookie Kevin Love
😂 maybe if the Ref was a horse, he wouldn’t react that way 😂
A horse would make a better ref than most real refs.
@@penkima4923 how about Kris Kash Money Middleton?
@@Anonymous-ru2vg What about him? Does he look like a horse?
Stevie Wonder is a better ref than some of these guys
@@penkima4923 would Kris Kash Money Middleton be a better ref?
Lol the final play was don’t pass to Westbrook
Uh...that was a flop
An African American player wouldve got a tech and its not up for debate
Luka would've been ejected
As he should, luka 0 time champion 0 time mvp, you need to work for special treatment 🏌🏿🏌🏿
@@dariusdragomir9414your crazy
Cuz he would have done that 10 times already
Bron 100% gets memed for that
Bron 100% would still be on the floor in "pain".
He would have gotten the call
@@SeanKlin-x6ojokic and his fan base ore oddly cocky for 1 championship ring. Niggas talking about a dynasty and goat center 😂😂😂😂 all that shit over with. Another dirk
@@Gogetta80😂
Because, Bron is a drama queen, and has been flopping his entire career 🤷♂️
we need more Ref's like that guy not ony did he know it's a flop he also didn't call a reasonable tech
The second and third Jokic's brothers anger turned on in Nicola😂
ofc he didn't receive a tech for that. If that was Luka or someone else, he would've been ejected already
Nah Luka would get free throws
Ok… and Luka is no exaggeration the biggest cry baby the sport has ever seen. He gets a shorter leash because he wants to be a whiney punk. He did that to himself
How can you say this? Luka is crying to the refs non stop ofc he's gonna get a tech. And i love Luka. He's great. Just be realistic...
I like Jokic, but that was both a flop and a tech
The fact he was that mad about a no call and flopped like fish outta water
Was a push tho ngl
Imagine Embiid's or Shai's whistle here
@@RealMrSmileA small push that was exaggerated to get a foul is called a flop.
They should call him Joker Folie a Deux for how bad he flopped
maybe you should go to the doctor, have your eyes checked? if you look closely you can see that the push itself was not the reason he fell, he stumbled over #5 leg
So chill, love the energy here!
and they say bots don't have a sense of humor
Bots learned irony💀
Bro basically head locked Lively to get that rebound and then is raging because he got a shove in the back.
Mavs didnt even have Luka. Nuggs in trouble
Last time they beat them with Luka
Mavs bench was just insanely good tho today
That Kenny album got Jokic ready to box 🥊
Its not all that
thats a flop 100% but he got pushed.
if he got pushed it wasn't a flop
There’s a huge difference between flopping and selling a call. Flopping means you create the illusion of a foul where there really was none, whereas selling a call means you exaggerate a foul that actually happened so the refs make sure to see it.
@@razoo911 overselling a push is a flop.
@@tropicallife4449 no thats a push
@@tropicallife4449 being pushed until you lose your balance is not a flop, come on there is a video just watch it the defender pushed him with hands then with full body
flopped insanely hard 😂😂
1:05 unlike the Lakers last night
Jokic went down faster than Markieff
Anyone else gets a tech for that. So sick of his flopping. I used to love watching him and now, the flops and trickery to get free throws is all I see. Some people call is “smart” but it’s just…the impurest part of the game these days.
Try hockey. Way less flopping and players are immediately called out for it by the opposing team.
Anybody else getting a tech
Glad ref didn't call a tech. Wouldnt have been surprised
Jokic was Fuming Lively gave him a taste of his own medicine 😂😂😂😂
Draymond would've been ejected and next day on ESPN "Should Draymond be Suspended?"
We gonna ignore all the barking Dray does to the refs?
Adam Silver refs out rigging in full effect! Yet the Nugs lose despite cheating like the Warriors😂
100% flop. Looked like a crappie on minnesota lake flopping
What a ridiculous thread. Jokic gets butchered every game and gets no calls at all. He averages less than 6 free throws a game for his career. This is a guy who is arguably one of the greatest offensive engines in league history and has the ball in his hands constantly and spends a ton of his time banging in the low post. And he's a 3 time MVP and a champion and still he gets no calls. So yeah, at times he gets enraged at how he's treated by officials. They're lucky he doesn't physically take one of their heads off. Watched the league closely for over 50 years and he's the most poorly officiated super star player ever. By a wide margin.
He quite literally flops here...
@@ItsCobraJay
A flop is pretending to be fouled when you didn't get fouled
The push was fairly clear here
@@tompratt7125 im sorry but putting you hands on someones back while being boxed out by said player is not a foul, if that was a foul every person who successfully boxed some one would be falling forward every time saying he fouled me.
I don't care if he gets to the line only 6 times, thats no reason to call a foul when there is no foul.
People are playing tougher in amateur pickup. Its a bad look.
Where do you see he got butchered? Actually I see opposite. Jokic is using his elbows like maniac. Go and see his plays. He should get more fouls, and the reffs are looking away. He plays dirty.
More surprised how they are managing without Luka
Not really. These teams that have one player controlling the ball so much slows all the other players down. All players want to be involved. We have all played with chuckers and everyone hates players like that. Pistol was like that and his teams always lost.
i like Jokics energy 😂😂
Gay
if this was draymond yelling…
If tht was draymond he would gotten ejected lmao
He does this every game
Draymond keeps kicking people in the marbles
@@Mr.Weskers when he does tht people put memes on tht and they be funny i be dying laughing
It's not just yelling, certain words or personal insults cause techs
thats a flop, any little touch and you go flying across the floor, come on jokic you are better than that.
😂😂🔥he was HEATED
No technical call? Lol if that's another player that's already a technical lol
He was getting crushed in Q1 & Q2 with little calls. Out of the top dogs he is the one that gets the worst whistle. For that refs tried to compensate a little & they didnt want to decide the game with a technical fou!.
Jokic does some weak/dramatic sh like this that any other player would get a tech or ejection for and it’s “hEs pAsSiOnAtE, I LiKe hIs eNeRgY!” Anyone else does it “unacceptable behavior”
You shouldn't get a tech for that anyway
Refs are terrible, of course players will be mad
Never seen a 300+ pounder falls down that easily. Dude is the best player in the league. Man up, dude.
Now if that were Luka or Embiid crashing out, I'd have never heard the end of it
Does anyone else absolutely despise the tactic of fouling when your opponent is down 3? It’s advantageous and thus I understand why teams do it, but from an entertainment perspective it absolutely kills what should be the most exciting moments of the game. Not sure what exactly I’d change to remedy it, but something has gotta change
Well, the NBA should adjust the rules. We cant blame teams for taking advantage of them. I also hate taking a knee in the NFL to run out the clock, but it is what it is.
Don’t worry he’ll win MVP again 😂😂
No doubt, he did flop there though
Wemby got it
1:23 Oh wow there was no embellishment there at ALL
Finally a call on Nikola Flooper Jokic💯
what's a flooper?
Bro can't even spell the word
Straight fish out of water mode. 🐠 😂😂😂
not getting any calls the whole game obvious he is going to flop
Chaz, post the clip of Murray catching the fly
Bro, that was definitely a flop, no doubt. Just another day in the NBA drama.
You can tell when he got mad and his face changed that he a real dude that dont need to flop!
If it was Embiid, he would get three fouls and not one.
D cousins or Draymond would've been out the game 😂
THATS MY MVP 😤😤🔥🔥🔥🥶🥶
This is what happens when you flop all the time. No one takes you seriously.
If that was curry being pushed that person would have gotten a flagrant 2
Dude Curry doesnt even get the free throws he deserves with all the holding. He has one of the lowest free throws per game of any star out there, and no its not cause he just shoots threes. Everyone is shooting threes nowadays.
Maybe Anthony Davis shouldve tried yeeting the ball during his failed FTs😂
Places both hands on his back, clearly pushing him to the ground. Everyone calls it a flop. Imagine if that was LeBron. You people are disgusting, and you don't deserve Jokic.
Yeah cause he is standing in the paint for over 3 seconds every other play along with hooking people down low all game. Jokic gives just as much as he gets. Stop glazing.
@@ephalanx1 you are sick
It was a flop no question about it, like what? Only difference is lebron would’ve gotten the call cause he always gets the call. Regardless, it doesn’t make an obvious flop not an obvious flop. Jokic is the best player in the league right now and it’s not even close. He don’t need to resort to flopping
@@ghostflame9211 Are you blind? Can you even see both of his hands on Jokic's back?
@SageofShadowdale Bud, lively literally just places his hands on Jokic's back. His arms don't push outward or extend whatsoever, and all of a sudden Jokic is pushed so hard he goes in a diving motion to the floor. It is INSANE how people trick themselves into seeing what they want to see.😂
Rare sighting of a ref not getting in their feelings
You know when you scream at a ref like that and you don't get a tech you probably have a good point.
If the ref really said that, the ref deserved to get bullied because that WAS A FOUL. If you flop but it’s really a foul, IT’S STILL AN ILLEGAL MOVE NO MATTER WHAT TO HIT SOMEONE HARD, HENCE A FOUL, USE YOUR BRAIN DUMBA$$
If the ref knew it was a flop he should've gave him a tech for that. He should've also got a tech for yelling at the ref. Jokic also threw the defender to the ground. There were like 3 penalties he should've gotten in like 10 seconds. Draymond would've probably gotten a tech for each one of those.
Dray woulld've been suspended. Honestly the no call (for flopping) is cool with me here - let the games end
Draymond is a completely different case
Some of the NBA referees need investigating
Obviously jokic started flopping. Bro drew contract almost every possession he got under the post but the refs weren't calling shit. They thing just because jokic doesn't flail around the post the defender didn't foul. They expect mfers to flop around like crazy to call a shooting foul. It's ridiculous.