Saw the V7 stone Guzzi, same colour in the showroom a couple of years back. It looked the business so I bought it. First bike ever bought without test ride...When I left the dealers and started going through the gears I thought " what have I done.! " 😂 By the time I reached home, I was hooked😂 The V7 is a proper motorcycle with shed loads of character. Handles beautifully in all conditions, easy to maintain. 6000 miles later, I'm still smitten. Roll on spring..( a recycled teenager 😊) 11:40
To me there is no doubt, give me the shaft drive, please. Chain drive just sucks, that's all there is to it. And the Moto Guzzi is the only somewhat affordable bike left on the market that doesn't have a dirty chain.
I bought a V7 Stone in September. Reason were -looks, ease of maintenance, shaft drive, large tank capacity and the brand. I’ve had a Bonneville and it was an excellent bike. But in recent years I’ve have two friends who have had serious issues with Triumphs with bad dealer back up. So far I am happy with the Guzzi. It isn’t getting a lot of use here in Wales in December but I love looking at my Italian beauty in the garage every day. I did a review of it on my channel and our opinions are pretty much identical. Merry Christmas to you and yours
When I was looking to buy a new bike in 2022 it came down to the Triumph Street 900 and the Moto Guzzi V7 Special. I absolutely loved the Gold Line Street 900 and decided I wanted that, but unfortunately there were none to be had in the entire western US, they'd all sold out. So, I bought the beautiful blue Moto Guzzi V7 Special and I absolutely love it. I don't think anyone can go wrong with either of these bikes, they are both fantastic. It comes down to styling preference and model choice Bonneville T100/Speed 900, V7 Stone/V7 Special. I think the Guzzi would appeal more to Harley owners with its industrial gear box and pushrod V-Twin and the Triumph more to the Japanese motorcycle owner with its parallel twin and slick gear box. But you can't miss with either of these fantastic bikes.
Currently there's a £2500 difference in the triumph and the guzzi, even more if you shop around. I test road the Triumph and although a fantastic bike it did nothing for me emotionally while the V7 Is just "alive". I love my V7 and never stop laughing and smiling when I ride it. Great review
I have the earlier v7iii and when I bought it I was in the market for a used one and comparing against the triumph street twin. I was going to buy the Triumph (after a test ride) but a test ride on the v7 changed my mind, the character element won me over. Now these 2 models you have compared are next generation on but I guess it probably comes down to that personal preference of how each one makes you feel. My v7iii had 3k miles on when purchased 2 years ago and it’s now on 11k. The motors on the Guzzi’s definitely loosen up once they have 10k miles under their belts and the shaft drive is such a blessing for an easy life. Servicing these is pretty simple as it’s a pushrod motor with everything easily accessible. I love my v7iii and wouldn’t part with it… Great video btw very balanced review as always. Keep up the good work and hope you guys have a peaceful Xmas.
Great comparison! I have the Moto Guzzi V7III Special but I think a Corsa is in my near future. One thing not noted, and it does matter to some, but the Triumphs are made in Thailand and the Guzzi's still in their factory in Italy. Agostini pipes are made a few hundred yards away. 70% of the local town is in the bike manufacturing industry! They are truly made by a craft/cottage manufacturer. Even the seat is hand sewn and embroidered with their name. How cool it that? And maintenance is an absolute breeze. Guzzi all the way!
I went for the Guzzi.... mainly because of the 6 speed box (Trumpet is 5) and the shaft drive.... test rode both bikes, you were correct in saying there's nothing between them.... I certainly didn't regret buying the Guzzi....
Moto Guzzi V7 Special! I currently have a 2022 Kawasaki W800 and a 2022 Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor (along with a 2023 Street Glide) and they are both great bikes. I had a 2022 Moto Guzzi V85TT adventure and loved it, but got rid of it do to the high seat, too hard for a 71 year old man to get on and off. I owned a 2013 V7 a few years back and enjoyed it, a new V7 Special will be next.
A couple of months back I went out shopping for a Triumph. Had always wanted one. Went to the local Triumph dealer and looked over all their various models. Then we wondered into the Moto Guzzi dealer. Went back home, spent a month researching on line. Ended up buying the V7 Stone Special Edition. The looks, the character of the bike, the shaft drive, alloy wheels, the choice was easy.
I have an R nine t and I love it! I was also looking at the T100 and the T120 so my question is why the Guzzi ? I do think the Guzzi is a nice bike though
Changing my bike next year and have been researching for a while and actually whittled it down to these two bikes !! I have decided on the Guzzi ( The 850 special with twin clocks) so hopefully by spring next year I should be on one 🤞☺️
I am considering the very same bike. I live in the US Virgin Islands and for several reasons it is inherently unsafe for two wheeled vehicles compared to 99% of the world. Looking for another place and a bike (most likely a MG that I can maintain myself) will be the one!
Guzzi for me, picked up a Stone Centenario two years ago and love it. A Pyramid fender extender helps keep some (but not all) of the muck off the bike in the wet. The clock's not to everyone's taste but is easy to read and functional. Merry Christmas!
Ive got a v7 stone and its great.Tubeless wheels,six speed gearbox,easy to read speedo and shaft drive.I usually get around 65 miles to a gallon and you can buy brand new on the road for 7k .
Selling my 2018 Gold Wing standard and buying a Moto Guzzi V7 Special Edition. Am not taking the long trips I hoped for when I bought the Wing, and the Guzzi better fits my current riding style and age.
I mentioned once before that I bought a V7 Special around 6 months ago & I absolutely love it. I bought it primarily to ride to work on & thrash through the lovely Adelaide hills on sunny Sunday mornings, 2 things it is perfectly suited to thanks to it's shaft drive & screw & lock nut valve adjustment, stable handling & predictable power delivery. High miles without costly servicing are what make Guzzis perfect for this scenario. What I didn't mention is that I rode a T100 & fully intend to buy one to drag a sidecar. I suspect they would be ideal for this purpose due to their low down torque & slightly steeper fork angle. Constantly adjusting the chain won't be too much of an issue either since it probably won't be ridden much (until I get too old & frail to get the Harley or the Guzzi off their side stand) & the rather small tank shouldn't be too much of a headache for the same reason. Plus, you can always carry more fuel in the sidecar. And nothing in this video seems to indicate I made the wrong choice... Thanks for all your efforts gentlemen. Have a safe & merry Xmas. Can't wait to see what you have in store for us next year!
I have researched and rode both bikes. I've decided to buy the V7 Stone Ten, love the looks of it and the ride put a big smile on my face! The T100 is a fun bike too but just isn't as much fun to ride for me. Thanks for the comparison!
Never ridden a MG but the Triumph takes it for me on looks alone. The MG has a lot of character, the transverse twin is really cool looking, but the Bonneville is just so put together, motorcycle perfection in my eyes.
Tried both and they are fantastic. And they are absolutely different. The Triumph is very smooooooooth. Its touch is refined and you are accostumed to its ergonomics immediately. The Guzzi is very, very torquey, less refined but absolutely marvelous. Price factor is extremely important here. In Spain the Triumph costs 11.500€, the Italian 8.700€. Moreover, the Guzzi transmission is maintenance free, and overall costs should be much more economical. I would go for the Guzzi.
V7 classic for me, test rode both, i was much more impressed with the Guzzi than with the t100, after the Guzzi the t100 felt kind of boring and plain to me, the Guzzi it's easier to maintain and even more friendly diy mechanics than the Bonnie, wich is something i always look for it in my bikes.
I had 3 Guzzis back in the 80's. The V50 and Mk 2 and 3 LeMans (sp). I loved the character of them when the torque of the shaft drive lifted the backend as you pulled away.
I have the Guzzi as mentioned before. It’s at 600 miles now. It feels smoother than when with one mile. I suspect it will become even more so as it ages (like fine wine) and after the 900 mile service. Great city bike for me. I replaced the heavy AGM battery with a 1.3 pound lithium battery. Overall, the bike now seems very light and “flickable,” inspiring confidence in tight city traffic for quick stops and avoidance. I can’t believe I like it so much at this price point. So much fun, while feeling like I’m riding something of value. I will be taking it to Tampa from Miami to see mother for Christmas for five days. I’ll then see how it is as a long distance tourer at highway speed for five hours. I added a fender extender and Rizoma glass/aluminum mirrors. Also, SW Motech racks and lightweight “Urban” saddlebags.
Both are great bikes… the V7 special and the T 100 … we have the T100 already and looking for a second one and the V7 special is a possibility… but there’s a 3rd one which could be a great option in my opinion… that would be the Kawasaki W800 , little less capacity maybe but the engine is a real beauty… would love to see and hear your opinion on that one 😊
My vote goes to the Triumph, very pretty bike. If it looks right, it normally is and it looks just right to me. Merry Christmas to you all and thank you for keeping us entertained in 23. Best wishes for 24 and I hope you reach that 100k subs.
I prefer the Guzzi - cool brand ,more characterful engine , shaft drive, decent sized tank , no tubes. However, I prefer the look of the 750 ( previous model)and would forgo the extra horsepower to lose 25kgs in weight No moustache on the clock either 😂 Meantime I’ll continue with my love affair with my 1979 v50 Keep up the good work on the channel 👍
Informative and entertaining at the same time, just like these bikes you have so much character! I like the new production techniques used during this video, looks very proffesional and fresh, Merry Christmas Ol' Man.
Hard to choose they are both very very apealing motorcycles. However, while the T100 has a more refined paint scheme and finish, the Guzzi base model is cheaper than a T100. The bonus with the Guzzi is a 15kg lighter machine and a marvellous maintenancce free shaft drive.
Both great bikes for sure, maybe not so much for a British winter though!, another excellent review, merry Christmas to you and the family and thankyou for your vlogs across 2023, hers looking forward to more in 24
Great review Sir. I owned several reiterations of the Bonneville over the decades (1973,2005,2013) and currently own the 2023 Moto Guzzi V7Stone Special Edition There’s just something about have an old school style motor cycle in the garage for days that you want to slow down and enjoy a machine in its simple form. All wonderful motor cycles.
I owned a Kawasaki Concours for 14 years. I now have a Meteor 350. I really miss that shaft drive. On the Concours it requires removing the "Pumkin" when changing the rear tire and I would do a fluid change at the same time. Ran a synthetic 75w90 gear oil. Never an issue in over 70k miles.
I love them both. But the Guzzi with its air cooled, 90 degree L twin and shaft drive would be my choice. Even better is the V7 Special with decent clocks, spoked wheels and chromed exhausts. The V7 is very authentic.
Merry Christmas from South Korea! I really enjoyed watching the video because I was seriously considering between the Triumph T100 and Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special this summer. As you mentioned in the video, both bikes are excellent and beautiful. Just like you said in the video, Triumph is a more refined bike compared to the Guzzi. Moto Guzzi is also proven for its reliability over the years but not to the level of the Triumph. Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about it. The dealership experience is also something to consider. Triumph's service in Korea was one of the best and most pleasant experiences each time I visited there. On the other hand, the Moto Guzzi dealership experience in Korea was the worst that I have experienced. Doesn't know how to service the Guzzis properly and gives out false information about the bike's service. Still, I went with the Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special due to its unique characteristics and Italian heritage. I wanted to ride something different from the British Twin since I rode the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 before. There is no doubt that both bikes are excellent bikes to choose from.
I'm really strongly considering either one of these, or possibly a RE INT650. The Guzzi is my current favourite for its extra weirdness, I love cars and bikes with strange engines.
I work as a mechanic at a Triumph dealer. so plenty of opportunity to test drive. I find the T120 too clumsy, but the T100 is much more fun to drive for me. With my driving style on country roads t120 consumption not below 4.5l/100km t100 4.0l/100km. Royal Enfield Interceptor, personally a bad buy for me for rides 300+ km per day not really suitable for 2 from an ergonomic point of view while the engine can easily handle it. Consumption 4.0l/100km. I also started driving a Guzzi and it fits better for me. Maintenance is simple to do yourself, even the valve clearance (bolt and counter nut enfield also). Triumph is equipped with shims. Triumph immediately drives very well.moto guzzi, think after 30,000km, fully broken-in gearbox and engine. it keeps getting more and more fun, but it needs time. my v7iii 750cc stone average consumption drops to 3.6l/100km with an average speed of 48km/h, I always drive with duo mg claims 4.9l/100km. I started driving the 850 stone the day before yesterday. with duo motorcycle is a new demo. average fuel consumption 3.3l/100km. this is the consumption of a 300cc scooter. So ordered a new 850 special. I think fuel consumption and maintenance costs are important these days. Another important tip: never hold the clutch at traffic lights with a Guzzi. This works with a pushrod that runs in greas it will get hot the greas melts and eventually it becomes dry.runs in over time you get a poorly functioning clutch and have to continuously adjust it. Just like old English motorcycles, for example BSA Golden Flash. People who know English motorcycles know what I'm talking about Nothing against this, I have a few myself, it just depends on how you use them.. And ultimately a clutch. which drags and slips after 20,000 km.(triumph and other motorcycles geabox and engine are a unit the pushrod is in the engine, engine oil cools and lubricates it. can handle it well, but I don't think it is healthy in the long term).sorry for my bad English.Greetings from Belgium
Hi could you share what you meant by the T120 being clumsy? I got to test ride it and really loved the ride granted I did not get to ride the T100. I have rodrle a speed twin, liked the T120 better. I want to try riding a z900rs before I make decision.
@@sidharthpalakkode5509 where I live we have many hairpin bends in the mountains that follow each other quickly in steep slopes or descents and the roads are in poor condition and are narrow max +- 1 and a half cars wide sometimes only 1 car wide. On these roads I prefer the T100 Enfield or V7, they are more agile at low speeds max 60 km/h or 38mph and less tiring if you drive all day on these roads. My old BMW 1100GS is much better on this but not comparable to the others. motorcycles. If you are talking about highway use and main roads with higher speeds and wider bends, the T120 will probably be better, but the T100 also does this with ease. you should actually test drive the t100 and the t120 one after the other. You cannot compare the speed twin, it has a different wheel diameter and suspension is adjusted differently and it steers more nervously and wants to fall more into the bend compared to the T100/T120. When it comes to appearance, I think the T120 is nicer than the T100. Construction quality is the same on both models and both can run more than 100,000 km, 62,000 miles. We have a female customer with a T100, which now has 140,000 km, 86,900 miles, without any problems when properly maintained. She does put new oil and filter every 10,000 km, 6,200 miles instead of the Triumph. prescribed 16000km 9900 miles does this have anything to do with it? A salesperson will steer you towards the T120 (more profit). The best advice I can give you is to drive the one's on your wish list and see which one suits your use best and which appearance you like. otherwise you will never be satisfied. The worst for me can be the best for you.
@@riathijs7577 Thanks for your detailed response.. I live in Florida and the roads are flat and wide, probably why I couldnt tell a big difference between the speedtwin and 120.. I did feel the T120 had necessary power for the roads here. I'm probably going to try find one used, first got to give the Kawi Z900RS a shot.
@@sidharthpalakkode5509 Unfortunately I can't say anything about the kawa, I haven't driven it yet. Finding Moto Guzzi dealers in the US is apparently a disaster, but if you have one in your area, give it a try. I have fallen in love with the total concept of the Guzzi. In terms of looks, the t120 wins for me every time. Guzzi less beautiful, but the feeling of riding and the feedback from the motorcycle gives me a smile from ear to ear all day long. He's not the best at anything, but the whole concept is just well balanced. The guzzi gives me a different driving experience and a relaxing feeling. enjoy riding in a completely different way and more of a hangback lazy cruiser kind of feeling. Other naked bikes or retros don't give me this feeling and I ride them much faster to get the same fun factor.Just try and you will gain another experience even if it is not for you, the only thing you lose is time.
The gearbox only shifts properly around 10,000k. It needs to be broken in. It is not a Japanese bike. Try to avoid holding the clutch. In the long term you will get a much nicer gearbox compared to someone who does not do it. And no problems with you. pushrod in the long term. I know that this is already annoying in the beginning. Some go well in neutral, others not. You should try if you are still rolling from 2nd to neutral, with some guzzis this goes better in the beginning until the gearbox broken in@@stevet599
Great Video, I can only assume arranging to have both at the same time is not easy! But this is a really informative format for these Videos. Really enjoying the channel, thanks for your hard work.
@@slipknot5037 The original Triumph went out of business decades ago. The new Triumph is Triumph in name only. MotoGuzzi has been in continuous motorcycle production for over 100 years in the same factory even.
Also, i'd go for the Guzzi. It shows a lot more beauty and my mom just moved to the bottom of France while we're from Belgium. So I'm thinking a lot more trips requires a lot more maintenance unless I go for the Guzzi.
I would go Guzzi because of larger tank and engine characteristics. I would only change the exhaust because there is something I don't like in the exhaust aesthetic. Of course I would go duel clock and spoke wheels.
I had two Guzzis in the 80's, went to the factory in Mandello twice. Loved the bikes. Today I prefer the Triumph Speed Twin 1200, a much better engine, build, detail and finish. But can't go wrong with either of those two bikes.
Good, relevant comparison. Well-prepared w/ comparative specs & no theatrics (as some reviewers do). Thank you! Perhaps the T100 is a bit more comparable to the Guzzi V7 Special, while the Tri. 900 Speed Twin is more comparable to the V7 Stone, but that's minor, since the engine is similar per model. Important factors for me would be the Guzzi's shaft drive, which, despite a bit of power-loss to rear wheel, is a big plus over the old chain drive of the Triumphs (I don't like to mess w/ chains!). Belt-drive would be more acceptable for the road-worthy Triumphs. However, valve adjustments for the Guzzi are required ev. 6200 mi. / 10,000 Km, while Triumph's adjustment is recommended ev. 12,000 mi. / 20,000 Km, if I'm not mistaken. Dealers charge exorbitantly for this, even tho it should be simpler on the Guzzi. Good to learn how to do it yourself. Both bikes are very attractive for that classic, retro niche, and that's the niche I'm most interested in currently. Tough choice!
I had that very choice to make. I had an interceptor and have put it in px for the Guzzi special. The engine looks did it for me and the shaft drive too. But I’m not criticising the Triumph it’s just a decision of the heart
Personally I think the guzzi is more attractive. But the triumph is also very lovely. I'd be happy to get either, but if I can I'd choose the guzzi. I'm looking to start with motorcycling once spring comes around next year and I'm looking at these clasisc style bikes. This channel and it's reviews really help me not only learn more about the different bikes, but also to deal with the waiting time. Great video, looking forward to watch more!
Bought the guzzi as my first bike as well. It's really Great! Make sure you put engine guards on it. I requested it from the dealer and gave me some silly excuses and said it will delay.. few days later I dropped it while stationary...😓
I have owned two Bonnies, lovely bikes, no complaints. Always wanted a Guzzi and hopefully one day I will. If I had to choose between I would go for the Guzzi for one main reason! I have a 40 year old BMW and I have never had to adjust, clean, lube or change the chain and sprockets 😂 not to mention how easy it is to clean the rear wheel.
Whichever you went with, the nearest decent dealership (for either model) might be the deciding factor. For me, the 900 Triumph engine is a peach, smooth with plenty of low end-just how I like it.
Hello from Canada.. You are Darcy have some of the best motorbike reviews on RUclips. I have benefitted immensley from your reviews, thank you and keep it up.
Just looking at these two awesome bikes...I would go for the T100. Just prefer the classic look better from the gauges to the exhaust. Tough choices we have though. Bigger gas tank seems great for range but likely makes for top heavy bike?
Moto Guzzi do have front and rear brushed aluminium "long" mudguards available as an accessory. However, they want about US$800 for the pair! Standard short ones must be a cost saving exercise as well as a fashion statement?
I vote Moto Guzzi here. (But I am also a sucker for a T100). I cannot understand, on either bike, why the makers don’t put decent mud guards on them. Fender extenders are fine but ugly IMO.
Here in Australia i do very long rides covering a few days and i prefer the shaft drive it is just better as you said with no cleaning of chains , my last bike was belt drive too and got nearly 100,000 klm out of that belt
I test rode both bikes earlier this year. The MG was nice to ride but a bit vibby, it definitely had character but the single offset clock was horrible and it wasn't the quality of the T100. Shaft drive was attractive but in my opinion the Triumph was all around nicer to ride so I bought one.
I own the 2021 Moto Guzzi V7 850 in Centenario livery. I added a GTmoto speedo drop bracket to center the gauge on the triple tree. Very easy to install. Looks much better after installing that. Highly recommend. Thank you.
A similar one up for sale here for 2/3rd of the original price. I suspect it’s a demo unit and one of the three that was brought into Malaysia. Less than 1K km. And to make my decision making more complicated, in the same shop there is a 22’ Street Twin with 5k km mileage all decked up (minus the side bags, rails are there) for the same price! I am inclined towards the Centenario, but desperately need an owner’s honest review. I will be happy to hear about your ownership experience. Thank you in advance. p.s. What about the engine heat, tolerable? Here in the tropics that is a major point to consider. Thx again.
Triumph 900 suit me with it's lower down torque but the Motoguzzi V7 is stunning to look at & that Italian character of the transverse motor.V7 has the enormous 21Liter tank & if you tour alot be the best choice.V7 is a air-cooled V-twin & shaft drive which will be a winning factor with alot of people. Triumph sounds awesome has 5gears looks great & for a 900cc bike is quite economical.T100 more pillion friendly,more Dealerships. My type of riding is better suited to the T100 with alot more torque low down & rides more aggressively. I love both these bikes & if a Motoguzzi Dealership closer to me could swing that way especially being shaft drive.If I did alot more touring & lived in a huge country V7 for sure but I live in NZ 🇳🇿 a 12-14.5L tank is adequate as long as you can get 200km per tank of gas as the Speedtwin 900 & T100 can.I still can't decide but the fact that Guzzi Dealership is 3hrs away compared to Triumphs 75mins away is a major win for Triumph as is the shaft drive for Guzzi.I will most likely get one of these bikes in a year's time & considering I already own a Triumph trade for another is a option🤔🤔🤔.
I like very much the 270 degree sound of my T100 gold line from 2022! After some thousand kilometers the stainless steel exhaust sounds a little bit like an old Ducati from the seventies! 😂👍 Best wishes for 2024 from Germany! 🙏
V7 Special and Corsa are incredibly beautiful. I prefer them over the Bonneville. The Stone model (which is the most basic one) is fine as well, but given the price difference I would only compare a Bonneville to a v7 corsa or v7 special. The stone sells for a lower price and it shows. Still an incredibly beautiful bike tho.
I own both. The triumph is more refined and reliable in my opinion. The v7 is a fun bike with character but its way less refined and rough to ride. Also good to note the v7 doesnt hold its value as well as Triumph. You wouldnt believe how many issues those v7s have after the fact thats why they've got v7 v1 v2 v3, etc. Always issues with the shaft drive or motors.
Please share what particular issues. The motor itself is designed to be easily maintained and worked on. The bike has been around since 1967. The modern Bonneville is nice but it hardly owes much to its predecessor.
@ripsramblin I don't have time to go down the list, but feel free to google moto guzzi v7 engine issues and you'll see results for multiple forums where hundreds of issues are reported. Me and 2 of my mates also encountered some of these issues. All bike brands have issues but guzzis specifically are nothing but headaches as of the past 8 years or so. I wouldn't buy another other than for the looks. The triumph on the other than has a solid engine but definitely some recalls and mirrior bits that were covered hider warranty like a wire harness
I Have a guzzi v7II, and had some problems, with the cylinders and now the abs. In 8 years. The cylinder one was still in guarantee període, but this one will be expensive to fix. The Main problem with guzzi is that belongs to Piaggio, and they are a pain in the ass to send pieces and with the costumer service... Now I'm thinking to go for a triumph...
Both on my list for next year, along with th RE Interceptor. Currently leaning towards the Guzzi for the larger fuel tank, shaft drive and relative exclusivity.
Great video, I am leaning towards the Guzzi but something I’m cautious of is that guzzi parts maybe harder to come by and more expensive given the brand isn’t as popular in England. The guzzi still wins me over tho!
For aesthetics alone, you should have compared the special to the Bonnie, stone would be better compared to street twin given clocks and wheel differences etc. V7 850 special is the winner!
I love my street but if I had the money I would also get the Guzzi V7, I would also add the ducati scrambler and a Kawaski w800. All winners for me and you can't go wrong any of them.
I have a v7iii special in blue. Beautiful bike. Love it. Really a lot of motorcycle for the money. Idk if you can get a better looking, sounding, and riding bike. Bought mine with 46 miles on the dash for 5k usd. Pretty good deal for that much motorcycle. Put a set of mistrals and a beetle map tune fixed pretty much every problem it had. Now all that’s left is cosmetic mods and suspension.
I own both the T100 and V7 Special. I would say however that the Guzzi feels more nimble than the T100. I also test rode the T120 and found that bike to be very sluggish, in fact more so than any other of the many bikes that I have owned, hence also more than the T100 (TAYM, The All Year Motorcyclist youtuber, had the same experience and traded his T120 for a T100). Also at very low revs, e.g. in 2nd before a sharp bend, the T100 looses its refinement a bit. That said they both really are great bikes and I would not know which one to choose if I had to (although I do hate chain maintenance..).
Both beautiful machines, I love both and have been looking at both actually a few years ago. I've chosen an "older" V7 Racer from 2014, which I absolutely love and I really want to keep that one. Again both bikes are superb and I might have bought the Triumph one, however I feel that the Triumph is a thorough modern bike with old looks, and the Guzzi is more like an old bike which has been updated all the time. Feels more genuine. I've always had oldtimer bikes/cars and the V7 really gives that "classic" feel because of it's character, but with modern reliability and modern brakes.
I own both bikes (but used) along with a Interceptor 650. I'm doing an ongoing series comparing all three. They're really such totally different machines.
Saw the V7 stone Guzzi, same colour in the showroom a couple of years back. It looked the business so I bought it. First bike ever bought without test ride...When I left the dealers and started going through the gears I thought " what have I done.!
" 😂 By the time I reached home, I was hooked😂 The V7 is a proper motorcycle with shed loads of character. Handles beautifully in all conditions, easy to maintain. 6000 miles later, I'm still smitten. Roll on spring..( a recycled teenager 😊) 11:40
To me there is no doubt, give me the shaft drive, please. Chain drive just sucks, that's all there is to it. And the Moto Guzzi is the only somewhat affordable bike left on the market that doesn't have a dirty chain.
I bought a V7 Stone in September. Reason were -looks, ease of maintenance, shaft drive, large tank capacity and the brand. I’ve had a Bonneville and it was an excellent bike. But in recent years I’ve have two friends who have had serious issues with Triumphs with bad dealer back up. So far I am happy with the Guzzi. It isn’t getting a lot of use here in Wales in December but I love looking at my Italian beauty in the garage every day. I did a review of it on my channel and our opinions are pretty much identical. Merry Christmas to you and yours
When I was looking to buy a new bike in 2022 it came down to the Triumph Street 900 and the Moto Guzzi V7 Special. I absolutely loved the Gold Line Street 900 and decided I wanted that, but unfortunately there were none to be had in the entire western US, they'd all sold out. So, I bought the beautiful blue Moto Guzzi V7 Special and I absolutely love it. I don't think anyone can go wrong with either of these bikes, they are both fantastic. It comes down to styling preference and model choice Bonneville T100/Speed 900, V7 Stone/V7 Special. I think the Guzzi would appeal more to Harley owners with its industrial gear box and pushrod V-Twin and the Triumph more to the Japanese motorcycle owner with its parallel twin and slick gear box. But you can't miss with either of these fantastic bikes.
Currently there's a £2500 difference in the triumph and the guzzi, even more if you shop around.
I test road the Triumph and although a fantastic bike it did nothing for me emotionally while the V7 Is just "alive". I love my V7 and never stop laughing and smiling when I ride it.
Great review
Many thanks 😊
I have the earlier v7iii and when I bought it I was in the market for a used one and comparing against the triumph street twin. I was going to buy the Triumph (after a test ride) but a test ride on the v7 changed my mind, the character element won me over. Now these 2 models you have compared are next generation on but I guess it probably comes down to that personal preference of how each one makes you feel. My v7iii had 3k miles on when purchased 2 years ago and it’s now on 11k. The motors on the Guzzi’s definitely loosen up once they have 10k miles under their belts and the shaft drive is such a blessing for an easy life. Servicing these is pretty simple as it’s a pushrod motor with everything easily accessible. I love my v7iii and wouldn’t part with it… Great video btw very balanced review as always. Keep up the good work and hope you guys have a peaceful Xmas.
Great to hear 👍🏼
Great comparison! I have the Moto Guzzi V7III Special but I think a Corsa is in my near future. One thing not noted, and it does matter to some, but the Triumphs are made in Thailand and the Guzzi's still in their factory in Italy. Agostini pipes are made a few hundred yards away. 70% of the local town is in the bike manufacturing industry! They are truly made by a craft/cottage manufacturer. Even the seat is hand sewn and embroidered with their name. How cool it that? And maintenance is an absolute breeze. Guzzi all the way!
I went for the Guzzi.... mainly because of the 6 speed box (Trumpet is 5) and the shaft drive.... test rode both bikes, you were correct in saying there's nothing between them.... I certainly didn't regret buying the Guzzi....
Great choice 👍🏼
Moto Guzzi V7 Special! I currently have a 2022 Kawasaki W800 and a 2022 Royal Enfield 650 Interceptor (along with a 2023 Street Glide) and they are both great bikes. I had a 2022 Moto Guzzi V85TT adventure and loved it, but got rid of it do to the high seat, too hard for a 71 year old man to get on and off. I owned a 2013 V7 a few years back and enjoyed it, a new V7 Special will be next.
A couple of months back I went out shopping for a Triumph. Had always wanted one. Went to the local Triumph dealer and looked over all their various models. Then we wondered into the Moto Guzzi dealer.
Went back home, spent a month researching on line. Ended up buying the V7 Stone Special Edition. The looks, the character of the bike, the shaft drive, alloy wheels, the choice was easy.
Awesome enjoy your Guzzi 👍🏼
I also own a Guzzi V7 Special Edition (along with a few other bikes), and I genuinely love it! Tons of character!!!
I chose Moto Guzzi for several reasons. Shaft drive, air cooled, large tank, easy maintenance.
Excellent reasons, plus it’s Italian!
I did this comparison a few years back. Went for the V7. Never regretted it.
Guzzi seems like just the bike I need for weekend rides in the country. Low maintenance, easy riding.
They’re both great bikes, but as an r nine t owner, the Guzzi gets my vote.
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I have an R nine t and I love it! I was also looking at the T100 and the T120 so my question is why the Guzzi ? I do think the Guzzi is a nice bike though
Changing my bike next year and have been researching for a while and actually whittled it down to these two bikes !! I have decided on the Guzzi ( The 850 special with twin clocks) so hopefully by spring next year I should be on one 🤞☺️
great choice with the twin clocks! that bike is borderline flawless with that cluster.
Yes the V7 Special looks the goods ⭐️
I am considering the very same bike. I live in the US Virgin Islands and for several reasons it is inherently unsafe for two wheeled vehicles compared to 99% of the world. Looking for another place and a bike (most likely a MG that I can maintain myself) will be the one!
I like the air cooled, shaft drive of the Moto Guzzi. Also, easy valve checks. Probably can't go wrong with either bike, IMHO.
I recently sold my 2020 V7III. Loved the bike. I purchased a 2016 T100. The MG is a visceral experience. The Triumph is like driving a Cadillac.
I went with the Guzzi its beautiful and if I'm going to pay a premium for a bike Id rather that money go to workers earning a proper wage.
Awesome 👍🏼
Both bikes look great but which one is better for a tall rider with height 6.3? @@MrDarcy-OlMan
@@AlexanderGriban I am 6ft 2" and I would say there is nothing in it really, if you put a flat seat on the Guzzi it would be slightly better 👍🏼
Guzzi for me, picked up a Stone Centenario two years ago and love it. A Pyramid fender extender helps keep some (but not all) of the muck off the bike in the wet. The clock's not to everyone's taste but is easy to read and functional. Merry Christmas!
Merry xmas 🤶
Used to own a v7 III Stone, 2019 model year. Sold it when I moved countries. It is a fantastic bike. Loved it. I miss it a whole heap.
Ive got a v7 stone and its great.Tubeless wheels,six speed gearbox,easy to read speedo and shaft drive.I usually get around 65 miles to a gallon and you can buy brand new on the road for 7k .
Selling my 2018 Gold Wing standard and buying a Moto Guzzi V7 Special Edition. Am not taking the long trips I hoped for when I bought the Wing, and the Guzzi better fits my current riding style and age.
Enjoy your vids very much, thank you. I bought a 2024 V7 Corsa and it is fantastic. And the Triumph is made in Thailand, not Italy.
Just bought a v7 special in white/grey. It is the most beautiful bike I have owned so far.
I'll have more to say about it in a few weeks.
Great to hear, enjoy your new Guzzi 👍🏼
I mentioned once before that I bought a V7 Special around 6 months ago & I absolutely love it. I bought it primarily to ride to work on & thrash through the lovely Adelaide hills on sunny Sunday mornings, 2 things it is perfectly suited to thanks to it's shaft drive & screw & lock nut valve adjustment, stable handling & predictable power delivery. High miles without costly servicing are what make Guzzis perfect for this scenario.
What I didn't mention is that I rode a T100 & fully intend to buy one to drag a sidecar. I suspect they would be ideal for this purpose due to their low down torque & slightly steeper fork angle. Constantly adjusting the chain won't be too much of an issue either since it probably won't be ridden much (until I get too old & frail to get the Harley or the Guzzi off their side stand) & the rather small tank shouldn't be too much of a headache for the same reason. Plus, you can always carry more fuel in the sidecar.
And nothing in this video seems to indicate I made the wrong choice...
Thanks for all your efforts gentlemen. Have a safe & merry Xmas. Can't wait to see what you have in store for us next year!
Awesome to hear you are loving your Guzzi and a Merry xmas to you also 👍🏼
I have researched and rode both bikes. I've decided to buy the V7 Stone Ten, love the looks of it and the ride put a big smile on my face! The T100 is a fun bike too but just isn't as much fun to ride for me. Thanks for the comparison!
Speed twin would have been a better bike to compare it with
I loved how you did the seating comparison. Well done!
(Now if we could only have the fuel consumption back in liters as well please 😉 )
Never ridden a MG but the Triumph takes it for me on looks alone. The MG has a lot of character, the transverse twin is really cool looking, but the Bonneville is just so put together, motorcycle perfection in my eyes.
I might be biased because i own a v85, but you just got to love the look of that guzzi engine 😍😍😍😍😍
Great video and a good comparison. I prefer the look and character of the Guzzi 👍🏼
Many thanks 😊
Tried both and they are fantastic. And they are absolutely different. The Triumph is very smooooooooth. Its touch is refined and you are accostumed to its ergonomics immediately. The Guzzi is very, very torquey, less refined but absolutely marvelous. Price factor is extremely important here. In Spain the Triumph costs 11.500€, the Italian 8.700€. Moreover, the Guzzi transmission is maintenance free, and overall costs should be much more economical. I would go for the Guzzi.
V7 classic for me, test rode both, i was much more impressed with the Guzzi than with the t100, after the Guzzi the t100 felt kind of boring and plain to me, the Guzzi it's easier to maintain and even more friendly diy mechanics than the Bonnie, wich is something i always look for it in my bikes.
I had 3 Guzzis back in the 80's. The V50 and Mk 2 and 3 LeMans (sp). I loved the character of them when the torque of the shaft drive lifted the backend as you pulled away.
I have the Guzzi as mentioned before. It’s at 600 miles now. It feels smoother than when with one mile. I suspect it will become even more so as it ages (like fine wine) and after the 900 mile service.
Great city bike for me. I replaced the heavy AGM battery with a 1.3 pound lithium battery. Overall, the bike now seems very light and “flickable,” inspiring confidence in tight city traffic for quick stops and avoidance.
I can’t believe I like it so much at this price point. So much fun, while feeling like I’m riding something of value.
I will be taking it to Tampa from Miami to see mother for Christmas for five days. I’ll then see how it is as a long distance tourer at highway speed for five hours.
I added a fender extender and Rizoma glass/aluminum mirrors. Also, SW Motech racks and lightweight “Urban” saddlebags.
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I bought a 2022 Moto Guzzi v7 Special. My third Guzzi and its my favorite.
Awesome 👍🏼👍🏼
The sound and grunt of the Bonnie are addictive. I tried both and bought the Trumpet.
Happy Christmas. Both brilliant bikes, for me, the Moto Guzzi gets my vote. Shaft drive a plus and just has that more appealing style to me.
Happy xmas 🤶
The Moto Guzzi looks better ,it has shaft drive, 21 liter fuel tank.. The Guzzi is definitely the winner
I have a 2021 Moto Guzzi V7 Special and love it. For me its the perfect motorcycle. As a bonus I almost never see another on the road where I live.
Very proud of how good the Old man pronounces Moto Guzzi ❤️💪
Both are beautiful bikes, but I prefer low maintenance. Shaft drive, easy to adjust valves, no cooling system maintenance. Guzzi 4 me.
Both are great bikes… the V7 special and the T 100 … we have the T100 already and looking for a second one and the V7 special is a possibility… but there’s a 3rd one which could be a great option in my opinion… that would be the Kawasaki W800 , little less capacity maybe but the engine is a real beauty… would love to see and hear your opinion on that one 😊
My vote goes to the Triumph, very pretty bike. If it looks right, it normally is and it looks just right to me. Merry Christmas to you all and thank you for keeping us entertained in 23. Best wishes for 24 and I hope you reach that 100k subs.
I’d go for the Guzzi vs the Triumph for one key reason, shaft drive so no chain maintenance!
I prefer the Guzzi - cool brand ,more characterful engine , shaft drive, decent sized tank , no tubes. However, I prefer the look of the 750 ( previous model)and would forgo the extra horsepower to lose 25kgs in weight No moustache on the clock either 😂 Meantime I’ll continue with my love affair with my 1979 v50 Keep up the good work on the channel 👍
Informative and entertaining at the same time, just like these bikes you have so much character! I like the new production techniques used during this video, looks very proffesional and fresh, Merry Christmas Ol' Man.
Thank you and Merry xmas to you also 👍🏼
Hard to choose they are both very very apealing motorcycles.
However, while the T100 has a more refined paint scheme and finish, the Guzzi base model is cheaper than a T100.
The bonus with the Guzzi is a 15kg lighter machine and a marvellous maintenancce free shaft drive.
Both are great bikes,but in that green the T100 looks absolutely fantastic.
Had a Bonneville.
Didn't like the blandness or sky high service costs.
Love my Guzzi V7 and can service it myself.
Amen brother! Testify...!
For me Triumph every time, looks, quality, ride and sound. I own the T 100 ‘s big brother the T 120, both awesome IMHO.
Both great bikes for sure, maybe not so much for a British winter though!, another excellent review, merry Christmas to you and the family and thankyou for your vlogs across 2023, hers looking forward to more in 24
Moto Guzzi is air cooled. This is why I bought one ❤
Should i buy a 750 for cheap or 850 for 2k more? It will just be used for short 2-30 mile rides.
Its the Guzzi for me, but not with blacked out pipes, it's got character by the bucket load.
Great review Sir.
I owned several reiterations of the Bonneville over the decades (1973,2005,2013) and currently own the 2023 Moto Guzzi V7Stone Special Edition
There’s just something about have an old school style motor cycle in the garage for days that you want to slow down and enjoy a machine in its simple form.
All wonderful motor cycles.
I owned a Kawasaki Concours for 14 years. I now have a Meteor 350. I really miss that shaft drive. On the Concours it requires removing the "Pumkin" when changing the rear tire and I would do a fluid change at the same time. Ran a synthetic 75w90 gear oil. Never an issue in over 70k miles.
I love them both. But the Guzzi with its air cooled, 90 degree L twin and shaft drive would be my choice. Even better is the V7 Special with decent clocks, spoked wheels and chromed exhausts. The V7 is very authentic.
Bonnie every time, Those looks are great, but then the Guzzi has shaft, and we all like a good shaft
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Merry Christmas from South Korea! I really enjoyed watching the video because I was seriously considering between the Triumph T100 and Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special this summer. As you mentioned in the video, both bikes are excellent and beautiful. Just like you said in the video, Triumph is a more refined bike compared to the Guzzi. Moto Guzzi is also proven for its reliability over the years but not to the level of the Triumph. Personally, I wouldn't worry too much about it. The dealership experience is also something to consider. Triumph's service in Korea was one of the best and most pleasant experiences each time I visited there. On the other hand, the Moto Guzzi dealership experience in Korea was the worst that I have experienced. Doesn't know how to service the Guzzis properly and gives out false information about the bike's service. Still, I went with the Moto Guzzi V7 850 Special due to its unique characteristics and Italian heritage. I wanted to ride something different from the British Twin since I rode the Royal Enfield Interceptor 650 before. There is no doubt that both bikes are excellent bikes to choose from.
Enjoy your Guzzi and happy Xmas 👍🏼
I'm really strongly considering either one of these, or possibly a RE INT650. The Guzzi is my current favourite for its extra weirdness, I love cars and bikes with strange engines.
Buy a Guzzi, unless you hate strangers coming up to you & saying, "Nice bike! What is it?" 😉
Mr Darcy is considering a Guzzi 👍🏼
@@viennapalacesomeone asked me a few hours ago this question. He said, really nice bike. What is it? Is it Japanese?
@@edwardsenesac 😆😅😂🤣
I work as a mechanic at a Triumph dealer. so plenty of opportunity to test drive. I find the T120 too clumsy, but the T100 is much more fun to drive for me. With my driving style on country roads t120 consumption not below 4.5l/100km t100 4.0l/100km. Royal Enfield Interceptor, personally a bad buy for me for rides 300+ km per day not really suitable for 2 from an ergonomic point of view while the engine can easily handle it. Consumption 4.0l/100km. I also started driving a Guzzi and it fits better for me. Maintenance is simple to do yourself, even the valve clearance (bolt and counter nut enfield also). Triumph is equipped with shims. Triumph immediately drives very well.moto guzzi, think after 30,000km, fully broken-in gearbox and engine. it keeps getting more and more fun, but it needs time. my v7iii 750cc stone average consumption drops to 3.6l/100km with an average speed of 48km/h, I always drive with duo mg claims 4.9l/100km. I started driving the 850 stone the day before yesterday. with duo motorcycle is a new demo. average fuel consumption 3.3l/100km. this is the consumption of a 300cc scooter. So ordered a new 850 special. I think fuel consumption and maintenance costs are important these days. Another important tip: never hold the clutch at traffic lights with a Guzzi. This works with a pushrod that runs in greas it will get hot the greas melts and eventually it becomes dry.runs in over time you get a poorly functioning clutch and have to continuously adjust it. Just like old English motorcycles, for example BSA Golden Flash. People who know English motorcycles know what I'm talking about Nothing against this, I have a few myself, it just depends on how you use them.. And ultimately a clutch. which drags and slips after 20,000 km.(triumph and other motorcycles geabox and engine are a unit the pushrod is in the engine, engine oil cools and lubricates it. can handle it well, but I don't think it is healthy in the long term).sorry for my bad English.Greetings from Belgium
Hi could you share what you meant by the T120 being clumsy? I got to test ride it and really loved the ride granted I did not get to ride the T100. I have rodrle a speed twin, liked the T120 better. I want to try riding a z900rs before I make decision.
@@sidharthpalakkode5509 where I live we have many hairpin bends in the mountains that follow each other quickly in steep slopes or descents and the roads are in poor condition and are narrow max +- 1 and a half cars wide sometimes only 1 car wide. On these roads I prefer the T100 Enfield or V7, they are more agile at low speeds max 60 km/h or 38mph and less tiring if you drive all day on these roads. My old BMW 1100GS is much better on this but not comparable to the others. motorcycles. If you are talking about highway use and main roads with higher speeds and wider bends, the T120 will probably be better, but the T100 also does this with ease. you should actually test drive the t100 and the t120 one after the other. You cannot compare the speed twin, it has a different wheel diameter and suspension is adjusted differently and it steers more nervously and wants to fall more into the bend compared to the T100/T120. When it comes to appearance, I think the T120 is nicer than the T100. Construction quality is the same on both models and both can run more than 100,000 km, 62,000 miles. We have a female customer with a T100, which now has 140,000 km, 86,900 miles, without any problems when properly maintained. She does put new oil and filter every 10,000 km, 6,200 miles instead of the Triumph. prescribed 16000km 9900 miles does this have anything to do with it? A salesperson will steer you towards the T120 (more profit). The best advice I can give you is to drive the one's on your wish list and see which one suits your use best and which appearance you like. otherwise you will never be satisfied. The worst for me can be the best for you.
@@riathijs7577 Thanks for your detailed response.. I live in Florida and the roads are flat and wide, probably why I couldnt tell a big difference between the speedtwin and 120.. I did feel the T120 had necessary power for the roads here. I'm probably going to try find one used, first got to give the Kawi Z900RS a shot.
@@sidharthpalakkode5509 Unfortunately I can't say anything about the kawa, I haven't driven it yet. Finding Moto Guzzi dealers in the US is apparently a disaster, but if you have one in your area, give it a try. I have fallen in love with the total concept of the Guzzi. In terms of looks, the t120 wins for me every time. Guzzi less beautiful, but the feeling of riding and the feedback from the motorcycle gives me a smile from ear to ear all day long. He's not the best at anything, but the whole concept is just well balanced. The guzzi gives me a different driving experience and a relaxing feeling. enjoy riding in a completely different way and more of a hangback lazy cruiser kind of feeling. Other naked bikes or retros don't give me this feeling and I ride them much faster to get the same fun factor.Just try and you will gain another experience even if it is not for you, the only thing you lose is time.
The gearbox only shifts properly around 10,000k. It needs to be broken in. It is not a Japanese bike. Try to avoid holding the clutch. In the long term you will get a much nicer gearbox compared to someone who does not do it. And no problems with you. pushrod in the long term. I know that this is already annoying in the beginning. Some go well in neutral, others not. You should try if you are still rolling from 2nd to neutral, with some guzzis this goes better in the beginning until the gearbox broken in@@stevet599
I really fancy the Guzzi! Wishing you and Darcy all the best for Christmas and the New Year.
Yes we both enjoyed riding the Guzzi's 😊
Happy xmas and New year 👍🏼
Great Video, I can only assume arranging to have both at the same time is not easy! But this is a really informative format for these Videos. Really enjoying the channel, thanks for your hard work.
Many thanks 😊
The Triumph is a retro classic from a new company. The Moto Guzzi is a true classic from a 100+ year old company.
I mean 'New' is a bit of a stretch, they've been running in their current guise for 40 years
@@xu10j4rs1 That is good to hear. I hope Triumph thrives
Prefer the sound of the Triumph from what I hear now though… but I love the rougher look of the guzzi i most say.
Triumph is older than moto guzzi
@@slipknot5037 The original Triumph went out of business decades ago. The new Triumph is Triumph in name only. MotoGuzzi has been in continuous motorcycle production for over 100 years in the same factory even.
Also, i'd go for the Guzzi. It shows a lot more beauty and my mom just moved to the bottom of France while we're from Belgium. So I'm thinking a lot more trips requires a lot more maintenance unless I go for the Guzzi.
The Triumph is a modern bike made to look old. The Guzzi is an old bike that's been modernised. They're both great but very different to ride.
I would go Guzzi because of larger tank and engine characteristics. I would only change the exhaust because there is something I don't like in the exhaust aesthetic. Of course I would go duel clock and spoke wheels.
I had two Guzzis in the 80's, went to the factory in Mandello twice. Loved the bikes. Today I prefer the Triumph Speed Twin 1200, a much better engine, build, detail and finish. But can't go wrong with either of those two bikes.
Awesome 👍🏼
Good, relevant comparison. Well-prepared w/ comparative specs & no theatrics (as some reviewers do). Thank you! Perhaps the T100 is a bit more comparable to the Guzzi V7 Special, while the Tri. 900 Speed Twin is more comparable to the V7 Stone, but that's minor, since the engine is similar per model. Important factors for me would be the Guzzi's shaft drive, which, despite a bit of power-loss to rear wheel, is a big plus over the old chain drive of the Triumphs (I don't like to mess w/ chains!). Belt-drive would be more acceptable for the road-worthy Triumphs. However, valve adjustments for the Guzzi are required ev. 6200 mi. / 10,000 Km, while Triumph's adjustment is recommended ev. 12,000 mi. / 20,000 Km, if I'm not mistaken. Dealers charge exorbitantly for this, even tho it should be simpler on the Guzzi. Good to learn how to do it yourself. Both bikes are very attractive for that classic, retro niche, and that's the niche I'm most interested in currently. Tough choice!
I had that very choice to make. I had an interceptor and have put it in px for the Guzzi special. The engine looks did it for me and the shaft drive too. But I’m not criticising the Triumph it’s just a decision of the heart
Great to hear 👍🏼
Personally I think the guzzi is more attractive. But the triumph is also very lovely. I'd be happy to get either, but if I can I'd choose the guzzi.
I'm looking to start with motorcycling once spring comes around next year and I'm looking at these clasisc style bikes. This channel and it's reviews really help me not only learn more about the different bikes, but also to deal with the waiting time.
Great video, looking forward to watch more!
Bought the guzzi as my first bike as well. It's really Great! Make sure you put engine guards on it. I requested it from the dealer and gave me some silly excuses and said it will delay.. few days later I dropped it while stationary...😓
I have owned two Bonnies, lovely bikes, no complaints. Always wanted a Guzzi and hopefully one day I will. If I had to choose between I would go for the Guzzi for one main reason! I have a 40 year old BMW and I have never had to adjust, clean, lube or change the chain and sprockets 😂 not to mention how easy it is to clean the rear wheel.
Whichever you went with, the nearest decent dealership (for either model) might be the deciding factor. For me, the 900 Triumph engine is a peach, smooth with plenty of low end-just how I like it.
Hello from Canada.. You are Darcy have some of the best motorbike reviews on RUclips. I have benefitted immensley from your reviews, thank you and keep it up.
@@lindsaymunson4310 thank you very much, great to hear 👍🏼
Just looking at these two awesome bikes...I would go for the T100. Just prefer the classic look better from the gauges to the exhaust. Tough choices we have though. Bigger gas tank seems great for range but likely makes for top heavy bike?
The shaft drive its amazing no clean chain or tighten just replace oil on final drive every 18000 miles 😊
I sooooooo agree with your comment on proper mudguards. Brands listen to the Ol‘ Man!!!! …. at min put proper mudguards in your accessories catalogs.
Moto Guzzi do have front and rear brushed aluminium "long" mudguards available as an accessory. However, they want about US$800 for the pair! Standard short ones must be a cost saving exercise as well as a fashion statement?
Put a Baak bench seat, upgrade the shocks a bit and a set of Mistral cans on an 850 Special and you have a perfect bike. I love mine.
V7, but the Special version.
I just bought a 2022 T100. So, that is my answer. Both are lovely bikes
I vote Moto Guzzi here. (But I am also a sucker for a T100). I cannot understand, on either bike, why the makers don’t put decent mud guards on them. Fender extenders are fine but ugly IMO.
Yes indeed. It’s following fashion. Also, most reviewers don’t mention it, so it doesn’t reach the design department!
V7 for sure❤thanks for the video and the info's
Here in Australia i do very long rides covering a few days and i prefer the shaft drive it is just better as you said with no cleaning of chains , my last bike was belt drive too and got nearly 100,000 klm out of that belt
I test rode both bikes earlier this year. The MG was nice to ride but a bit vibby, it definitely had character but the single offset clock was horrible and it wasn't the quality of the T100.
Shaft drive was attractive but in my opinion the Triumph was all around nicer to ride so I bought one.
Moto Guzzi V7 with its air cooled V2 nails it by a mile., it has a soul. Nothing wrong with the Bonneville, but it's just boring compared to the V7.
I own the 2021 Moto Guzzi V7 850 in Centenario livery. I added a GTmoto speedo drop bracket to center the gauge on the triple tree. Very easy to install. Looks much better after installing that. Highly recommend. Thank you.
Excellent! That’s good to know 👌🏼
A similar one up for sale here for 2/3rd of the original price. I suspect it’s a demo unit and one of the three that was brought into Malaysia. Less than 1K km. And to make my decision making more complicated, in the same shop there is a 22’ Street Twin with 5k km mileage all decked up (minus the side bags, rails are there) for the same price! I am inclined towards the Centenario, but desperately need an owner’s honest review. I will be happy to hear about your ownership experience. Thank you in advance. p.s. What about the engine heat, tolerable? Here in the tropics that is a major point to consider. Thx again.
I was hoping you'd do this video after reviewing both if them lately.
Triumph 900 suit me with it's lower down torque but the Motoguzzi V7 is stunning to look at & that Italian character of the transverse motor.V7 has the enormous 21Liter tank & if you tour alot be the best choice.V7 is a air-cooled V-twin & shaft drive which will be a winning factor with alot of people.
Triumph sounds awesome has 5gears looks great & for a 900cc bike is quite economical.T100 more pillion friendly,more Dealerships.
My type of riding is better suited to the T100 with alot more torque low down & rides more aggressively.
I love both these bikes & if a Motoguzzi Dealership closer to me could swing that way especially being shaft drive.If I did alot more touring & lived in a huge country V7 for sure but I live in NZ 🇳🇿 a 12-14.5L tank is adequate as long as you can get 200km per tank of gas as the Speedtwin 900 & T100 can.I still can't decide but the fact that Guzzi Dealership is 3hrs away compared to Triumphs 75mins away is a major win for Triumph as is the shaft drive for Guzzi.I will most likely get one of these bikes in a year's time & considering I already own a Triumph trade for another is a option🤔🤔🤔.
@ruahinesrider great to hear 👍🏼
I like very much the 270 degree sound of my T100 gold line from 2022!
After some thousand kilometers the stainless steel exhaust sounds a little bit like an old Ducati from the seventies! 😂👍
Best wishes for 2024 from Germany! 🙏
I Like both of them but the V7 (especially with the V7 Special) I love, it is a very reliable Bike and it is always fun to ride it.
V7 Special and Corsa are incredibly beautiful. I prefer them over the Bonneville. The Stone model (which is the most basic one) is fine as well, but given the price difference I would only compare a Bonneville to a v7 corsa or v7 special. The stone sells for a lower price and it shows. Still an incredibly beautiful bike tho.
The Guzzi would be my choice especially the special.
I own both. The triumph is more refined and reliable in my opinion. The v7 is a fun bike with character but its way less refined and rough to ride. Also good to note the v7 doesnt hold its value as well as Triumph. You wouldnt believe how many issues those v7s have after the fact thats why they've got v7 v1 v2 v3, etc. Always issues with the shaft drive or motors.
Please share what particular issues. The motor itself is designed to be easily maintained and worked on. The bike has been around since 1967. The modern Bonneville is nice but it hardly owes much to its predecessor.
@ripsramblin I don't have time to go down the list, but feel free to google moto guzzi v7 engine issues and you'll see results for multiple forums where hundreds of issues are reported. Me and 2 of my mates also encountered some of these issues. All bike brands have issues but guzzis specifically are nothing but headaches as of the past 8 years or so. I wouldn't buy another other than for the looks. The triumph on the other than has a solid engine but definitely some recalls and mirrior bits that were covered hider warranty like a wire harness
Thanks for the info@@FunWithAJ
I Have a guzzi v7II, and had some problems, with the cylinders and now the abs. In 8 years. The cylinder one was still in guarantee període, but this one will be expensive to fix. The Main problem with guzzi is that belongs to Piaggio, and they are a pain in the ass to send pieces and with the costumer service... Now I'm thinking to go for a triumph...
Both on my list for next year, along with th RE Interceptor. Currently leaning towards the Guzzi for the larger fuel tank, shaft drive and relative exclusivity.
Great video, I am leaning towards the Guzzi but something I’m cautious of is that guzzi parts maybe harder to come by and more expensive given the brand isn’t as popular in England. The guzzi still wins me over tho!
For aesthetics alone, you should have compared the special to the Bonnie, stone would be better compared to street twin given clocks and wheel differences etc.
V7 850 special is the winner!
Your reviews r the best
I go with t100 because of the vintage look,,the beautiful exhaust shape and the engine of course,,, greetings from Egypt.
I love my street but if I had the money I would also get the Guzzi V7, I would also add the ducati scrambler and a Kawaski w800. All winners for me and you can't go wrong any of them.
I have a v7iii special in blue. Beautiful bike. Love it. Really a lot of motorcycle for the money. Idk if you can get a better looking, sounding, and riding bike. Bought mine with 46 miles on the dash for 5k usd. Pretty good deal for that much motorcycle. Put a set of mistrals and a beetle map tune fixed pretty much every problem it had. Now all that’s left is cosmetic mods and suspension.
Awesome great to hear 👍🏼
I own both the T100 and V7 Special. I would say however that the Guzzi feels more nimble than the T100. I also test rode the T120 and found that bike to be very sluggish, in fact more so than any other of the many bikes that I have owned, hence also more than the T100 (TAYM, The All Year Motorcyclist youtuber, had the same experience and traded his T120 for a T100). Also at very low revs, e.g. in 2nd before a sharp bend, the T100 looses its refinement a bit. That said they both really are great bikes and I would not know which one to choose if I had to (although I do hate chain maintenance..).
Awesome, great to own both 👍🏼
Both beautiful machines, I love both and have been looking at both actually a few years ago. I've chosen an "older" V7 Racer from 2014, which I absolutely love and I really want to keep that one.
Again both bikes are superb and I might have bought the Triumph one, however I feel that the Triumph is a thorough modern bike with old looks, and the Guzzi is more like an old bike which has been updated all the time. Feels more genuine. I've always had oldtimer bikes/cars and the V7 really gives that "classic" feel because of it's character, but with modern reliability and modern brakes.
I own both bikes (but used) along with a Interceptor 650. I'm doing an ongoing series comparing all three. They're really such totally different machines.