I'm livid with Schneider. The offensive line is just awful. Been 10 years since the Unger trade. This needs to be fixed. Geno gets hurt, and Howell gets destroyed because the interior can't block. We have wasted K9, and we are wasting our other offensive talent as well.
There are a large amount of 12s that thought the OLine was fixed and Laumea was the answer. Same folks that thought Jarrell was the answer after one game. Stop drinking the kool aid. We don’t have the talent on the OL, period. We need a C, 2 Gs, and maybe even a new RT. Schneider better spend some money in the off-season, because I don’t trust our GM/scouts to identify quality players, or the coaches to develop them.
He has improved but he gets into his head and makes stupid mistakes/critical errors. I swear every 4-5 games he plays like crap and in between that stretch he has 2-3 bad plays every game.
Seahawk fan since 1983 season (Curt Warner's rookie year). First time I've seen Sam Howell (for any real length of time). He looks short, narrow-shouldered, slow-footed, and weak-armed. In contrast he makes Geno look like a giant with a cannon arm.
From a Packers fan that randomly got recommended this by RUclips, pretty good vid, I watched to the end, I subbed, I'll have you be my Seahawks news guy. Anyway, I will say it's hilariously ironic that so many Packers fans were there tonight, because the millisecond that the Packers started struggling this season, and especially last season, the season ticket holders deserted them, every Lambeau games was packed with the visiting teams fans- it's absolutely disgusting for a fanbase, any fanbase, to so readily abandon their team. Well I guess Jets or Raiders fans it's understandable, but for any other decent team it's disgusting.
Thank you we appreciate it ! The tickets are so expensive! I actually won 4 tickets from the Seahawks but would have had to pay 8k value in income tax. No thanks lol
When have the packers struggled this season tho? Any loss has pretty been close. The lions game had a ton of their fans but it’s their best team ever, so those fans are eager to travel
Lions wasn’t that embarrassing. The others sure. But the lions didn’t beat us by more than I think people thought they would. Like it wasn’t like it was some 40 pt blowout
I’m not shocked. This team was not ready at all to face real Super Bowl level competition and probably won’t be at that level of play for quite some time. Also, the hawks have to seriously consider Riqs future on this team
What pissed me off the most was the number of so-called season ticket holder fans selling their tickets to Cheese heads. Embarrassing, I no longer have us a top 5 home team in the NFL.
How do you know if a ticket holder sells or gives away tickets? So you cannot share tickets with another individual. Yeah, would be nice to have a packed crowd, but if people want to sell their tickets -- they can do that. Seattle is not good enough as a team to pack the stadium, that is the main problem.
@@glow4417this was never a problem in the pre Carrol and Carrol issue even when we were 7-9… this is the fucking fans who don’t give a shit and wait for the team to do good to get loud. That’s not good logic at all
Why do we suck at home? We’re 5-1 on the road, 3-5 at home…why? Are we complacent at home? Do we play with a chip on our shoulder on the road? Craziness. The last 3-4 years playing at home has gotta be one of the worst stretches in the history of this *stadium. Since 2002 the 12th man has really showed out. What is happening 😢
Howell was on the field for more points than Geno (7 to 6). You obviously forgot when Geno was losing the game 20-6 before howell took his first snap of the year.
He hasn’t played all year the packers were getting good pressure and had good coverage, the o line is just bad, and somehow geno makes them look better than what they actually are, I like Sam but he definitely held the ball too long and pre determining his throws he either isn’t ready to be a nfl qb or never will be a starting qb
Because John Schneider is the most overrated GM in the league. We have not had a super bowl caliber team in a decade, yet here he is firing coaches because they "under performed". Not saying Pete should not have been let go, but this is a JV roster at best that John has put together
@@jacobchamberland8099 You do realize though that the only job a backup QB has is to be ready to play. Not to be good, or great even, just to be ready to play. It was very apparent that Howell was not even close to be ready to play. He struggled to even get a pass off for what, two series? That is pathetic. That isn't a backup, that's a practice squad QB. This isn't a Howell problem, it's a John Schneider problem. The front office has failed this team for far too long.
If you watch closely. Woolen is lazy. He gives up on plays and doesn’t give a full effort. That holding penalty down on the 5yard line-ish was just egregious! He looks lost!
The fan problem is simple. Show people an interesting product, and they will come. I feel the team slapped me in the face for expecting even a competitive game. I understand why people won't go
Bro that’s a not an excuse we were just on a 4 game win streak and finished sweeping a division rival. If there was a game to get excited about this was it
@@burgbudz4203 And I was excited, like I was for the lions, 49ers, and even bills. I want to see a fun and entertaining games. But then as soon as those games started, we got blown out. I'm on board with this proof of concept year, but it gets so tough when you think the team has turned the corner and are making strides and then they give you what we got on Sunday. I saw no fight in them last night
@@Matthew-xh3rm I def know what you mean it hard seeing your team lose, I’m sure no one wants to see that but no one can tell how a game is gonna go before it starts. If you’re a fan support your team period. Don’t just start selling season tickets to opponents because you’re disappointed in a few games and have a bad feeling. Hawks are starting to turn into fair weather fans smh
It was like we weren’t prepared, we knew the type of game the Packers were coming in with and we did nothing. I’ve taken Geno’s side but those red zone interceptions are not excusable we have to draft next QB and continue building the O-line
@@darrellwoodson7904 I think they said he leads the nfl in red zone turnovers over the last 2 years? They were definitely showing some disturbing int stats for smith during the game i remember that lol
@@Dreadeyeknight Yep 4 of them this year, I know he is up against the OLine issue as well and Grubb is hit or miss but he has been in league long enough to just get rid of the ball, those INT's especially the pick six against FTR was back breaking.
@@zackbleecker7630 Right i completely agree Smith SHOULD know better But he obviously doesn't Hawks definitely need to move on from him as soon as they can
Riq needs to change his name back to Tyriq. He's been the softest, laziest, weakest player on our defense since. Can't make a tackle and can't guard anyone without help. No more excuses for him, idc what his pff grade are he's been ass all season. Let daddy witherspoon guard 2 guys at once instead of woolen getting on the field. Fml. Go hawks.
or Reek like Game of Thrones till he decides to invest in his game and the team. Till then I think fans and some of his own teammates are over his crap.
Trade riq for a 2-3 invest in Qb, Line, and I know Byron is a rookie but I haven’t seen much from him I feel he gets taken out of the play all the time
@@jarrettchristensen_music Carter was literally a few seconds away from handing the Steelers a chance to get right back in it (PF was ruled during the kick when about 70% of the time that would be 15 and a first down), still a giant no thanks I mean you got probs with Riq, Murph, and some members of the D now..............................
I love schneider but I think it might be time for him to go so we can get a gm that is more in line with the type of personnel that mcdonald wants and needs. I dont want another 5th rnd conversion project for our top oline pickup this year. This game is won in the trenches, not the periphery, and schneider doesnt seem to understand that. grubb needs to find a new job as well, he is partly to blame for this terrible oline, as it's his job to get them in sync and ready. He is also a terrible game caller, just doesn't understand his own team nor the situation we are in. Just time to go, nice little experiment from college but it didn't work
Well... We got to demonstration of just how many flaws Geno has been covering up for the offensive line. They look awful with a QB who's elite at avoiding pressure, when Howell came in it was laughable... You'd think GB has an elite pass rush
@@JordanM-xq7vnGeno didn’t play good but don’t credit Howell for that TD, that was the fumble and a Charbonnet 20+ yard TD run. Geno is way better than Howell
Not surprised! Olu got hurt, then Geno! O-line didn't play well! We are still a few pieces away from being a real contender! A couple of draft classes and seasoning for the coach and staff.
I’m sick of seeing our GM trade draft capital for band-aids when a complete tear-down is needed. No more band-aids. Set the goal for four or five years down the road and trade everyone that costs significant salary for draft capital.
Needs a change of ownership. Couldn’t believe my ears watching the game: “Go Pack Go!” Unbelievable how expensive tickets are, and season ticket holders who don’t even care about our team turn around and sell them to opposing fans. Not to mention the surplus of the tech industry bringing in randoms that buy the tickets cuz they have money. Genuinely makes me sad. Can’t wait for next week when I’m at the game and can make up for 20 of our missing 12’s. Childhood going down the drain. Jodi needs to make an administrative change, or sell the damn team.
Brendon You act like this team is an elite team. They are not! New coaches and new system. It’s going to take time to build this team. They haven’t played any team that is elite besides Detroit and Buffalo and they were smoked in each game. GB was a true test. If you thought this team was going to do something this year, you are dreaming. This game was nothing more than experience for a young team. You like the line when we do well then hate on them when they lose. You have a rookie starting at guard a second year man at center ( who got hurt) and a washed up left guard in LT. what do you expect? This team will grow and learn from these games. We have good coaches and that is a plus. Did you expect a deep dive into playoffs year one? Come on man. Doesn’t work that way. They will learn from this. Go Hawks!
Agreed, Pete's first year was no different, they got alot of weeding out to do still within the organization and that isn't lost on them. Guys like Woolen not showing up to play, that wont fly with any team in the NFL, you know its bad when Mr. Positivity Pete benched you, at this point its becoming clear his talent will be held back by his head. Hopefully going into next year with money off the books they can actually have an off season of major reshuffling and adding/subtracting.
Demeco Ryans got to the divisional round in year 1 I had this team winning 8 to 9 games this season. But I just hate to see a late season collapse looming like last year It was 6-3 last year, now it’s 8-5.. and we are going to shit the bed
100% blame the season ticket holders. Enough of the fair weather bs. No matter how good or bad the Seahawks are we’re the 12s for a reason. Season ticket holders are soft and money hungry
Why do we not use Metcalf? I get it jsn is going off right now . But Metcalf is our best player and we can’t design shit for him? The run defense was awful too but tbf it’s hard to win 5 games in a row
Nice video. Did anyone notice that on Doubs' touchdown at the end of the 1st quarter, it looked like Riq Woolen actually helped him into the end zone? Like, he wasn't pulling him down, he was pushing him into the end zone. Also, fans need to stop with the Roy Robertson-Harris crap. All these fans that defend him as "holding his ground" - you have no idea what you're talking about. He's horrible. I watched Jacobs run right by him, a foot away from him, and RRH can't get off his blocks. It was almost like the GB o-line plan was to create a gap right next to RRH and have Jacobs hit it and just assume RRH wouldn't be able to get off his block. Finally, it's a good thing that Ernest Jones is a playmaker with good leadership skills, because he's horrible at tackling in the open field. Also, what was Derrick Hall doing playing defensive tackle on goal line? Josh Jacobs went right by him while he was getting pushed back.
I love my Hawks…win or lose,I’m in. That being said,I never had this game pinned for a “W”. I haven’t seen enough from them consistently to feel like we were gonna win that game. However,I didn’t think it would have gone as bad as it did. I mean this was really bad. Also,I was unaware that a bulk of the fan base wanted to see Howell take the reins. To me,Geno is the notably superior player. I will say that prior to last night I had confidence in Howell to perform well if Geno ever went down. But that showing by him tonight erased any & all confidence that I had in his abilities as a backup. And his immobility really put on full display the ineptness of the o-line. But going back to my original point,I never had this game as a win,and oddly enough,I felt like our chances were better against Minnesota. Sounds crazy I know,but that’s strictly my opinion. Not forcing it on anyone.
I think you’re being a little hard in the team as a whole. The first half was an abysmal start but the defense really turned in on into he’s Rodney half and if we had Geno I actually feel good about a potential comeback just like we had against the Jets. If Geno is 100% next week I like our chances but if not, season is probably done.
@ The defense was getting stop after stop in the second half but the offense couldn’t do a damn thing with Howell but even Charbs was going off toward the end. Either Geno I think we actually win this game on a classic Geno game winning driv.
@@scvboy1 True. The bottom fell out offensively that is. The defense did everything they could to keep us in that one, and that goes a lot to Mike being disciplined with the D.
A lot of problems on this team. I do feel like we rely too much on Jsn. We have dk and Lockett still but def all that is affected due to our oline. I hope this is a wake up call to Schneider because we been having this issue for so long. All in all the team just looked sluggish and we just got pushed around
We lost the trenches both sides of the ball. Reason why we lost. We saw what geno can do with protection. It all starts in the trenches. Simple bull rush and our o line cant even block for 2 seconds.
It was more like 60-65% Packers fans there. The 12s were an obvious minority in our own stadium and on "Fan Appreciation Night," no less. Great production quality. Drone show was pretty cool. This was a crappy remake of the Thanksgiving night game against the Niners last season. Everything about going to the game was incredibly fun and festive and made you feel proud to be a Seahawks fan... until the game itself actually started. Seriously, the only thing missing for both games, was arguably the most important element: The team. Regarding John Schneider, I'd be disappointed if the ownership doesn't look at other available options during the offseason. He's had a decade to rebuild the offensive line since the ill-fated Unger-for-Graham trade and has failed miserably. If Pete was shown the door, I would more than understand the Hawks showing JS the same fate. The Super Bowl victory was awesome, but times have changed. The era of "Beast Quake" loud fans showing up for the Hawks is OVER. Tonight, I went to a Packers home game that wasn't held at Lambeau Field. On "Fan Appreciation Night," ironically no fans got shown more appreciation than the GB fans. Inexcusable, no matter how frustratingly inconsistent our Seattle team has been for this season and for the past several seasons. Season ticket holders who sell the majority of their tickets to opposing fans (Bills, Packers, etc.) need to have their seats revoked. This complete lack of home field advantage should not be allowed to continue by any responsible ownership group, period.
I wish people would STOP complaining about Grubb. The OC is only as good as the OL Players are. 7 Sacks means the OL sucks. We can't win any games at HOME, the field where 12's rule.
I'll tell you what your problem is brendon. You only know hawk football. Packers pass rush has only been lackluster because they switched from a 3-4 to a 4-3 and their edge rushers are adjusting to it. You also thought Jordan Love was a turnover machine and that wasn't true either. He hasn't thrown a pick in 4 games now. You gotta actually watch more than just the hawks. Not to mention you talk about fan turn out and YOU dont even go to the games yourself. So its hypocritical
I bought some game tickets from a season ticket holder and went out to support the Hawks. screamed my ass off all game. Stayed till the end too! So some of us are trying to be good fans. It was tough though they're certainly was a solid loud bunch of Packers peeps surrounding me. When the Seahawks offense was on the field hardly anybody got loud for our team. It was pretty rough. Definitely can see how different it was from the past.
That was a disgusting performance on so many levels. Woolen is the biggest steaming pile of 💩 on our whole team. We need two new QB’s. And a new O line. We need a LOT!
I'm not a local, but I remember when the Sehawks couldn't be beat at home and had the loudest fans in the league. What's different? Why are the visitors fans always outshining the hosts?
If you think Geno's RZ ints are the most noteworthy thing to mention about this offense, then perhaps you should buy a ticket and actually watch a game.
@BinaryDigit09 if you think that's the only issue with Geno you should find a new hobby. He sucks. He's a bottom tier QB who's cost Seattle a min of 4 games this year. He's only looked good in 2 maybe 3 games this year. He only looked good in maybe 5 games last year and 7 the year before. He's a dimensioning product that is itching closer to 40. He is not going to win anything and any team who has Geno as their leader will be in the Jeff Fisher limbo forever. The best he'll guide a team too is .500 ball. You cannot win with him at QB. It is that simple! You Geno Stans know so little about football it's laughable.
Brendon, I don't understand your attitude toward Gino Smith. He forced the ball in the red zone and the Hawks were driving early in the game. Our secondary players need to be looking for the ball. 1 target to Lockett isn't enough! I agree with your thoughts on Woolen...he should be on the bench!
Yeah, from someone who coaches himself, Sam looked "cold," and was very obvious he didn't get many reps in practice prior. That's on the coaching staff.
Hearing "Go pack go" in the stadium was just disgusting
Absolutely embarrassing.
Tell me about it I was there and it was embarrassing
What section were you at? 320 was literally all packers
@@milesgill1
Well maybe if the hawks were as ready as they SHOULD be the packer fans would be quite
@@milesgill1 i was in section 139 n we were surrounded
I'm livid with Schneider. The offensive line is just awful. Been 10 years since the Unger trade. This needs to be fixed. Geno gets hurt, and Howell gets destroyed because the interior can't block.
We have wasted K9, and we are wasting our other offensive talent as well.
@@ConsiderFeynman facts the people saying to start sam howell is crazy. without geno the offence will suffer fs
I agree with you 100 % I am done with jhon he cant build an online I am tired of it
Couldn’t agree more!!!
Sam Howell is 1/2 as good as Geno. Say what ya want about Geno… Fuck Chris Collinsworth as well
There are a large amount of 12s that thought the OLine was fixed and Laumea was the answer. Same folks that thought Jarrell was the answer after one game. Stop drinking the kool aid. We don’t have the talent on the OL, period. We need a C, 2 Gs, and maybe even a new RT. Schneider better spend some money in the off-season, because I don’t trust our GM/scouts to identify quality players, or the coaches to develop them.
Woolen was a disaster!
+ the whole offense. I don‘t wanna hear any „Sam Howell“ comments anymore
He was the Geno Smith/Sam Howell of the defense.
What happened to him?! He was practically rookie of the Year!
I think the worst thing is how Seattle doesn't have home field advantage anymore. At least not like it used to be
team is a pretender why would people show up if they cant win a game againsta good team for years..
Browns stadium still packs with browns fans, and you know them
@@NarutoOnlineGermany lol neither can GB. name one good team GB beat all year? Seattle has major injury issues all season long.
Woolen gives up on plays and seems confused and lost. There's nothing left.
I agree that was a very very bad game
The fall off of Riq Woolen is one of the most confusing things right now. What happened to this guy.
He’s trash he hasn’t learned anything in three years. Technique hasn’t improved at all
He's soft and mentally weak. Don't be suprised if he gets traded.
He has improved but he gets into his head and makes stupid mistakes/critical errors. I swear every 4-5 games he plays like crap and in between that stretch he has 2-3 bad plays every game.
@@Richard-il6wcIt’s just a waste of talent. A corner that’s his size with that speed is a dream in the NFL. Dude can’t cover or tackle for shit
lack of effort
Yup, done with Woolen.
I don’t want 27 on this team next season
No one with a brain does. Especially after paying him big money. Just wished we could’ve got good trade value for him
I hope we draft jacobee bryant 🙏🏾
Or 7.
@@tommyjames2448Geno is not the problem shut up bro🤦♂️
@Espo898 he's 34/35 and has never won a big game or beaten a good team in his entire 12 year career. GTFOH you casual Geno stan.
Trade Riq Woolen for a bag of chips
Literally a 6th round pick would be worth not having him on the team
C'mon, only a bag of chips? At least hold out for a used condom as well... 💩
Seahawk fan since 1983 season (Curt Warner's rookie year). First time I've seen Sam Howell (for any real length of time). He looks short, narrow-shouldered, slow-footed, and weak-armed. In contrast he makes Geno look like a giant with a cannon arm.
@@robinkomoto5573
Hawks definitely need a new qb next year i agree
Yea, I was not impressed with Howell, not sure why the Seahawks or anyone else thought he was good.
Stop lying
And yet he led the offense to more points than Geno. Neither QB is the answer. They both suck.
@@Dreadeyeknight2 QBs a starter and a backup
Happy that we have JSN that’s about it
From a Packers fan that randomly got recommended this by RUclips, pretty good vid, I watched to the end, I subbed, I'll have you be my Seahawks news guy.
Anyway, I will say it's hilariously ironic that so many Packers fans were there tonight, because the millisecond that the Packers started struggling this season, and especially last season, the season ticket holders deserted them, every Lambeau games was packed with the visiting teams fans- it's absolutely disgusting for a fanbase, any fanbase, to so readily abandon their team. Well I guess Jets or Raiders fans it's understandable, but for any other decent team it's disgusting.
Thank you we appreciate it ! The tickets are so expensive! I actually won 4 tickets from the Seahawks but would have had to pay 8k value in income tax. No thanks lol
When have the packers struggled this season tho? Any loss has pretty been close. The lions game had a ton of their fans but it’s their best team ever, so those fans are eager to travel
This was a game I turned off early
😂
I wish I would have turned it off at the end of the first half
after the red zone pick I said yea it’s time to go to bed early lol
I really HATE these embarrassing losses. Lions, Giants, Niners, Bills, and Rams losses make being a Hawk fan hard.
Fr, and we always get embarrassed on primetime too
Lions wasn’t that embarrassing. The others sure. But the lions didn’t beat us by more than I think people thought they would.
Like it wasn’t like it was some 40 pt blowout
I’m not shocked. This team was not ready at all to face real Super Bowl level competition and probably won’t be at that level of play for quite some time. Also, the hawks have to seriously consider Riqs future on this team
@@TrampConnoisseur
Well said i agree with every word
Fr, Riq is more aura than actual play
We lost the line of scrimmage both sides of the ball. John schneiders mindset on not paying oline is paying dividends
for what it is worth Brandon, I really enjoy watching you rip this team. Makes the loss go down easier lol
His name is Brendon
What pissed me off the most was the number of so-called season ticket holder fans selling their tickets to Cheese heads. Embarrassing, I no longer have us a top 5 home team in the NFL.
It’s the holidays….lots of people have much more important things to do…no fault if you can’t go and need to sell….
Not even a top 20 fan base
@@brianmyers4444ehhh it’s a 3-4 hour event weeks before the holidays. This was a game people could make
@@trentwise3762 try ten days and clearly many could not.....
@@brianmyers4444no season ticket holders should not be able to sell. There supposed to be fans.
In my opinion if a ticket holder sells more than 50% of their season tickets, they shouldn’t be allowed to renew next year.
How do you know if a ticket holder sells or gives away tickets? So you cannot share tickets with another individual. Yeah, would be nice to have a packed crowd, but if people want to sell their tickets -- they can do that. Seattle is not good enough as a team to pack the stadium, that is the main problem.
@@glow4417this was never a problem in the pre Carrol and Carrol issue even when we were 7-9… this is the fucking fans who don’t give a shit and wait for the team to do good to get loud. That’s not good logic at all
woolen looked so bad man
Loss to a good team, if anything man it showed how good Geno is playing infront of that line. Red zone picks need to stop though.
Idk. geno didn’t play great. I can’t put that blame on him completely. The play calling is not good. But I don’t think geno helped
It shows how bad our o line is
Woolen is turning into tre flowers 🤦♂️
Bench Woolen. Now.
Yeah, he's cooked
Yeah play burns.
Bench on the bus outta town!
Lmao I don’t think you try to be funny but you’re one of the funniest sports content creators I know
Seriously he cracks me up also
Woolen is trash 🚮
Why do we suck at home? We’re 5-1 on the road, 3-5 at home…why? Are we complacent at home? Do we play with a chip on our shoulder on the road? Craziness. The last 3-4 years playing at home has gotta be one of the worst stretches in the history of this *stadium. Since 2002 the 12th man has really showed out. What is happening 😢
played easy teams on the road and the harder teams at home..... Hawks haven't beaten a good team in a while.
I was at the game and there were more packers fans than Seahawks fans. Our fans don’t show up.
IM SO SICK OF THIS OLINE! THEY COULDNT BLOCK FOR SHIT!
Remember when Lock beat the eagles? That was awesome
I think John is gonna try to bring Lock back.
@@Richard-il6wc Assuming JS isn't let go before next season.
@@jacobdavis3876we wouldn’t have let him walk in FA if the FO thought he was worth anything, we are def drafting a QB
@@Pipsqueak- all i read was FAFO. sounds abt right.
@@Richard-il6wc Lock will not be back lol
Being down 2-3 scores by the half is something I’ve sadly become accustomed to
My hope is since this oline is absolutely recordly bad this year that it will finally convince John to finally address this in the offseason
Yeah, the O-line is non-existent, but I do not, DO NOT want to hear someone say that Howell should start over Geno EVER again.
Fire John Schneider and Grubb
Schneider should’ve been fired a long time ago after he destroyed the Super Bowl 48 team.
@jacksonstock7997 facts he is the worst GM in the league I hope Mike calls Jody and gets him fired same with Grubb what a joke.
@OmariThePrince he ain't the worst gm in the league but he is the most OVERRATED GM in the league
This is Grubbs first year we have to see what he can do with a good o line first
where are the start Howell comments ? lets go get Drew Lock back man lol
I would like to see that while Geno is down.
Howell was on the field for more points than Geno (7 to 6). You obviously forgot when Geno was losing the game 20-6 before howell took his first snap of the year.
@ nb cares about a garbage time touchdown bro
Right… crickets
@@GreenBeanGreenBean & it was a rushing touchdown lmfao ur ignant
Why is Sam Howell on the roster? It is genuinely difficult to look that bad as an nfl qb. I know the o-line sold but my god
the guys first snaps of the year. Bo Nix also looked like trash in his first game.
He hasn’t played all year the packers were getting good pressure and had good coverage, the o line is just bad, and somehow geno makes them look better than what they actually are, I like Sam but he definitely held the ball too long and pre determining his throws he either isn’t ready to be a nfl qb or never will be a starting qb
Because John Schneider is the most overrated GM in the league. We have not had a super bowl caliber team in a decade, yet here he is firing coaches because they "under performed". Not saying Pete should not have been let go, but this is a JV roster at best that John has put together
Well I mean he is a back up qb for a reason
@@jacobchamberland8099 You do realize though that the only job a backup QB has is to be ready to play. Not to be good, or great even, just to be ready to play. It was very apparent that Howell was not even close to be ready to play. He struggled to even get a pass off for what, two series? That is pathetic. That isn't a backup, that's a practice squad QB. This isn't a Howell problem, it's a John Schneider problem. The front office has failed this team for far too long.
If you watch closely. Woolen is lazy. He gives up on plays and doesn’t give a full effort. That holding penalty down on the 5yard line-ish was just egregious! He looks lost!
I think Woolen is still drunk off his rookie year as if no one will target him. Newsflash!!! Bro you’ve been trash since your sophomore yr!
The fan problem is simple. Show people an interesting product, and they will come. I feel the team slapped me in the face for expecting even a competitive game. I understand why people won't go
Bro that’s a not an excuse we were just on a 4 game win streak and finished sweeping a division rival. If there was a game to get excited about this was it
@@burgbudz4203 And I was excited, like I was for the lions, 49ers, and even bills. I want to see a fun and entertaining games. But then as soon as those games started, we got blown out. I'm on board with this proof of concept year, but it gets so tough when you think the team has turned the corner and are making strides and then they give you what we got on Sunday. I saw no fight in them last night
@@Matthew-xh3rm I def know what you mean it hard seeing your team lose, I’m sure no one wants to see that but no one can tell how a game is gonna go before it starts. If you’re a fan support your team period. Don’t just start selling season tickets to opponents because you’re disappointed in a few games and have a bad feeling. Hawks are starting to turn into fair weather fans smh
It was like we weren’t prepared, we knew the type of game the Packers were coming in with and we did nothing. I’ve taken Geno’s side but those red zone interceptions are not excusable we have to draft next QB and continue building the O-line
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I think they said he leads the nfl in red zone turnovers over the last 2 years?
They were definitely showing some disturbing int stats for smith during the game i remember that lol
@@Dreadeyeknight Yep 4 of them this year, I know he is up against the OLine issue as well and Grubb is hit or miss but he has been in league long enough to just get rid of the ball, those INT's especially the pick six against FTR was back breaking.
@@zackbleecker7630
Right i completely agree
Smith SHOULD know better
But he obviously doesn't
Hawks definitely need to move on from him as soon as they can
Jsn save's Gino from a pic.Then geno throws a interception right back to the same spot. Brandon , you can at least call himount.
Geno. Brendon. Should I call you Erin?
Riq “shoot” Woolen is 🗑️
Woolen soft and he has to go
As tissue! Plays scared of contact and he has learn anything since he’s was drafted. No technique or IQ at all
Riq needs to change his name back to Tyriq. He's been the softest, laziest, weakest player on our defense since. Can't make a tackle and can't guard anyone without help. No more excuses for him, idc what his pff grade are he's been ass all season. Let daddy witherspoon guard 2 guys at once instead of woolen getting on the field. Fml. Go hawks.
or Reek like Game of Thrones till he decides to invest in his game and the team. Till then I think fans and some of his own teammates are over his crap.
I've heard him in an interview and he sounds straight up stupid
Was at the game so disappointed to see so many Packer fans
Yea, it's bad, these people with season tickets selling their tickets online to the opposing team for $200-300
Trade riq for a 2-3 invest in Qb, Line, and I know Byron is a rookie but I haven’t seen much from him I feel he gets taken out of the play all the time
If they had drafted Carter the d-line would be just fine. Spoon is good, but the defensive line is extremely inconsistent.
We’d get a compensatory draft pick if he walks in free agency.
@@spencerdoesntknowanything680 he's not a free agent until after next season
@@jarrettchristensen_music Carter was literally a few seconds away from handing the Steelers a chance to get right back in it (PF was ruled during the kick when about 70% of the time that would be 15 and a first down), still a giant no thanks
I mean you got probs with Riq, Murph, and some members of the D now..............................
I love schneider but I think it might be time for him to go so we can get a gm that is more in line with the type of personnel that mcdonald wants and needs. I dont want another 5th rnd conversion project for our top oline pickup this year. This game is won in the trenches, not the periphery, and schneider doesnt seem to understand that. grubb needs to find a new job as well, he is partly to blame for this terrible oline, as it's his job to get them in sync and ready. He is also a terrible game caller, just doesn't understand his own team nor the situation we are in. Just time to go, nice little experiment from college but it didn't work
When it comes to looking like clowns....those action green uniforms aren't helpful
Macdonald said geno’s knees structurally is probably ok
we should hire the chefis assistant gm as our new gm his name is Mike Borgonzi
Well... We got to demonstration of just how many flaws Geno has been covering up for the offensive line. They look awful with a QB who's elite at avoiding pressure, when Howell came in it was laughable... You'd think GB has an elite pass rush
the guys first snaps of the year. Geno was holding the ball and getting sacked
That was unwatchable qb play by Sam howl. A bunch of three and outs over and over again the man’s should not even be a back up
Kinda saw this coming. We can beat bad teams but can't step up to the good ones.
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The lions bills and packers pretty much showed us everything we need to know about the hawks
we lost to the NYG, that's pretty bad, at home I might add
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Right that ALSO showed us alot about the hawks i agree lmfao
Common man be truthful. Before the game you said packer were trash
@@markusoverly8898A now 2-12 NYG.
i really think geno wins that game but i think the defense adjusted well in the 2nd half showing that MM is the real deal
You’re out of your mind. We couldn’t score with him. Sam Howell led drive got us our first td
@@JordanM-xq7vnGeno didn’t play good but don’t credit Howell for that TD, that was the fumble and a Charbonnet 20+ yard TD run. Geno is way better than Howell
@@JordanM-xq7vnall sam did was hand the ball off to charbs lmao
@@JordanM-xq7vnwith geno we actually was able to get down the field 😂 and geno gets +10 in all attributes while down in a game
@@JordanM-xq7vnalso on genos red zone int fant got tackled and it wasn’t called
Special teams looked pretty good.
dickson was the best player on the field for sure
Left a watch party the beginning of 4th qtr and it was at my house. Still not sure what I just experienced for 3 qtrs.
Fire the entire O line.
Vikings may drop a 40+ burger on us! 😱🤦🏻
I won’t be shocked if we lose next week
no shit its the vikings
If Geno is out there is absolutely no chance they win
We are playing at home, so we will probably lose
I’d be shocked if we win. If Howell is out there he’s gonna get eaten alive by that Flores defense
I'd be shocked if we win
Not surprised! Olu got hurt, then Geno! O-line didn't play well! We are still a few pieces away from being a real contender! A couple of draft classes and seasoning for the coach and staff.
I’m sick of seeing our GM trade draft capital for band-aids when a complete tear-down is needed. No more band-aids. Set the goal for four or five years down the road and trade everyone that costs significant salary for draft capital.
Needs a change of ownership. Couldn’t believe my ears watching the game: “Go Pack Go!” Unbelievable how expensive tickets are, and season ticket holders who don’t even care about our team turn around and sell them to opposing fans. Not to mention the surplus of the tech industry bringing in randoms that buy the tickets cuz they have money. Genuinely makes me sad. Can’t wait for next week when I’m at the game and can make up for 20 of our missing 12’s. Childhood going down the drain. Jodi needs to make an administrative change, or sell the damn team.
Brendon
You act like this team is an elite team. They are not! New coaches and new system. It’s going to take time to build this team. They haven’t played any team that is elite besides Detroit and Buffalo and they were smoked in each game. GB was a true test. If you thought this team was going to do something this year, you are dreaming. This game was nothing more than experience for a young team. You like the line when we do well then hate on them when they lose. You have a rookie starting at guard a second year man at center ( who got hurt) and a washed up left guard in LT. what do you expect? This team will grow and learn from these games. We have good coaches and that is a plus. Did you expect a deep dive into playoffs year one? Come on man. Doesn’t work that way. They will learn from this. Go Hawks!
Agreed, Pete's first year was no different, they got alot of weeding out to do still within the organization and that isn't lost on them. Guys like Woolen not showing up to play, that wont fly with any team in the NFL, you know its bad when Mr. Positivity Pete benched you, at this point its becoming clear his talent will be held back by his head. Hopefully going into next year with money off the books they can actually have an off season of major reshuffling and adding/subtracting.
Agree. Your analysis of this team is spot on.
Demeco Ryans got to the divisional round in year 1
I had this team winning 8 to 9 games this season. But I just hate to see a late season collapse looming like last year
It was 6-3 last year, now it’s 8-5.. and we are going to shit the bed
100% blame the season ticket holders. Enough of the fair weather bs. No matter how good or bad the Seahawks are we’re the 12s for a reason. Season ticket holders are soft and money hungry
Why do we not use Metcalf? I get it jsn is going off right now . But Metcalf is our best player and we can’t design shit for him? The run defense was awful too but tbf it’s hard to win 5 games in a row
Nice video. Did anyone notice that on Doubs' touchdown at the end of the 1st quarter, it looked like Riq Woolen actually helped him into the end zone? Like, he wasn't pulling him down, he was pushing him into the end zone. Also, fans need to stop with the Roy Robertson-Harris crap. All these fans that defend him as "holding his ground" - you have no idea what you're talking about. He's horrible. I watched Jacobs run right by him, a foot away from him, and RRH can't get off his blocks. It was almost like the GB o-line plan was to create a gap right next to RRH and have Jacobs hit it and just assume RRH wouldn't be able to get off his block. Finally, it's a good thing that Ernest Jones is a playmaker with good leadership skills, because he's horrible at tackling in the open field. Also, what was Derrick Hall doing playing defensive tackle on goal line? Josh Jacobs went right by him while he was getting pushed back.
Idk feels like we lost to flags, woolen, check downs and run game
Tariq woolen is trash it’s like he hasn’t gotten better or learned anything since he’s been in the league. He plays soft
Our Defense can't bust up on a so so GB OL ? Wow, what did all the players do prior to the game, had a Blunt Party ?
Too much party in the night before when they're in a home game.
I love my Hawks…win or lose,I’m in. That being said,I never had this game pinned for a “W”. I haven’t seen enough from them consistently to feel like we were gonna win that game. However,I didn’t think it would have gone as bad as it did. I mean this was really bad. Also,I was unaware that a bulk of the fan base wanted to see Howell take the reins. To me,Geno is the notably superior player. I will say that prior to last night I had confidence in Howell to perform well if Geno ever went down. But that showing by him tonight erased any & all confidence that I had in his abilities as a backup. And his immobility really put on full display the ineptness of the o-line. But going back to my original point,I never had this game as a win,and oddly enough,I felt like our chances were better against Minnesota. Sounds crazy I know,but that’s strictly my opinion. Not forcing it on anyone.
I think you’re being a little hard in the team as a whole. The first half was an abysmal start but the defense really turned in on into he’s Rodney half and if we had Geno I actually feel good about a potential comeback just like we had against the Jets. If Geno is 100% next week I like our chances but if not, season is probably done.
I agree. The dynamic changes without Geno, but after geno was gone the bottom just fell out.
@ The defense was getting stop after stop in the second half but the offense couldn’t do a damn thing with Howell but even Charbs was going off toward the end. Either Geno I think we actually win this game on a classic Geno game winning driv.
@@scvboy1 True. The bottom fell out offensively that is. The defense did everything they could to keep us in that one, and that goes a lot to Mike being disciplined with the D.
Team fought. Defense got hit early and the offense is up in the air. LaFleur called a good game, on to MN!
This OLine and this College offense wasnt ready to show up
A lot of problems on this team. I do feel like we rely too much on Jsn. We have dk and Lockett still but def all that is affected due to our oline. I hope this is a wake up call to Schneider because we been having this issue for so long. All in all the team just looked sluggish and we just got pushed around
Can we start talking about the draft now?
New owner and GM
The soul of this team died with Paul Allen
Geno was only gonna be able to take hits for so long
the guy was losing 20-6 before he left anyways, including yet another red zone interception
You gotta appreciate what you have. QBs don’t grow on trees
We play so inconsistent
We lost the trenches both sides of the ball. Reason why we lost. We saw what geno can do with protection. It all starts in the trenches. Simple bull rush and our o line cant even block for 2 seconds.
Offense is way more disappointing, defense played good outside the 1st quarter
We had multiple chances to come back and win but Sam Howell is like a stone statue
The offense didn’t show up. The defense made enough stops to win. That final touchdown by Dobbs was impressive.
I hate the Action Green, it makes the loss even uglier 😅
As soon as the offense on the first drive, first play came out in shotgun. I knew it was gonna be ugly.
I think sam looked at least as good as geno
Well you're delusional. He threw just as many pics as Gino and he had way more incomplete passes and way more nearly intercepted passes.
This game made me drink my soul out and I'm not even a drinker that's how you know it's bad.
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It was more like 60-65% Packers fans there. The 12s were an obvious minority in our own stadium and on "Fan Appreciation Night," no less. Great production quality. Drone show was pretty cool. This was a crappy remake of the Thanksgiving night game against the Niners last season. Everything about going to the game was incredibly fun and festive and made you feel proud to be a Seahawks fan... until the game itself actually started. Seriously, the only thing missing for both games, was arguably the most important element: The team. Regarding John Schneider, I'd be disappointed if the ownership doesn't look at other available options during the offseason. He's had a decade to rebuild the offensive line since the ill-fated Unger-for-Graham trade and has failed miserably. If Pete was shown the door, I would more than understand the Hawks showing JS the same fate. The Super Bowl victory was awesome, but times have changed. The era of "Beast Quake" loud fans showing up for the Hawks is OVER. Tonight, I went to a Packers home game that wasn't held at Lambeau Field. On "Fan Appreciation Night," ironically no fans got shown more appreciation than the GB fans. Inexcusable, no matter how frustratingly inconsistent our Seattle team has been for this season and for the past several seasons. Season ticket holders who sell the majority of their tickets to opposing fans (Bills, Packers, etc.) need to have their seats revoked. This complete lack of home field advantage should not be allowed to continue by any responsible ownership group, period.
John Schneider has to go.
My biggest takeaway was that the people calling for Howell to start earlier in the season are extremely mentally challenged
This has been a recurring theme in our stadium this year. Where have the 12s gone?
Counterpoint: can we really blame the team for not being inspired to play at home when it's 75% opposing fans.
I wish people would STOP complaining about Grubb. The OC is only as good as the OL Players are. 7 Sacks means the OL sucks. We can't win any games at HOME, the field where 12's rule.
I'll tell you what your problem is brendon. You only know hawk football. Packers pass rush has only been lackluster because they switched from a 3-4 to a 4-3 and their edge rushers are adjusting to it. You also thought Jordan Love was a turnover machine and that wasn't true either. He hasn't thrown a pick in 4 games now. You gotta actually watch more than just the hawks. Not to mention you talk about fan turn out and YOU dont even go to the games yourself. So its hypocritical
I bought some game tickets from a season ticket holder and went out to support the Hawks.
screamed my ass off all game. Stayed till the end too! So some of us are trying to be good fans.
It was tough though they're certainly was a solid loud bunch of Packers peeps surrounding me. When the Seahawks offense was on the field hardly anybody got loud for our team. It was pretty rough. Definitely can see how different it was from the past.
Well yeah, the fans aren’t supposed to be loud on offense. I was at the game too.. and it’s embarrassing
That was a disgusting performance on so many levels. Woolen is the biggest steaming pile of 💩 on our whole team. We need two new QB’s. And a new O line. We need a LOT!
Nwosu was super slow. Someone faster could have stopped a few of those runs
Best comment we don’t have to hear about Sam Howell ever again!!
The offence is out coached. Geno and Sam int took the life out of the team and 12. Seahawks lost because the INT QB shows up on game day.
I was there! Greenbay was everywhere.
I'm not a local, but I remember when the Sehawks couldn't be beat at home and had the loudest fans in the league. What's different? Why are the visitors fans always outshining the hosts?
Why would fans pay $500 per ticket on the resale market to go watch Geno throw another red zone int that costs us yet another game?
If you think Geno's RZ ints are the most noteworthy thing to mention about this offense, then perhaps you should buy a ticket and actually watch a game.
@BinaryDigit09 if you think that's the only issue with Geno you should find a new hobby. He sucks. He's a bottom tier QB who's cost Seattle a min of 4 games this year. He's only looked good in 2 maybe 3 games this year. He only looked good in maybe 5 games last year and 7 the year before. He's a dimensioning product that is itching closer to 40. He is not going to win anything and any team who has Geno as their leader will be in the Jeff Fisher limbo forever. The best he'll guide a team too is .500 ball. You cannot win with him at QB. It is that simple! You Geno Stans know so little about football it's laughable.
Brendon, I don't understand your attitude toward Gino Smith. He forced the ball in the red zone and the Hawks were driving early in the game. Our secondary players need to be looking for the ball. 1 target to Lockett isn't enough! I agree with your thoughts on Woolen...he should be on the bench!
Yeah, from someone who coaches himself, Sam looked "cold," and was very obvious he didn't get many reps in practice prior. That's on the coaching staff.
Riq woolen might be the next Tre flowers