Haha.. Funny comment.. What makes it funnier for me is that 'saad' is actually transliteration of Arabic word which conveys the meaning of joy or happiness 😂 😂
Reality is understood based on the available information at the time. It doesnt mean that what we understand about reality cant be altered based on new and evidenced information. Most of you ppl are just here for the comments and cheap jokes anyway.
Not here to say change your views, because they’re yours, but man. How can you see the liberal ecosphere nowadays and still call yourself a liberal? No attack, just a genuine question.
@@ultraf0rward being a liberal 20, 10, 5 years ago was so damn different than nowadays. I don’t associate myself with either left or right, I try to hear both sides but man is the left ever vastly losing me nowadays it’s wild.
@@ultraf0rward there's a different between a liberal and leftist. I don't consider what's happening in academy a liberal shift, but extreme left which in practice is on one end of the political field, being similar to far right. A couple of decades ago when censorship were prominently coming from the right wing, Libertarians weren't really at fault.
it's funny how ppl think if u're not a right wing trump supporter u have to hold certain views. i'm a more liberal leaning young black guy with breads, but i'm pro 2a. when i say i'm 2a online and ppl can see what i look like, i get called a raist whyte guy.😅🙋🏿♂️
Debt is measurable, gender is not, sex is. Can't fucking believe we STILL have to explain this to you guys, it's been years you still can't grasp the concept.
It's global cancer, spread by social media. It's the social cancer that looks and behaves like it's 'virtuous' but secretly super destructive. Just like cancer.
"If you're a man born in a womans body, that's biologically determined but if you're a woman born in a womans body, that's socially constructed?" - J. Peterson.
@@tshimomogudi51 I'll try, since english is my second language. What I think Jordan Peterson is referring to is this narrative that when a person feels like they belong to the opposite sex - that's natural. But if you're a person who doesn't have gender dysphoria and feel like you belong to the body you're born with - that is a social construct.
@That girl I've seen/heard the context. And you don't need the context because the meaning doesn't change. He is pointing out the inconsistency and hypocrisy of these lunatics. For instance... Boy: mummy I want to wear a dress because I'm a girl Mother: yes of course, you were born in the wrong body and you should have a sex change immediately Girl: mummy I want to wear a dress because I'm a girl. Mother: don't be so fking stupid, gender is a social construct.
as a biologist/scientist for 20yrs, i am so happy to see these topics be discussed rationally. for decades we've been strong-armed into pretending that truth is not truth and reality is not reality.
@XZDrake I dont think he is attacking the academic understanding of disphoria, but rather the way that some people pretend that what someone identifies as trumps observable reality. Biology shows that humans are a sexually dimorphic species, and gender disphoria is simply a condition that affects a small minority whose biological sex is at odds with their gender identity.
@XZDrake Dude, no _rational_ people are saying that. I think they are talking about the gender extremists who say gender is entirely a social construct, with zero to do with biology. These people may only be a vocal minority, but they certainly exist. I've had quite a few discussions with some of them right here on youtube. Even though the science disagrees, this is a core tenet of some forms of feminism. Just Google "gender is a social construct" and you'll find a bunch of essays saying it (saying biological sex has nothing to do with gender identity or gender roles) and, lower in the list, a bunch of articles showing how science disagrees. This is a very real phenomenon.
@XZDrake www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.washingtonexaminer.com/gender-isnt-some-social-construct-study-says%3F_amp%3Dtrue&ved=2ahUKEwj58ZPO_JnkAhXGwFkKHR-nA-IQFjAfegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw04rcKIM95Ij1wkQflgvTnf&cf=1 www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=qz.com/1190996/scientific-research-shows-gender-is-not-just-a-social-construct/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwj58ZPO_JnkAhXGwFkKHR-nA-IQFjAcegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw3YREiJWXrW-oaFHAi4B-LQ&cf=1 There are some clear biological imperatives in gender roles and tendencies, as _well_ as social influence determining some norms. To pretend that it is _all_ nurture or _all_ nature is the true lunacy. It's _both_ , because of thungs like hormones and differences in brain structure that are genetic and affect gender identity and behaviors as _well_ as environmental cues influencing behavior.
Cyberamp LGBT members aren’t psychos! We are people who were born a certain way like you actually have no clue about what we go through on a day to day basis! So stop gobbing off when you have no clue about it!
ClandestineOstrich stop labelling trans people like we are all individuals..... Transgender people are not all the same in fact some have other problems like me I have anxiety and depression that came with gender dysphoria
You've articulated why the liberal left view anything you will say as a threat. If you start an argument with insults and a demeaning tone, than no matter what you say is going to be viewed as wrong. If you would present a well meaning statement, than the left wouldn't treat you like a Nazi. Treating others like a human being means you will be treated like one. Don't, and they won't treat you like one.
Schools like that aren’t looking for the next great minds they’re looking for good workers with way above average intelligence in some areas but not critical thinking, they also want people who will sacrifice anything for something that isn’t tangible like a dream because these people are the best drones. It’s unfortunate that most intelligent people today are off drinking in a corner while college kids at the schools we used to dream of getting into are filled with college kids with the political knowledge of a Canadian/European 5 year old aka the political knowledge of the average fully grown american
No one is born in wrong body... that opens doors for all kinds of claims.... I was born in the wrong height Im supposed to be taller.... yeah but Im not so what now???
in the 60's when everybody wanted to feel special and unique and not part of mainstream society, they picked up a guitar, grew out their hair, tossed the suit and tie and started a band.
I'm trans and I agree with alot of these points. Not all trans people are thin-skinned, liberals. I have to keep telling myself alot of this confusion and disdain isn't directed towards me. I wish all this crazy social-war bullshit would stop. If only people could calm down and stop being such asshole, entitled and reactionary. Everyday America's bullshit is accepted in Australia and everyday the 'centre' and 'right' sides get slandered as extremist hate mongers. Thanks Joe, Thanks for not being so crazy. Thanks for still being a nice guy and understanding transgender-ism as real and not something to be hated.
Do you feel a rift between yourself and other people in your life because of their extreme ideologies? Or just avoid the touchy subjects? Do you still feel the same way since the crazy “kahuna varus” reaction by the Australian govt? That the craziness just comes from the USA?
@@jayjaydubful but no one is identifying with a different sex tho? The words gender and sex often get conflated to mean the same thing. And when you add the reactionary tendencies of many people they dont bother engage with the topic or theory. They just smuggly bathe in the mud of anti-intellectualism thinking theyre own biased intuition is the holy truthholder.
@@jayjaydubful because of how gender works alongside biological characteristics these genders stem from it is reasonable to assume that a person identifying with a certain gender and taking steps to change certain gendered characteristics to fit the socially constructed idea of what that gender should typically look like and/or act like would want to take part in spaces and have experiences that coincide with their identity.
I have a eight year old son. We had one talk about this topic. I simply told him there are males and females. Everyone else is crazy so he should just smile and Nod when they talk. And slowly walk backwards.
we need ways to treat these people who "identify" with crazy identities rather than placate them to soothe their distorted reality. everyone should be treated with respect and dignity, but twisting general realities to soothe the feelings of a very few people is simply complicating life for everyone.
@@susanbowman3865 I think the mess started when people started NOT doing time outs. If time outs were the problem, then what are you implying was the "correct" social behavior modifier before that... corporal punishment???
@@Sunset1705 when I grew up if our behavior warranted it we would get a good old fashioned spanking from time to time. Then afterwards we reflected on our choice to misbehave in such a manner. No one made us behave that way it was our choice and choices have consequences in the real world. BTW Moll’s I’m not condoning beating children. Thought I should mention that as you seem to have a vivid imagination ie “corporal punishment.”
And is a stark contradiction to the idea that sex and gender are different and you can be one sex but the opposite gender and they don't have to match. If they don't "match" (as in non-binary) then why do trans people want to get surgery so that their "body matches their brain"? Makes no sense.
More so that their brains are reliant on estrogen - whereas as a guy you produce testosterone. That's what's happening to my knowledge snd so far transitioning is the best remedy we know of. Undoubtedly different methods will come up eventually.
"We shouldn't change our understanding of reality to celebrate your unique personhood" -- once said much less eloquently by Dave Chappelle: "I support anyone's right to be who they want to be, but to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?"
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words.
"You should be able to free the world of bigotry without constantly attacking truth." Such powerful words. Unfortunately, people in general (regardless of political affiliation) are too angry, too lazy and too polarized to find this golden path.
As far as I'm concerned schools should be out of the business of teaching social values altogether. The hubris behind informing YOUR children of what they should believe and how they should think about these things is astonishing. If I send my kid to a school I want them to learn maths, English, science, art, music, whatever, but not this crap. This is beyond what a school should be responsible for. Children are being prepped to accept and engage with absolute insanity - these postmodern ideas about gender and sex, when they don't even know the basic ideas behind these two concepts. They need to stay grounded in reality to tackle these subjects, and instead they're being primed to accept it without question AS "reality". Anyone who thinks this is bullshit and who has the ability to do so should homeschool their children. It's the only way to cut this crap out of their intellectual diet. Prepare them to treat it for what it is - just another ideology in a sea of them, and a very poor one at that.
i think is called adoctrination, instead of teaching us how to do tax returns or basic ecomics to deal with the real world we get thought about stupid shit get brainwashed to fully accept things just because its "trendy"
Its all so confusing dude. I have 3 people in my life who are diagnosed with dysphoria, two have transitioned and the third is in the process of psych evaluation. Their pain is real, as is their dysphoria but the one thing they all have in common is that they're all male or female...It pains me to see their experiences trivialized by these so called activists who claim to be speaking in the best interest of a community that they dont actually belong to. Its sad dude. I'm a bi guy myself so I've always been pretty understanding of other LGBT people. I've always been pretty liberal when it comes to this stuff, but as of late I'm starting to wonder where we have to draw the line between struggle and delusion. Giving 5 year olds hormones and telling people that gender is always "fluid and endless" is a dangerous mindset. There is structural rigidity in gender for a reason - because gender is not personality. Its not infinitely fluid, its actually pretty cut and dry. You can be transgender, a misalignment of your chromosomes and brain structure/activity, but that doesn't mean we should assume that everyone who isn't perfectly masculine or feminine is somehow trans by definition. You can still just be a fem male without transitioning to female. You can still be a masculine "butch" female without being trans. Its crazy dude. I've really been worn lately after hearing some of these people speak. Its sad that making up fantasy genders is all that they have time and resources to do.
This is really powerful, but as another LGBTQ person don’t you think 2 cis straight people aren’t the best equipped the talk about this? How are these straight men any better than the straight activists?
@@natem2695 being something does not make one the best at speaking about it, quite often it can be blinding and cause cognitive-dissonance, resulting in the subject having blind spots in regards to their own existence/causalities/psychology. Two straight men are perfectly capable of discussing this matter, so said anything about them being ‘the best’? You blinkers have been revealed
There was a time where these (perfectly valid) fem males and masculine females would have been gay/lesbian or just bi. Now they are being told they are the opposite sex and in the wrong body. The whole thing is ridiculous and feels like an attempt by the global elite to further domesticate and medicalise its worker bee population. Whatever the reason for the corporate/societal drive behind this rapid change, one thing is for sure, it’s not out of concern for us/our happiness
@@natem2695 How do you not see what a stupid question that is to ask. So if an economist published a paper on black employment, he would be unqualified on the subject by virtue of being white?
Your post is eloquent and touched me as someone truly concerned about the community. How do we right the ship? For the actual dysphoria sufferers, we need to be helpful and tolerant. I also feel that introducing this to kids is a very dangerous thing. I mean young boys used to want to be cowboys and girls princesses. Teenagers have always been rebels and push the the boundaries… in my time it could be being a punk, goth, metal longhair, jocks etc.. when these kids reach 30,40, 50 they are not still goth, punk , etc. 99% are not. The danger is once your gender is altered , it’s not the same as cutting your hair or buying new clothes … we need to protect our vulnerable kids and not placate a whim or a fad. Again I am full in support of those who are truly suffering with this issue. It must be terrible, just don’t encourage kids to alter their bodies in ways that maybe the adult version may not have wanted.
Batman: Do you bleed? Superman: Batman: you will... once a month. Superman: Batman: Superman: Gender study at Martha University? Batman: Gender study at Martha University.
Lucky male lol no but seriously why in the world would some people want to transition from mtf and want everything that comes with the female gender like periods. Having pms and bleeding out once a month is fucking terrible.
It’s way more than physical/mental joe-its an existential disorder. For people who actually suffer from dysphoria, there is a perceivable incongruity between the person in actuality and their perception of self. And as someone who deals with real trans people daily, it absolutely is a disorder, and a catastrophic one at that. This “movement” is only making it harder for people who really deal with this issue. Note: And much to my dismay, transactivism has distanced dysphoria from the DSM-5, which is horrible.
That is the whole point Joe is making, it is a disorder - but the activism is saying it's not. Instead of accepting that this is a disorder and getting appropriate treatment, they are trying to change reality.
That's what happens when the vast majority of trans people have personality disorders. You can't just give people with BPD and narcissism everything they want. Their delusions aren't reality.
People should just be taught to accept themselves no matter how they feel. They should not be pushed or provoked persuaded that they have a "problem" that can be "fixed" by changing physical appearance. People are being taken advantage of and it's ridiculous
Gaad was getting into a pretty important issue of "default values" when it comes to biology and how we treat those who fall outside those default values. Basically, the trap (vicious cycle) we fall into is attempting to assign a positive or negative existential value to those people whose biology is a statistical anomaly for our species. Their anomalous traits are like any other range of biological traits that are more representative of humans. Their functional value will be determined only by the specific situations in which a given person with those traits operates. It is folly to try and value the trait at a class or group level. In other words, assess only the individual.
I had exactly this type of experience at the school where I teach. It was very disconcerting. I was in the corridor and three little girls in grade 2 (my students 6-7 years old) stopped to talk to me. Somehow the subject they were talking about to me (Believe me! I DID NOT bring this up!) was about becoming a parent, specifically, a father, and just as my principal was passing by, I said that when they grew up, they would not be fathers. They would be mothers. My principal stopped and said directly to me, "They can be fathers if they want. Yes, you know that. They can be fathers." I was literally stunned. It must have shown on my face. I almost asked if she were kidding, but then I remembered the Canadian law Bill C16 which Trudeau brought in in 2016 and it flashed through my mind that she was "right." I think the girls noticed this because one suddenly said, "I guess it's a choice." Except, it ISN'T "a choice!" Can you imagine confusing small children like that? To me, that is child abuse. You know, I have been reading about this sort of thing, but this event brought into "reality." In my opinion, an alternate reality where TRUTH has no place and ultimately is not a defense. I wonder what their parents would think if they had heard this conversation. S, I am asking all parents reading this, what do you think? I cannot and will not go along with this. I always reinforce their identities as boys and girls through my words - not as stereotypes, but as who they were born.
Being from Eastern Europe I'm a second hand spectator to all of this. The last few years in America in particular seem like an odd fever dream. I believe we've always been the same old degenerates but the 21st century lifestyle has made us that much more comfortable and lazy giving rise to these trends. Over here it's the exact opposite; gay pride parades are met with protests twice their size each year. I used to hope for a healthy equalibrium but now I'm too scared to risk becoming like the "woke" countries of the west. I fully believe you're taking the correct approach with these kids and I sincerely hope we're on the right side of history, for society's sake.
@@Joe-ut3sz We ARE on the right side of history! Genetics don't lie, no matter what you "feel" like on the inside. The whole basis of our identity starts at birth when people ask "Was it a boy or a girl?" Some people reading this comment might think that is stereotyping. Not at all. All children need to be encouraged in their interests no matter what sex they were born, but children are highly impressionable. They pretend lots of things - like being an animal or a superhero. If a boy says he is Superman and wants to jump off a roof and fly, as a parent, are you going to allow that? No, of course not. You'd correct him and tell him he cannot jump off a roof because while it's nice to pretend to be Superman, he is not ACTUALLY Superman, so he cannot jump off a roof. The same reasoning should apply if he comes home and says he is a girl and it should be explained that it is not possible genetically, no matter how he "feels" at that moment.
Notable psychological distress, can last the person's entire lifetime, some feel the need for chemical or surgical intervention, and those with or without intervention are at a disproportionately high risk of suicide. That sounds like a psychological disease to me.
How does 0.6%-7.0% (the estimated amount of people who are truly transgender) of the population have this much power? It's such a small population even at its highest estimate yet I feel like it has influenced so much of American society. I've had two very close friends growing up who are transgender and I have so much respect for them, do you know why? Because they just were what they were. They never attacked anyone, went through their days working hard with their heads down low, and didn't need anyone else's approval to be confident in who they were. When my friend first went female to male he gave me so many chances of accidentally misgendering him without freaking out because he understood that it was new for me also and habits take time to be broken. The most he would do is politely educate which would happen naturally out of people curiously asking questions because they weren't being forced perspectives (and weren't being forced to respect someone, respect is earned it can never be forced). There are so many situations going on today such as gang violence, absolute poverty, drug addiction, etc. that deserve the attention all these P.C topics have been getting.
That is a good question I have been wondering the same. Even the whole modern left movement doesn't have as many people as it seems to have, most people do not buy their ideology but they still have so much power, they are a small group but very loud. I think the reason why is because there are people behind making this happen, actually you can track down people donating insane amount of money to the movement, almost all mainstream media is on their side too so it gives the feeling like if most people have that mindset.
Armando this is 100% true. Jeff Bezos and his wife have both donated BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to these causes. So has George Soros and so many others. I love how they cry about how much big money the right is “funded by” when they are funded by even bigger amounts
8:23 So, it is listed as a condition, which is based off of data, but it's publicly shunned, which means the public must be right because they're offended, yes? I believe that is called "Mob mentality"
i absolutely agree with what Gad has said. I see gender dysphoria,as a similar phenomena as being Mentally disabled/challenged.LET ME EXPLAIN, we treat mentally challenged individuals as "normal" as possible. we acknowledge that they are not "normal" however,we dont treat them like theyre not human beings. Respect goes for everyone doesnt matter if youre "normal" ,mentally challenged, LGBT,colored,etc. theres a difference between acknowledging Gender Dysphoria,and bashing it.
I’m not happy with the general snarky tone of this conversation, but I’m so happy that they don’t care about my feelings. If there is ANYTHING that we need less of in America, it’s political correctness. It’s so good and so healthy to be having this non PC conversation out in the open.
Soon people are going to start robbing houses like “hey I self identify as the owner of this house. GTFO” Then it’ll be a hate crime if you don’t just give up everything. 🙄
I'm a 6" tall woman and I might feel more or less feminine day-by-day. It's not so extreme that my gender identity changes, but I certainly could see how someone trans/transitioning might go through changes depending on context or how they look/feel each day.
I'm a grandfather and this, what I call, "cultural terrorism" worries me greatly. The kids are going to be so confused and disoriented by it that I think it's bound to cause psychological/emotional issues. On the other hand I see increasing opposition to these destructive forces - the pendulum is about to swing the other way.
Sorry, but the pendulum isn't really swinging back the other way on gays, trans people, blacks, or any other group. It may swing a big but it never swings enough to make a huge difference. Gay marriage is here to stay. Trans people are here to stay. Blacks will continue to marry and mingle with whites. And the wheels of progress roll on. On the plus side, as an old man you won't be around much longer so your endless, pitiable anger will end with you.
Genitalia is one of many different things that *can be used* to define gender; but genitalia alone doesn't define gender. You don't go around looking at the genitalia of everyone you interact with to determine their gender, do you? You can almost always tell right away what gender someone is, without ever seeing what's in their pants. So to say genitalia defines gender is clearly disingenuous, wouldn't you agree? As for why anyone would have their genitalia changed, it's for the same reason they transition in any of the other ways: to feel more like their gender identity. The key word there is *more*--it makes them feel *more* like their gender. It alone isn't the end-all be-all of gender identity.
@@thesandravshow You already know the answer to that, otherwise you would never know or assume anyone's gender. What gender are your neighbors? Your coworkers? The person checking out your groceries? Do you stop and ask to look at any of their genitals before interacting with them? Of course not, like I said, you can already tell their gender without ever seeing their junk. So if you're not telling thier gender by their genitals, then what specific things about them that you are using to tell their gender?
@@thesandravshow You're referring to sex, not gender. The reason they use genitals to determine that is because newborns literally have no other visible differences. They don't have secondary sex characteristics, or voices, or clothing, or mannerisms, or anything else. If you covered up a newborn's genitals, you'd have no fucking clue what it's gender OR sex was. I don't see how that's even relevant, though, considering newborns and infants can't be trans. They don't even have genders in the first place at that stage. Not even 100 years ago, infants were all colloquially called girls and were dressed the same for that very reason.
I'm glad they are being nuanced about it and acknowledging gender dysphoria. I guess the real frustrating thing is that we can't all look at the situation the same way. Some people want to want to be nice, some people want to be mean, and some people want to strictly be empirical. It really bugs me that categorizing something as a disorder is unacceptable when it seems to really meet all the criteria. Meanwhile on the other end, people won't even acknowledge the dysphoria as real. It seems to mean a lot of different things to different people and until we can all agree to some objective standard, the issue will be relegated to echo chambers further dividing the dialogue.
I actually don't mind putting tampon dispensers in men's rooms, if we agree to supply them in the first place. Trans men who appear and live as men often still retain their original female bodily functions, ergo have periods and need tampons. The alternative is they go into the women's room while presenting as male and cause a disturbance.
Let people make their own decisions. Some people transition and find peace. That’s great. They don’t need your help. Some would transition and not find that peace. Help them. This isn’t complicated. And it shouldn’t be taboo or political.
@Go To I disagree with that sentiment. I see no noteworthy difference between that and refusing to recognise a gay person as gay - or a straight person as straight. Individuals have the right to their own identity. You may have a choice in what you call people, but some choices are obviously made to punish another person for their choices, to demean them as an individual, or to force their identity in a way that you approve. You can chose to call someone "Idiot" rather than their name for instance. But I think the correct response to this is to "compel" you to stop. It shows a lack of respect for the individual's (and I mean all individuals) right to their own identity. The reason I side with that side of the debate rather than yours is that their decision to make their own identity is an action independent of anyone else. The other side says that their right to call another person whatever they want is the same. I don't think it is. It's a reaction to someone else's choice, and a method of forcing that person's identity back to what YOU want, rather than what that person wants for themselves. And I think we should have more acceptance for choices people make for themselves rather than for choices people make when acting on another person. I think my line of reasoning makes sense. I value individualism, while recognising that we don't live in a vacuum by ourselves, and this is the conclusion its lead me to. I respect your decision as well provided it doesn't lead to open hostility or cruelty.
Highly recommend Herbert Von Guenter’s ‘Yuganaddha’ - a Tantric view of life. Very very sharp on foetal developments and the bio-psychology of what is then occurring. In truth I am unable to recreate it from memory - but it was riveting as a read and the man is a truly phenomenal scholar - a great penetrative mind.
I'm so glad that there is a respectful and reasonable understanding from these two men towards gender dysphoria and transgender living "We shouldn't change our understanding of reality to celebrate your unique personhood" Is so well spoken.
As a queer person, no this was not respectful in the least. “LGBTXYZ..” They are making fun of people like me, point blank. Then go on to preach their ideas about people they don’t know and experiences they have never had.
@@natem2695 I agree, I made this comment 2 years ago when I was trying to repress my identity or view it as a mental illness. I have since transitioned and find the sort of values held in this video as disrespectful to people they do not understand.
@@natem2695 Well, it's certainly funny when the movement is just adding on more and more letters just so it doesn't offend anyone. Maybe we will need to invent special letters, since the whole alphabet won't be enough. If you are offended by the mere fact that this is ridiculous and that it stops you from listening to the whole conversation, that seems like a you type of problem.
I am gay and had a transgender friend who was supported on his journey to change his gender. So he did. He became a she. After a few years as a woman she begun to hate her body yet again she ask doctors to reverse it and go back to male again. The answer was no, After she struggle to come to terms with the reality that the reassignment surgery was not reversible she ended her/his life. As a gay male I begun supporting transgenders but after his death and reading through her goodbye letter he left i have to speak up. Please do no patronized people who tell you they are something they are not!!! Do not be afraid! I feel responsible for his death! I wish would of told him to love himself as he was born! To love himself! I wish I could of advise him to be comfortable in his own skin and accept himself fully. I wish I could of told him no amount of surgeries or hormones will fix how we feel about ourselves. We need to love and accept ourselves as we are and the bodies we were born in. And we need people around us who tells us the truth no to fear offending us by telling us we are wrong! I fail my friend by going along with his wishes. I fail his family. But above all I fail myself for lying to a friend and patronizing him. From now on when asked I will not lie or please anyone I will call you by the gender you were born into even if you disagree with me. One death is far too many!
"You should be able to free the world of bigotry without constantly attacking truth." Amen! That's my new favorite quote! Preach it!
He seems kinda cheerful for a guy that was born Saad.
aaaaa hahahahahaha
@@agachic1 yeah, it's also got a different pronunciation than what everyone is thinking it is
lol
Oh my Gaad that's an awful pun
Haha.. Funny comment.. What makes it funnier for me is that 'saad' is actually transliteration of Arabic word which conveys the meaning of joy or happiness 😂 😂
"We shouldn't change our understanding of reality to celebrate your unique personhood"....Drops mic....
jimicheesecake I was about to quote this as well. Perfect.
Perfect quote.
Reality is understood based on the available information at the time. It doesnt mean that what we understand about reality cant be altered based on new and evidenced information. Most of you ppl are just here for the comments and cheap jokes anyway.
andre paige Woah buddy, whad’ya mean by “you people”?
The reality is you people are retards and insane if you follow this ideology
I'm a liberal, but seriously, seems the world has gone crazy.
Thank you Joe and Gad for the interesting conversation!
Not here to say change your views, because they’re yours, but man. How can you see the liberal ecosphere nowadays and still call yourself a liberal? No attack, just a genuine question.
@@ultraf0rward being a liberal 20, 10, 5 years ago was so damn different than nowadays. I don’t associate myself with either left or right, I try to hear both sides but man is the left ever vastly losing me nowadays it’s wild.
@@ultraf0rward there's a different between a liberal and leftist. I don't consider what's happening in academy a liberal shift, but extreme left which in practice is on one end of the political field, being similar to far right.
A couple of decades ago when censorship were prominently coming from the right wing,
Libertarians weren't really at fault.
Same here
it's funny how ppl think if u're not a right wing trump supporter u have to hold certain views. i'm a more liberal leaning young black guy with breads, but i'm pro 2a. when i say i'm 2a online and ppl can see what i look like, i get called a raist whyte guy.😅🙋🏿♂️
“We shouldn’t change our understanding of reality to celebrate your unique personhood “
What a statement!
I identify as being debt free. Sorry banks, please stop sending me mortgage payment requests.
Debt is measurable, gender is not, sex is. Can't fucking believe we STILL have to explain this to you guys, it's been years you still can't grasp the concept.
@@crypt0bank446 Holy shit you're dumb. Talk to a geneticist.
@@AiguilleVoodoo we don't separate men and women by gender, we separate them by sex. So why do we suddenly find gender is important and sex is not?
I am Transgender but your post was funny lol
Ha Ha Classic 😇
I'm not fat, I'm transgravity.
jason maes you do gods work Jason. +1
thats bigoted against trans-fat
I identify as the trans continental railroad.
The next t-shirt
This joke almost made me spit out my drink lmao
The whole bloody world's gone crazy.
It's just us, western Europe and Australia. We're fucked!
I can assure you this is not happening in Mexico anytime soon. We have tons of problems here, but thankfully that's not one of them.
Not Eastern Europe it isn't lol . Just America is becoming a joke
It's global cancer, spread by social media. It's the social cancer that looks and behaves like it's 'virtuous' but secretly super destructive. Just like cancer.
Explosionsss!!!
They always say he is Gad Saad.
They never ask why is Gad Saad.
society
Saad means happiness in Arabic
@@ahmedal-maliki4232
Haha that's great.
"If you're a man born in a womans body, that's biologically determined but if you're a woman born in a womans body, that's socially constructed?" - J. Peterson.
An ideology for the stupid and delusional.
I'm pretty retarded so can u explain this?
@@tshimomogudi51 I'll try, since english is my second language.
What I think Jordan Peterson is referring to is this narrative that when a person feels like they belong to the opposite sex - that's natural. But if you're a person who doesn't have gender dysphoria and feel like you belong to the body you're born with - that is a social construct.
@That girl I've seen/heard the context. And you don't need the context because the meaning doesn't change. He is pointing out the inconsistency and hypocrisy of these lunatics. For instance...
Boy: mummy I want to wear a dress because I'm a girl
Mother: yes of course, you were born in the wrong body and you should have a sex change immediately
Girl: mummy I want to wear a dress because I'm a girl.
Mother: don't be so fking stupid, gender is a social construct.
@@live_monkey2485 thank you! 🤘
When people look back at this time period, they're either going to be laughing hysterically or crying.
I seriously hope. I hope future humans look back on transsexuals and just laugh and laugh and laugh.
I will always choose to laugh at this. They can be offended, I will laugh even more. Just a bad memory of a moment in society .
It'll around a camp and cooking fire after a prolonged war and destruction of "civilization"
Probably going to be studying it with extreme concern.
Or be in shock and disbelief!
as a biologist/scientist for 20yrs, i am so happy to see these topics be discussed rationally. for decades we've been strong-armed into pretending that truth is not truth and reality is not reality.
It's insanity.
But biology is not binary, or what?
@XZDrake I dont think he is attacking the academic understanding of disphoria, but rather the way that some people pretend that what someone identifies as trumps observable reality. Biology shows that humans are a sexually dimorphic species, and gender disphoria is simply a condition that affects a small minority whose biological sex is at odds with their gender identity.
@XZDrake Dude, no _rational_ people are saying that. I think they are talking about the gender extremists who say gender is entirely a social construct, with zero to do with biology. These people may only be a vocal minority, but they certainly exist. I've had quite a few discussions with some of them right here on youtube.
Even though the science disagrees, this is a core tenet of some forms of feminism. Just Google "gender is a social construct" and you'll find a bunch of essays saying it (saying biological sex has nothing to do with gender identity or gender roles) and, lower in the list, a bunch of articles showing how science disagrees. This is a very real phenomenon.
@XZDrake
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.washingtonexaminer.com/gender-isnt-some-social-construct-study-says%3F_amp%3Dtrue&ved=2ahUKEwj58ZPO_JnkAhXGwFkKHR-nA-IQFjAfegQIBBAB&usg=AOvVaw04rcKIM95Ij1wkQflgvTnf&cf=1
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=qz.com/1190996/scientific-research-shows-gender-is-not-just-a-social-construct/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwj58ZPO_JnkAhXGwFkKHR-nA-IQFjAcegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw3YREiJWXrW-oaFHAi4B-LQ&cf=1
There are some clear biological imperatives in gender roles and tendencies, as _well_ as social influence determining some norms. To pretend that it is _all_ nurture or _all_ nature is the true lunacy. It's _both_ , because of thungs like hormones and differences in brain structure that are genetic and affect gender identity and behaviors as _well_ as environmental cues influencing behavior.
Being able to describe yourself in any way on a passport will be a huuuge win for the identity theft community
love this comment
I identify as a smokin’ hot 21 year old supermodel, but the world sees me as a frumpy middle-aged housewife. 😢
Feel for ya.
My 47 inch penis disagrees
@kobeftw2400 stop looking
Love your nick 🤭
@kobeftw2400 That’s peni-phobic, they can identify as whatever they want.
Spotify employees tried to delete this video, but when they couldn’t they gad saad.
Family guy seagull: Ha HA
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
The psychos in this world are taken too seriously.
Only by other psychos.
@@birthdayzrock1426
Unfortunately no, normal people are the ones catering to the psychos. When tolerance goes too far...
Cyberamp LGBT members aren’t psychos! We are people who were born a certain way like you actually have no clue about what we go through on a day to day basis! So stop gobbing off when you have no clue about it!
ClandestineOstrich stop labelling trans people like we are all individuals.....
Transgender people are not all the same in fact some have other problems like me I have anxiety and depression that came with gender dysphoria
You've articulated why the liberal left view anything you will say as a threat. If you start an argument with insults and a demeaning tone, than no matter what you say is going to be viewed as wrong. If you would present a well meaning statement, than the left wouldn't treat you like a Nazi. Treating others like a human being means you will be treated like one. Don't, and they won't treat you like one.
Yale: *is one of the most prestigious schools in the country known for housing intelligent minds*
Also Yale: *has tampon dispenser in men's bathroom*
Known for housing rich people
Side note: Tampons are great for what is often referred to as, "swamp ass." So, tampons in the men's restroom = valid
Plug yo' butts, boys!
Schools like that aren’t looking for the next great minds they’re looking for good workers with way above average intelligence in some areas but not critical thinking, they also want people who will sacrifice anything for something that isn’t tangible like a dream because these people are the best drones. It’s unfortunate that most intelligent people today are off drinking in a corner while college kids at the schools we used to dream of getting into are filled with college kids with the political knowledge of a Canadian/European 5 year old aka the political knowledge of the average fully grown american
@@austinlittle6154 only if the humidity is @ny point expected to be 150%; otherwise, please, do society @ large a favor by bathing, regularly.
No one is actually born in the wrong body. That only happens in horror & sci-fi movies.
I agree.
Try convincing my "female" dad though.
Ok but.... what if they really really really want attention and they're not talented or attractive in any way?
@@Network126 😂😂😂
No one is born in wrong body... that opens doors for all kinds of claims.... I was born in the wrong height Im supposed to be taller.... yeah but Im not so what now???
@@willsterry6395 In that case, it perfectly fine 🙂
That's a bleeding hemorrhoid not mestuation.
in the 60's when everybody wanted to feel special and unique and not part of mainstream society, they picked up a guitar, grew out their hair, tossed the suit and tie and started a band.
Makes me wonder what George Carlin would have thought of all that if he was still alive
..
@ClandestineOstrich What does the year he was born in have to do with whether he would've supported it or not ?
He would’ve died of a brain aneurysm bc of the bullshit
He famously said "Political correctness is Fascism pretending to be manners.". So from that we can get an answer.
ClandestineOstrich I was born after 1977 and I sure don’t...
@ClandestineOstrich he wasnt retarded so he would not have supported it
I'm trans and I agree with alot of these points. Not all trans people are thin-skinned, liberals. I have to keep telling myself alot of this confusion and disdain isn't directed towards me. I wish all this crazy social-war bullshit would stop. If only people could calm down and stop being such asshole, entitled and reactionary. Everyday America's bullshit is accepted in Australia and everyday the 'centre' and 'right' sides get slandered as extremist hate mongers.
Thanks Joe, Thanks for not being so crazy. Thanks for still being a nice guy and understanding transgender-ism as real and not something to be hated.
Do you feel a rift between yourself and other people in your life because of their extreme ideologies? Or just avoid the touchy subjects?
Do you still feel the same way since the crazy “kahuna varus” reaction by the Australian govt? That the craziness just comes from the USA?
But the left are extremist
I'm trans and you're full of it. I don't agree with you. Right wing will eat you alive.
If I claim I'm a woman, I'm stunning and brave.
If I claim I'm Napoleon, I'm just a crazy dude.
Sounds legit.
And if you identity as the other sex then you are stunning & brave but if you identify as another race you are an offensive nazi
@@jayjaydubful but no one is identifying with a different sex tho? The words gender and sex often get conflated to mean the same thing. And when you add the reactionary tendencies of many people they dont bother engage with the topic or theory. They just smuggly bathe in the mud of anti-intellectualism thinking theyre own biased intuition is the holy truthholder.
@@enjoiyou8494 why then are transwomen trying to get into women's sports & spaces?
@@jayjaydubful because of how gender works alongside biological characteristics these genders stem from it is reasonable to assume that a person identifying with a certain gender and taking steps to change certain gendered characteristics to fit the socially constructed idea of what that gender should typically look like and/or act like would want to take part in spaces and have experiences that coincide with their identity.
@@enjoiyou8494 so you are conflating it with sex then? Because that's the basis for sports & spaces - not gender
I have a eight year old son. We had one talk about this topic. I simply told him there are males and females. Everyone else is crazy so he should just smile and Nod when they talk. And slowly walk backwards.
That about sums it up.
so all trans people are insane and violent what a lovely message to teach children
When insanity is to be viewed as normality then up is down and everything goes.
We shouldn’t change our understanding of reality to celebrate your unique personality. Deep stuff
The Road to Hell is paved with good intentions
Haha right!
The road to hell is paved with the skulls of the poor saps who believed in liberalism.
William Juarez that’s deep William
@@jch8376 and those who blindly judge others
If good is determined by man that is..
we need ways to treat these people who "identify" with crazy identities rather than placate them to soothe their distorted reality. everyone should be treated with respect and dignity, but twisting general realities to soothe the feelings of a very few people is simply complicating life for everyone.
This entire mess started with time out’s.
We have, its called mental assylum.
@@susanbowman3865 I think the mess started when people started NOT doing time outs. If time outs were the problem, then what are you implying was the "correct" social behavior modifier before that... corporal punishment???
@@Sunset1705 when I grew up if our behavior warranted it we would get a good old fashioned spanking from time to time. Then afterwards we reflected on our choice to misbehave in such a manner. No one made us behave that way it was our choice and choices have consequences in the real world. BTW Moll’s I’m not condoning beating children. Thought I should mention that as you seem to have a vivid imagination ie “corporal punishment.”
‘Born in the wrong body’ is easily the most idiotic sentence I have ever heard.
I don't know, I identify as having 20 kilos more muscle
@@rexsceleratorum1632 How about you identify as someone who is actually funny? or someone who is actually not worthless..
@@gdskulll4875 I am a brown-skinned non-westerner, and you seem to be a racist and an ableist who wants to exclude thin people
And is a stark contradiction to the idea that sex and gender are different and you can be one sex but the opposite gender and they don't have to match. If they don't "match" (as in non-binary) then why do trans people want to get surgery so that their "body matches their brain"? Makes no sense.
More so that their brains are reliant on estrogen - whereas as a guy you produce testosterone. That's what's happening to my knowledge snd so far transitioning is the best remedy we know of. Undoubtedly different methods will come up eventually.
"We shouldn't change our understanding of reality to celebrate your unique personhood" -- once said much less eloquently by Dave Chappelle: "I support anyone's right to be who they want to be, but to what extent do I have to participate in your self-image?"
The basic tool for the manipulation of reality is the manipulation of words. If you can control the meaning of words, you can control the people who must use the words.
That is exactly why we have numbers in order to turn reality the right way up again!
Newspeak
I identify myself as an Alien, please get me out of this planet
"You should be able to free the world of bigotry without constantly attacking truth."
Such powerful words. Unfortunately, people in general (regardless of political affiliation) are too angry, too lazy and too polarized to find this golden path.
As far as I'm concerned schools should be out of the business of teaching social values altogether. The hubris behind informing YOUR children of what they should believe and how they should think about these things is astonishing. If I send my kid to a school I want them to learn maths, English, science, art, music, whatever, but not this crap. This is beyond what a school should be responsible for. Children are being prepped to accept and engage with absolute insanity - these postmodern ideas about gender and sex, when they don't even know the basic ideas behind these two concepts. They need to stay grounded in reality to tackle these subjects, and instead they're being primed to accept it without question AS "reality".
Anyone who thinks this is bullshit and who has the ability to do so should homeschool their children. It's the only way to cut this crap out of their intellectual diet. Prepare them to treat it for what it is - just another ideology in a sea of them, and a very poor one at that.
i think is called adoctrination, instead of teaching us how to do tax returns or basic ecomics to deal with the real world we get thought about stupid shit get brainwashed to fully accept things just because its "trendy"
Its all so confusing dude. I have 3 people in my life who are diagnosed with dysphoria, two have transitioned and the third is in the process of psych evaluation. Their pain is real, as is their dysphoria but the one thing they all have in common is that they're all male or female...It pains me to see their experiences trivialized by these so called activists who claim to be speaking in the best interest of a community that they dont actually belong to. Its sad dude. I'm a bi guy myself so I've always been pretty understanding of other LGBT people. I've always been pretty liberal when it comes to this stuff, but as of late I'm starting to wonder where we have to draw the line between struggle and delusion. Giving 5 year olds hormones and telling people that gender is always "fluid and endless" is a dangerous mindset. There is structural rigidity in gender for a reason - because gender is not personality. Its not infinitely fluid, its actually pretty cut and dry. You can be transgender, a misalignment of your chromosomes and brain structure/activity, but that doesn't mean we should assume that everyone who isn't perfectly masculine or feminine is somehow trans by definition. You can still just be a fem male without transitioning to female. You can still be a masculine "butch" female without being trans. Its crazy dude. I've really been worn lately after hearing some of these people speak. Its sad that making up fantasy genders is all that they have time and resources to do.
This is really powerful, but as another LGBTQ person don’t you think 2 cis straight people aren’t the best equipped the talk about this?
How are these straight men any better than the straight activists?
@@natem2695 being something does not make one the best at speaking about it, quite often it can be blinding and cause cognitive-dissonance, resulting in the subject having blind spots in regards to their own existence/causalities/psychology. Two straight men are perfectly capable of discussing this matter, so said anything about them being ‘the best’? You blinkers have been revealed
There was a time where these (perfectly valid) fem males and masculine females would have been gay/lesbian or just bi. Now they are being told they are the opposite sex and in the wrong body. The whole thing is ridiculous and feels like an attempt by the global elite to further domesticate and medicalise its worker bee population. Whatever the reason for the corporate/societal drive behind this rapid change, one thing is for sure, it’s not out of concern for us/our happiness
@@natem2695 How do you not see what a stupid question that is to ask. So if an economist published a paper on black employment, he would be unqualified on the subject by virtue of being white?
Your post is eloquent and touched me as someone truly concerned about the community. How do we right the ship?
For the actual dysphoria sufferers, we need to be helpful and tolerant. I also feel that introducing this to kids is a very dangerous thing. I mean young boys used to want to be cowboys and girls princesses. Teenagers have always been rebels and push the the boundaries… in my time it could be being a punk, goth, metal longhair, jocks etc.. when these kids reach 30,40, 50 they are not still goth, punk , etc. 99% are not.
The danger is once your gender is altered , it’s not the same as cutting your hair or buying new clothes … we need to protect our vulnerable kids and not placate a whim or a fad. Again I am full in support of those who are truly suffering with this issue. It must be terrible, just don’t encourage kids to alter their bodies in ways that maybe the adult version may not have wanted.
Imagine raising a child and teaching him/her that a dog is a cat.
Is that Count Dooku that Joe's interviewing?
Justin general kenoowbi
Yeah he really let himself go after anakin cut his hands and head
😂😂💀
No, it’s Sauroman.
Nah, Count Dooku is way less evil than this clown.
Batman: Do you bleed?
Superman:
Batman: you will... once a month.
Superman:
Batman:
Superman: Gender study at Martha University?
Batman: Gender study at Martha University.
I'm Male and the only time in my life that I had blood come out my pee hole is when I had a urinary tract infection. Not fun.
Lucky male lol no but seriously why in the world would some people want to transition from mtf and want everything that comes with the female gender like periods. Having pms and bleeding out once a month is fucking terrible.
@@forestreflection2066 To be fair.....an mtf will never get a period.
Your lucky! I had E-coli, my piss was blood 😬😬
Same
@@justinm2697 It's a win-win
He looks like Count Dooku if he just stayed with Anakin and Shmi and lived a peaceful, non-sith related life.
Good one
He explained exactly how I feel about all this stuff. Well done
It’s way more than physical/mental joe-its an existential disorder. For people who actually suffer from dysphoria, there is a perceivable incongruity between the person in actuality and their perception of self.
And as someone who deals with real trans people daily, it absolutely is a disorder, and a catastrophic one at that. This “movement” is only making it harder for people who really deal with this issue.
Note: And much to my dismay, transactivism has distanced dysphoria from the DSM-5, which is horrible.
That is the whole point Joe is making, it is a disorder - but the activism is saying it's not. Instead of accepting that this is a disorder and getting appropriate treatment, they are trying to change reality.
That's what happens when the vast majority of trans people have personality disorders. You can't just give people with BPD and narcissism everything they want. Their delusions aren't reality.
Pandora's box has been kicked open and the clowns keep coming out !!!!
People should just be taught to accept themselves no matter how they feel. They should not be pushed or provoked persuaded that they have a "problem" that can be "fixed" by changing physical appearance. People are being taken advantage of and it's ridiculous
Finally, I've met the Gad Father...
Burt Reynolds drove the shit out of me, I identify as Trans Am
Playa from the Himalayas 😂. Wellllll playedddddd
Rip
BWHAHAHHAHAHAH
@NINJAotogi nice one
Problem with trans' they identify as whaThey've yeTo be and not whaThey are.
The fact that certain people think they have to clarify their pronouns when you're obviously a girl or boy is beyond me
This is one of the more informative discussions I have heard on the subject.
Gaad was getting into a pretty important issue of "default values" when it comes to biology and how we treat those who fall outside those default values. Basically, the trap (vicious cycle) we fall into is attempting to assign a positive or negative existential value to those people whose biology is a statistical anomaly for our species. Their anomalous traits are like any other range of biological traits that are more representative of humans. Their functional value will be determined only by the specific situations in which a given person with those traits operates. It is folly to try and value the trait at a class or group level. In other words, assess only the individual.
@pootis bird if you don't understand the point the last thing you should do is vilify the author.
I had exactly this type of experience at the school where I teach. It was very disconcerting. I was in the corridor and three little girls in grade 2 (my students 6-7 years old) stopped to talk to me. Somehow the subject they were talking about to me (Believe me! I DID NOT bring this up!) was about becoming a parent, specifically, a father, and just as my principal was passing by, I said that when they grew up, they would not be fathers. They would be mothers. My principal stopped and said directly to me, "They can be fathers if they want. Yes, you know that. They can be fathers." I was literally stunned. It must have shown on my face. I almost asked if she were kidding, but then I remembered the Canadian law Bill C16 which Trudeau brought in in 2016 and it flashed through my mind that she was "right." I think the girls noticed this because one suddenly said, "I guess it's a choice." Except, it ISN'T "a choice!" Can you imagine confusing small children like that? To me, that is child abuse. You know, I have been reading about this sort of thing, but this event brought into "reality." In my opinion, an alternate reality where TRUTH has no place and ultimately is not a defense. I wonder what their parents would think if they had heard this conversation. S, I am asking all parents reading this, what do you think? I cannot and will not go along with this. I always reinforce their identities as boys and girls through my words - not as stereotypes, but as who they were born.
Being from Eastern Europe I'm a second hand spectator to all of this. The last few years in America in particular seem like an odd fever dream. I believe we've always been the same old degenerates but the 21st century lifestyle has made us that much more comfortable and lazy giving rise to these trends. Over here it's the exact opposite; gay pride parades are met with protests twice their size each year. I used to hope for a healthy equalibrium but now I'm too scared to risk becoming like the "woke" countries of the west. I fully believe you're taking the correct approach with these kids and I sincerely hope we're on the right side of history, for society's sake.
@@Joe-ut3sz We ARE on the right side of history! Genetics don't lie, no matter what you "feel" like on the inside. The whole basis of our identity starts at birth when people ask "Was it a boy or a girl?" Some people reading this comment might think that is stereotyping. Not at all. All children need to be encouraged in their interests no matter what sex they were born, but children are highly impressionable. They pretend lots of things - like being an animal or a superhero. If a boy says he is Superman and wants to jump off a roof and fly, as a parent, are you going to allow that? No, of course not. You'd correct him and tell him he cannot jump off a roof because while it's nice to pretend to be Superman, he is not ACTUALLY Superman, so he cannot jump off a roof. The same reasoning should apply if he comes home and says he is a girl and it should be explained that it is not possible genetically, no matter how he "feels" at that moment.
Notable psychological distress, can last the person's entire lifetime, some feel the need for chemical or surgical intervention, and those with or without intervention are at a disproportionately high risk of suicide.
That sounds like a psychological disease to me.
As a trans ftm, I agree and relate to this.
@@The_UmbrellaMan May i ask you for how long you have been trans? do you feel happy that way?
I identify my 2001 Toyota Corolla as a 2019 Acura NSX for social reasons, I identify it as a 2001 Toyota Corolla for insurance reasons
My brain just melted. I am just not smart enough to understand all these different opinions.
Take it slow. It's a common misconception to think that you should make up your mind as soon as the arguments are made
“You should be able to free the world from bigotry without constantly attacking truth.”
-Gad Saad-
"Gender disphoria used to be considered a mental disorder.....but isn't it?"
PERFECT!
Bless you both for being advocates of truth and decency.
"Thats called Tuesday for me, man!" Gad is hilarious
We should teach kids to love and accept who they are, not that they can just change who they are to who they think they are.
Then tell that to burn patients or people who've lost limbs in wars getting prosthetic.
You're a hypocrite. I'm glad trans people are winning.
Oh fuck. Never listen to Gad Saad after a day of core exercises. His humour is AWESOME and you uncontrollably begin to laugh and your core hurts 😂😂
I identify as Johnny Sinns
7:06 is totally true « you should be able to free the world of bigotry without constantly attacking truth » 👌🏻
How does 0.6%-7.0% (the estimated amount of people who are truly transgender) of the population have this much power? It's such a small population even at its highest estimate yet I feel like it has influenced so much of American society. I've had two very close friends growing up who are transgender and I have so much respect for them, do you know why? Because they just were what they were. They never attacked anyone, went through their days working hard with their heads down low, and didn't need anyone else's approval to be confident in who they were. When my friend first went female to male he gave me so many chances of accidentally misgendering him without freaking out because he understood that it was new for me also and habits take time to be broken. The most he would do is politely educate which would happen naturally out of people curiously asking questions because they weren't being forced perspectives (and weren't being forced to respect someone, respect is earned it can never be forced). There are so many situations going on today such as gang violence, absolute poverty, drug addiction, etc. that deserve the attention all these P.C topics have been getting.
That is a good question I have been wondering the same. Even the whole modern left movement doesn't have as many people as it seems to have, most people do not buy their ideology but they still have so much power, they are a small group but very loud. I think the reason why is because there are people behind making this happen, actually you can track down people donating insane amount of money to the movement, almost all mainstream media is on their side too so it gives the feeling like if most people have that mindset.
Armando this is 100% true. Jeff Bezos and his wife have both donated BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to these causes. So has George Soros and so many others. I love how they cry about how much big money the right is “funded by” when they are funded by even bigger amounts
8:23
So, it is listed as a condition, which is based off of data, but it's publicly shunned, which means the public must be right because they're offended, yes?
I believe that is called "Mob mentality"
The ironic thing is despite that Saad sounds like sad, it means happiness in Arabic.
i absolutely agree with what Gad has said. I see gender dysphoria,as a similar phenomena as being Mentally disabled/challenged.LET ME EXPLAIN, we treat mentally challenged individuals as "normal" as possible. we acknowledge that they are not "normal" however,we dont treat them like theyre not human beings. Respect goes for everyone doesnt matter if youre "normal" ,mentally challenged, LGBT,colored,etc. theres a difference between acknowledging Gender Dysphoria,and bashing it.
it may be Friday
but today
I identify as Wednesday
If prefer something like, today is Monday but I identify it as a Friday. Get my beer.
Ok Odin
I’m not happy with the general snarky tone of this conversation, but I’m so happy that they don’t care about my feelings. If there is ANYTHING that we need less of in America, it’s political correctness. It’s so good and so healthy to be having this non PC conversation out in the open.
Soon people are going to start robbing houses like “hey I self identify as the owner of this house. GTFO” Then it’ll be a hate crime if you don’t just give up everything. 🙄
They can go ahead and try that, but they'll soon find themselves identifying as a corpse.
Why isn’t this episode on Spotify?
Ahhhh now I see why this episode got deleted by Spotify
We are supposed to be these super advanced beings yet we are struggling to realize what we have already known for thousands of years. Sad.
I identify as "I got an A on my exam, Professor."
Gahhh just invite Contrapoints/Natalie Wynn onto the podcast already.
That's just one like in two months but, hey, it's a start. 😁
Talks of her getting into the Rubin Report, maybe Joe Rogan is a possibility.
"It sounds satirical and insane..."
*Only because it is.*
I'm a 6" tall woman and I might feel more or less feminine day-by-day. It's not so extreme that my gender identity changes, but I certainly could see how someone trans/transitioning might go through changes depending on context or how they look/feel each day.
This is my favorite Joe Rogan podcast segment.
"That's Tuesday for me man!"
I'm a grandfather and this, what I call, "cultural terrorism" worries me greatly. The kids are going to be so confused and disoriented by it that I think it's bound to cause psychological/emotional issues. On the other hand I see increasing opposition to these destructive forces - the pendulum is about to swing the other way.
Sorry, but the pendulum isn't really swinging back the other way on gays, trans people, blacks, or any other group. It may swing a big but it never swings enough to make a huge difference. Gay marriage is here to stay. Trans people are here to stay. Blacks will continue to marry and mingle with whites. And the wheels of progress roll on.
On the plus side, as an old man you won't be around much longer so your endless, pitiable anger will end with you.
I completely agree and have wondered this. If genitalia does not define gender, why does anyone change their genitalia??
Genitalia is one of many different things that *can be used* to define gender; but genitalia alone doesn't define gender. You don't go around looking at the genitalia of everyone you interact with to determine their gender, do you? You can almost always tell right away what gender someone is, without ever seeing what's in their pants. So to say genitalia defines gender is clearly disingenuous, wouldn't you agree?
As for why anyone would have their genitalia changed, it's for the same reason they transition in any of the other ways: to feel more like their gender identity. The key word there is *more*--it makes them feel *more* like their gender. It alone isn't the end-all be-all of gender identity.
@@xaldynnemo47 What else defines gender??
@@thesandravshow You already know the answer to that, otherwise you would never know or assume anyone's gender. What gender are your neighbors? Your coworkers? The person checking out your groceries? Do you stop and ask to look at any of their genitals before interacting with them? Of course not, like I said, you can already tell their gender without ever seeing their junk. So if you're not telling thier gender by their genitals, then what specific things about them that you are using to tell their gender?
@@xaldynnemo47 when a baby is born what do they look at to determine if you’ve had a boy or a girl?
@@thesandravshow You're referring to sex, not gender. The reason they use genitals to determine that is because newborns literally have no other visible differences. They don't have secondary sex characteristics, or voices, or clothing, or mannerisms, or anything else. If you covered up a newborn's genitals, you'd have no fucking clue what it's gender OR sex was. I don't see how that's even relevant, though, considering newborns and infants can't be trans. They don't even have genders in the first place at that stage. Not even 100 years ago, infants were all colloquially called girls and were dressed the same for that very reason.
I can't find it in spotify
When can you get Gaad Happi on the show?
I'm glad they are being nuanced about it and acknowledging gender dysphoria. I guess the real frustrating thing is that we can't all look at the situation the same way. Some people want to want to be nice, some people want to be mean, and some people want to strictly be empirical. It really bugs me that categorizing something as a disorder is unacceptable when it seems to really meet all the criteria. Meanwhile on the other end, people won't even acknowledge the dysphoria as real. It seems to mean a lot of different things to different people and until we can all agree to some objective standard, the issue will be relegated to echo chambers further dividing the dialogue.
Agree. Its like, yes, no , maybe.
Forever.
Spotify just deleted this episode..
So glad I graduated college in 2012. I would hate to be there now 🙄
Why is the complete episode private?
I actually don't mind putting tampon dispensers in men's rooms, if we agree to supply them in the first place. Trans men who appear and live as men often still retain their original female bodily functions, ergo have periods and need tampons. The alternative is they go into the women's room while presenting as male and cause a disturbance.
Let people make their own decisions. Some people transition and find peace. That’s great. They don’t need your help. Some would transition and not find that peace. Help them. This isn’t complicated. And it shouldn’t be taboo or political.
@Go To I disagree with that sentiment. I see no noteworthy difference between that and refusing to recognise a gay person as gay - or a straight person as straight. Individuals have the right to their own identity. You may have a choice in what you call people, but some choices are obviously made to punish another person for their choices, to demean them as an individual, or to force their identity in a way that you approve. You can chose to call someone "Idiot" rather than their name for instance. But I think the correct response to this is to "compel" you to stop. It shows a lack of respect for the individual's (and I mean all individuals) right to their own identity. The reason I side with that side of the debate rather than yours is that their decision to make their own identity is an action independent of anyone else. The other side says that their right to call another person whatever they want is the same. I don't think it is. It's a reaction to someone else's choice, and a method of forcing that person's identity back to what YOU want, rather than what that person wants for themselves. And I think we should have more acceptance for choices people make for themselves rather than for choices people make when acting on another person. I think my line of reasoning makes sense. I value individualism, while recognising that we don't live in a vacuum by ourselves, and this is the conclusion its lead me to. I respect your decision as well provided it doesn't lead to open hostility or cruelty.
"...women are the only ones to menstruate..."
careful Joe, look at what happened to JK Rowling!
Just like Joe she is rolling around in her millions of dollars. Neither can be cancelled at this point because they simply don't care.
I can't change the fact that I need estrogen to function though. I'm just trying my best to live.
You need a dab of testosterone too.
hope your better.
why is the full video not available?
Highly recommend Herbert Von Guenter’s ‘Yuganaddha’ - a Tantric view of life. Very very sharp on foetal developments and the bio-psychology of what is then occurring.
In truth I am unable to recreate it from memory - but it was riveting as a read and the man is a truly phenomenal scholar - a great penetrative mind.
The internet algorithms are reinforcing this in our youth
I'm so glad that there is a respectful and reasonable understanding from these two men towards gender dysphoria and transgender living
"We shouldn't change our understanding of reality to celebrate your unique personhood" Is so well spoken.
As a queer person, no this was not respectful in the least. “LGBTXYZ..” They are making fun of people like me, point blank. Then go on to preach their ideas about people they don’t know and experiences they have never had.
@@natem2695 I agree, I made this comment 2 years ago when I was trying to repress my identity or view it as a mental illness. I have since transitioned and find the sort of values held in this video as disrespectful to people they do not understand.
@@natem2695 Well, it's certainly funny when the movement is just adding on more and more letters just so it doesn't offend anyone. Maybe we will need to invent special letters, since the whole alphabet won't be enough. If you are offended by the mere fact that this is ridiculous and that it stops you from listening to the whole conversation, that seems like a you type of problem.
5:50 "gender dysphoria used to be considered as a mental disorder. (long pause). But isn't it?". Lol Joe, you can't say that 😅
Yes we can. Fk the pC bullshit.
Yes you can, because it is. You can say facts lol
I am gay and had a transgender friend who was supported on his journey to change his gender. So he did. He became a she. After a few years as a woman she begun to hate her body yet again she ask doctors to reverse it and go back to male again. The answer was no, After she struggle to come to terms with the reality that the reassignment surgery was not reversible she ended her/his life. As a gay male I begun supporting transgenders but after his death and reading through her goodbye letter he left i have to speak up. Please do no patronized people who tell you they are something they are not!!! Do not be afraid! I feel responsible for his death! I wish would of told him to love himself as he was born! To love himself! I wish I could of advise him to be comfortable in his own skin and accept himself fully. I wish I could of told him no amount of surgeries or hormones will fix how we feel about ourselves. We need to love and accept ourselves as we are and the bodies we were born in. And we need people around us who tells us the truth no to fear offending us by telling us we are wrong! I fail my friend by going along with his wishes. I fail his family. But above all I fail myself for lying to a friend and patronizing him. From now on when asked I will not lie or please anyone I will call you by the gender you were born into even if you disagree with me. One death is far too many!
Insane how this has SOMEHOW become more relevant 😤
I wish I had a name as cool as Gad Saad.
@4:44 As they say, The path to hell is paved with good intentions.
So much commentary on 15~ crazy people out of 300 million people.
Beth Exactly...who cares?
@@SapienSafari The people offering endless commentary on them and...you apparently.
"Hey Helena...Fuck Off!" Best shout-out ever.
This cat is fantastic. A chill fellow speaking with factually provable evidence and inherent reason.