I recommend the hx365 over the hx370 model. The power limits clip the performance of both the 880m and especially the 890m GPUs so you might as well buy the cheaper one which often performs just as well since many games are power limited (not CU limited).
I personally feel lost a lot, but a lot of value the channel with someone reading Josh scripts instead of being Josh the face of his own scripts. I don't like and I tend to don't watch or don't watch it full at least when that's the case
@robycore5841 I hope you saw my community post on this. I do appreciate your feedback and support. Just to be clear she isn't reading someone else's scripts. We are trying to move to a model where the primary reviewer does the primary presentation
Solid review as always. But I have to completely disagree with the fan noise comparison to the 16 GB4P or Edge. With the S16, the fans were running even while only watching a YT video, super annoying. With GB4P, the only time I heard the fans was when pushing it hard like when running Cinebench 2024 multi core... Also the screen brightness on the S16 is lacking for someone who prefers the dark mode. I was often reaching to increase the brightness thinking that it wasn't at max.... the Achilles heel on the GB4P or GB4E is that rediculous trackpad, otherwise it would provide a much more enjoyable user experience.
Nálam 0 RPM mellett 31-38 fokos a CPU. Irodai felhasználás esetén. HA viszont izzasztom beindul a hűtés. Számomra ez a természetes. Nagyon tetszik az s16, hogy álló ventillátor esetén irodai felhasználás melett hangtalan. 5 csillag az asusnak. (370hx)
HX 370 and 365 chips are honestly both pretty amazing(and possibly even underrated), despite their horrible names. Pretty good battery life, impressive ST and MT performance and top notch gaming. Can't wait to see how it compares against Intel's (also horribly named) Lunar Lake laptops!
Loser Lake are Chromebook CPUs, 4 cores, 8 threads, we outgrew those in 2013 but Intel keeps thinking somebody wants these dogs ... NOTE, eCore = 2nd thread, typically.
@@dgillies5420lunarlake is fine. As long as intel achieves the energy efficiency claims and prices it accordingly it’s more than fine. Lunarlake was really never strix point competitor no matter how Intel compared them.
@@SenselInc there is a natural give on my older mac pro instead of no give at all. Yes the top part does not give on a traditional real analog pad, but i use the whole pad to move or drag the cursor. and the bottom half for the real click or double click. with a natural logical pressure give release click rebound. And a real actual sound. Haptic is a digital fake, there is no give or rebound just vibration motors imitating it, so your finger is more stressed pressing against a hard surface.. ...having said that, im just talking about a good mac traditional pad, vs a good mac haptic pad, not bad ones...i do prefer the larger Size of the newer pads though. And Asus calculator and rotary dial as well. Both can be executed, in a bad or good way. Software optimization and quality parts plays a big role in the actual execution and ease of use. Neither is actually always better or worse than the other IMHO.
Battery life won't matter if the standby sucks. No one in their right mind sits on their laptop for 15-20 hours straight. I wanna know what happens when I close the lid and open the laptop the next day. If it drains the entire battery, I bet people will prefer ARM laptops more.
exactly that's what I commented in a previous video doing proper L1,l2,l3 sleep and.hibernate test would be appreciated by just josh team even a simple sleep test would be a good start
exactly , I bought a macbook primarily for the battery , I have used all kind of operating systems and i could care less as long as the apps i need work and i could multitask . the biggest problem, i had with my last laptop is that half the battery went over night. and that kills the battery even faster. I do think apple way over prices their products but just the feeling of opening the laptop 2 days later and it still has the same percentage is worth it for me now . if arm develops enough in windows ill probably sell my mac as i think i could get a more powerful machine for the same price. but for now I am willing to spend that much not for the speakers the track pad or anything just for the battery and power.
Ironically, I have a top of the line MBP from work and it drains pretty fast when I shut it. Not sure if it's a faulty unit or people just hype up Mac a lot. I really like it for video editing, but it doesn't satisfy all my needs and makes me want another laptop for personal use.
The S16 has also been announced globally (not in the USA) with Lunar Lake. Would you be able to compare them both when it gets released Sep 24th? Will have to be brought from outside the USA. It will provide the perfect comparison between Zen 5 vs Lunar Lake. And I need to decide between this two models for a purchase.
When you work in the financial or engineering sector...you'd think otherwise. But for home use or graphical content creation...sure. A competitor to a macbook, but not to a professional laptop.
@@mrpetit2 meh I'm a professional cad designer and prefer my laptops without numpad. If I'm doing long cad sessions I'm at my desk with an external keyboard anyway.
I bought this 2 days ago. I have slightly different preferences than most people and lowered everything to its most energy saving configuration. Definitely far from perfect but overall, I'm satisfied, especially for its price.
@@marcopn1174 I live in a very different part of the world than you and laptop prices where I am are marked up disproportionately to the US. So compared to other laptops with similar specs, yes, it's worth its price. Imo of course, others may disagree ㋡
🤔🤔🤔Curious if you guys could run the heat tests again with the latest firmware Asus released about a month ago? the overall spec is great and would be a shame if the firmware can't resolve the thermals con.
I have been waiting for this review! I've had the Huawei Matebook X Pro 2018 since it came out and it's gotten so slow. I've been following reviews for the Zenbook S 16 and it's currently my main contender for a new laptop. incredibly good performance and battery relative to the size and weight. I never thought I'd consider a 16 inch laptop, but this is thinner and weighs the same as my current one so why not get a bigger screen. The only issue I have now, which this video brought my attention to, is the colored pixels peeking through white. I use everything on light mode so this might be an issue.
I never really liked the haptic touchpad/trackpad. Not like hating, but like: meh I always prefer a silent touching for click instead of clicking. but one major win of this kind of touchpad is that there is no deadzone, and that's what I really care.
@@sneu420 yeah I'm using a refurb macbook m1, the touchpad is another world compared to any other laptop I ever had before. Are there any Windows laptops with such type of touchpad?
2:11 Speaking of the LG Gram, I've never understood how they could consistently inflate the pricing every year despite the flimsy nature of the laptop. I get that its weight is its selling point, but when other companies make lighter laptops that feel sturdier AND have better screens, it becomes a pointless product. (the screen is no longer an issue this year, but it took 2024 for their flagship to have it, despite them being a major manufacturer of OLED panels.)
OLED fanboys, do not get it. I prefer the great IPS panel on my 2023 Gram, best battery and high brightness on non glossy panel. And flimsy is only for the reviewers, the owners swear by it and travel everywhere with it.
@@theinktician its actually quite durable considering t he materials use and still among the lightest in its size categories and its pushed the others to innovate. Now it has genuine comoetition. Its main complaints are that it feels cheap bland looks bad thermals for all the room it has inside and lately no diy ram.upgrafes but now Thats everyone. And poor gpu integrated performance . Lack of touch and oled options. Could have better speakers. I think many of those traits will be addressed aside from cheap feel if they wanted to retain among the lightest. Although a premium metalceramic build would be great. Also anyine that allows ram.uografes would instantly sell well and its van be done sodered plus ram in the motherboard is possible. The system would first use sikdered armband then instead if going ti slow ssds for scratch it would go ti fast ram chips like always first just ask fast as them soldered ram but with more latency by a tiny amount because of distance. .thus could allow base memory up to 64gb plus two slots of 48gb each. It would test almost as fast as them in chip memory. .si dint believe the hype that this can not be done. .new thin cass memory chips are mass just for this. This would be a thin and light game changer
@@skipper63400 I'm no OLED fanboy - in my experience the Grams that had matte displays were more washed than other panels and i hated it. If I could choose, I'd have an antiglare textured OLED, so I could get that feel while keeping the color accuracy when I'm drawing. But as of now the only display like that is on the new Wacom tablet which I am not willing to buy.
@@Tigerex966 I actually completely forgot about the heat - that was one of the biggest issues. I never minde it being "underpowered" since that wasnt its use case. But if you're going the route of comfort, you should at least check those boxes. "Its light, but you cant hold it!" is a strange outcome
Although it doesn't appear to support dynamic refresh rate within the Windows display settings, the MyASUS app shows that it has "Adaptive" refresh rate, which in my case was enabled by default.
I feel like it is a miss to not see the Vivobook S 14 or S 16 Ryzen AI chips included in this benchmark, especially since the Qualcomm S 15 is in here.
To see the performance of the chips in different "quality" of builds but that play in the same price point. Is it worth it to pay more for the Zenbook or get the cheaper Vivobook with better performance. And from a quality perspective, would it be a significant downgrade. Asus has so many variants in these two lines, it would be great to see a roundup. Especially since they are pretty much the only way to get the new AMD chips currently.
Would love to see a video on "the best fanless windows laptops", or something like it. I have my eyes on the surface laptop 7 because it has no ventilation on the bottom panel. I do recognize that is does have a fan, but as far as i have heard, it usally is not on or audable. Any other laptops that would work as fanless or fanless ish (ventilation not on bottom panel, for bed and couch dust scenarios)
Great video. I'm considering this Asus for $1149 and the HP Omnibook Ultra flip with the Intel Ultra 7 processor 16GB for $1250. Which do you recommend?
As always this is a high-quality review, but I would like to ask 2 questions: does this laptop have better speakers then the Zephyrus g14/16 and who needs a white backlight in a bright environment?
I'm amaized that this laptop doesn't have a numpad. To me, this places this laptop immediately in the private/home market or graphics/content creation market, but absolutely not in the professional market. Anything financial or management related, or for that matter engineering/technical related, a numpad is pretty much a must. I also find it strange that there is no mention of that in this video. Everything is highlighted, exept that, and there are even comparisons made to a samsung laptop and a LG gram laptop, where the biggest difference is....they have a numpad! No mention at all! So this is a laptop that aims at the macbook market. Those are also rarely seen in the professional financial or engineering market.
I would've liked to see the speaker comparison against the MBA15 rather than against the MBP16, as I think it's more comparable and still very good speakers. And in case the ZenBook S16 had better speakers, it could be put against the MBP14 speakers, which are probably second after the MBP16, although I've heard good things of the Asus G16 too.
Good review. Really interested in the new lunar lake Samsung book5 360. I want something that can do everything including handwriting and have a num pad. It looks perfect for my use case. Would love a review when it is available
Me too, heard the wasn’t that the Hx 370 chip wasn’t too game changing. Lunar Lake seem more promising, and the Scandinavian white isn’t available in America with the higher configuration.
Lunar Lake is for thin and light laptops, basically the 13-14" ones. When you go to 16", even if you don't have discrete GPU, you can then have more performance (without overheating and all that jazz). Remember that Lunar Lake has only 4+4 cores and 8 (eight) threads. A Sandy Bridge i7 from 2012 (12 years ago) also had 8 threads. Now don't get me wrong, Lunar Lake, if we were to beleieve Intel's claims, will perform very well. But it's still very well for an 8 core chip. Ryzen CRINGE 9 HX 370 does have 12 cores at the end of the day, so it will be clearly better on heavy duty apps/scenarios.
Will this laptop be able to handle architecture and design 3d modelling and 3d rendering software such as AutoCAD, 3D Studio Max, Lumion? Has anyone tried and how were the results?
Hi! I'm looking for a laptop for studying computer science. I prefer a lightweight, portable model without a dedicated GPU, as I'll primarily be using it at university. And also I would appreciate a good keyboard and high-quality screen. I've identified four laptops that stand out within my budget. Assuming they are all on sale in my country and prices are all the same ,which one is the best choice? 1- Lenovo Yoga 7 2-in-1 (14' ) with Ryzen 8840HS, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 60 Hz WUXGA OLED Display 2- Huawei Matebook 14 with Ultra 7 155H, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 120 Hz 2.8K OLED Display 3- ASUS Zenbook 14 with Ultra 7 155H, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 60 Hz WUXGA OLED Display 4- ASUS Vivobook S15 with Ryzen 8845HS, 32 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, 120 Hz 2.8K OLED Display
My S16 hx365 definitely trounces ARM!! And I was honestly rooting for ARM but once again Microsoft did a crappy job and only half-finished the x86 emulation according to my Qualcomm friends ...
So Since this video Asus has decreased the maximum wattage from 33w to 28w because of thermal issues. I have ran both geekbench and Cinebench with the new 28w cpu and there is no difference, which is great and surprising. Perhaps there have been other updates since this video which has made the laptop more performant which is why there is no difference in my scores.
My friend has this laptop and he says it gets annoyingly warm which is a shame, however Asus recently released the "Intel Lunar Lake Chip" version of this the same laptop. Does anyone know how does it compare to the AMD Ryzen HX 370? Probably it will have a better battery life but how about the performance and the heating problem? Please let me know if you have any info about it, so far i couldn't find a comparison (comparision of this the same laptop but with different chips) video or info online.
While this is a great review - the only important part is 4:02 where she says she has to take breaks from using it due to how hot it gets. This renders the device useless. A laptop this thin is specifically built for portability and using it on the go - you shouldn't need a laptop cooler or riser to be able to comfortably use it. Which means you can only use it comfortable at home with an external keyboard at which point you might as well get a fully stacked lenovo with a mid to full wattage 4070 for the same or less money.
This laptop is absolutely great (weight, dimensions, screen, performance, noise, battery life). The only thing I don't like, in particular when comparing to a MB Air, is that it tends to get hot. It's not a problem when using it on a desk. But, when used on the laps, it's not very comfortable.
Using my Asus S16 hx365 24/7 on the road this week. ASTONISHING COMPUTER. Best screen ever. Best laptop speakers ever. Best battery life ever. The last time i was this happy with a computer was when I purchased a Macintosh II in 1987 with AppleColor monitor and 80MB disk ... Only downside is that CHARGING warms the laptop more than computing on battery! The 28/34w power limit gimps the hx370/890m so i got the lower spec hx365/880m CPU which matches the 890m in several games that are power linited ..
Thanks for the detailed review. I just bought this one for school work and programming. However, considering trying out the yoga slim 7i aura edition. Do you think it is a downgrade?
keyboard lighting on a white (or light coloured) keyboard is only designed to work in dark environments. there is no point using the keyboard lighting in bright environments.
I own one of these as well as a Yoga Slim 7x. I'm probably going to return the S 16. I actually use my laptop on my lap and the Zenbook runs hot even in "whisper mode." The performance in that mode is decent, but not as good as the 7x. If you put it on any higher mode, it's too hot to use on your lap. The display is nowhere near as good as the 7x. It's not as sharp because the resolution is spread over a larger area, and it's significantly less bright which is a problem in well-lit rooms. It also is slightly grainy which is noticeable with white backgrounds. That said, I actually prefer the keyboard on the S16. The Slim 7x keyboard is really springy which causes me to make a lot of typing mistakes. However, it's possible that I just prefer low travel laptop keyboards. Lastly, I wish Asus would have made this laptop with a little less sharpness in the edges. If you rest your wrists when u type, you'll definitely feel the edge. Absent compatibility issues, which aren't super common, or gaming, I think Windows on ARM is the future for Windows thin and lights. At least I hope it is.
@@JustJoshTech could you please review ThinkPad's T16/E16 new models for programming? Maybe include some source code compilation tests would be greater! Still can't choose between them.
@JustJoshTech It also might take a bit to get the kernel updated for Zen 5. Still, given how poor most Linux first laptops are that use Clevo or Tongfang chassis, I'd like to see that more often than you are doing currently.
When your 16 inch laptop is thinner than a 15,6 Macbook Air. You're clearly doing it wrong. Any laptop thinner than Macbook pro means they're doing it wrong. THat's it.
I'm curious why you would take the Air over this. Is it the abundant ports or the fabulous 60 htz lower resoution display lcd with touch. Maybe it's the amazing speakers. Or the lower amount of ram available. Perhaps it's the higher multicore scores or abundant gaming capabilities. Could it be the larger screen at a lighter weight. Must be its 5 percent better single core on geekbench. Or maybe its higher price for equivalent specs makes you feel superior to those around you. Definitely buy the Air. Remember it's Apple. Remember the Air has a warmer keyboard based on your test.
About 90% of Mac users buy them for macOS as they dislike Windows. So, although the ASUS is better in most regards, as Windows laptops always have been, at least in pricing, that 90% is not going to change for what you list.
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I recommend the hx365 over the hx370 model. The power limits clip the performance of both the 880m and especially the 890m GPUs so you might as well buy the cheaper one which often performs just as well since many games are power limited (not CU limited).
I personally feel lost a lot, but a lot of value the channel with someone reading Josh scripts instead of being Josh the face of his own scripts. I don't like and I tend to don't watch or don't watch it full at least when that's the case
@robycore5841 I hope you saw my community post on this. I do appreciate your feedback and support. Just to be clear she isn't reading someone else's scripts. We are trying to move to a model where the primary reviewer does the primary presentation
Petition for them to rename the channel to “not just Josh”
True😅, team is cool though. Maybe Josh's Team?
@@StashiaMass ehhhh I'm not feeling "Team".
@@StashiaMass Josh n Team.
Josh Tech Team
Just Josh & co.
Thank you for the review, NotJosh
Josh did something. I cannot put my finger on ut. Maybe changed his hair...
Yeah, congratulations! The hair transplant looks excellent!
😂😂
Solid review as always. But I have to completely disagree with the fan noise comparison to the 16 GB4P or Edge. With the S16, the fans were running even while only watching a YT video, super annoying. With GB4P, the only time I heard the fans was when pushing it hard like when running Cinebench 2024 multi core... Also the screen brightness on the S16 is lacking for someone who prefers the dark mode. I was often reaching to increase the brightness thinking that it wasn't at max.... the Achilles heel on the GB4P or GB4E is that rediculous trackpad, otherwise it would provide a much more enjoyable user experience.
Good comment
I don't hear the fans on my S 16, but I DID listen to a lot of Punk music in my youth.... 🙂
Nálam 0 RPM mellett 31-38 fokos a CPU. Irodai felhasználás esetén. HA viszont izzasztom beindul a hűtés. Számomra ez a természetes. Nagyon tetszik az s16, hogy álló ventillátor esetén irodai felhasználás melett hangtalan. 5 csillag az asusnak. (370hx)
HX 370 and 365 chips are honestly both pretty amazing(and possibly even underrated), despite their horrible names. Pretty good battery life, impressive ST and MT performance and top notch gaming. Can't wait to see how it compares against Intel's (also horribly named) Lunar Lake laptops!
Loser Lake are Chromebook CPUs, 4 cores, 8 threads, we outgrew those in 2013 but Intel keeps thinking somebody wants these dogs ... NOTE, eCore = 2nd thread, typically.
@@dgillies5420lunarlake is fine. As long as intel achieves the energy efficiency claims and prices it accordingly it’s more than fine.
Lunarlake was really never strix point competitor no matter how Intel compared them.
Annnddd Lunar Lake isnt doing the best, haha
I would have paid an extra 100$ for a haptic touch pad. After using one, I can't go back to mechanical one.
Great review - Thanks!
100 for a good TouchPad, 100 for a good cam, 100 for a bright screen with proper coating. All things I would expect at the current price point
I couldn't agree more 😁
I actually prefer the old ones in many cases.
Much more natural feeling and easier on the fingers if large enough
@@Tigerex966 Thanks for sharing. In what ways do you find mechanical touchpads to be easier on the fingers? Genuinely interested
@@SenselInc there is a natural give on my older mac pro instead of no give at all.
Yes the top part does not give on a traditional real analog pad, but i use the whole pad to move or drag the cursor. and the bottom half for the real click or double click. with a natural logical pressure give release click rebound.
And a real actual sound.
Haptic is a digital fake, there is no give or rebound just vibration motors imitating it, so your finger is more stressed pressing against a hard surface..
...having said that, im just talking about a good mac traditional pad, vs a good mac haptic pad, not bad ones...i do prefer the larger Size of the newer pads though.
And Asus calculator and rotary dial as well.
Both can be executed, in a bad or good way.
Software optimization and quality parts plays a big role in the actual execution and ease of use.
Neither is actually always better or worse than the other IMHO.
Battery life won't matter if the standby sucks. No one in their right mind sits on their laptop for 15-20 hours straight. I wanna know what happens when I close the lid and open the laptop the next day. If it drains the entire battery, I bet people will prefer ARM laptops more.
exactly
that's what I commented in a previous video
doing proper L1,l2,l3 sleep and.hibernate test would be appreciated by just josh team
even a simple sleep test would be a good start
I have this laptop. Battery will drain a maximum of 5% per day. The standby is pretty good.
exactly , I bought a macbook primarily for the battery , I have used all kind of operating systems and i could care less as long as the apps i need work and i could multitask . the biggest problem, i had with my last laptop is that half the battery went over night. and that kills the battery even faster. I do think apple way over prices their products but just the feeling of opening the laptop 2 days later and it still has the same percentage is worth it for me now . if arm develops enough in windows ill probably sell my mac as i think i could get a more powerful machine for the same price. but for now I am willing to spend that much not for the speakers the track pad or anything just for the battery and power.
Ironically, I have a top of the line MBP from work and it drains pretty fast when I shut it. Not sure if it's a faulty unit or people just hype up Mac a lot. I really like it for video editing, but it doesn't satisfy all my needs and makes me want another laptop for personal use.
The S16 has also been announced globally (not in the USA) with Lunar Lake.
Would you be able to compare them both when it gets released Sep 24th? Will have to be brought from outside the USA.
It will provide the perfect comparison between Zen 5 vs Lunar Lake. And I need to decide between this two models for a purchase.
Nice video josh
glad were getting more large laptops without numpads i like being able to actually use the keyboard comfortably
When you work in the financial or engineering sector...you'd think otherwise. But for home use or graphical content creation...sure. A competitor to a macbook, but not to a professional laptop.
Numpads are amazing for a remote work machine. We def need them when there is space
@@mrpetit2 meh I'm a professional cad designer and prefer my laptops without numpad. If I'm doing long cad sessions I'm at my desk with an external keyboard anyway.
Seriously considering this model due to this review! Thank you very much!🎉
I bought this 2 days ago. I have slightly different preferences than most people and lowered everything to its most energy saving configuration. Definitely far from perfect but overall, I'm satisfied, especially for its price.
For it's price, 1500+ without an d.gpu?
@@marcopn1174 I live in a very different part of the world than you and laptop prices where I am are marked up disproportionately to the US. So compared to other laptops with similar specs, yes, it's worth its price. Imo of course, others may disagree ㋡
@@marcopn1174 Its fine if you don't play games. If I need to train AIs, I can rent time on NVidia rigs in the cloud...
Is it real hdmi 2.1 or a fake one?
@joannenicole how is the battery life? I'm looking for a Windows laptop with the battery life of an Apple Macbook pro
🤔🤔🤔Curious if you guys could run the heat tests again with the latest firmware Asus released about a month ago? the overall spec is great and would be a shame if the firmware can't resolve the thermals con.
I have been waiting for this review! I've had the Huawei Matebook X Pro 2018 since it came out and it's gotten so slow. I've been following reviews for the Zenbook S 16 and it's currently my main contender for a new laptop. incredibly good performance and battery relative to the size and weight. I never thought I'd consider a 16 inch laptop, but this is thinner and weighs the same as my current one so why not get a bigger screen.
The only issue I have now, which this video brought my attention to, is the colored pixels peeking through white. I use everything on light mode so this might be an issue.
I never really liked the haptic touchpad/trackpad.
Not like hating, but like: meh
I always prefer a silent touching for click instead of clicking.
but one major win of this kind of touchpad is that there is no deadzone, and that's what I really care.
it is this that the macbooks have now, right?
@@alex75hgft yeah
@@sneu420 yeah I'm using a refurb macbook m1, the touchpad is another world compared to any other laptop I ever had before. Are there any Windows laptops with such type of touchpad?
@@alex75hgft I believe there is, for example ThinkPad Z13 and Z16 Gen 2
they're all using the touchpad from sensel
@@alex75hgftSurface laptop 7 gas one
2:11 Speaking of the LG Gram, I've never understood how they could consistently inflate the pricing every year despite the flimsy nature of the laptop. I get that its weight is its selling point, but when other companies make lighter laptops that feel sturdier AND have better screens, it becomes a pointless product. (the screen is no longer an issue this year, but it took 2024 for their flagship to have it, despite them being a major manufacturer of OLED panels.)
I know the Gram Style 16 was a thing last year, but that thing was borderline "Limited Edition". That is not flagship.
OLED fanboys, do not get it. I prefer the great IPS panel on my 2023 Gram, best battery and high brightness on non glossy panel. And flimsy is only for the reviewers, the owners swear by it and travel everywhere with it.
@@theinktician its actually quite durable considering t he materials use and still among the lightest in its size categories and its pushed the others to innovate.
Now it has genuine comoetition.
Its main complaints are that it feels cheap bland looks bad thermals for all the room it has inside and lately no diy ram.upgrafes but now Thats everyone.
And poor gpu integrated performance .
Lack of touch and oled options.
Could have better speakers.
I think many of those traits will be addressed aside from cheap feel if they wanted to retain among the lightest.
Although a premium metalceramic build would be great.
Also anyine that allows ram.uografes would instantly sell well and its van be done sodered plus ram in the motherboard is possible.
The system would first use sikdered armband then instead if going ti slow ssds for scratch it would go ti fast ram chips like always first just ask fast as them soldered ram but with more latency by a tiny amount because of distance.
.thus could allow base memory up to 64gb plus two slots of 48gb each.
It would test almost as fast as them in chip memory.
.si dint believe the hype that this can not be done.
.new thin cass memory chips are mass just for this.
This would be a thin and light game changer
@@skipper63400 I'm no OLED fanboy - in my experience the Grams that had matte displays were more washed than other panels and i hated it. If I could choose, I'd have an antiglare textured OLED, so I could get that feel while keeping the color accuracy when I'm drawing. But as of now the only display like that is on the new Wacom tablet which I am not willing to buy.
@@Tigerex966 I actually completely forgot about the heat - that was one of the biggest issues. I never minde it being "underpowered" since that wasnt its use case. But if you're going the route of comfort, you should at least check those boxes. "Its light, but you cant hold it!" is a strange outcome
Although it doesn't appear to support dynamic refresh rate within the Windows display settings, the MyASUS app shows that it has "Adaptive" refresh rate, which in my case was enabled by default.
How is it that the battery life in your testing between zen 5 vivobook and zen 5 zenbook so huge if they use the same processor and display?
but how does this compare to the new zenbook with Lunar Lake CPU?
Reviews aren't out till September 24th. Any content shown thus far is based on Intel released data
@JustJoshTech this is why I love this channel, only relying on hard data
Lunar lake isn't even here yet.
@israellewis5484 it is tho many youtubers did initial impression of it
@@magedmohammed8674 Sorry, I should have said "full testing" isn't available yet
Colourful pixels peeking through a white page is a no go from the outset im afraid.
I feel like it is a miss to not see the Vivobook S 14 or S 16 Ryzen AI chips included in this benchmark, especially since the Qualcomm S 15 is in here.
Interesting, just to see a comparison?
To see the performance of the chips in different "quality" of builds but that play in the same price point. Is it worth it to pay more for the Zenbook or get the cheaper Vivobook with better performance. And from a quality perspective, would it be a significant downgrade.
Asus has so many variants in these two lines, it would be great to see a roundup. Especially since they are pretty much the only way to get the new AMD chips currently.
Please, you guys should be talking about screen wobble. It's very important
Please correct the description: "S 16", not "S 15"
Good spotting will do
2 questions: how is the quality of the camera and microphone and how bad is the fan noise. I do a lot of zoom meetings
Fan noise should not be a problem if you arent running any cpu smasher software
@@mrbobgamingmemes9558 thank you 👍
Would love to see a video on "the best fanless windows laptops", or something like it.
I have my eyes on the surface laptop 7 because it has no ventilation on the bottom panel. I do recognize that is does have a fan, but as far as i have heard, it usally is not on or audable.
Any other laptops that would work as fanless or fanless ish (ventilation not on bottom panel, for bed and couch dust scenarios)
Great video. She's exceptional too.
Great video. I'm considering this Asus for $1149 and the HP Omnibook Ultra flip with the Intel Ultra 7 processor 16GB for $1250. Which do you recommend?
As always this is a high-quality review, but I would like to ask 2 questions: does this laptop have better speakers then the Zephyrus g14/16 and who needs a white backlight in a bright environment?
Thanks for a splendid review (as usual). Would this still be the best choice for someone who really doesn't need a touch screen?
The Samsung galaxy 4 edge is just amazing!!! Can't recommend it enough. Everything works and it's a digital nomads dream
Could we get out of the box Linux compatibility? 😃
Nice of yall to include a galaxy book 4 pro to compare 16 inch windows laptops. And yes the ryzen ai 9 is really amazing
How good is the touch screen and stylus support?
What a great voice, IMHO 👍. It's the USP of Just Josh team, I guess.
I'm amaized that this laptop doesn't have a numpad. To me, this places this laptop immediately in the private/home market or graphics/content creation market, but absolutely not in the professional market. Anything financial or management related, or for that matter engineering/technical related, a numpad is pretty much a must. I also find it strange that there is no mention of that in this video. Everything is highlighted, exept that, and there are even comparisons made to a samsung laptop and a LG gram laptop, where the biggest difference is....they have a numpad! No mention at all!
So this is a laptop that aims at the macbook market. Those are also rarely seen in the professional financial or engineering market.
Thank you for this review. I think I will wait to see how the new Intel Lunar Lake compares. Are you going to review the new Lunar Lake PCs?
Excellent!
which one u suggest AMD or intel ?
What S 16 is this? Mine has 3200 x 2000 pixels screen so I guess is older or something
I would've liked to see the speaker comparison against the MBA15 rather than against the MBP16, as I think it's more comparable and still very good speakers. And in case the ZenBook S16 had better speakers, it could be put against the MBP14 speakers, which are probably second after the MBP16, although I've heard good things of the Asus G16 too.
I don't know why but I really want this laptop I hope the lunar lake fixes that heat.
Good review. Really interested in the new lunar lake Samsung book5 360. I want something that can do everything including handwriting and have a num pad. It looks perfect for my use case. Would love a review when it is available
Would suggest checking out the Redmibook Pro 16 with 155H, the battery life is bunkers according to Notebook check
Great review as always! Has anyone tested Linux on that laptop yet? Any issues on Linux?
I'll wait for lunar lake
Me too, heard the wasn’t that the Hx 370 chip wasn’t too game changing. Lunar Lake seem more promising, and the Scandinavian white isn’t available in America with the higher configuration.
Get an arm base laptop. That's where everything's going
@@nickg31224 that’s definitely not true rn, maybe in 10 years lol
@@Pomegrante460 arms the future, I'm sure they're going to speed up the process
Lunar Lake is for thin and light laptops, basically the 13-14" ones. When you go to 16", even if you don't have discrete GPU, you can then have more performance (without overheating and all that jazz). Remember that Lunar Lake has only 4+4 cores and 8 (eight) threads. A Sandy Bridge i7 from 2012 (12 years ago) also had 8 threads.
Now don't get me wrong, Lunar Lake, if we were to beleieve Intel's claims, will perform very well. But it's still very well for an 8 core chip. Ryzen CRINGE 9 HX 370 does have 12 cores at the end of the day, so it will be clearly better on heavy duty apps/scenarios.
When is the Lunar Lake embargo over? That will be the important comparison.
Had the hx370 version and it was excellent, APART from the trackpad which after playing with haptic feedback versions simply isn’t good.
Will this laptop be able to handle architecture and design 3d modelling and 3d rendering software such as AutoCAD, 3D Studio Max, Lumion? Has anyone tried and how were the results?
Hi! I'm looking for a laptop for studying computer science. I prefer a lightweight, portable model without a dedicated GPU, as I'll primarily be using it at university. And also I would appreciate a good keyboard and high-quality screen.
I've identified four laptops that stand out within my budget. Assuming they are all on sale in my country and prices are all the same ,which one is the best choice?
1- Lenovo Yoga 7 2-in-1 (14' ) with Ryzen 8840HS, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 60 Hz WUXGA OLED Display
2- Huawei Matebook 14 with Ultra 7 155H, 16 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 120 Hz 2.8K OLED Display
3- ASUS Zenbook 14 with Ultra 7 155H, 32 GB RAM, 1 TB SSD, 60 Hz WUXGA OLED Display
4- ASUS Vivobook S15 with Ryzen 8845HS, 32 GB RAM, 512 GB SSD, 120 Hz 2.8K OLED Display
Sad to see ARM architecture disappear so soon....
They just gotta get better. It was stupid for qualcomm to reuse a phone gpu
@@christianr.5868yeah arm on windows need insane amount of time to be compelling on laptop
My S16 hx365 definitely trounces ARM!! And I was honestly rooting for ARM but once again Microsoft did a crappy job and only half-finished the x86 emulation according to my Qualcomm friends ...
1:37 at first I heard "War document"and I was confused
So Since this video Asus has decreased the maximum wattage from 33w to 28w because of thermal issues. I have ran both geekbench and Cinebench with the new 28w cpu and there is no difference, which is great and surprising. Perhaps there have been other updates since this video which has made the laptop more performant which is why there is no difference in my scores.
do you think it's good for programming/coding?
I don't love it for that. It gets warm
@ thanks for the honest feedback
@@JustJoshTech probably I’ll get MacBook Pro then
@@JustJoshTech I see
My friend has this laptop and he says it gets annoyingly warm which is a shame, however Asus recently released the "Intel Lunar Lake Chip" version of this the same laptop. Does anyone know how does it compare to the AMD Ryzen HX 370? Probably it will have a better battery life but how about the performance and the heating problem? Please let me know if you have any info about it, so far i couldn't find a comparison (comparision of this the same laptop but with different chips) video or info online.
Without CPU and GPU compatibility issues on Galaxy Book 4 edge, it will be a great competitor.
Can you please review Asus Vivobook s16?
Please make a comparison video of Snapdragon, Intel & AMD zenbook S 16.
And also the yoga pro 7, yoga 7i and yoga 7x.
Josh is being held captive
Where did josh go???
Probably visiting his mum.
Kidnapped
@@fungt89no, visiting reversebanana’s mom
Tied in the storageroom
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Does anyone have any chassis creaking on their s16 unit ? Especially on the bottom near the heat vent grills ? Or while opening or closing the lid ?
I wish they'd release IPS variants of these laptops. Not interested in OLED and they are pushing out all good IPS models.
I have seen that screen with a word document and does not look great, it seems that we are going backwards in offerings
While this is a great review - the only important part is 4:02 where she says she has to take breaks from using it due to how hot it gets. This renders the device useless. A laptop this thin is specifically built for portability and using it on the go - you shouldn't need a laptop cooler or riser to be able to comfortably use it. Which means you can only use it comfortable at home with an external keyboard at which point you might as well get a fully stacked lenovo with a mid to full wattage 4070 for the same or less money.
This laptop is absolutely great (weight, dimensions, screen, performance, noise, battery life). The only thing I don't like, in particular when comparing to a MB Air, is that it tends to get hot. It's not a problem when using it on a desk. But, when used on the laps, it's not very comfortable.
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Using my Asus S16 hx365 24/7 on the road this week. ASTONISHING COMPUTER. Best screen ever. Best laptop speakers ever. Best battery life ever. The last time i was this happy with a computer was when I purchased a Macintosh II in 1987 with AppleColor monitor and 80MB disk ... Only downside is that CHARGING warms the laptop more than computing on battery! The 28/34w power limit gimps the hx370/890m so i got the lower spec hx365/880m CPU which matches the 890m in several games that are power linited ..
Thanks for the detailed review. I just bought this one for school work and programming. However, considering trying out the yoga slim 7i aura edition. Do you think it is a downgrade?
keyboard lighting on a white (or light coloured) keyboard is only designed to work in dark environments. there is no point using the keyboard lighting in bright environments.
This or 15” MacBook Air?
If you can afford the Air with similar memory, I'd get the Air
@@JustJoshTech And if you can deal with macOS. I don't like it, so that's out.
Where's Josh?
please do review the intel version alsoooo
Where is Josh. Broken heart 💔
Did I miss something or is it not Just Josh anymore?
There is actually 5 of us full time now! We are trying to bring everyone more content :)
@@JustJoshTech Just Josh & co.
Where did the guy go
what is your screen setup for those battery life comment?
I own one of these as well as a Yoga Slim 7x. I'm probably going to return the S 16. I actually use my laptop on my lap and the Zenbook runs hot even in "whisper mode." The performance in that mode is decent, but not as good as the 7x. If you put it on any higher mode, it's too hot to use on your lap. The display is nowhere near as good as the 7x. It's not as sharp because the resolution is spread over a larger area, and it's significantly less bright which is a problem in well-lit rooms. It also is slightly grainy which is noticeable with white backgrounds. That said, I actually prefer the keyboard on the S16. The Slim 7x keyboard is really springy which causes me to make a lot of typing mistakes. However, it's possible that I just prefer low travel laptop keyboards. Lastly, I wish Asus would have made this laptop with a little less sharpness in the edges. If you rest your wrists when u type, you'll definitely feel the edge.
Absent compatibility issues, which aren't super common, or gaming, I think Windows on ARM is the future for Windows thin and lights. At least I hope it is.
Breathe!!
We just got a bunch of comments saying the breaths were too much, so we removed some! We can't please everyone lol. But your comment is noted
No Linux test?
We normally only test for Linux on laptops we recomnend for programming. Due to this laptops thermal constraints, this is not one we'd advise for that
@@JustJoshTech could you please review ThinkPad's T16/E16 new models for programming? Maybe include some source code compilation tests would be greater! Still can't choose between them.
@JustJoshTech It also might take a bit to get the kernel updated for Zen 5. Still, given how poor most Linux first laptops are that use Clevo or Tongfang chassis, I'd like to see that more often than you are doing currently.
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keyboard isn't on par with the 15 inch MacBook Air.
She has the best voice
The zenbook feels like cheap plastic. I went to best buy ready to buy it but as soon as I touched it, it felt so cheap and not premium at all.
When your 16 inch laptop is thinner than a 15,6 Macbook Air. You're clearly doing it wrong.
Any laptop thinner than Macbook pro means they're doing it wrong. THat's it.
Yo, where is Josh? Did you hack the channel?
lol, we just need to divide and conquer as we have alot of content to get out for you all!
16 inch but no num pad
Bro we need programming Laptops ASAP cause in my country there’s discounts 1000$ and less
The biggest showdown will be between AMD vs (upcoming) Intel chips in these laptops.
also these laptops get hot.
Sorry Lady I did not like your review on this laptop. Where is Josh?
getting hot in basics task ? really ?
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@@JustJoshTech Oki :)
She needs her own channel
There is dynamic refresh in the ASUS software.
Very helpful
I'm curious why you would take the Air over this. Is it the abundant ports or the fabulous 60 htz lower resoution display lcd with touch. Maybe it's the amazing speakers. Or the lower amount of ram available. Perhaps it's the higher multicore scores or abundant gaming capabilities. Could it be the larger screen at a lighter weight. Must be its 5 percent better single core on geekbench. Or maybe its higher price for equivalent specs makes you feel superior to those around you. Definitely buy the Air. Remember it's Apple. Remember the Air has a warmer keyboard based on your test.
About 90% of Mac users buy them for macOS as they dislike Windows. So, although the ASUS is better in most regards, as Windows laptops always have been, at least in pricing, that 90% is not going to change for what you list.
Those oleds are the worst thing happened to laptops in history
Lies this channel is Lies. I was assured this channel is Just Josh.
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lol ha! We are trying to get more content out, so have to divide and conquer
@@JustJoshTech And I am excited for all the new content coming our way!
Josh just did a gender transition…