Vampire: the Masquerade - Clan Tzimisce History (Lore)

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  • Опубликовано: 23 янв 2025

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  • @Darkmage1293
    @Darkmage1293 5 лет назад +105

    Trigger Warning on a Tzimisce is like saying a fire is hot. The only option is to run away fast.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +16

      Haha, yeah, I just want to err on the side of caution. :D

    • @Jawzah
      @Jawzah 4 года назад +3

      Erratically Mutagenic Material Warning also applies by default to fiend focused lore.

    • @johnathonhaney8291
      @johnathonhaney8291 2 года назад +2

      Depends...sometimes, you luck out and get the noble ones.

    • @theapexsurvivor9538
      @theapexsurvivor9538 2 года назад

      @@johnathonhaney8291 99 times out of 100, that means that you're one of their genetic experiments already, just through eugenics rather than any of their other methods of mutation...

  • @nonamegiven202
    @nonamegiven202 5 лет назад +65

    Part of me still want it to be that Caine is just going around and giving the new Clans/bloodlines their curses when they arise just for the lols.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +24

      That would be just like him, wouldn't it? "God damn it! Cursed! All o'y'all are cursed!

    • @nervmeister
      @nervmeister 4 года назад +13

      Why? Did some of these upstarts refuse to pay their cab fare?

    • @AspieMediaBobby
      @AspieMediaBobby 3 года назад +5

      @@ThePrimogen Caine:"If God cursed me to a miserable eternity for killing Abel, why should my childer be happy?"

  • @underwms
    @underwms 5 лет назад +66

    I remember something along the lines of the Antediluvian tricking everybody into thinking that his body was consumed but he just had shaped things to make it look like that and something about how he settled in the New World and is now a giant fungus or something like that. Been a long time since I read these lores. Great vid by the way!

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +22

      You've got the gist of it :') The Tzimisce Antediluvian has a large role to play in the lore, still.

    • @alexinfinite7142
      @alexinfinite7142 2 года назад +3

      He's freaking scary

  • @frankparker1191
    @frankparker1191 5 лет назад +30

    My favorite Clan by far, also my favorite to play. Tzimisce add so much horror to a game that can often times be weighed down heavily by Kindred politics and social maneuvering.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +6

      I love them too. Delightful monsters

    • @frankparker1191
      @frankparker1191 5 лет назад +4

      They are indeed. If you have a dark sense of humor, and enjoy imagining truly horrifying fantasy possibilities. Then look no further than Clan Tzimisce. Just imagine what a skilled user of Vicissitude can do with a Potter's Wheel.

  • @Duskwalker68
    @Duskwalker68 5 лет назад +28

    The Tzimisce have always been one of the most interesting clans to me. In my current game I'm running I have a Tzimisce Koldunic Sorcerer who is quickly becoming my favourite character. Can't wait for the Tzimisce culture video!

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +7

      I've always wanted to play a Tzimisce but I've never had the chance! :( Sounds like you're having a blast and I hope my next video can help inspire! :)

  • @philmcwonder8173
    @philmcwonder8173 4 года назад +16

    God I want to play a Tzimisce but GOD DAMN people don't want you to show up with THAT character sheet.

  • @michaelmclaughlin261
    @michaelmclaughlin261 5 лет назад +10

    Lambach holds a terrible secret about the Tzimisce Antediluvian.
    But he is a 'good lad' , and will keep that secret until the Final Nights. ;)

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +1

      Poor Lambach, he used to be someone important, someone impressive. Now he's just this trembling, paranoid wreck. :)

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +3

      @SilverandSoul He MIGHT be! There's a lot pointing to him being Lord Ruthven, but apparently there's some confusion regarding dates between books as well as stated generations... but I'm willing to chalk it up to good old White Wolf beat-missing. Otherwise I'd think we would know more about this -other- Ruthven.
      AFAIK though, the Vaulderie was conducted by Lugoj and Velya using the Fire-flower of Kupola, which is said to have grown out of the Cathedral of Flesh / The Eldest, meaning that all who conduct the Vaulderie is contaminated by the Eldest vitae, yes.
      I dunno man, Tzimisce lore is whack! I didn't even go into the theory of Space Alien Virus Vicissitude. :P

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +2

      Oh yeah derp, of course they used Lambach's blood while doing it, I can't believe that escaped me!

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +2

      @SilverandSoul Porque no los dos? Maybe he's being a "good lad" to the Eldest while simultaneously planning his own, eventual uprising? How do you fight a being that killed -all- of the ones attacking it but you? You build an entire army devoted entirely to the Antediluvians' destruction...

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +1

      @SilverandSoul Judging by BJD's description, most likely the Middle East, chilling out with its siblings. Then again, there's also the iteration that turned into Lugoj, so... y'know... could be anywhere :D Gotta love that about Vicissitude.

  • @johnwaggner9143
    @johnwaggner9143 3 года назад +6

    This video has somehow made me more knowledgeable but also more confused about the Tzimisce. Either way, even MORE excited! I have a really great idea for a character that NOBODY would want at their table unless things were already really dire, I'll have to see if they're playable in 5e. Else we'll go back to Malkavians ;)

  • @TobiasBukkehave
    @TobiasBukkehave 4 года назад +10

    Dude, you're an amazing storyteller.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  4 года назад +1

      Thank you so much, I try my best and it's so nice to hear you say that!

  • @Huddyvonschland
    @Huddyvonschland 5 лет назад +11

    Amazing video! I can't wait for the next part, the Fiends are so terrifying!

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +4

      I'm happy you like it! :D I sweated a lot writing the script for this one, but I think it came out well!

  • @johnathonhaney8291
    @johnathonhaney8291 2 года назад +5

    Two things always stick with me on this clan: 1) no matter the period, they always have been called "Fiends" and 2) they typically come in two flavors: stand-up and sicko with which being which never obvious.

  • @Sarcastic_Sophist
    @Sarcastic_Sophist 5 лет назад +15

    Don't hold it against me but tzimisce fascinate me nearly as much as the tremere (possibly my favorite clan). While the inhuman evolution is certainly interesting, I find myself gravitating more towards the spiritual side when I consider making one. While vissitude is useful, I find the tzimisce pursuits of knowledge far more interesting. For what is the purpose of power without understanding.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +2

      I won't hold it against you, I think the Tzimisce are very fascinating too. Azhi Dahaka is such an interesting concept, like, making your own wheel inside the Karmic Wheel or something...

    • @Sarcastic_Sophist
      @Sarcastic_Sophist 5 лет назад +2

      @@ThePrimogen I also find the rather perplexing history of the clan fascinating as well. I really eant to know the truth of lambach. There are just so many interesting tzimisce npcs, and I am sure many more pcs.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +2

      @@Sarcastic_Sophist Oh for sure! It's such a fascinating clan to study, their many different internal schisms, their development during the Sabbat, etc. I've always wanted to play one, but I never have >

    • @Sarcastic_Sophist
      @Sarcastic_Sophist 5 лет назад

      @@ThePrimogen likewise, granted I've only players 5th edition.

    • @nervmeister
      @nervmeister 4 года назад +4

      "Don't hold it against me but tzimisce fascinate me.........."
      unassuming "gentleman" (with pleasant smirk): "Well you have some taste, it would seem."
      "......nearly as much as the tremere (possibly my favorite clan)"
      unassuming "gentleman" (still smirking but with now an enraged glint in one of many eyes that just opened): "So which end of your digestive system should I start with in the making my new cello?"

  • @justanotherdayinthelife9841
    @justanotherdayinthelife9841 Год назад +1

    Tzimisce is and always have been the very best clan in this game, hell, even their enemies are more interesting than most other clans entirely, the Tremere (honestly a Tzimisce bloodline).

  • @steampunkmewtwo684
    @steampunkmewtwo684 5 лет назад +7

    I honestly would love to play a Tzimisce but sadly I dont think there are any official 5th edition rules for them.

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +4

      Unfortunately, as of today, there aren't any, no. There is a possibility they will show up as a playable clan in the Player's Handbook, so let's cross our fingers!

    • @LordPyro25
      @LordPyro25 5 лет назад +1

      The Primogen They ‘d better give us rules for the Tzimisce at some point, they’re my favourite clan and I’m anticipating their debut to V5

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +4

      @@LordPyro25 I'm sure the Tzimisce will come! I'm happy they're taking their time with the clan though, I'm very interested in learning what's happening to them in the modern era.

    • @Nyrufa
      @Nyrufa 2 года назад

      Fuck 5th edition and everything associated with it. It's a disgrace to the game and its setting. Just buy V20 and enjoy!

    • @OdhinnAwake
      @OdhinnAwake 2 года назад

      Imagine playing V5

  • @harrisonwyckoff9083
    @harrisonwyckoff9083 5 лет назад +1

    Great vid!

  • @Nyrufa
    @Nyrufa 2 года назад +3

    Don't fuck with the Tzimisce. They probably won't kill you, but you'll wish to the gods every single day that they had!

  • @dannyd.9932
    @dannyd.9932 3 года назад

    One of my favorites to play as

  • @Demolitiondude
    @Demolitiondude 5 лет назад +3

    Did I miss the shadow lords killing Dracula?

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +1

      I don't recall that happening :P If that'd been the case, I don't think Tepes would've showed up in the BJD

    • @Demolitiondude
      @Demolitiondude 5 лет назад +1

      @@ThePrimogen it was either killed or kicked out. I've heard killed more often

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +1

      @@Demolitiondude Well he's still alive and kicking in the late 90s / early 00s I think, so either they didn't do a good job or they kicked him out of somewhere temporarily.
      Maybe you're thinking of Vladimir Rustovich?

    • @ssjjshawn
      @ssjjshawn 2 года назад

      Thats Rustovich
      Vlad is chilling in his Castle still, sometimes talking to Durga Sin when she drops by.
      Also Durga Sin should be just about the lowest Generation Ravnos left

  • @SlothinAintEasy
    @SlothinAintEasy 3 года назад +1

    Lady dimitrescu confirmed tzimisce?

  • @Sam-pu7xc
    @Sam-pu7xc 4 года назад +2

    Cool

  • @Sharkakaka
    @Sharkakaka 2 года назад

    I really believe Cupola is just the worm.

  • @smilevsky
    @smilevsky 5 лет назад +6

    It is pronounced as KupAla

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +1

      Thank you! I should’ve known the emphasis ought to be on the second to last vowel...

    • @smilevsky
      @smilevsky 5 лет назад +2

      @@ThePrimogen oh, no worries, some words may be tricky. BTW, thanks a lot for these videos!

    • @ThePrimogen
      @ThePrimogen  5 лет назад +3

      Of course! Thank you for checking them out! I should've known because my spouse is from Slovenia, so I've been learning a bit more about the Slavic languages; over there it's almost always the second to last vowel. :x

  • @Davlavi
    @Davlavi 3 года назад +1

    for the algorithm