There is already a manufacturer of electric motorcycles that is much better for city commuting. Its called the Zero motorcycle. Check it out, its also allot cheaper.
It's the way of the future, however there's something to be said by having an awesome sound and breathing engine under you, thankfully by the time they are all you can buy, and nothing else, I'll be in the other world.
They should keep allowing piston engines if they run on hydrogen, that's pretty much the same thing for the environnement. E-bikes have advantages, like when you're stuck in traffic on a hot day, they don't melt your legs...
Inb4 someone goes "BUUTTT ZZZEERRRROOOOOO DDDDIIIIT FOOOORRSSST" and completely miss the point that Harley is the first MAJOR company to do a production run of an Electric motorcycle. Not honda, not kawi, not ducati, not triumph... not anyone... Except here's Harley. So many people are gonna jump and not realize what's been said.
I think it's a really cool looking bike and I applaud Harley Davidson for such a bold move. This is the way the future is going and the amount of electric cars I now see on the roads here in Wellington NZ along with the scooters and electric skate boards I myself would definitely have one. Keep up the great and informative videos Matt love them.
I got to borrow one for the weekend. I was very impressed!!! It blew away my brothers 17 Dyna Low Rider S with the Stage 4 117 kit...I mean it wasn't even close folks! He said by the time he was ready to shift into second gear, I was already 90-100 feet ahead of him. ICE bikes don't have a chance in competing. The bike was only at 80% factory set power, meaning I didn't even adjust the the custom mode to get 100% out of it. The bike will put a stupid grin on your face days after you get done riding.
Update 10-18-2019 : The Live Wire has resumed Shipping. There was a several day delay on shipping the Live Wire out to dealers due to a charging concern. The issue was isolated with one of the bikes and was not an issue shared with the other Live Wires going out.
I think it is a great looking bike and would definitely be a great second bike. I would love to have one, but I just can't afford it. I hope they are successful with this bike.
Why didn't they call the Live Wire the Silent Bob LOL would of been heaps funny. I do like the bike I think it would be so cool to blast about on it's out of my price range but I get it and from what I hear in reviews I think it is worth the money anyway thanks for another awesome vlog Matt.
I'd love one if I had the cash (which I don't). I love a loud bike, my bikes got a loud pipe fitted, but I'm not afraid of change and new experiences. Hearing the mugen at the TT was awesome, they sounded like jet fighters or UFO. living in the UK means distance isn't much of a problem. My parents, for example, live around 30 miles away on back roads. So this would be great for journeys such as that.
Thanks for this video. The Livewire is truly an amazing bike and I can't wait to try one. I think we're going to see this technology at a significantly lower price point before we even know it. I don't think I'd be able to have this thing as my only bike- (as it is I'm in the wormhole of figuring out how to get an FXDR tank on my 2019 124" Street Bob. I really wish my bike had a little more range) but still the performance of this thing is amazing and it looks great. Everyone I've talked to says its the fastest, best handling Harley ever- and possibly the fastest, best handling "standard" anyone is offering right now. The bike looks like it'd outrun an Aprilia Tuono which is amazing. $30k is stupid expensive- but it's cheaper than the new top of the line Ducati V4 Streetfighter will be I bet!
Nice. Super exciting to see where the motor company is going with this - non-combustion, brembo branded brake cylinders, all white surroundings etc etc
Very cool 😎 Bikes a rocket 🚀 and will smoke anything on the road. Unbelievably fast 💨 Rode it hard in canyons for 6+ hours in eco mode and barely used any battery 🔋(76% left) I was tired way before it needed a recharge. Best part is zero maintenance other than tire replacement and a bike wash 🧼
It’s a cool piece of technology but I just don’t see where he market for this is. It’s way out of the range of the hipsters riding triumphs and scooters that’d be all over this.
@@MattLaidlaw Which means it has a very small market and not gonna sell a lot eventually droping it from the lineup like every other harley with that had poor sales🤦. Cool bike but too expensive and not very practical would much rather buy a sportster for the same purpose this bike was built for.
Can't wait to see these in person. I know it doesn't fit with the overall vibe of the bike but I'd love to see an analog speedo option. I also think someone ought to map out LiveWire dealerships and do a cross country run, just for the sake of it. It would be a blast. Keep up the good work brother!
It won't be electric, it'll be Hydrogen fuel cell, and instant refuelling, no waiting for a heavey battery to recharge, that's the real future. Real world 350 mile range on one fill up.
Good to know Harley is thinking of the future. I just recently own a new Fat Boy after great consideration. Had to determine wether to spend a lot of money on a Ducati Panigale or a Harley Davidson Softail. I spend a lot of years on naked semi sportbikes. But the years begin to count and I noticed that when having a fast bike no matter what age (how old) you are, they always invite to go fast. So I had to decide do I want to keep going fast? Or do I want a relaxed ride, enjoying the ride, the motorcycle and the scenery with the typical 2 cilinder big bore exhaust note in the back. This has always been somewhat of a dilemma for me, fast or relaxed? But then I always ended up buying the fast bike. But I finally purchased my first Harley Davidson, the 2019 Fat Boy, and I have no regrets except for why I didn't get one sooner. I don't think the Livewire will give me that relaxed feeling and ride because of the sporty shape, the high pitch engine sound, the acceleration. For the price I would buy another Softail a de Luxe or Lowrider S. Good that Harley is thinking of the future and younger generation but please don't ever let go of the typical Harley design, sound and feel.
Thanks for the comment. Always good to hear people’s progression. I have the same problem. When I jump on a Sport bike I can’t have fun unless I’m doing 100MPH. On a Harley you can have fun without doubling the speed limit.
Hey Matt, when editing video, don't force cuts to align exactly with the music (sync cut) with such rapidity. Doing it every once in a while is ok but so many of them with such a short interval is a strain in the viewer as it forces the brain to "orient" itself, to discern what the image is, what's going on, only to be forced again into the process even before you fully get your bearing and again and again. It's cool what you're attempting but there is more finesse to it and the bottom line is it shouldn't feel abrupt and contrived, which it does at the beginning of your video. Just a head's up.
Harley can't become like Honda because Honda is Honda and Harley is Harley. Honda is a massive company that builds everything from lawn mowers to airplanes. Harley Davidson is just a failing manufacturer of overpriced motorcycles. Harley will die, its only a matter of time. BTW, I don't hate Harley, I just say it like it is.
Great comments. Good news for us riders Harley-Davidson doing their best to get the younger riders involved, but the Article I read in a business newspaper article was Early signs are no interest in this livewire from younger folks the percentage of orders are from the older generation. Forget about the price,way too much money but what is scary is the age bracket that are buying and it isn’t the younger generation
I’ve read a couple of those articles and it’s impossible to come to any conclusion at this point when the bike just shipped a week ago. That being said it’s unlikely young people will get the bike because they just can’t afford it. I see people in their mid 30’s to 40’s buying this bike that have good income.
... I hope they bring some sattle bags and top case options for the LiveWire. Zero Bikes has some, that buyers very often order. The Livewire is for me a city, cummuter, downtown bike, that needs some cargo capacity.
it is prob the wave of the future but for now, I don't think it will sell very well considering how us Americas LOVE the sound and patented sound of an HD? we will see!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I've been riding Harley Davidson motorcycles for 20 years now and have owned 4 in that time (and never lived in the USA). I really like where the company is going with this bike. It's a good looking bike but it's no roadking special! In all seriousness though, at this point in my life, this bike would be my secondary bike / commuter, and while I would love that, I simply can't afford it to cost more than my RKS. Bring down the price Harley Davidson (a lot), and I'll buy one
Matt Laidlaw. I think the dollar per pound you can compare it to the zero. 2020 it is on par it costs 20,000.00 so then add dealer fee and tax and title and service plan and etc. how far are the shopper really off.? thoughts? have you thought of a comparison?
Not so excited for an electric bike, but I figure the livewire is the test bed for the chassis/brakes/tech that'll be featured in the upcoming Pan-American/streetfighter etc. Still would like to ride one though.
It’s too bad all E vehicles are expensive!! This is one cool bike and I recommend that when you get a chance ride one it’s the future! At this price it’s for the upper 2% of the market in some areas is the USA!! In other countries .005 of the market!
Great video Matt! I think this is a great scoot for those that are commuters or big city people. It is the future of where riding is going. Harley Davidson has to be building bikes outside of the box to survive. Keep up the great info content you put out. I know I greatly appreciate what you do! #unt ;;;
Harley-Davidson is innovative. This is important if the company is to survive in the motorcycle market. Though I like the look of the bike, it's not for me. Perhaps if it was a hybrid I'd be more inclined to buy it.
I'm excited to ride the livewire. I hope I get the opportunity to do it soon. I'm sure my next comment will be unpopular, I think it would be super cool to have an electric bike one could tour on.
It looks great, the finish looks beautiful and Im sure electric bikes are the future but I don't understand why I'd want one now. I like HD because of the engine, style and feel of the ride. Why would I want this, just because it's a HD?
Awesome, you don't have to pay for gas. But you can also just buy a 7K naked bike. Spend the odd $200 per year in maintenance. And maybe $20 per week in fuel (if you ride a ton). It would take nearly 20 years of riding before you started 'saving' money on gas/maintenance with this as opposed to a normal bike. Price point should be 10-12K. Not 30K.
Now that Harley has made a successful electric motorcycle expect competition like Honda and Kawasaki to come out with their bikes it's coming I can see it hopefully Harley doesn't lose in the arms race of electric motorcycles and the problem is there will be brand new companies rising up as well there is alot of potential in this technology the question remains will Harley Davidson stay at the top of this technological food chain so to speak???
Rode one last month during the rally here. Definitely interesting. Fit and finish was really good. Suspension was great. Why cant Harley do that for all of their models?
Its November 3rd and these bikes still aren't in the showrooms. I think harley lost the hype when that charging issue hit the news. 30k is way too much, its definitely historical. I hope the MoCo can figure out a way to make it cheaper, otherwise this project is DOA.
29k is just insane! Plus you add tax it will roughly 32k. Our 2017 bmw i3 with bells and whistles and range extender brought everything down to 37k its because of tax break, loyalty and less msrp discount. This will be a DOA as i can see...
If Harley wants new riders, then keep up the ads & commercials. Biggest point to bring to the attention of non-riders is LEARNING HOW TO RIDE! I come across people all the time that are interested, think riding & motorcycles are cool but don't know how to ride one. Emphasis on the fact that many Harley dealerships offer riding courses. Sell that and I will guarantee you it will drive up bike sales whether gas or electric.
So I would think that an electric bagger would be awesome and it should create more space for more batteries thus extending the range . Need to get 250-300 miles range .
Honestly and truly, the cost of those accessories is insane. I have some very "well to do" friends who are going to buy a Live Wire,and they feel insulted by what the company is asking for those extras.Those who actually "know" what they cost say it shows hubris to show off and throw all those unnecessary expensive parts on there.
LiveWire is old news. H-D needs the mid-range EV line up ASAP. Its make or break time. Watch the Tokyo Motor Show Oct 24th as Yamaha introduces a series of innovative "EV's for mobility" products designed specifically for urban transportation. Even a module that converts a standard wheelchair to a full control EV. The Motor Company needs to learn how to play as a technology company to capture the EV market. And, yes, carbon fiber is the future.
this bike would look good in DUCATI RED PAINT!!!! IT WILL HAVE TO BE A SECOND HAND ONE FOR ME £30.000 IS JUST TOO MUCH. I LOOK FORWARD TO IT ARRIVING IN THE UNITED KINGDOM..
Personally I am mystified by them...I don’t get it...but I also see that HD did the right thing entering this market...by watching the upstarts to see what they came up with.....that defines the potential for this type thing. Then HD applies their experience at mass production and produces a workable bike that is actually built to ride. And boutique bikes that are hand built may be fine for the snooty types....a reliable well made bike that is also splendidly styled is the way to go.....and as to the cost, well maybe Tesla had the right idea....build a big fancy things first and feel out the market...then build bread and butter bikes that we can actually afford....like maybe an addition to the Street series....500cc 750cc......and 50kw!
In my humble opinion the Motor Company missed the mark by releasing a high end Livewire and its 29K price to the general public. Had they had an entry level version for half the price and a mid grade level one they would have received more positive feedback from their customers. Instead they went STRAIGHT to the top end model with an off the chart pricetag of which scared everyone away from ever even looking at it. Poor business practice Harley Davidson. Hopefully you can learn from your mistake.
We didn't get one yet but we should be very soon. There was a shipping delay to make sure there was no issues with the charging system. There was an isolated issue with one bike.
Cool but you need to be doctor that ends with oligist to afford one and a short one too. 😉 Also does it have regenerative type brakes like an EV car? Hope you sell them all! Thanks!
First thing I asked myself is "Does the fairing come off?" In the video I see it does but there's a little frame left. I wonder if that comes off too and if it looks good. I love E-bikes and Harley and I love the sound, but I'm sorry to see it's not more of a cruiser. Feet high, knees bent, your weight on the handlebars... :-(
OMG, I.... Do NOT want to pay $$$ 20k + for a electric scooter. There are some things Harley Davidson should not do and this is one of them. Real simulated engine noise and motor vibration.... LMAO. So I made (HD) powdered water yesterday.... I just had to add water
All great and sweet, BUT price ???!!! How many can lay 30k for a skinny bike ? Come on....,20K and I will look at one at the dealer. The range per charge and the unknown vs to price.,..... nope !!!!
I'm sure, as time progresses this will end the way of Buell, HD need to make bikes for the millennials but this I think is a step too far. Honda,Suzuki and Yamaha can predict the future better, because from concept to launch is less than a year, and they are all working on Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles, which let's face it, will be the way forward. 350 mile range, instant refuel, as with a petrol or diesel, and no battery degradation to deal with the same performance right through from day 1. I don't know about the US but in the UK we are already having problems with grid supplying the few cars we already have, theres not enough electricity being generated to power transport, lighting and now they are talking going over to electric central heating!!! The infrastructure can't support the demand. Transport will have to use something other than electricity.
AAAAAANNNNNNDDDDD Harley has stopped production of the LiveWire as of today.
Love the concept for city / commute riding.. BUT... PRICE guys PRICE !! 😩
Around $30,000, it was said in this Video 14:35.
There is already a manufacturer of electric motorcycles that is much better for city commuting. Its called the Zero motorcycle. Check it out, its also allot cheaper.
My fiancé and I watch all your videos! He rides a fat bob and said he loves laidlaws!
Thank you for watching a supporting your husband. Usually wives hate me.
@@MattLaidlaw lol
@Matt Laidlaw she rides with me all the time, I know she would love for me to get a road glide and trade in my 18 fatbob
And you ride a fat boy?
If I could afford it as my 2nd bike (commuter) I'd definitely buy 1
Bike puts you anywhere you look 👀 on the freeway in a split second. 🤯
B Rad yeah I’d definitely buy one for my commute and never have to buy gas!
I’d buy it right now if I was still able to ride. I applaud HD for taking a step into the future. Good job.
If I was in the market for a high end sport bike, I would seriously consider the Livewire. That thing looks awesome.
but it is not a high end sportbike
Wouldn't it be cool if you could
charge it with your smart phone? 🤔👍
It's the way of the future, however there's something to be said by having an awesome sound and breathing engine under you, thankfully by the time they are all you can buy, and nothing else, I'll be in the other world.
LOL
They should keep allowing piston engines if they run on hydrogen, that's pretty much the same thing for the environnement.
E-bikes have advantages, like when you're stuck in traffic on a hot day, they don't melt your legs...
Loud pipes save lives.
No pipes save weight.
@@herbwag6456 bite me
A bike not being heard is way too risky. Give me the combustion engine all day every day.
No, good riding skills save your life.
True, not hating on the livewire for not being loud but whenever I'm driving and I hear loud rumbling the first thing I do is look around for the bike
Inb4 someone goes "BUUTTT ZZZEERRRROOOOOO DDDDIIIIT FOOOORRSSST" and completely miss the point that Harley is the first MAJOR company to do a production run of an Electric motorcycle.
Not honda, not kawi, not ducati, not triumph... not anyone... Except here's Harley.
So many people are gonna jump and not realize what's been said.
There’s more than just zero that did it first.
Thanks for bringing all things Harley to youtube, good job, I need to test this bad boy!
I think it's a really cool looking bike and I applaud Harley Davidson for such a bold move. This is the way the future is going and the amount of electric cars I now see on the roads here in Wellington NZ along with the scooters and electric skate boards I myself would definitely have one. Keep up the great and informative videos Matt love them.
I got to borrow one for the weekend. I was very impressed!!! It blew away my brothers 17 Dyna Low Rider S with the Stage 4 117 kit...I mean it wasn't even close folks! He said by the time he was ready to shift into second gear, I was already 90-100 feet ahead of him. ICE bikes don't have a chance in competing. The bike was only at 80% factory set power, meaning I didn't even adjust the the custom mode to get 100% out of it. The bike will put a stupid grin on your face days after you get done riding.
Update 10-18-2019 : The Live Wire has resumed Shipping. There was a several day delay on shipping the Live Wire out to dealers due to a charging concern. The issue was isolated with one of the bikes and was not an issue shared with the other Live Wires going out.
I think it is a great looking bike and would definitely be a great second bike. I would love to have one, but I just can't afford it. I hope they are successful with this bike.
It is eye candy... great looking bike IMHO.
Why didn't they call the Live Wire the Silent Bob LOL would of been heaps funny. I do like the bike I think it would be so cool to blast about on it's out of my price range but I get it and from what I hear in reviews I think it is worth the money anyway thanks for another awesome vlog Matt.
Thanks man.
Should have called it the Electra glide.. just a thought 😂 I love it by the way. Think I'll need a lottery win to buy one though .
I'd love one if I had the cash (which I don't). I love a loud bike, my bikes got a loud pipe fitted, but I'm not afraid of change and new experiences. Hearing the mugen at the TT was awesome, they sounded like jet fighters or UFO. living in the UK means distance isn't much of a problem. My parents, for example, live around 30 miles away on back roads. So this would be great for journeys such as that.
I think this bike will be a milestone in motorcycle history. You need to put this in the track to know it's limits.
it's limitations are well known. it's a $30,000 CITY BIKE
Thanks for this video. The Livewire is truly an amazing bike and I can't wait to try one. I think we're going to see this technology at a significantly lower price point before we even know it. I don't think I'd be able to have this thing as my only bike- (as it is I'm in the wormhole of figuring out how to get an FXDR tank on my 2019 124" Street Bob. I really wish my bike had a little more range) but still the performance of this thing is amazing and it looks great. Everyone I've talked to says its the fastest, best handling Harley ever- and possibly the fastest, best handling "standard" anyone is offering right now. The bike looks like it'd outrun an Aprilia Tuono which is amazing. $30k is stupid expensive- but it's cheaper than the new top of the line Ducati V4 Streetfighter will be I bet!
Nice. Super exciting to see where the motor company is going with this - non-combustion, brembo branded brake cylinders, all white surroundings etc etc
It could pay for itself and in Delhi commute without spending any money on gasoline Thanks for the video Matt Take Care
Mine is being prepped, FRIDAY it's mine.
As always,...another great Informative review Matt 👍 looking forward to your updated full road test thoughts on the LiveWire🏍
Ride this bike it’s amazing
Whoever says anything negative isn’t a real bike guy and doesn’t know what they hell they are talking about!
Very cool 😎 Bikes a rocket 🚀 and will smoke anything on the road. Unbelievably fast 💨 Rode it hard in canyons for 6+ hours in eco mode and barely used any battery 🔋(76% left) I was tired way before it needed a recharge. Best part is zero maintenance other than tire replacement and a bike wash 🧼
You rode one for 6 hours? Who’s bike was it?
Matt Laidlaw Hes bullshitting
It’s a cool piece of technology but I just don’t see where he market for this is. It’s way out of the range of the hipsters riding triumphs and scooters that’d be all over this.
You’re right. This is for the guy would has a bunch of money that wants a fun toy.
@@MattLaidlaw Which means it has a very small market and not gonna sell a lot eventually droping it from the lineup like every other harley with that had poor sales🤦. Cool bike but too expensive and not very practical would much rather buy a sportster for the same purpose this bike was built for.
Can't wait to see these in person. I know it doesn't fit with the overall vibe of the bike but I'd love to see an analog speedo option. I also think someone ought to map out LiveWire dealerships and do a cross country run, just for the sake of it. It would be a blast. Keep up the good work brother!
Yea that would be a cool thing to watch.
The need an electric ultra limited with like 500 miles range.
It won't be electric, it'll be Hydrogen fuel cell, and instant refuelling, no waiting for a heavey battery to recharge, that's the real future. Real world 350 mile range on one fill up.
Nice Video, Matt! Thanks for the information detail, it is quite a bike!!
I got to ride the prototype and I was duly impressed and if I was in the market for a commuter or in town bike it would be at the top of my list.
Good to know Harley is thinking of the future.
I just recently own a new Fat Boy after great consideration. Had to determine wether to spend a lot of money on a Ducati Panigale or a Harley Davidson Softail. I spend a lot of years on naked semi sportbikes.
But the years begin to count and I noticed that when having a fast bike no matter what age (how old) you are, they always invite to go fast.
So I had to decide do I want to keep going fast? Or do I want a relaxed ride, enjoying the ride, the motorcycle and the scenery with the typical 2 cilinder big bore exhaust note in the back. This has always been somewhat of a dilemma for me, fast or relaxed? But then I always ended up buying the fast bike.
But I finally purchased my first Harley Davidson, the 2019 Fat Boy, and I have no regrets except for why I didn't get one sooner.
I don't think the Livewire will give me that relaxed feeling and ride because of the sporty shape, the high pitch engine sound, the acceleration. For the price I would buy another Softail a de Luxe or Lowrider S.
Good that Harley is thinking of the future and younger generation but please don't ever let go of the typical Harley design, sound and feel.
Thanks for the comment. Always good to hear people’s progression. I have the same problem. When I jump on a Sport bike I can’t have fun unless I’m doing 100MPH. On a Harley you can have fun without doubling the speed limit.
Hey Matt, when editing video, don't force cuts to align exactly with the music (sync cut) with such rapidity. Doing it every once in a while is ok but so many of them with such a short interval is a strain in the viewer as it forces the brain to "orient" itself, to discern what the image is, what's going on, only to be forced again into the process even before you fully get your bearing and again and again. It's cool what you're attempting but there is more finesse to it and the bottom line is it shouldn't feel abrupt and contrived, which it does at the beginning of your video. Just a head's up.
thanks man. I'll try to be better about that.
Harley needs to become like a Honda
Make a bike for everyone in every size and in every class
Advance your technology
Harley can't become like Honda because Honda is Honda and Harley is Harley. Honda is a massive company that builds everything from lawn mowers to airplanes. Harley Davidson is just a failing manufacturer of overpriced motorcycles. Harley will die, its only a matter of time. BTW, I don't hate Harley, I just say it like it is.
It is a neat bike, and I like the route HD is going with these new models.
Great comments. Good news for us riders Harley-Davidson doing their best to get the younger riders involved, but the Article I read in a business newspaper article was Early signs are no interest in this livewire from younger folks the percentage of orders are from the older generation. Forget about the price,way too much money but what is scary is the age bracket that are buying and it isn’t the younger generation
I’ve read a couple of those articles and it’s impossible to come to any conclusion at this point when the bike just shipped a week ago. That being said it’s unlikely young people will get the bike because they just can’t afford it. I see people in their mid 30’s to 40’s buying this bike that have good income.
Harley is working on a hybrid touring bike which will double the range of your typical road glide/street glide
... I hope they bring some sattle bags and top case options for the LiveWire. Zero Bikes has some, that buyers very often order. The Livewire is for me a city, cummuter, downtown bike, that needs some cargo capacity.
Breaking News: HD has halted the production of the Livewire after discovering issues with the charging system.
www.asphaltandrubber.com/news/harley-davidson-halts-livewire-production/
Oh dear :/
Shipping has resumed. The issue turned out to be isolated to one bike and not a shared problem with all production.
@@MattLaidlaw cheers matt. www.theverge.com/2019/10/18/20921200/harley-davidson-livewire-charging-restart-production-deliveries
Way too much money. Buy a Fat bob 2018 or 19.
Maxwell nailed it. Most Harley riders don't even know what carbon fiber is.
COME OUT THE WOODS
Every plane you fly in has it.
What plants you smoking?
@@splodge5714 MADE IN AMERICA PLANTS.
The great thing about this bike is the price. Only $30,000 plus dealer prep and dealer adds and dealer Assembly and dealer doc fee.
it is prob the wave of the future but for now, I don't think it will sell very well considering how us Americas LOVE the sound and patented sound of an HD? we will see!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What about luggage accessories and maybe backrest passenger seat
I've been riding Harley Davidson motorcycles for 20 years now and have owned 4 in that time (and never lived in the USA). I really like where the company is going with this bike. It's a good looking bike but it's no roadking special! In all seriousness though, at this point in my life, this bike would be my secondary bike / commuter, and while I would love that, I simply can't afford it to cost more than my RKS. Bring down the price Harley Davidson (a lot), and I'll buy one
Matt Laidlaw. I think the dollar per pound you can compare it to the zero. 2020 it is on par it costs 20,000.00 so then add dealer fee and tax and title and service plan and etc. how far are the shopper really off.? thoughts? have you thought of a comparison?
I'm not sure yet about a electric bike!
Good review my opinion is that it is a very cool bike. I would totally ride one.
Not so excited for an electric bike, but I figure the livewire is the test bed for the chassis/brakes/tech that'll be featured in the upcoming Pan-American/streetfighter etc. Still would like to ride one though.
It’s too bad all E vehicles are expensive!! This is one cool bike and I recommend that when you get a chance ride one it’s the future! At this price it’s for the upper 2% of the market in some areas is the USA!! In other countries .005 of the market!
Great video Matt! I think this is a great scoot for those that are commuters or big city people. It is the future of where riding is going. Harley Davidson has to be building bikes outside of the box to survive. Keep up the great info content you put out. I know I greatly appreciate what you do! #unt ;;;
This bike is for rich people
I love it! Price is too high though.
Harley-Davidson is innovative. This is important if the company is to survive in the motorcycle market. Though I like the look of the bike, it's not for me. Perhaps if it was a hybrid I'd be more inclined to buy it.
I'm excited to ride the livewire. I hope I get the opportunity to do it soon. I'm sure my next comment will be unpopular, I think it would be super cool to have an electric bike one could tour on.
It looks great, the finish looks beautiful and Im sure electric bikes are the future but I don't understand why I'd want one now. I like HD because of the engine, style and feel of the ride. Why would I want this, just because it's a HD?
So basically all the exhaust manufacturers will be out of business in a few years. ☹️
Finally LED !
I like it and if I lived in the city it would be on my list.🤙🇨🇦
Where can we find info or concept images of future HD e-bikes?
Awesome, you don't have to pay for gas. But you can also just buy a 7K naked bike. Spend the odd $200 per year in maintenance. And maybe $20 per week in fuel (if you ride a ton). It would take nearly 20 years of riding before you started 'saving' money on gas/maintenance with this as opposed to a normal bike.
Price point should be 10-12K. Not 30K.
If you’re looking for an economic bike then move on my friend. No one is making the argument that this bike is going to save you money.
Now that Harley has made a successful electric motorcycle expect competition like Honda and Kawasaki to come out with their bikes it's coming I can see it hopefully Harley doesn't lose in the arms race of electric motorcycles and the problem is there will be brand new companies rising up as well there is alot of potential in this technology the question remains will Harley Davidson stay at the top of this technological food chain so to speak???
Rode one last month during the rally here. Definitely interesting. Fit and finish was really good. Suspension was great. Why cant Harley do that for all of their models?
They do!
Its November 3rd and these bikes still aren't in the showrooms. I think harley lost the hype when that charging issue hit the news. 30k is way too much, its definitely historical. I hope the MoCo can figure out a way to make it cheaper, otherwise this project is DOA.
We have gotten 2. Both sold. The bike is awesome.
Even if they did have a smooth market delivery the LiveWire can't compete with the Zero SR/F.
It's Legolas and Gimli! Erm ... never mind. Hey Matt, how come I didn't see you in Paris flippin' Texas last weekend, hmmm? ;)
Yea, I wish I could have been there. That looked pretty cool.
This is a very well though out EV, it has a lot going on like the quick charge CCS that nobody talks about much. This makes long rides very possible
And they just halted production a few hours ago on 10/14/19. They probably didn’t mention that
10-18-2019 Shipping has resumed. The issue turned out to be isolated to one bike and not a shared problem with all production.
29k is just insane! Plus you add tax it will roughly 32k. Our 2017 bmw i3 with bells and whistles and range extender brought everything down to 37k its because of tax break, loyalty and less msrp discount. This will be a DOA as i can see...
You can. Cross Canada now
I would like to see Fat Bob style forward pegs. My knees would be too cramped with my long legs. Cool bike though.
If Harley wants new riders, then keep up the ads & commercials. Biggest point to bring to the attention of non-riders is LEARNING HOW TO RIDE! I come across people all the time that are interested, think riding & motorcycles are cool but don't know how to ride one. Emphasis on the fact that many Harley dealerships offer riding courses. Sell that and I will guarantee you it will drive up bike sales whether gas or electric.
I agree. Motorcycles sells across the board are declining because less people are learning to ride at a young age. Among other reasons.
So I would think that an electric bagger would be awesome and it should create more space for more batteries thus extending the range . Need to get 250-300 miles range .
Honestly and truly, the cost of those accessories is insane.
I have some very "well to do" friends who are going to buy a Live Wire,and they feel insulted by what the company is asking for those extras.Those who actually "know" what they cost say it shows hubris to show off and throw all those unnecessary expensive parts on there.
LiveWire is old news. H-D needs the mid-range EV line up ASAP. Its make or break time. Watch the Tokyo Motor Show Oct 24th as Yamaha introduces a series of innovative "EV's for mobility" products designed specifically for urban transportation. Even a module that converts a standard wheelchair to a full control EV. The Motor Company needs to learn how to play as a technology company to capture the EV market. And, yes, carbon fiber is the future.
this bike would look good in DUCATI RED PAINT!!!! IT WILL HAVE TO BE A SECOND HAND ONE FOR ME £30.000 IS JUST TOO MUCH. I LOOK FORWARD TO IT ARRIVING IN THE UNITED KINGDOM..
Demo rode one the other day. 😳!
If it's affordably they will come.when will HD learn.
Great bike for hsrley
I would love one as a daily, but im guessing price in Australia will be extreme !
I've heard about $44k (AUD)
Wait n see.
Greetings from Melbourne.
Personally I am mystified by them...I don’t get it...but I also see that HD did the right thing entering this market...by watching the upstarts to see what they came up with.....that defines the potential for this type thing. Then HD applies their experience at mass production and produces a workable bike that is actually built to ride. And boutique bikes that are hand built may be fine for the snooty types....a reliable well made bike that is also splendidly styled is the way to go.....and as to the cost, well maybe Tesla had the right idea....build a big fancy things first and feel out the market...then build bread and butter bikes that we can actually afford....like maybe an addition to the Street series....500cc 750cc......and 50kw!
In my humble opinion the Motor Company missed the mark by releasing a high end Livewire and its 29K price to the general public. Had they had an entry level version for half the price and a mid grade level one they would have received more positive feedback from their customers. Instead they went STRAIGHT to the top end model with an off the chart pricetag of which scared everyone away from ever even looking at it. Poor business practice Harley Davidson. Hopefully you can learn from your mistake.
Matt, did you guys get one yet? My local dealer says they are having delays getting theirs in.
We didn't get one yet but we should be very soon. There was a shipping delay to make sure there was no issues with the charging system. There was an isolated issue with one bike.
Does it ride differently than the prototype?
It’s very similar. I’ve ridden both. The suspension is definitely better on the final product.
So whats the deal with LiveWire production cancelled? catching fire during charging?
Haha. I hope not. I don’t know the details except for what everyone else knows. Something to do with the AC charge.
Ref: 4:20 in the video clip... that hole in the tailpiece looks really odd. What is the meaning of this?
Cost will doom it. Zero is half as much and goes twice as far.
Not really...
@@MrPAULONEAL 19k with a 200 mile range
Cool but you need to be doctor that ends with oligist to afford one and a short one too. 😉 Also does it have regenerative type brakes like an EV car? Hope you sell them all! Thanks!
Yes it has regenerative braking. You can adjust the drag in the different ride modes.
Love it . But the bike is way too expensive . 15-17k grand would be ok imo .
First thing I asked myself is "Does the fairing come off?" In the video I see it does but there's a little frame left. I wonder if that comes off too and if it looks good. I love E-bikes and Harley and I love the sound, but I'm sorry to see it's not more of a cruiser. Feet high, knees bent, your weight on the handlebars... :-(
It's actually pretty upright. Once you are riding it you have very little weight on the handlebars.
A silent bike is good for lane splitting here in California lol? No thank you.
OMG, I.... Do NOT want to pay $$$ 20k + for a electric scooter. There are some things Harley Davidson should not do and this is one of them.
Real simulated engine noise and motor vibration.... LMAO.
So I made (HD) powdered water yesterday.... I just had to add water
All great and sweet, BUT price ???!!! How many can lay 30k for a skinny bike ? Come on....,20K and I will look at one at the dealer. The range per charge and the unknown vs to price.,..... nope !!!!
If I had the money to buy one I'd buy something else. To expensive, to short range, too soon. I wish HD well but it's a very tough sale.
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I'm sure, as time progresses this will end the way of Buell, HD need to make bikes for the millennials but this I think is a step too far. Honda,Suzuki and Yamaha can predict the future better, because from concept to launch is less than a year, and they are all working on Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles, which let's face it, will be the way forward. 350 mile range, instant refuel, as with a petrol or diesel, and no battery degradation to deal with the same performance right through from day 1. I don't know about the US but in the UK we are already having problems with grid supplying the few cars we already have, theres not enough electricity being generated to power transport, lighting and now they are talking going over to electric central heating!!! The infrastructure can't support the demand. Transport will have to use something other than electricity.
Ribbed for the ladies
$ 30,000?? ....nahhhhh!
$44,000 (AUD) in 'OZ' (Australia) ...... nahhhhh!
It's only for Greta, Pierre & Al.....
Europe = 33.900€ /Zero Motorcycles 22.000€
Both prices are expensive. What's your point?
@@PanM8 34,900€ is the LiveWire rate here in Europe 22,000 c is the cheapest and most efficient zero rate in Europe
I suppose the point is one is 11,900€ more expensive than the other.
@@splodge5714 Yes, it's really expensive.
@@PanM8 yes but the "zero" is more efficient with several years of experience
Tow truck needed often!