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Fritz Haber, together with Carl Bosch, developed a way to manufacture ammonia, which revolutionized agriculture. Around the same time, Haber figured out how to weaponize chlorine gas.
True, he was also the creator of the mustard gas
@@willghezzi Mustard gas was invented by Frederick Guthrie in 1860.
@@Amrod97 oh sorry, I thought I heard indi say that Fritz invented it in the sabaton history episode of this song
He also invented Zyklon B.
@@willghezzi There he said that his institute produced mustard gas (which is true), not invented it. The only battle gas invented by Fritz Haber was chlorine gas. Which doesn't change the fact that it was the Germans who first used it in battle so he must have been the one who got the idea to use it that way.
The song says it perfectly. In peace time, he belonged to the world, but in war time, he belonged to his fatherland.
Which is funny because his deadly creation effected heavily the life of the man who ended up indirectly ousting him from his institute
Haber once said "during peace time a scientist belongs to the World, but during war time he belongs to his country"
@@skruttigaming Im Frieden für die Welt, im Krieg für das Vaterland.
Now the whole WWII makes sence!
Motherland vs Fatherland, no chances for Germany
Moms 100% wins
The song is about Fritz Haber - he created a process for producing Ammonia. This is a key ingredient in making fertiliser (hence the stuff about feeding the world), but also in making explosives. Separately, he was also a major part of WW1 Germany's work on weaponising chlorine and other poisonous gases. Hence Sinner or Saint. Given that two-thirds of all global food production today relies on his process, it's a real conundrum.
yeah, that'ts the problem. he personally went to the front, to instruct the soldiers on how to best use his weapon, so he killed a million.
but without his invention, the global population would at like 3-4 billion, so he SAVED billions.
what's worse? does it make it good? that's the point of this story :)
I say it does, since that 1 million sometime in history are negligent, but saving a 100 billion due to it?
but that's my tiny opinion, if i'm to look at our world from an outworld perspective.
He designed and employed a weapon that was at the time unprecedented and perfectly legal. I think it's a bit hypocritical to retroactively blame him when what he was doing was accepted back then.
@@Obscurite1221 Even while only about 3% of all WW1 casualties were due to chemical weapons, his work opened Pandora's box, pathing way to much deadlier compounds.
@@ceu160193 If he hadn't made it, someone else would have. It's not exactly a difficult connection to make.
@@Obscurite1221 Possibly someone with enough conscience to not unleash it on humanity. And unlike people involved in creation of nuclear weapons, he wasn't even sorry about it.
I think ive heard this song 20 times since it came out, I fell in love with it right away, its very different and Joakims voice is more sinister than normal and I love it, its slower than most songs but that just gives it that more creepy effect in my opinion
:O)
That ‘father of toxic gas and chemical warfare’ line just hits different
Reminds me of Dreadnought due to the slow lyrics and his deeper voice
Actually the crops are growing referrs to the fact that the father of chemical warfare originally developed a way to make crop development explode to counter hunger in a growing world population! This was before ww1
Yes, one of his inventions saved billons of people and another killed and crippled thousands, so what is the conclusion? Was he a monster or a saviour? Or both?
@@marinamucic908 that is the question indeed! To be honest I'm not sure!
@@sandradace6634 The unfortunate truth of the world? Progress requires sacrifice.
@@mtgemperor it is unfortunate!
@@marinamucic908 I'd call him a Saint any day of the week because, well.. History is written by the victor and sadly, Haber was on the losing side..
History that should make us think. A "good" invention (fertilizer for agriculture to increase crop growth) can also become something "bad" - a weapon for war (chlorine gas) that killed countless people. It is similar with nuclear fission: nuclear reactors can provide energy, nuclear bombs can cause the worst possible damage for us. The song unfortunately fits exactly to what is going on in the world at the moment. Sabaton has once again mastered to express precisely this feeling with their music.
The Haber Bosch process has nothing to do with chemical warfare. It was a completely separate project. Closest thing it has is that the ammonia can also be used to create explosives and that was what initially got Haber notoriety in German High Command
@@operkoi8954 you can also mix ammonia nitrate (what fritz invented a process for) and sodium hypochloride (aka bleach) to produce chlorine gas. The sickly green gas that kills just about anything it touches (not mustard gas, that was an entirely different nightmare).
Its the main reason why it's a terrible idea to mix cleaning products, as both ammonia and chlorine are good cleaners, but when combined unleashes a chemical weapon in your bathroom. Unless you know exactly what's in your cleaning products, chemically speaking, you run the risk of producing very dangerous and toxic reactions.
@@Mr.Sparks.173 that is correct. I believe amonia in sweden has a lable on it stating that you should never combine it with anything else.
And thing is: He didn't mind his creation being used for warfare. In fact he suggested mixing multiple gases to bypass any protection that was used against the gas deployment.
he also oversaw the deployment
For me hes a Saint cause without him we never could feed the over 7 Billion People on the World today. Agriculture had been died slowly without Fritz Haber.
kill a million, save a billion
@@spitfireflyer2205 more like save an infinite number of people because we will continue using his tech far into the future.
It depends on your perspective really, yes he did massive good for the world....
But the soldiers in the trenches probably hated his guts at the time.
@@samnemeth-smyth6109 doesnt matter what he did to the world is more worth then a few 10 thousand dead people who would have died anyways.
A invenção dele abriu precendentes para a invenção das bombas atômicas e nucleares ...
The crops part is a reference to the fact that the chemicals used in poison gas were prior also used to create substances which would artificially to get more food during every harvest.
Both usages were intentional. Both designed by the same guy. We wouldn't have enough food to allow this many people to live on the planet at the same time. So in that sense he was a "Father" of humanity.
But at the same time he specifically designed a poison gas as a weapon for the German Empire which lead to thousands of dead. Indeed a mad scientist.
He's a perfect distillation of humanity's complexity. Created the means by which our population thrives at numbers impossible otherwise, but also created a series of horrific chemical weapons that took thousands of lives & condemned thousands more to lives of suffering. Both his great contributions are used to this day. Sinner or Saint? Neither... Fritz Haber was simply a Scientist.
Here my day of the quote " it time of peace scientific use for good agriculture of hope but in war create a madness of poison of death"
Specifically, his major invention was the artificial synthesis of ammonia nitrate - the major chemical component of fertilizer, and when combined with Chlorine (aka bleach) can also create Chlorine gas which is a powerful irritant at low concentrations and outright sheds any living tissue with water in it at higher concentrations. It's also a huge reason why you should NEVER mix cleaning agents, as one can contain ammonia, and the other can contain chlorine, making a very toxic and very dangerous gas. Ammonia nitrate is also the chemical that blew up Beirut, and it's also used in modern gunpowder and explosives.
@@Mr.Sparks.173
Don’t forget Timothy McVei. After what he did, the Feds require a special license to buy more than a few pounds of fertilizer for private use, or a red flag goes up. It is fortunate that it’s extremely difficult to make ammonia in quantity without an industrial laboratory.
@@Mr.Sparks.173 So it's not just history that we are inspired to learn from Sabaton songs. Comments such as yours also clarify important lessons from chemistry regarding common household substances.
Fritz Haber was born in Prussian Occupied Poland to a lower class Jewish family. However, under Kaiser Wilhelm II, reforms to laws gave Jews the opportunity to seek positions formerly barred to them. This was relatively unique in Europe, and made Haber loyal to the German Empire, as they essentially gave him the ability to be more than just some downtrodden and persecuted second class citizen, as was the common lot of Jews in Europe in that time. Upon securing his education as chemist, Haber would marry his wife Clara Immerwahr, the first German woman to get a doctorate in Chemistry. She would assist him to some degree in his research while also raising their kid, Hermann Haber.
At this time, the world was on a limited food supply. It was estimated that the world could support 1.25 billion people tops and anymore would face starvation. Haber set out to solve this problem with Carl Bosch. In 1910, they would successfully demonstrate the Haber-Bosch process, which distilled nitrogen in the air into liquid ammonia which could be used as fertilizer. Thanks to this, a new agricultural revolution ensued. It's estimated as much as 50% of your nutrients are thanks to the process. The process saved billions of lives. However, in 1914, WWI broke out. When the Germans started to bog down, Haber went before Germany and offered his services to use the Haber-Bosch process in reverse to convert ammonia to chlorine gas. He managed to secure the approval of Germany and in the Battle of Ypres in 1915, the first use of chemical weapons was used. His process was also used to make fertilizer for explosives, allowing the mass production of explosives such as artillery. In WWI, chemical weapons would claim 100,000 lives. His explosives would end the lives of millions. This was not without cost though. Haber's wife was a staunch pacifist and greatly disagreed with him making chemical weapons. They would often argue over this and eventually, it would drive her to suicide in 1915. In 1918, after the war, Haber would get the Nobel Prize for Chemistry for his process. The next invention of Haber's process was the formulation of another chemical, a scentless, cyanide based pesticide. Invented by the Deutsche Gesellschaft für Schädlingsbekämpfung mbH or Degesch, the chemical became known as Zyklon B. Invented in 1922, this chemical would come to prominence 20 years later, as the chemical used to carry out the holocaust. In this way, Haber, a Jewish scientist, who died in 1934, invented a process that saved billions and killed millions, including his fellow Jewish kin.
The man who ‘made bread from air’ is a complicated figure.
For the patriotic Haber, it seems there was little doubt that all other considerations were secondary to the interests of his country. New technology could, he concluded, give Germany the decisive advantage to end the war quickly. If his efforts had succeeded, the war might have been over sooner with many more lives saved, but instead Haber’s discoveries have become one of the most controversial parts of modern warfare - chemical weapons.
Weaponised chemical irritants were already banned by the Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907, but Haber was not working to produce just an irritant gas. Instead, he focused his efforts on a gas that would be a weapon in its own right. After extensive tests and analyses, Haber travelled to Ypres in April 1915. It was there that he supervised the first use of chlorine gas, now so inextricably linked to the trench warfare of the First World War.
Shortly after Haber returned from Ypres, his wife committed suicide in protest at his work. Haber’s loyalty to the German cause seems to have remained unshaken and the next morning he left to oversee chlorine gas being used on the Eastern Front.
Here, I will summarize the story. I'm doing this a second time to check myself, and the original got deleted because RUclips had to reload for some reason. Fritz Haber made an alliance with Carl Bosch, and it was called the Haber-Bosch Alliance. This caused a boom in agriculture, and increased the population very quickly. The two men are praised for this in their time. Then WW1 happens, and all of a sudden, stalemates become a huge issue, as it is one reason why WW1 was so horrible in the first place. In response, Haber tried to help Germany break these stalemates with gas. The first time this was used in Ypres on April 22nd, 1915. This was the beginning of a field of toxic gases, and gas masks to counter them. They also used dogs to be notified when the gas was coming. This also means there were gas masks for dogs back then, and I think horses even gotten masks too.
Maybe this is weird to say, but you have a really smooth voice. I like that you aren't obnoxious like many reaction channels.
("During peace time a scientist belongs to the World, but during war time he belongs to his country." ) ( "Death is death no matter how it is inflicted" ) "The field of scientific abstraction encompasses independent kingdoms of ideas and of experiments and within these, rulers whose fame outlasts the centuries. But they are not the only kings in science. He also is a king who guides the spirit of his contemporaries by knowledge and creative work, by teaching and research in the field of applied science, and who conquers for science provinces which have only been raided by craftsmen. Some quotes from Fritz Haber and your right has Halloween theme too.
Watch the Sabaton History, it will giving you all explanations. I didn't know that the same man who invented fertilizer and increased the crops all over the world is the same man who invented chemical warfare
A lot of pesticides used in agriculture will make humans sick, if not outright kill us. This is why you should be washing any and all produce you buy.
Because of the topic and how haunting it is, I listen to this, followed up by Attack of the Dead Men. Also, if it hasn't been mentioned, crops growing on the field is Fritz Haber's collaborative work with Carl Bosch to mass produce ammonia to feed the world, however, in war time he created the chlorine-bromine mix to use in warfare.
It gives you Castlevania vibes.
The double meaning of fed the world by ways of science is nice writing.
The moral of the song is does one man's good outweighs his bad.
When I first heard this song I was surprised at how different it is from their other songs. It took a couple of times listening to it before it become one of my new favorite Sabaton Songs. This song called Father is going to be part of their next EP which will be released either later this year or early next year. I am looking forward to their other new songs that will be part of that EP.
I know not many enjoy it, but I do love the analysis of each song and how you go in depth about the meaning, lyrics, and tones of the songs. Love the stuff
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Dave, the Haber-Bosch process, pioneered by Fritz Haber is used to produce ammonia. ammonia from then and even more so now has become an absolutely vital source of the Nitrogen component in synthetic fertiliser and so ammonia for this reason has become one of the most widely produced (and most important) chemical in the world today. incidentally, the ammonia molecule can also be used to produce explosives, whish Germany utilized to a great extent following the British blockade of their over seas imports of raw materials. Fritz haber also lead the science team on the front lines (almost) that developed numerous "chemical agents" most notable chlorine gas.
This is great I was just at a Sabaton Concert this weekend. I think this particular song is perfect for the season. By the way anyone who can catch them on tour do. They are touring the US through October 23 with Epica!
I really enjoy your reactions. Most of the reaction you watch they start spitting facts about Haber like they just knew about him off the top of there heads. Maybe they do know but they feel rehearsed. Your videos seem very genuine. I enjoy watching you learn with people as they listen to Sabatons music. Which is the whole reason they make music about historical events. Which is not only to entertain but also educate. Keep doing you man love the content!
A perfect song for the beginning of October!
The man in question is called Fritz Haber was responsible for the Haber-Bosh process that creates amonia used in fertilisers in the late 19th century, and when Sabaton says "Father of toxic gas, and chemical warfare" they're refering to how Germany in WWI used his workto create and weaponise gas, the same used during the events of The Attack of the Dead Men for example, where Russian soldier fought back the Germans even though most of them if not all of them (them = Russian soldiers) were victims of chlorine gas.
PS. Fritz never felt remorse for the use of his work during the Great War
I love how they make the art for Bosch look like the re-animator
The greatest thing that Sabaton does with their music is get their audience asking questions.
Just like you said in the video it was for me too, I wasnt sure about the song after the first listen but it got better towards the end of the song and by now I have heard the song multiple times and I really like it. The piano, the chorus and the singing in the solo is just great.
Usually when I'm listening to a song a bunch of reviewers will come up, and they're usually annoying. You broke the mold dude. Love this shit, also you're voice is audiobook worthy!
Man, you have one hell of a deep voice.😮
P.S.: the man pictured holding the two vials is Fritz Haber. Herr (mister) Bosch was his associate. 😉
I think it's so easy for humans to categorize people into good and bad when real life is a lot more gray. He is the most extreme example, but if you analyze everyone, there is almost never someone purely good or evil.
This song honestly made me tear up thinking about the victims of the gas attacks. Nobody deserves that.
It may not have the exact same vibe, but Attack of the Dead Men is also about chlorine gas. But more on how it didn't do all of what it was supposed to.
Which actually makes it a worse weapon - it could affect people for years after the battle/war - a never ending injury...
Its terrifying to think about- hopefully we'll never see the like of it again...
@@thomasjones6216 Hopefully not. Although Russia may decide to play dirty later on
Fritz Haber believed that his first duty was to his homeland, if you look back today - we're all alive because of the Haber-Bosch process but at the same time every soldier who has died from Chemical/Biology Warfare is dead from his actions
Billions alive vs millions dead... it's an impossible contradiction
Haber's wife was also a qualified chemist and scientist she was so disgusted by Haber's weaponization of chemicals that this in concert with the 1900s and 1920s attitudes to women preventing her from following her passion resulted in her decision to end her life
Their son found her.... its on Sabaton History if you want to know more
Fritz haber is famous for 2 reasons. 1 he is definitely the father of chemical warfare and built chemical weapons during WW1 for Germany. He also developed the means to create ammonia called the Haber-Bosch process, which allowed mass production of fertilizer, with an estimated 2/3s of all food being possible by food grown by the process and that food sustains about half the population. Half the human population probably doesn't exist today if not for him but he also knowingly and intentionally built arguably the most dangerous weapons in the world, especially at the time of their creation.
Fritz Haber was his name and worked with Carl Bosch to solve the issue of farms bot producing enough food for people (somewhere before and during the 2nd year of the war if im right) they both made a chemical that would boost the amount that could be done to feed the world but during the war he chose his country over everyone else because some reports said that Haber was emotionless when creating the poison gas used by all sides of the war and his wife and son had died which had probably made it worse on his mental health with what he created
That man fed billions with his invention but he also killed millions in a name of his country with another invention. A controversial figure to this day. I think that explains the conflicting feeling you got from this song!
As far as Sabaton songs that sound like this are concerned, I can only think of one other: Shadows. I highly recommend that song.
WW1 Soldier Wilfred Owen wrote a poem that some schools teach in literature class, about a gas attack he experienced. He died in the war on Nov. 4, 1918, just before the war ended.
Dulce et Decorum est
Bent double, like old beggars under sacks
Knock-kneed, coughing like hags, we cursed through sludge,
Till on the haunting flares we turned our backs,
And towards our distant rest began to trudge.
Men marched asleep. Many had lost their boots,
But limped on, blood-shod. All went lame, all blind;
Drunk with fatigue; deaf even to the hoots
Of gas-shells dropping softly behind.
Gas! GAS! Quick, boys!-An ecstasy of fumbling
Fitting the clumsy helmets just in time,
But someone still was yelling out and stumbling
And flound'ring like a man in fire or lime.-
Dim through the misty panes and thick green light,
As under a green sea, I saw him drowning.
In all my dreams before my helpless sight
He plunges at me, guttering, choking, drowning.
If in some smothering dreams, you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil's sick of sin,
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer,
Bitter[note 1] as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,-
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old Lie: Dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.[2]
It's also worth noting that the French in WW1 were actually the first ones to use chemical weapons, however Fritz Haber was the first person to invent deadly chemical weapons as the French only used things like tear gas.
It just adds to the moral conundrum that is this man.
This is probleby One of my favourite sabaton songs ❤
new album rummored in december :) something will come in december they stated in secred message:)
The "secret" is a trilogy of EPs which will be released in the coming weeks and months...
If I can explain it in the most basic way possible to help you out. There was a bit of a crop shortage around the time Fritz Haber was alive. He figured out a way to make a type of liquid hydrogen (Ammonia) to use as a sort of fertilizer for crops and save Billions of lives, but when WW1 started, Fritz Haber made Mustard Gas with the ammonia, which killed Millions.
Chemical weapons in the First World War were truly nightmares. You didn't just drop, it burned you off your bones. The air itself became caustic and the chemicals could seep into the soil making it burn flesh as well. Mustard gas was denser than air which made it sink and fill craters. Imagine diving for cover to get away from gunfire only to see a dull yellow cloud already fills the cover.
No, the creator of chemical gas in WW1 ALSO created a faster way to make Fertilizer. Hence the contradiction at the beginning, “Is he a sinner or saint?”
amonia are used in manufacturing amonium phosphate and ammonium nitrate among others, both extremely important fertilisers, then we have pesticides and herbicides also using chemicals and processes he invented. and sadly things like mustard gas.
Fritz Haber created artificial Ammonia which was used to make Mustard gas but is also used in fertilizer.
He invented a countermeasure for the most threatening illnesses that destroy crops thats why he got the nobel price
later he developped the gas for warfare
All I want is an album where Joakim sings like this the whole time 😭 they outdid themselves
The history behind this is very interesting.
There is a Veritasium video on Fritz Haber where it is amazingly described.
This one is really interesting to watch on sabaton history highly recommend you check it out and upload your reaction on yt. Much love!
I have synesthesia and this song causes two very different experiences at the same time. It very much emphasizes the difficulty of weighing pros vs cons of scientific advancement.
I’ve been waiting for your reaction
He invented ammonia based fertilizer to help with crop growth (preventing famines and such) when the war broke out he realized he could use it to make toxic gas heavier than air that would sink into the trenches (causing soldiers lungs to fill with bodily fluids causing them to drown in themselves) fritz haber is singlehandedly responsible for all of our lives today as half the population wouldn't exist without his process.
4:51 He ment that unknow solders were never found,they have few toombs In USA Europe,atill they didnt know but thats what i thing that i ment
Very gud song
Well one thing he’s a saint because someone took his chemicals and made it into toxic gas he didn’t do that but he fed people with what he made
I'm pretty sure Haber himself reverse engineered his own invention
It's like once you hear it your addicted to it 🚨🚨😶
He created chlorine and mustard gas both was used on Russian,Belgium,British troops by the end of 1925 it was banned from warfare deemed inhumane to use chemical weapons but the British used mustard gas against the germans also during 1917 the true purpose to use chemical weapons was to break the stalemate on the western front
Another interesting if sad fact, upon returning home from deploying the gas for the first time he discovered his wife had killed herself. Her body unfortunately discovered by their son first.
Heard this song like 10x
To learn more listen to sabaton history of this song
He was helping the world but in war he helps his people
Just to show how beneficial haber actually was: it is estimated that 50 percent of the nitrogen atoms in modern humans come from the process that he discovered
one can say it's complicated
Have the US Army chemical corps crest tattooed on my bicep. On the top left a dragon representing the chemical warfare. On the bottom right a tree stump representing the only thing left after a chemical attack, death.
No, the chemical warfare did not allow crops to grow. But his work with fertilizer did....
Thanks for another great reaction! This surely was heavy in a different way. Doomsday.
Bro I love the videos and I love your content but I hate to be that one but bro the moment the song starts your already giving us a review or something on the music but hey DONT GET ME WRONG I love your content and I love the hard work you did it just caught me off guard but besides that I’ll still give you a like cause I appreciate your work 🙂
Since its October and if you haven't already, can you do "the merkins" parody song with ghostface "i just called to say I'll kill you"?? What a song, What a voice!!
check out the sabaton history episode for this song explains it well
Damn dude, you'd make a good voice actor
if you want to learn more about the songs you listen to. you should watch sabaton history it will tell you a lot about it
Great reaction. Being Halloween is coming up could you please have a listen/react to Helloween's song- Halloween. Lyric version? I think it's time..;)
4:52 no chemical warfare was done on purpose. thats why it is a warcrime
Fritz haber was his name Bosch was a ally
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4:51 I thought he said "unknowing soldiers"?
Fun fact that isn't fun at all : Chemical weapon were already banished during WW1 and when the Germans were called out for using them, they defend themselves saying that it was not a "weapon" cause the gas wasn't used with mortar shells or anything. They were just carboy full of gas they oppened in the wind...
The gas did not grow crops he invented a type ammonia witch could be used to grow crops but he invented gas for the war
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You sound confused about the subject
Just figuring it out as I go along homie. I understand it all now haha.