24:40 I agree with TJ. It’s the climate and density of air, and the impact of it has been magnified over the past decade as hitter launch angles have changed; T-Mobile is gobbling up more fly balls
MLB executives polled on Soto contract back on June 11th according to Forbes, “The average of all projections was $482.5 million over 11.6 years and, with the highest and lowest outliers removed, it was $498.4 million over 12.4 years with a $40.4 million AAV. The highest proportion of panelists, 14 total, indicated that Soto would land a deal in the $500 million to $599 million tier.”
Do the park factors take into consideration the offensive stats at the stadium? Every game at T-Mobile features this historically bad offense versus teams that have to face our great pitching. Makes sense that the offensive stats would be super low
I feel Juan soto is going to do the same thing Aaron Judge did. Use other teams to bring up the price so the Yankees can pay him...I believe he has no intentions of leaving the Yankees... what other player can give him the protection like Aaron Judge can...Othani is the only guy.... and giving him 700 million is insane...not wrong it
I think having a manager that dynamically changes how the offense sets out for home games would be much more effective. Knowing your own park and working to its strengths should be something you naturally do. Especially early in the season when the air is wetter and colder, they really should be playing small ball and cutting down exit velocity to make better contact, getting the ball in play and not rolling over so much over-exaggerating their pull. As an aside, the wind I think generally crosses over to the further parts of the park, but it'd be interesting if they created glass walls in the stadium to cut that cross-wind a bit. But agreed, when you strikeout so much, it doesn't seem to matter. But I think that's sort of on poor coaching/hitting analytics having them choose to over-swing (Julio and Cal most notably) when the higher probability of number of balls in play will likely serve them better than probability of harder hit balls. I feel their best realistic chance to get Soto here was to have traded for him this past off-season. It would've been worth it to lose the prospects. It feels the perception of Seattle in baseball is very much outside the realm of reality, but the stigma persists and it takes people to play here to fall in love with the place, which most generally do save for maybe some of the people exposed to our most recent rash of fans. But I'd go for Christian Walker and Bregman this off-season. Whoever is still against acquiring those Astros probably doesn't matter at this point.
Lyle, why would you put a roof on a stadium with San Diego’s weather 😭 Only 4 rain outs in petco park history since 2004! This stadium can do without the roof 😉
Speaking on dodger dogs, they used to be good back in the day when they had the contract with farmer John. I just had one recently and it was straight ass for $8
The park is such an excuse. The actual fact is the bats have stunk over the years. I'm not even sure the batters eye is an excuse because I looked up a lot of players this year and some are even better playing at T-Mobile. Haniger for instance when I looked him up has a .750+ home OPS and around .460 road OPS. Back in 2001 way before the walls were moved in they were ranked 18th in the league in home runs but they were #1 in runs scored. Those were teams with players that actually knew the art of hitting and manufacture runs. Moving in the fences won't help these players who put in terrible AB's.
I see where lyle is coming from with the bryan woo over castillo in a game 3 but id probably use miller and woo as your 4th starter and let them piggy back off each other. Start woo for 3 or 4 and let miller come in for 3 or 4 however the game plays out. Hot damn this rotation lol. Just need the offense to keep putting the ball in play and making shit happen. Really really hope both mitch's can pick it up down the stretch. Just need them to be good at what theyve been good at their whole career and this team has a shot! And polanco keeping it going and staying healthy. Jp and julio need to come back with a vengence.
TJ there's no way Robles is getting dropped to the 5 spot if he's hitting anywhere close to they way he is right now. That would be ignorant honestly. Robles sets the table, he's hitting for power, and is a much better baserunner than JP. Right now Robles and JP are on different planets with the way their playing.
Mariners didn’t even try getting Ohtani and he’s a two way player, so there’s literally 0% chance that would ever happen, and I don’t even think they should. We need to fix a lot of things on our roster before even considering putting that much money into one player.
The league never was so lopsided in offense. The Yankees are the best offense in baseball, we're #20. If we had Soto and they didn't we'd be Top 10, tied with Philly, while the Yankees would drop into the teens. A player like Soto has never mattered so much. A year ago I wouldn't have signed Soto, but the game has changed. We'd lead MLB in wins if we had Soto's bat. That's not an exaggeration.
As for Soto, no they won't and they absolutely shouldn't. That bidding war is going to be insane and with the payroll restrictions, the M's simply aren't in a reasonable position to pour all the resources into one player like that. We have a lot of young, elite talent we should work on locking up, along with finding a solid solution at 1B and RF (even if that is Robles, it will cost a bit to entice him to stay). I would much prefer to go really big at 1B with Goldschmidt, Alonso or Walker and then supplement the OF with a left handed bat like Bellinger, Verdugo, Santander, Conforto or Kepler.
Yeah whichever team is dumb enough to spend the money that soto is gonna want since he's young, more power to them. They'll be paying for his bat since his defense is below avg and it's just not worth putting all that money into one player, ruins the rest of the roster construction. Only player who'd actually make you enough money back for it to be worth is Ohtani, and even he deferred 98% of the contract so the team could still build around him. Is Soto as selfless as that? I doubt it.
Stop it guys ya can't act like it's possible to get Juan Soto to a fanbase get them all excited and hopeful and then when they get a mitch Garver type and things go terrible be surprised when fans don't know where to place their anger
Nah mariners should NOT go after Soto. Only team who should be going after soto is one who already have an elite roster and just need soto to round things out. Besides that it'd be dumb for teams to spend the money that soto is gonna want since he's young. They'll be paying for just hisbat since his defense is below avg and it's just not worth putting all that money into one player, ruins the rest of the roster construction. Only player who'd actually make you enough money back for it to be worth is Ohtani, and even he deferred 98% of the contract so the team could still build around him. Is Soto as selfless as that? I doubt it.
Soto loves playing woth the yankees he will re sign with them. He will test fa but ultimately it will come down to the yankees giants and probably someone not the mariners
I agree with @alphabet5408 guy. If we’re talking actual dollars and cents to aquire Juan Soto. Stanton and 54 % Jerry are out. The philosophy for Mariners Inc. is dream big but buy small. Very Small 📊
24:40 I agree with TJ. It’s the climate and density of air, and the impact of it has been magnified over the past decade as hitter launch angles have changed; T-Mobile is gobbling up more fly balls
Murakami would be a perfect fit left handed power hitting 3rd baseman
We'd be down!
Love the content! It's super funny about Woo's discussion after today lol
MLB executives polled on Soto contract back on June 11th according to Forbes, “The average of all projections was $482.5 million over 11.6 years and, with the highest and lowest outliers removed, it was $498.4 million over 12.4 years with a $40.4 million AAV. The highest proportion of panelists, 14 total, indicated that Soto would land a deal in the $500 million to $599 million tier.”
JP is not a leadoff hitter. Was just the best they had. No chance on Soto. May try to get Murakami though
Lyle has good takes on Woo. Especially after the Phillies game just now
Once Woo develops secondary pitches, he can become the ace of the staff
Do the park factors take into consideration the offensive stats at the stadium? Every game at T-Mobile features this historically bad offense versus teams that have to face our great pitching. Makes sense that the offensive stats would be super low
Good show today fellas!!! Also thanks for the laugh at the end, gotta love New York media.
Thanks Mitchell!
I feel Juan soto is going to do the same thing Aaron Judge did. Use other teams to bring up the price so the Yankees can pay him...I believe he has no intentions of leaving the Yankees... what other player can give him the protection like Aaron Judge can...Othani is the only guy.... and giving him 700 million is insane...not wrong it
I think having a manager that dynamically changes how the offense sets out for home games would be much more effective. Knowing your own park and working to its strengths should be something you naturally do. Especially early in the season when the air is wetter and colder, they really should be playing small ball and cutting down exit velocity to make better contact, getting the ball in play and not rolling over so much over-exaggerating their pull. As an aside, the wind I think generally crosses over to the further parts of the park, but it'd be interesting if they created glass walls in the stadium to cut that cross-wind a bit.
But agreed, when you strikeout so much, it doesn't seem to matter. But I think that's sort of on poor coaching/hitting analytics having them choose to over-swing (Julio and Cal most notably) when the higher probability of number of balls in play will likely serve them better than probability of harder hit balls.
I feel their best realistic chance to get Soto here was to have traded for him this past off-season. It would've been worth it to lose the prospects. It feels the perception of Seattle in baseball is very much outside the realm of reality, but the stigma persists and it takes people to play here to fall in love with the place, which most generally do save for maybe some of the people exposed to our most recent rash of fans. But I'd go for Christian Walker and Bregman this off-season. Whoever is still against acquiring those Astros probably doesn't matter at this point.
Close the freaking roof until July
Lyle, why would you put a roof on a stadium with San Diego’s weather 😭 Only 4 rain outs in petco park history since 2004! This stadium can do without the roof 😉
Speaking on dodger dogs, they used to be good back in the day when they had the contract with farmer John. I just had one recently and it was straight ass for $8
You two are funny! You should be comedians!
The park is such an excuse. The actual fact is the bats have stunk over the years. I'm not even sure the batters eye is an excuse because I looked up a lot of players this year and some are even better playing at T-Mobile. Haniger for instance when I looked him up has a .750+ home OPS and around .460 road OPS. Back in 2001 way before the walls were moved in they were ranked 18th in the league in home runs but they were #1 in runs scored. Those were teams with players that actually knew the art of hitting and manufacture runs. Moving in the fences won't help these players who put in terrible AB's.
Miller fills the Matt Brash fireman role?
I want Juan Soto will sign San Diego PADRES in 2025
Please PADRES it time to Bring back 1998 PADRES Blue Jersey And 1991 Navy Hat in 2025 Now
And change the batters eye
The 2001 team did not have any problems hitting at home. Just need better players
I see where lyle is coming from with the bryan woo over castillo in a game 3 but id probably use miller and woo as your 4th starter and let them piggy back off each other. Start woo for 3 or 4 and let miller come in for 3 or 4 however the game plays out. Hot damn this rotation lol. Just need the offense to keep putting the ball in play and making shit happen. Really really hope both mitch's can pick it up down the stretch. Just need them to be good at what theyve been good at their whole career and this team has a shot! And polanco keeping it going and staying healthy. Jp and julio need to come back with a vengence.
TJ there's no way Robles is getting dropped to the 5 spot if he's hitting anywhere close to they way he is right now. That would be ignorant honestly. Robles sets the table, he's hitting for power, and is a much better baserunner than JP. Right now Robles and JP are on different planets with the way their playing.
Yeah fucking right
Mariners didn’t even try getting Ohtani and he’s a two way player, so there’s literally 0% chance that would ever happen, and I don’t even think they should. We need to fix a lot of things on our roster before even considering putting that much money into one player.
The league never was so lopsided in offense. The Yankees are the best offense in baseball, we're #20. If we had Soto and they didn't we'd be Top 10, tied with Philly, while the Yankees would drop into the teens. A player like Soto has never mattered so much. A year ago I wouldn't have signed Soto, but the game has changed. We'd lead MLB in wins if we had Soto's bat. That's not an exaggeration.
I know the title is clickbait but i'll bite anyway with a simple Mariners free agent process flow:
Does Soto cost money? If yes, he is not a Mariner.
Concur
As for Soto, no they won't and they absolutely shouldn't. That bidding war is going to be insane and with the payroll restrictions, the M's simply aren't in a reasonable position to pour all the resources into one player like that. We have a lot of young, elite talent we should work on locking up, along with finding a solid solution at 1B and RF (even if that is Robles, it will cost a bit to entice him to stay).
I would much prefer to go really big at 1B with Goldschmidt, Alonso or Walker and then supplement the OF with a left handed bat like Bellinger, Verdugo, Santander, Conforto or Kepler.
Yeah whichever team is dumb enough to spend the money that soto is gonna want since he's young, more power to them. They'll be paying for his bat since his defense is below avg and it's just not worth putting all that money into one player, ruins the rest of the roster construction. Only player who'd actually make you enough money back for it to be worth is Ohtani, and even he deferred 98% of the contract so the team could still build around him. Is Soto as selfless as that? I doubt it.
0 chance JP bats leadoff unless Robles falls off, even Randy is more of a leadoff hitter than JP. JP is dog shit this year
Stop it guys ya can't act like it's possible to get Juan Soto to a fanbase get them all excited and hopeful and then when they get a mitch Garver type and things go terrible be surprised when fans don't know where to place their anger
Juanderful.....
No. lol
Regarding the title, no
Nah mariners should NOT go after Soto. Only team who should be going after soto is one who already have an elite roster and just need soto to round things out. Besides that it'd be dumb for teams to spend the money that soto is gonna want since he's young. They'll be paying for just hisbat since his defense is below avg and it's just not worth putting all that money into one player, ruins the rest of the roster construction. Only player who'd actually make you enough money back for it to be worth is Ohtani, and even he deferred 98% of the contract so the team could still build around him. Is Soto as selfless as that? I doubt it.
Soto loves playing woth the yankees he will re sign with them. He will test fa but ultimately it will come down to the yankees giants and probably someone not the mariners
Why are you guys STILL doing this? lmao
No.
I agree with @alphabet5408 guy. If we’re talking actual dollars and cents to aquire Juan Soto. Stanton and 54 % Jerry are out. The philosophy for Mariners Inc. is dream big but buy small. Very Small 📊