Shahbaz Ansar on being an Indian Atheist

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  • Опубликовано: 26 авг 2024
  • In this episode, we talk to journalist Shahbaz Ansar about what it's like to be an atheist with a Muslim name in India. I'm guessing it's definitely harder than being a "Hindu Atheist". Support this channel at vimoh.stck.me
    #IndianAtheist #ShahbazAnsar

Комментарии • 219

  • @AamirAliyoutube
    @AamirAliyoutube 2 года назад +108

    In short:
    I've a great care and love for my elder sister, this is how i saw and realize how my sister lacks alot of opportunity and status because of her gender.
    I became feminist, being a feminist i started being an apologist Muslim, spinning Quran and hadith in order to align it my religion. But this didn't ripe well, eventually i realized I was just lying to myself only, I started looking into religion more deeper from sociological pov to scientific. And gradually my faith started to diminish which was obviously inevitable.
    This is how i left my religion.

    • @sai_69
      @sai_69 2 года назад +3

      Thanks

    • @AamirAliyoutube
      @AamirAliyoutube 2 года назад +1

      @@sai_69 why thanks?

    • @shubhounofficial5125
      @shubhounofficial5125 2 года назад +12

      Thanks for standing up for women. Thanks for being open minded.

    • @samratsinghsingh3891
      @samratsinghsingh3891 2 года назад +7

      दुनिया के सारे धर्म ऐसे ही है भाई

    • @AnkitYadav-rb7jn
      @AnkitYadav-rb7jn 2 года назад +3

      @@shubhounofficial5125 exactly

  • @mustafaahmed41
    @mustafaahmed41 2 года назад +151

    The most important point government should recognise that there can be people with no religion

    • @ex.hindu.now.atheist
      @ex.hindu.now.atheist Год назад +12

      @Mustafa Ahmed
      Unfortunately, in deeply religious countries-i.e. in deeply superstitious countries-such as India, atheism and irreligious (and also non so-called Dharmic) tendencies are considered to be frames of mind that do not deserve recognition.

    • @arjunrajendran4826
      @arjunrajendran4826 11 месяцев назад +3

      Our Constitution has already recognised it and made it a fundamental right for every citizen.

    • @harsh9023
      @harsh9023 8 месяцев назад

      No the most important point is there should be separation of church and state. Throw out religion out of govt and policy making.

    • @RR_theproahole
      @RR_theproahole 8 месяцев назад

      @@harsh9023 there is a separation of religion and state in India, it's not legal to use religion in elections but since sabki roti dharm ko ghaseetkar hi chalti hai no political party is ready to apply it strictly.

    • @mirarif-f7p
      @mirarif-f7p 4 месяца назад

      @@RR_theproahole absolutely bro

  • @sadiqakhan277
    @sadiqakhan277 Год назад +46

    Its easy for men to openly declare themselves as atheist .. as a housewife .. who was very religious ( in the real sense )its impossible to lead a normal life minus religion ..youngsters can go astray but a grown up .. no way . Would love to be part of some organization where i can meet or at least talk to like minded people .

    • @ex.hindu.now.atheist
      @ex.hindu.now.atheist Год назад +7

      @Sadiqa khan
      I presume that you are from India.
      Unfortunately, atheism is considered unacceptable in deeply religious countries (i.e. deeply superstitious countries) such as India.
      There are Hindus (i.e. so-called Sanatana Dharmists) who claim that Hinduism allows atheism-in order to claim that their religion (so-called dharmic system of beliefs) is more magnanimous than other religions, especially Islam and Christianity.
      Such persons are blissfully ignorant of what Krishna says in the Bhagavad Gita (especially in Chapter 7), about persons who do not surrender to him (i.e. to the Hindu god).
      By definition, atheists would be a component of the set of persons who do not surrender to Krishna, because atheists do not even believe that any god exists.

    • @mustafhanawab
      @mustafhanawab Год назад +1

      Did you find any organisation or platform?? Please tell me, I need that too

    • @sadiqakhan277
      @sadiqakhan277 Год назад

      @@mustafhanawab not yet ..I am thinking of starting one online provided i meet like minded people .

    • @mustafhanawab
      @mustafhanawab Год назад

      @@sadiqakhan277 do reply here if you do so or let me know if I can contribute in this venture

    • @ex.hindu.now.atheist
      @ex.hindu.now.atheist Год назад

      @@sadiqakhan277
      Hi. Is there any update regarding your plans to start an organisation or Online community of atheists ?

  • @zeyguardianindianhaywaan3210
    @zeyguardianindianhaywaan3210 Год назад +45

    I'm an Exmuslim Atheist 😏🗿
    Jai Hind ❤
    Insaaniyat Zindabad 💛
    Hail Atheism ⚛
    Science Haafiz 📚 🔬 🔭
    Inquilab Zindabad 💪 🔥

    • @ex.hindu.now.atheist
      @ex.hindu.now.atheist Год назад +5

      @Zeyguardian: Indian Haywaan
      Keep it up. 👍👍

    • @ayushchougula
      @ayushchougula Год назад +4

      truly bro it feels good when Islamic people realise truth rather than living a lie

    • @motherisape
      @motherisape 10 месяцев назад +2

      Chill

  • @vaishs385
    @vaishs385 2 года назад +18

    1hr felt like 15 mins. Need more videos like this. I enjoyed a lot. Yes we need a community for sure.

  • @RiaFernandes89
    @RiaFernandes89 2 года назад +26

    What a great session! I could relate to most of the things discussed here. Especially when Vimoh spoke about having an option for non-religious people in Census - which is what has been on my mind for quite sometime now. I want my option on being an atheist be seperately recognised. I also feel that religion option should accounted for every individual in a family. Like Shahbaz, even i feel that atheist need to be organised and I agree with his reasoning on why that needs to happen. Thanks for such an insightful discussion.

    • @cosmicconstellations511
      @cosmicconstellations511 2 года назад +1

      In India, the number of atheists are grossly under-reported. Totally agree with all your points. People in India are not open to atheism. Minorities are recognised but not atheists :|
      Religious minorities are provided reservation but not atheists. Either give reservation to atheists or don't give reservation to religious minorities.
      Note: I don't have anything against reservations to PWD (people with disabilities).

  • @yashkumarjha5082
    @yashkumarjha5082 2 года назад +19

    This stream is really great vimoh, keep producing such streams

  • @sauravroychow
    @sauravroychow 10 месяцев назад +7

    What a wonderful person Shahbaz is. It just shows that atheists believe in humanity, common sense, love, well being of others and do not discriminate based on caste or religion, which are the two most polarizing factors in our country and also the world today.

  • @nadircazi147
    @nadircazi147 2 года назад +7

    The Live has shaped up really well. The structure, and the quality of the conversations is top-notch

  • @nio3323
    @nio3323 2 года назад +8

    आप लोग बहुत अच्छा काम कर रहे हैं। ऐसे ही लोगो को जागरूक करते रहे।

  • @Fitman2004
    @Fitman2004 2 года назад +20

    I'm from kerala. Here, we have many very strong atheist organisations like Essense Global, who have been conducting seminars, debates and conversations for decades as early as in the beginning of 20th centuary. Anyone know Ex-muslims of Kerala? Many freethinkers like Arif hussain, Liyakkathali CM, E A Jabbar, Ravichandran C etc are doing unthinkable contribution.

    • @white_skinned_bitch
      @white_skinned_bitch Год назад +3

      Need to do that in West Bengal!

    • @mrmingsun
      @mrmingsun Год назад

      I think you mean Ayoob PM not Ravichankar C.

    • @Faizalrafi-hx5rh
      @Faizalrafi-hx5rh 28 дней назад

      EA jabbar, Liyakat Ali along with people like C Viswanathan would be the people I would mention. On the other hand Ravichandran C is a dishonest sanghi stooge.

  • @tahirhasan8924
    @tahirhasan8924 5 месяцев назад +5

    नास्तिकता डर से नहीं आती
    बल्कि नास्तिकता बहुत ज्ञान
    अध्ययन करने से आती है

    • @Revolutionary1080
      @Revolutionary1080 4 месяца назад +1

      Chup

    • @kun78195
      @kun78195 4 месяца назад +1

      @@Revolutionary1080 kya huwa andhvishwaasi jall gyi kya

  • @zaidshaikh1855
    @zaidshaikh1855 Год назад +10

    Atheism is liberating. Changed my life.

    • @rawasbhai123
      @rawasbhai123 Год назад +2

      I think ypu should study atheism in deeep then u realise that what they beleive is nothingness create something😂😂

    • @alanjohn2675
      @alanjohn2675 Год назад +7

      @@rawasbhai123 🤦

    • @Revolutionary1080
      @Revolutionary1080 4 месяца назад +1

      Hmm suar sanp genda kya skte ho

    • @chaitanyagore1112
      @chaitanyagore1112 4 месяца назад

      ​@@rawasbhai123 wow! I didn't knew that😮
      I believe in Flying spaghetti monster ❤

  • @horizonwalker1100
    @horizonwalker1100 2 года назад +10

    Very nice stream. Love both you guys. 🥰

  • @MegaKabir
    @MegaKabir 4 месяца назад +3

    I too want a room as simple as vimoh…a bed, two book shelf with full of books and a study table. Thats it.

  • @kawishraza7192
    @kawishraza7192 5 месяцев назад +7

    30:04... Vimoh used "hey bhagwan" 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @DobyTheElf
      @DobyTheElf 4 месяца назад +3

      Sar tann se juda krdo iska ab 😂

    • @user-ji6ku2wc5y
      @user-ji6ku2wc5y Месяц назад +1

      😂 😂😂😂 this is show his upbringing
      And your are kattar atheist😂

    • @kawishraza7192
      @kawishraza7192 Месяц назад +1

      @@DobyTheElf ni bhai mai bhi atheist hu😂

    • @kawishraza7192
      @kawishraza7192 Месяц назад +1

      @@user-ji6ku2wc5y samjh ni aaya bhai

    • @user-ji6ku2wc5y
      @user-ji6ku2wc5y Месяц назад +1

      @@kawishraza7192 bachpan se hay bhagwan bolne ki aadat lag jaati h

  • @brahm-ahamasmi
    @brahm-ahamasmi 2 года назад +8

    Jawaharlal Nehru was openly atheist

  • @Dote19
    @Dote19 4 месяца назад +2

    Great conversation on a very crucial topic. ❤

  • @AD_mallick
    @AD_mallick 2 года назад +7

    I know shahbaz ansar
    Shabaz is from bihar
    My village and shabaz village are same.i know everything

  • @Subh8081
    @Subh8081 Год назад +5

    It is important that Government adds "no religion" as an option for surveys and forms. There are many more atheists than officially recognized in India. A petition should be sent to GOI. On the flip side, when atheism grows somehow media will discuss "atheism jihad" in prime time and even Muslims and Christians will agree.

  • @priyanshagarwal7393
    @priyanshagarwal7393 2 года назад +10

    This guy is brave!

  • @skepticsagar694
    @skepticsagar694 2 месяца назад +2

    Im atheist since 1990 when i was no aware whether any atheist exist on earth or not, even i was not knowing the term "atheism". I becam atheist on my own. I came yo know about others atheis like Richard Dawkins, Hichens, Sam Harris, Daniel Daniette, etc in 2011 onwards.

  • @nio3323
    @nio3323 2 года назад +7

    आने वाली जेनरेशन के लिए आप लोग बहुत अच्छा काम कर रहे हैं। लोगो को अन्धविश्वास के बारे में बता रहे हैं।

  • @infinity70455
    @infinity70455 Месяц назад +1

    1:03 start

  • @Unknown-hi2dr
    @Unknown-hi2dr 2 года назад +7

    Deepika Padukone example was hilarious 😂 I'm gonna use this argument next time when I talk to theists about "god" 😂

  • @thetuningpoint1600
    @thetuningpoint1600 Год назад +11

    I am Athesit with muslim name totally can relate this.

    • @xboobgenius
      @xboobgenius 8 месяцев назад +1

      haha samee

    • @Revolutionary1080
      @Revolutionary1080 4 месяца назад +1

      Hmm iski biwi rndi hai aur relate kr pa rha hoga 😂

    • @xboobgenius
      @xboobgenius 4 месяца назад

      @@Revolutionary1080 how disgusting are you, you’re calling another woman a misogynistic slur while being a woman? DISGUSTING.

  • @targaryenXoolf
    @targaryenXoolf 11 месяцев назад +5

    As an atheist who is constantly mocked, I someday wish India will be free of religion. total eradication of religion, and complete separation of religion and government.

    • @SubrataRabidas123
      @SubrataRabidas123 День назад +1

      But you can't do this 😂😂 and if people believe in there religion it is not a problem you atheist believe it is a problem 😂 .

  • @Mukesh-oq8dx
    @Mukesh-oq8dx 6 месяцев назад +1

    @38:09 I totally agree with what Shahbaz. In my understanding, he is not against "banning of hijab" but he is against the gov's "Intention" behind banning of hijab.

  • @jaswindersinghnarula4379
    @jaswindersinghnarula4379 Год назад +2

    I named my son "Sahir" because I really like Sahir Ludhianvi's songs and some people were not comfortable with it. Now when the Letter "S" came up for name in religious name giving ceremony then all were ok with it, LOL! People think of language in religious terms and that has to be changed.

  • @skepticsagar694
    @skepticsagar694 2 месяца назад +1

    I personally have to hide my atheism position from my family, friends, neighbours, colleages at my worplace, etc.... Very hard to be open about atheism without its negative consequences on me from society...

  • @nio3323
    @nio3323 2 года назад +3

    आप लोगो से बहुत कुछ सीखने को मिलता है।

  • @user-fs7we1gq8q
    @user-fs7we1gq8q 9 месяцев назад +4

    Absence of evidence is not evidence of abscence. God is not a bacteria which can be proved on the slide of a microscope or a distant galaxy which can be seen from any sophisticated telescope. Its beyond the comprehension of human mind. Dont we all agree that this perfect universe did not came into existence of its own without any proper planning? Had that been the case, we would see flaws in it. Who created these fundamental particles, forces, fields? So, there is a creator. How do we deal with these questions? It is something, right?

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  9 месяцев назад +1

      You're assuming a "who". There is no reason to think so.

    • @thanveermohammed1997
      @thanveermohammed1997 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@vimohlive You say that you have reference for the Designing or production of Mobile phone in one of your Reels . Then May I ask What's your reference for some Object which was Not created or produced by somebody ? Something which Happened by Itself

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  8 месяцев назад

      @@thanveermohammed1997 A rock?

    • @Sanmoh_yt
      @Sanmoh_yt 7 месяцев назад

      ​@@thanveermohammed1997 hey bro don't you think by your logic there has to be something which created god himself then some other god who created them and this cycle would be endless and if you think that god was always there can't it be that the universe was always there and there was no god?

    • @skepticsagar694
      @skepticsagar694 2 месяца назад +1

      Absence of evidence is in no way evidence of presence of whatever you make up. If God is beyond human comprehension then why are you introducing g-o-d in the equation. Why you insert God as a fill in the blanks (gaps if knowledge).

  • @ex.hindu.now.atheist
    @ex.hindu.now.atheist Год назад +12

    I disagree with Vimoh's claim at 22:21 that atheists in India are not persecuted.
    Even though there is no explicit persecution of atheists in India (yet), that is perhaps mainly because atheists in India have been silent by and large-at least in the last few centuries.
    If atheists in India try to run a TV show such as 'The Atheist Experience', that is when the true colours of the theists of India will come out in the open.

    • @mustafhanawab
      @mustafhanawab Год назад +7

      Completely agree... As soon as I start challenging the norms in my community they start to corner me.

    • @white_skinned_bitch
      @white_skinned_bitch Год назад

      Beta, koi kuchh kahe toh use Mera address deke mere paas aane ko bolna, k@@t keh r@kh denge! Koi bhi astik ko.

    • @ex.hindu.now.atheist
      @ex.hindu.now.atheist Год назад +5

      @@mustafhanawab
      To some extent, I can empathise with your unpleasant experience.
      In my case, a few of my Hindu (so-called Sanatana Dharmist) friends and acquaintances have stopped interacting with me-some have even claimed that I am actually an anti-Hindu Christian or Muslim who is pretending to be an atheist 😂😂.
      My family members have not made an issue out of it, though.

    • @balajiraju4157
      @balajiraju4157 Год назад

      @@ex.hindu.now.atheist bcoz atheist mock their religion

    • @thehindu7438
      @thehindu7438 Год назад +2

      @@ex.hindu.now.atheist bro, you're Everywhere in Anti-hindu content 😭
      I even saw you spamming 😭

  • @piyushshah1720
    @piyushshah1720 2 года назад +2

    Thankks to Vimoh, we got to know, Shahbaz is so cute 😛

  • @amitkolhe4155
    @amitkolhe4155 Год назад +2

    Awesome video Vimoh & Shahbaz. Keep up the Good work !

  • @Alex-oz5kn
    @Alex-oz5kn 2 года назад +15

    I am an ex-hindu athiest. In 12:40 he says that Hindu radicals say that when you become majority you will capture our land. This is mainly because of of the dar al-islam, dar al-sulh, dar al-harb concept in islam. Also mainly people have come to know that there is a concept of al-taqqiya in islam. I read many hindu and islamic texts before becoming an athiest.

    • @AgnosticSage
      @AgnosticSage 2 года назад +13

      Bhai maximum Indian muslims ko
      Halaala , 9 yr marriage , blasphemy law - stoning to death etc etc ka pata bhi nhi hai
      They are just muslims because they are born in a muslim family

    • @AgnosticSage
      @AgnosticSage 2 года назад +5

      @Name hmm , even I being from a syed religious family (now exmuslim)
      never heard of "ghazwa e hind" until I saw sacred games .... 😂

    • @sadiqakhan277
      @sadiqakhan277 Год назад

      @@AnarchistDoc 😆😆true .

    • @booksanimeenthusiast3802
      @booksanimeenthusiast3802 Год назад

      If you read Qur'an then you know Al taqiyaa is Shia concept not Sunnis.

    • @worldwithsana
      @worldwithsana 7 месяцев назад

      @@AgnosticSage hn bhai shi keh rha hai tu abe c mai muslim hon to kia mai kuch nhi janta tere hisaab se islamic scholar ho

  • @rifatjahan60
    @rifatjahan60 7 месяцев назад +2

    Lol me too i am an atheist ⚛️ with a Muslim name....well from childhood i just follow the things i think its good but some months ago i beocome a kattar and my mind wasn't at peace at all then I decided to look into another religion but realised how i am just pushing myself into lies and decided not to follow any religion and became atheist.....and i know it maybe won't possible for me to come out as an atheist as my mom will be disappointed...... being atheist doesn't mean denying everything about religion but being open-minded and have enough courage to think rationally

  • @anishsharma6150
    @anishsharma6150 2 года назад +2

    What a conversation!🙏

  • @brahm-ahamasmi
    @brahm-ahamasmi 2 года назад +9

    Kejriwal was openly Atheist. As soon as he came into politics, he started talking about "having faith". With "Muslim appeasement" seemingly hurting and BJP's effective polarization, "Jai Hanuman" had to be adopted.

    • @YashMezzala
      @YashMezzala 2 года назад

      Now he's a Hindu. Overton window is shifted right wards now

    • @abhishekmhatre1554
      @abhishekmhatre1554 Год назад +2

      I wouldn't say he was an atheist, perhaps he was a spiritual person.
      "I am neither a believer in God nor an atheist... Being a logical person, I am a firm believer in karma... As a ritual, I meditate almost daily and sometimes even between work..." - Arvind Kejriwal, 2006, Times of India

    • @matvimat
      @matvimat 11 месяцев назад

      If what you folks are saying is true, then he is highly likely Agnostic. He practices Vipassana meditation, which has nothing to do with spirituality.

  • @phantombrain
    @phantombrain Год назад +1

    Indoctrination is the main issue, which unintentionally was shown in the Malayalam film, Guru. The film actually gives the opposite message but we agnostic atheists/atheists will see through that and get the unintentional message.

  • @Where_is_My_Peace
    @Where_is_My_Peace 11 месяцев назад +3

    Watching this video late but vimoh did you find such comunity like that?

  • @empavon6819
    @empavon6819 Год назад +1

    His explanation technique is much better than u vimoh😁 . Please do more streams with Shahbaz, it's amazing, I enjoyed this conversation.
    He is correct 💯 we humans are social animal so we need community to live with. We should turn our society towords scientific community I think it will be an option for community 💫

  • @preetraj9831
    @preetraj9831 2 года назад +3

    Very interesting stream.

  • @YouTube4-U
    @YouTube4-U 5 месяцев назад +2

    I am ex Muslim agnostic atheist 😅

  • @MohitKumar-nx1zt
    @MohitKumar-nx1zt Год назад +1

    A great conversation
    Can relate to some experiences 😂
    and some strong arguments against religion

  • @nikhilmodak214
    @nikhilmodak214 10 месяцев назад +1

    It is interesting to see someone muslim to come out and dare to say he's an atheist.
    1. In islam the murtad (an atheist) is brutally treated and I know quite a few atheist muslims which do not come out, remain under disguise or fly out of India.
    2. If someone is believes that an atheist in islam is a disguise for one reason mentioned above and the other reason is al-taqiya, whicj clearly allows a disguise in the dar ul haram if the conditions are not favourable.
    Kudos to the this person whos courageous to come out.

  • @Youtube_Idee
    @Youtube_Idee 6 месяцев назад +2

    Just to clarify your some of the claims here are wrong itself. First of all Qur'an is not same everywhere, copy of Sana Qur'an (Discovered 1970's) proves that.
    There's no history of Prophet Muhammad outside Islamic world.

  • @AtheistBullRun
    @AtheistBullRun 2 года назад +2

    Shwethab Gangwar and prakhar Gupta k saath b ek podcast karro bhai 🤙

  • @nio3323
    @nio3323 2 года назад +2

    बहुत अच्छी स्ट्रीम

  • @sahebmolla659
    @sahebmolla659 10 месяцев назад +2

    We need a organization. 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

  • @lazycoder5872
    @lazycoder5872 2 месяца назад

    Print me koi repoter tha jo baba ramdev ka interview liya tha patanjali jeans ka, naam yad nhi tha - "searched on RUclips" now when i came to know that shbaz also an atheist, proud of you shbaz bhai, esehi karwa brte rhe❤

  • @ashutoshjaiswal0603
    @ashutoshjaiswal0603 2 года назад +8

    I m also from Patna

  • @user-ji6ku2wc5y
    @user-ji6ku2wc5y Месяц назад

    I also contribute this community

  • @sourabhmookherjee4218
    @sourabhmookherjee4218 6 месяцев назад +1

    Also Hitler was influenced by Hindduism, especially the Theosophical variety.

  • @manoharganeshan9557
    @manoharganeshan9557 6 месяцев назад

    bhai mei 2 year se qthiest hu....jis din past mei jaane wali machine bnn jye bss os din sb clear ho jayega

  • @user-ji6ku2wc5y
    @user-ji6ku2wc5y 2 месяца назад

    Atheist community, please start

  • @user-ji6ku2wc5y
    @user-ji6ku2wc5y Месяц назад

    I think atheist and naastik ,word is reason behind people understand our intention wrong. We are the people who want universal harmony and peace
    We have to invent a word that clear our intentions

  • @phantombrain
    @phantombrain Год назад +1

    Peeche tender coconut and he's having Pepsi, I guess! 🙂

  • @GeekyDataWhiz-um9gi
    @GeekyDataWhiz-um9gi 7 месяцев назад +2

    Can we make atheist matrimony 😂😂😂😂

    • @xboobgenius
      @xboobgenius 4 месяца назад

      hahaha, we’d love it ngl

  • @carvakalokayata
    @carvakalokayata 2 года назад +1

    I would Like to Interview and Invite Shahbaz Ansar to my Channel.😊

  • @user-ji6ku2wc5y
    @user-ji6ku2wc5y Месяц назад

    I also,Turbulence is common in atheist 😂😂😂

  • @sumeetghai8867
    @sumeetghai8867 2 года назад

    India also have blasphemy laws as section 295a under india. Penal court which is a non bailable and unwarrated persicussion. Which no warrant ia required to arrest you in case of some so called blasphemical act

  • @sumeetghai8867
    @sumeetghai8867 2 года назад

    This is true that atheist accounts for 3 laegest population in the world with over 1/3 american becoming atheist and only poland rome and romania having religious inclination.

  • @DevduttaFlute
    @DevduttaFlute 4 месяца назад

    After my marraige I realised that I am an aethiest.

  • @humanism9830
    @humanism9830 2 года назад +2

    I only believe one god and humanity..I don’t follow any religion but respect every religion 🙏💪🏻❤️

    • @ex.hindu.now.atheist
      @ex.hindu.now.atheist Год назад +2

      @Humanism
      What leads you to believe that a god exists ?

    • @im_rehbar
      @im_rehbar Год назад +1

      @@ex.hindu.now.atheist 😂 what is atheism?

    • @ex.hindu.now.atheist
      @ex.hindu.now.atheist Год назад +3

      @@im_rehbar
      "😂 what is atheism?"
      In spite of your laughing emoji, I will assume that you are asking sincerely, and therefore here is the definition of atheism:
      'Atheism is the absence of belief that any god exists.'
      I am an atheist because so far there is not a shred of verifiable evidence, not a shred of credible evidence, that any god (of any religion, any belief-system, any 'way of life', any 'dharmic system') exists.

    • @im_rehbar
      @im_rehbar Год назад +1

      @@ex.hindu.now.atheist 1800 years ago when there was no proof of things at all that means things didn't exist? And ur existance is the ultimate proof of god. Did u create urself? Lets assume u Evolved but How the First life came into existance by its own?that supposedly means that ur mother given birth to ur mother? Fine tuning of the universe is just a coincidence?
      Rationality says that yeah there Must be a god. And Btw atheism is a belief of absence of god.

    • @ex.hindu.now.atheist
      @ex.hindu.now.atheist Год назад +3

      @@im_rehbar
      Are you a theist or a deist?
      If you are a theist or a deist, WHICH "concept" of god do you believe in, and which method of appeasing (so-called worshipping) that god do you subscribe to-the Judaic, the Islamic, the Christian, the Hindu, the Sikh, the Zoroastrian, or some concept and method?

  • @nio3323
    @nio3323 2 года назад

    Hindi ya Urdu me bat Kiya kare

  • @MrUtam219
    @MrUtam219 7 месяцев назад

    Essence Global

  • @rohit-xo3jb
    @rohit-xo3jb 2 месяца назад

    Atheist with hindu name

  • @skepticsagar694
    @skepticsagar694 2 месяца назад

    Religion wastes our lot of love on imaginary things or wishes.

  • @aazadi_baaki_hai
    @aazadi_baaki_hai Год назад +1

    Inquilab zindabad 🇮🇳

  • @user-ji6ku2wc5y
    @user-ji6ku2wc5y 2 месяца назад

    They can't even understand atheist can good people

  • @saquibkhan2103
    @saquibkhan2103 11 месяцев назад +1

    57:51 bacho ko zoo le Jaya jata h wese….. 🤫🤫👏🏻

  • @rawasbhai123
    @rawasbhai123 Год назад +1

    Hpw can absolute nothingness cam create something ?

  • @d3vev
    @d3vev 4 месяца назад

    cool watch a168

  • @savapharma6080
    @savapharma6080 3 месяца назад

    This discussion played very positive impact on illogical religion .But will create pro bjp athiest .

  • @battlerushiromiya651
    @battlerushiromiya651 2 года назад +2

    51:26 One correction, Hitler did not persecute Jews due to blaming them for killing jesus. European anti semitism comes from this idea. Hitler hated jews due to blaming them for aiding Germanys defeat during the First World War and considered them to be communist sympathizers who were trying to weaken Germany with the destructive ideology of COmmunism.
    Secondly, Hitler was not a christian, he was baptized as a catholic but was anti clerical and only pandered to christian sentiments for his political gain, he himself as recorded by his biographers wanted to reduce the influence of the Church in German society.
    For someone who is supposedly Christian he banned religious instruction in church run schools, removed all symbols of the christianity from church run schools and hospitals, had a special concentration camp for priests, where most of the people were catholics( the denomination he was baptized in), he shut down catholic run trade unions, catholic newspapers and even killed catholic political opponents.
    The clincher is the hatred that the German National Church that Hitler tried to form had for Paul, who is the one who spread christianity to the non-jews, no person who calls Paul a distorter of Christs message to make people susceptible to being influenced by Jews, can be called a Christian by any stretch of imagination. He was an atheist.

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  2 года назад +8

      The amount of religious influence in Nazi propaganda is evidence that he was religious. And the propaganda about jews was fueled by Biblical hatred for jews. I understand the need to cleanse one's religion from Hitler, but I'm afraid there is literally no evidence for Hitler being an atheist. He was, at the very least, someone who did believe in god and was therefore not an atheist.

    • @battlerushiromiya651
      @battlerushiromiya651 2 года назад +1

      @@vimohlive Well, he was not a christian at least, in his own life he never showed any great consideration to Christianity, his own targetting of the catholic church is well documented, as well as his own churches teachings. I dont know how someone who accuses Paul of distorting Jesus message can ever be called a christian, there literally is no Christianity without Paul.
      I dont deny that many of the people who supported Nazism were christian ( there were atheists as well and even a German Hindu), and I also dont deny Nazis made use of Christian symbolsm in their public speeches but behind closed doors, not even Hitler liked the religion and many of his actions against the church, his plans to eradicate the predominantly christain slavic population and his own personal views as recorded in Table Talk show this.
      Please tell me how Hitlers own personal thoughts on christianity, make him a
      christian, here are some gems:
      "When one thinks of the opinions held concerning Christianity by our best minds a hundred, two hundred years ago, one is ashamed to realise how little we have since evolved. I didn't know that Julian the Apostate had passed on such clear-sighted judgment on Christianity[...] the Galilean, who later was called Christ, intended something quite different. The Galilean was and must always be regarded as a popular leader who took up His position against the Jews [...] and it's certain that Jesus was not a Jew. The Jews, by the way, regarded Him as the son of a whore-of a whore and a Roman soldier. The decisive falsification of Jesus's teachings was the work of St. Paul [...] or Paul of Tarsus (his name was Saul, before the road to Damascus) was one of those who persecuted Jesus most savagely"
      - From Hitlers Table Talk dated 21st October 1941.
      "The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew."
      Hitlers Table Talk, 1953
      "You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?"
      Inside the Third Reich Memoirs, by Albert Speer, Page 115
      "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."
      Table Talk, 1941-44
      "I realise that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors - but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch, in the next 200 years, will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity. My regret will have been that I could not behold its demise."
      Table Talk, 1941-44
      This is my favorite one.
      "If, in the course of a thousand or two thousand years, science arrives at the necessity of renewing its points of view, that will not mean that science is a liar. Science cannot lie, for it's always striving, according to the momentary state of knowledge, to deduce what is true. When it makes a mistake, it does so in good faith. It's Christianity that's the liar. It's in perpetual conflict with itself."
      Table Talk 1941-44
      "Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone, and it's the Jew who, thanks to this diabolic invention, has thrown him back fifteen centuries. The only thing that would be still worse would be victory for the Jew through Bolshevism. If Bolshevism triumphed, mankind would lose the gift of laughter and joy. It would become merely a shapeless mass, doomed to grayness and despair."
      Table Talk, 1941-44
      "This pride of race is a quality which the German, fundamentally, does not possess. The reason for this is that for these last three centuries the country has been torn by internal dissension and religious wars and has been subjected to a variety of foreign influences, to the influence, for example, of Christianity-for Christianity is not a natural religion for the Germans, but a religion that has been imported and which strikes no responsive chord in their hearts and is foreign to the inherent genius of the race."
      Table Talk 1941-44
      He may be a theist but calling him a christain, especially in a country like India, where due to anti christian bigotry every crime western christians ever did is put on our feet is dangerous, we already face heat due to goan inquistion and the destruction of native american culture in the American culture, Indian christians dont need to hear about how the holocaust is also caused us.

    • @battlerushiromiya651
      @battlerushiromiya651 2 года назад

      @@vimohlive One last thing, yes, the German society did hate the jews due to what they believed they did to Jesus, but this had become a normative prejudice by the time Hitler rolled around.
      No matter how virulently Christians hated the Jews before Hitlers birth, it never reached the level of hatred during the third Reich, along with banal religious hatred what nazism combined was a sense of ethnic nationalism where Jews were complete foreigners in terms of both religion and ethnicity, who also were blamed for the defeat of Germany in the First World War.
      Christiaity definitely deserves the blame for creating anti semitism, but scientific racism and ethnic nationalism are what turned the Nazis into truly demonic people. They even wanted to ethnically cleanse the slavic people as well.

    • @LoveYourself-my9nz
      @LoveYourself-my9nz Год назад +1

      @@battlerushiromiya651 he was not an atheist. I don't know if it's true or not but I've read somewhere that he was very much influenced by islam!
      And he killed Jews for religious reason... Both Christianity and islaam has so much hate towards the Jews.

    • @battlerushiromiya651
      @battlerushiromiya651 Год назад

      @@LoveYourself-my9nz He was influenced by many things but notably his anti Jewish pogroms were due to him hating jews as a people which cane from scientific racism created during the enlightenment. He had a great opinion on the Bhagad gita as well. See how easy it is to link different influences to hitlers pogroms?
      He also had a belief in superiority of germanic paganism over christianity due to its martial character.
      He may not have been an atheist but he was not a Christian either or a Muslim.

  • @sandyajj
    @sandyajj 2 года назад +5

    Savarkar, Jinnah, Advani were atheists. And you are saying they cannot divide people and create factions 😂😂

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  2 года назад +14

      None of them created divides by saying "atheists unite". Plus, if atheists are bad, other atheists call them bad. They don't justify their actions by saying they are holy and cannot make mistakes.

    • @sandyajj
      @sandyajj 2 года назад +1

      @@vimohlive They could have done that if atheists would have been the majority. Eg China rule now doesn’t believe in any religion. But are committing genocide anyway.

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  2 года назад +13

      I am not interested in "could have" and "would have". And China isn't committing violence because of atheism. And also, atheists do condemn all genocides. Religious people, on the other hand, try to justify religious violence.

    • @sandyajj
      @sandyajj 2 года назад +2

      @@vimohlive All problems arise when there is majoritarianism. When you say we are better than the rest because we believe in this. They are different hence dangerous. This” atheists are better and will bring peace” theory is BS. They too can be as majoritarian as religious people . Most are smug and look down on others who practice religion. ( BTW I am an atheist but don’t attribute any virtues to being that.) People can be bad/ good regardless of what they believe. China is committing genocide because they fear religious fanaticism. Isn’t that connected to their atheist beliefs? Like you most religious people condemn genocide too

    • @vimohlive
      @vimohlive  2 года назад +8

      @@sandyajj Again, I am more concerned with what is rather than what can be. The world we live in is one where religious violence happens, religious violence is justified, and criticism of religion is deflected using "if atheists could, they would too". None of that is useful. I myself have a problem with smug atheists that I have spoken about on a a number of occasions. But the truth remains. Our problems are due to religion, not atheism. Imaginary fantasy scenarios do nothing to solve it. The three examples you started with, all did their bad things in the name of religion, not atheism.

  • @sumeetghai8867
    @sumeetghai8867 2 года назад

    Sarkar dharmik cost bear kaeti vote ke khaatir. It's another way to segregate religiois based population and sentiments and make your strategy according to that.

  • @worldwithsana
    @worldwithsana 7 месяцев назад

    bhai ek baat smjh nhi aayi ab nastik bhi apna religion bna rhe hain kiya hadd hai

    • @kawishraza7192
      @kawishraza7192 5 месяцев назад

      Religion nahi community kaha unhone

  • @NeyamatAnsari-iz6zz
    @NeyamatAnsari-iz6zz 3 месяца назад

    Islam me galti bata mere bhai

    • @SubrataRabidas123
      @SubrataRabidas123 День назад

      Atheist means they don't believe in God so they are saying give avidence there is allha so that's why they are atheist and i am not atheist I follow vedant .

  • @user-iv8kp7rv7r
    @user-iv8kp7rv7r Месяц назад

    I feel pity for these two. They have been taken away from best thing called spirituality...!!

  • @XplorerSyed
    @XplorerSyed 3 месяца назад +1

    It is sad that people have to hide their no faith in our land . . . People in Pune have been killed over this matter . . .none other than the founders of rationality thinkers. . I hope I see a day where i can see Indian without any tormenting force of the so called groupism

  • @AthiestRakesh
    @AthiestRakesh 4 месяца назад

    I am an atheist & belong to Patna.❤❤

  • @thephilosophicalnerd
    @thephilosophicalnerd 6 месяцев назад

    I agree with you that we need to add atheist or non-religious to the census. It already has religion not stated option, and there are 0.7 million people under that category in the last census.
    For atheists to claim policy directed towards them we must first establish that they have a distinctive need. People belonging to certain religious group need to practice their religion so they have requirements regarding that but what specific need an atheist would have simply on account of being an atheist?
    Also assimilating atheism in Hindu fold is not "caste-splaining" as Vimoh mentioned. Atheist has a specific meaning in the west. It means that religion which believes in personal God. Most of Indian schools of Philosophy do not believe in personal God and people mistake this with having something like Hindu atheist...
    All schools of thought except Charvaka in India subscribe to supernatural belief even if it is not a belief in person God that is the creator of the universe ex nihilo. Usually such claims come up because people do not fully grasp the meaning of the terms involved. No religion can be atheistic though some are God-less.
    Lastly the question you get from fellow atheists seem like Vimoh is the new Baba of atheists who explains the code of conduct to their cult. 😅 We atheists need to be socially differently organized or else much of the discussion around injustice towards atheists at least reminded me of the early days of Christianity and unfair treatment they received. We sound like a persecuted community that is showing courage in the face of ghor anyaya from fanatics. 😅

  • @nio3323
    @nio3323 2 года назад +2

    बहुत अच्छी स्ट्रीम