The part where Chief gets hit by the train was actually a huge point of contention between animators. In the book this movie is based on, Chief dies from the impact, which many of the new, younger animators wanted to leave in, stating that it was necessary to give Copper a proper motive for revenge. However, the veteran animators wanted Chief to live saying that they had never killed off a main character before, and they weren't about to start now. Ultimately, the old guard won, but it caused a major riff between them and the new guard, and even contributed to Don Bluth leaving Disney to form his own animation company.
Not just Don Bluth. It also got two of the other young animators, Tim Burton and Brad Bird, to start looking for a way to work elsewhere, ultimatly leaving after The Black Cauldron. Also Cheif dying was supposes to be in the movie originally when it was mainly Reitherman in charge rather than Stevens, in the book Cheif, Tod and Copper all die.
I read the book as a child, my babysitter bought me the book as a young girl. It’s completely reversed in the book. Traumatized me as a kid after I finished reading the book
As a kid, this traumatized me more than Bambi. Death I understood, but having to be separated from someone for something other than that was just devastating to me. Which of course is something that makes more sense with age, and I can appreciate the depth of the story now.
Oh man...the scene of the woman dropping poor Todd off in the forest gets me every time. When my daughter watched this for the first time, she was upset with me because I didn't warn her (I didn't want to spoil anything for her) - we had a good cry over it 😭😭
Todd is middle English for Fox. Copper was a British term for a policeman, and criminals were seen as sly like foxes. This is very much a story about 2 natural enemies being friends as kids, then seeing their lives changing from their environment and culture.
My poor dad took me to see this in the theater when I was a kid and I sobbed hysterically when she dropped Tod off in the woods. This was all hand, they were not using CG at this time.
I don’t care who u are, the scene where she takes him to the wild and leaves him will make any grown man cry and make emotional, this is the darkest and deepest Disney movie ever made, no one had ever made it thro this movie without crying in that moment alone, this is definitely one of disneys best movies, a top 5 for sure, some people don’t respect and understand the story behind the movie and what it means and stands for, it’s truly an amazing movie
@@EliasuSanone of the darkest can mean it’s up there in top 5 range for darkest stories, if u look into the actual book story based off this movie then it’s the most dark and disturbing, u would have to know the book history to know the movie history going into it
I was sad but I didn't cry not even when I was a child and this was the second Disney movie I ever saw. I must have been five or six and it never seemed dark to me. I didn't cry now. Miss Brispy and the Secret of Nihm is dark for me or the Black Cauldron (We only had the Audio tape as children and that felt dark enough). But I remember how much the movie exidet us (me and my brother). It was the numer one topic for a while (for my brother it was the first movie he ever saw and he is two years younger). We had the book for the movie later on.
My eyes got swollen and I'm just sobbing after seeing that scene here again. I always cry with this movie, but after having to say goodbye to my dog, seeing her say goodbye to the Tod broke my heart in a different way and I feel miserable now 🫠
Ik it is as the technically right thing to do by releasing Tod but you also got to understand that even though he was wild as a baby he's basically domesticated now, with no real idea how to survive on his own. I cant imagine the heartbreak and worry she had upon releasing him. Another thing with Vixie and Tod with the traps. He was confident but he also didn't have his basic survival instincts. He didn't know the signs like when the forest is quiet there's danger. Vixie was always wild so she knew these things and sensed something was wrong.
This was actually Disney's last animated movie that DIDN'T use any CGI. The first movie they used it in was for fog and smoke effects in "The Black Cauldron", released in 1985, 4 years after this one. The first movie Disney used extensive CGI in was for the clock gear scene in "The Great Mouse Detective", released in 1986.
Unless you count 1982't Tron in the mix, but that wasn't specifically Disney Animation, even though some shots were hand animated. That being said, CG Animation was barely out of the womb at the time. They couldn't even see WHAT they had animated without rendering it for hours and hoping they didn't make a mistake.
Originally, Chief was to be killed by the train and therefore justify Copper's revenge on Tod. However, for the same reasons as Trusty, the producers decided it would be too intense for kids, so they had Chief survive with a broken leg instead.
I was scared if one of them wouldn't survived from that black bear because when I was a kid that bear was humongous I was so terrified how can a fox best a black bear
Despite how scary some of the scenes can be for young kids as it was for me when I was one, I still really appreciate how they didn't 'dumb down' or soften the edges and kept the story and animation mature and true to life. If this were made today I have no doubt half the scenes here would've been scrapped and the other half would've been watered down and "kiddified". I miss animation and storytelling like this.
I LOVE the scene where they just fight like there was no cheesy dialogue or anything out of the ordinary they just see each other, lock eyes and go wild
I always thought this was symbolic that friendships don’t always last forever like we think they will when we are kids doesn’t mean we are bad people just going on different paths in life.
This movie is the reason my favorite animal are Fox’s. But the emotional trauma 😭 with his mom dying in the beginning, dropping Todd off in the forest, and then the friendship with Copper. By far this is my most emotional movie growing up but I couldn’t stop going back to it
I enjoy this Disney film. The tale of how two unlikely animals end up becoming friends and having to put their friendship to the test as adults is very interesting. Plus, I appreciate the comedy relief provided by Dinky, Boomer, and Squeaks. The Fox and the Hound is a fun and emotionally engaging film imo, a wonderful Disney classic.
If I had to pick the one Disney animation that's guaranteed to make me cry, this one is it. It doesn't matter how many times I've seen this; when it gets to the lady taking Tod to the preserve, I'm sobbing during her monologue. But the story itself even stands up today in what it shows: kids don't have any judgements and make friends with anyone, they're TAUGHT to judge and act certain ways to certain people. But they are also capable of still acting on their own personal feelings, if given the chance.
This film was the final Disney animated film, that Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston, two members of Walt Disney's original "Nine Old Men" had worked on before their departure in 1978, it also was the first Disney animated film to bring in the next generation of directors and animators, which included John Lasseter, Ron Clements, John Musker, Glen Keane, Tim Burton, Brad Bird, Henry Selick, Chris Buck, Mike Gabriel, and Mark Dindal, all of whom would finalize the animation and complete the film's production. Those new animators especially Ron Clements and John Musker would play an important role in the Disney Renaissance of the 1980s and 1990s.
This was really one of the last films that had any involvement from the remaining "Nine Old Men" of Disney's golden age who I believe retired early in the production, and so the animation torch was passed on to the next generation of young directors and animators including: John Lasseter, John Musker, Brad Bird, Ron Clements, and Tim Burton The bear scene was an early example of Glen Keane's stellar work before he later became a lead animator mainstay of the Disney Renaissance, e.g. Ariel, Aladdin, Beast, Tarzan, and others. Somewhere on youtube (hopefully the footage is still around) there's a behind the scenes bit where he flips his sketches of the moment Todd leaps onto that bear. His artistry is incredible and really showed the dynamism and intensity of the moment
Easily one of my favorite Bronze Age films as a kid and literally no Disney animated film (besides Bambi) had made me cry and I just can’t get over the scene where Widow Tweed had to let go of Todd and dropping him off in the forest, just the tears man.🦊🐶😭 Thanks for the reaction and looking forward to your reaction of _The Aristocats_ next week.🐱
32:23 Good ear! The porcupine in this movie was voiced by John Fiedler, who also voiced Piglet in Disney's "Winnie the Pooh", as well as Parson Owl in "The Rescuers." Chief was voiced by veteran Western actor Pat Buttram, who also voiced Napoleon the dog in "The Aristocats", the Sheriff of Nottingham in "Robin Hood" and Luke the muskrat in "The Rescuers".
Fiedler was also Sexton Mouse in _Robin Hood_ and Rudy (the old guy who "threw off" Kuzco’s Groove) in _The Emperor’s New Groove._ Also Paul Winchell who voices Boomer the Woodpecker in the film was the voice of Tigger.
I loved this movie as a child! Made me sob every time. Oh, if you're doing older Disney film reactions it would be amazing if you considered Great Mouse Detective. Not only is it my favorite Disney film, but one of my all-time favorites as well.
This movie is all old heart. For me he is a heartwarming piece. Traditional classical animation has a sense of depth and authenticity that modern computer 3D animation does not have. I love everything about this movie, the old fashioned style, the animation, the music, and the beautiful backgrounds of the Pennsylvania-New England landscapes.
The landscapes in the US in these countries are very similar. Everything is taken as inspiration. I don't think it's one specific place - it's a mosaic of parts and regions of the US that were the inspiration for the film. The state of Pennsylvania is associated with the writer Daniel P. Mannix, it is assumed that the Nobel is based there. But the Appalachia bridge can also be part of the set, certainly. @@Schniedragon88
This is one of the most emotional Disney Animated film because Tod and Copper started off as best friends when they were young, but sadly fate had other plans for them. It's sad to see Tod and Copper as enemies during the third act. Love your reactions! And hopefully you guys watch The Great Mouse Detective someday!
In the book version, Chief does die and he was planned to in earlier stages but it was changed to him surviving with a broken leg which does diminish the reason for Copper and Amos to get revenge on Tod. For a long time it was speculated that there was a conflict between the older animators (some of the Nine Old Men like Ollie Johnston, Frank Thomas and producer/director Wolfman Reitherman) and the younger ones (such as Glen Keane and John Lasseter, yes, one of the former heads of Pixar and director of Toy Story 1 and 2, A Bug's Life and Cars 1 and 2) on the disagareement whever Cheif should die or not (the older animators wanted Cheif to survive because of they thought it would be traumatic to kids, the younger ones wanted Chief to die for a better story). However, not too long ago, a RUclipsr interviewed Jerry Reeves, the director of Brave Little Toaster and many Disney World attractions such as Cranium Command and ExtraTERRORestial: Alien Encounter, as well as the surpervisor animator on Space Jam. He revealed this wasn't the case, it was a demand from the higher ups of Disney (the producers and board members) that Chief shouldn't die, to play safe with the audience. Another note from them was to not show Tod's mom get shot as to show that she might have survived (though, in my opinion, this doesn't work out and even if it's more implied that she died, I think it's too obvious she didn't survive or she would have come back for Tod, which would have made the whole thing with Widow Tweed to adopt him being redundant).
Alot of the voices you'll hear in this movie have been used across the board in early Disney movies... For instance Chief voice was also used in Robinhood! The scene where the woman drops Todd off is why i have trust issues and why i got in assisting rescues because she set him up for failure ahe assumes his instincts would kick in but his fear of people is gone being hand raised by one!! So in reality todd would die!!
For the longest time, that bear was the scariest thing I've ever seen in a movie. As a kid, I got seriously frightened when it showed up. They really did a good job of making that thing huge and terrifying. And it's not really a very big part of the movie.
True also because of the red eyes. -But "Sharptooth" In Land before Time scared me even more. It was the first movie were I had to look away for a couple of minutes.
I'll be honest : I know this movie since I was a kid, one of the few I watched over and over back then. But then farewell scene with the old lady...man, it always hits very hard. I already have teary eyes thinking about it.
This movie makes me cry so much. The car scene, the end scene where Copper stands up for Todd, the very end where they have the kid voices again reaffirming that they're friends forever, no matter what. It gets me every time. On a different note, that bear is the reason that I was afraid of the dark. Just a big black shape with red eyes and teeth suddenly appearing *shudders*. You guys were talking about how cool it looked, and I'm a full adult and it still scared me. Nope, nope, nope. Somehow, this movie was still one of my favorites and I love that y'all reacted to it!
I love this movie so much! The scene where the woman dropped Todd off in the woods used to make me cry as a kid. It’s such a beautiful movie about an unlikely friendship
It doesn't matter if she raised the fox as a pet or raised him to be released. You NEVER take an animal to an unfamiliar place and drop them off! Not even a wild animal. They won't know the food, water, shelter, dangers, or even who has claimed that territory and will fight for it. They can't learn all those things in the 2-3 days it would take to survive. It's a death sentence. 🦊
Super excited on your upcoming reaction to one of Disney’s most dramatic and heartbreaking animated films and I’m so excited that you’ll be reacting to _The Aristocats_ next week one of my favorite Bronze Age Disney films. I definitely recommend during your Disney animated movie reactions I highly recommend both you and Nobu react to the remaining Disney animated classics _The Sword in the Stone, The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, The Rescuers_ & _The Rescuers Down Under, Oliver & Company, Pocahontas, Bambi, Dumbo, Fantasia/Fantasia 2000_ and _The Great Mouse Detective_
When I was 5 years old, my mom found me sobbing to this movie in my grandma's office. Grandma always comforted me. Every time I see references from this movie, it takes me back to memories of my grandma and her love.
The scene where she had to drop Todd off in the forest was and still is the scene that pulls on my heart strings more than any other scene in any other Disney movie it’s the saddest scene ever. I can still ball my eyes out over this whole scene & music 😭
Jesus, my heart melts whenever I hear 11:08. So cute, I've loved his little pup howl ever since I watched this as a child. Copper is so adorable as a puppy. Even so, Todd was always my favorite, such a handsome little fox. I love their friendship, and how they protect each other even though it's against their natures.
I actually tend to love movies that show a relationship that has a bittersweet ending and doesn’t last forever… I love happy endings too! But I’m learning so many relationships in our lives can’t be lifelong. And those relationships still hold such beauty for what they will always mean to us. I struggle with letting go of friendships especially and I feel like these movies help me see the goodness of letting go. It’s still painful, but it’s also sweet and meaningful. Those movies bring a different type of comfort to me and I really love a tear-felt goodbye. Great reaction y’all!!
22:20 Just so you know, there is an interview on RUclips with the animator who invested the new way to animate the birds in this movie. Don't think RUclips would let me link it here, but I could tell you the video name and the Channel, if you're interested. EDIT: Woops. Meant "invented", though I'm sure they invested their creativity in it too. XD
The Fox and the Hound is my all-time favorite Disney movie, and the only Disney movie that makes me cry every time. Their ending, not being able to be together at the end, was so sad for me as a little kid. Now, when I watch it, it makes me remember the friends that I have lost along the way of my life.
Not a single Disney movie ever made me cry more than this one. LION king was close but when Copper saves Todd…..nothing but water works. I’m a 50 year old man and I can admit it.
They had barely started using CGI at this point and only sparingly. You'd be surprised what a skilled animator could without computers. Check out the backgrounds in Sleeping Beauty.
Man I miss old disney: back when they put overwhelmingly impressive effort in their animation, back when their writing was wholesome without some arbitrary agenda, back when the characters were realistic with common sense and critical thinking, back when they left important details unsaid to hit harder once you recognized the implications, and back when they unapologetically highlighted overlooked harsh truths of life.
Did you hear the disney remake of bambi is not going to have his mothers death scene?! They say it would be too upsetting to children, I think kids need this type of trauma because it helps develop a healthy mentality to the reality of the world.
According to Wikipedia the first western animated film to use CGI was Rock and Rule which was released in 1983 - its worth watching by the way and not a children's movie. When you watch The Secret of NIMH (1982) keep in mind that it was released only one year after the Fox and the Hound which is crazy when you compare the (non-CGI) animation affects and style.
0:16 to 0:22 is me straight up. Born in 2001, I was right there between VCRs and DVD players, and to this day, I still own and watch a lot of movies on VHS tapes, and I LOVED watching this movie as a kid, and even today think it's a really underrated Disney movie. I just never hear people mention it when talking about Disney movies.
Every time without fail, I get misty eyed when she drops Todd off and Copper turns his back on him. First, I thought about that being my pet. It hurt. Second, I get teary because I know how much it hurt Copper because he grew very close to him while they were hunting and there was a distance between him and his friend. So good. I got it even as a kid. Recommend Rock-a-doodle, An American Tail, and The Great Detective
You guys reacted to 101 dalmations a year ago and you loved it. You loved the design of Cruella Devil and loved that the dogs (with the twilight bark) all pitched in to save the puppies. It's great to see you reviewing this one! You should do Aristocats next!
Love that they mention the music. It is a Mandolin! you have to remember before the surge of rock in the 70's and 80's. Folk and country music was the most popular music in US period. So a lot of these classics like Bambi, Fox and the Hound, etc. all had a feel to them of the country lifestyle and included well known voice actors who were known for their country drawl. Characters from Green Acres and He Haw we're instantly recognizable. It was something all the parents of the children watching could connect with. Nowadays a lot of people have never even been camping or visited the rural areas. Bluegrass and folk music is almost a lost art form. Which is why a lot of modern kids movies have to really cram a lot of stuff into the movie to hit with a broad audience.
The smear frames on Dinky's animation were a stroke of genius, and made him so much more finch-like. His animator, Jerry Rees, was told not to use that technique, but he was still able to sneak them in after the keyframes were approved.
My sister’s patronus is a basset hound and her best friend’s patronus is a fox. So, Fox and the Hound is their thing and they constantly buy each other merch from this movie. It’s so cute!
Oh no this movie made me cry and I didn't even watch it when I was a little kid, but like later on, when I was like 14. Great adaptation, though definitely more light hearted than the book, if you can believe that.
This was one of my favorite movies when I was small. I was around 6 when this came out but still loved it. It still makes me cry every time I watch it.
I'm so glad that you shared your reaction to this film. Aside to the obvious "we can love each other when we're fundamentally different " message, this makes me think of the countless videos of different species reuniting after they bonded in at least one party's formative years: the recognition and the affection are there, but you wouldn't live in their territory or with their pack. Yet another example of the dark and brutal source material being shaped into a lovely and palatable story.
This was one of my favorite Disney movies as a kid (I WAS in the VCR generation, but the movie was re-released in theaters before it was released on VHS). While it's dark, gritty and mature compared to most Disney fare, it's pure sweetness and light compared to the 1967 novel it's based on. Aside from its artistic value, this movie also gave the world the gift of the Don Bluth cartoon movies from the 1980s and 90s. Bluth worked for Disney until this movie was in production. He wanted to stay closer to the book, which would have meant making it MUCH darker than it is (can you imagine a Disney film being "much darker"?) but the surviving members of Walt's original animation team who were still in charge of the studio at the time flatly refused. Bluth then left to form his own studio, taking many of the younger animators with him. They went on to make "The Secret of N.I.M.H.", "An American Tail", "The Land Before Time" and "All Dogs go to Heaven", which I enjoyed just as much as the films Disney was making.
The original book ends with the main characters all dieing. In the hunters vengeance he killed off the world he knew over time, selling land to developers of a local suburbanite and by tge time they got the fox, the woods he knew where built out of existence and the animals that were once in the area replaced by people. This is an alternative take where the hunter doesn't hunt tod till the end of his days.
My parents took me to see this in the movies. Apparently, it left a big impression on me, but I haven't seen it in 40 years. Good to see you react to it
I loved this movie as a kid. I watched it over and over and over again. There was something just so comforting about the animation and the way the kid versions of Tod and Copper talked to each other. I always cried when she let Tod go. Even hearing her inner monologue here made me tear up.
When Copper started legitimately hunting Tod, it didn't feel like Copper. I knew he was Copper, but I knew that he was not playing around. The way Copper moved also felt different. Like it was on pure instinct. Same with Tod. It felt as if both Tod and I stopped seeing Copper and instead seeing a threat they had to get away with.
I'm all grown up and I still bawl at the scene where Tod is left alone in the forest. Maybe I just love animals too much, maybe it's my own abandonment issues or just the fact that I can't stand the thought of an innocent soul feeling alone and lost but ugh, I cried just watching this reaction video while preparing my lessons for tomorrow, let alone if I decided to watch the whole movie.
I think this was the last Disney film that used a game hunter as an antagonist, due to Disney subverting hunting culture for a couple decades and receiving negative responses from hunting communities. From then on most hunter villains were poachers, profiteers, and wranglers (Clayton from Tarzan, Alameda Slim from Hone on the Range, and McLeach from Rescuers Down Under).
That's actually quite a genius way for Disney to have their cake and eat it. As far as kids are concerned, they get it. They don't care if an animal is hunted, poached, or wrangled - They KNOW each way is cruel.
The trick Todd uses to throw Copper off his scent (just before the bear shows up) is the same trick he used back in the beginning when they were playing hide-and-seek
Something cool to note is that the Sheriff's VA and Little John's VA have acted together in a lot of movies. One example, they were both in Rock-A-Doodle.
Thank you guys for reacting to one of my childhood favorites! I was 6 years old in the summer of 1981 when the film was released and it traumatized me for some time. I haven't seen it in ages. I loved Mama Owl. She was awesome. This is one of your best reactions.
You were right; apparently, this was the first Disney animated feature to use CG. This was one of my favorites when I was a kid! I watched that VHS so many times!
Glen Keane was the supervising animator for much of the film's final act. From the moment when Tod wakes up in the tree panicking, he looks and moves much more like a Disney Renaissance character.
in answer to your question about CGI. 1981 was way to early for them to have CG for anything. they actually started on it back in 77 They may have roto-scoped over actual film footage, but they certainly didn't have the CG at the time to make a car that was animated realistically.
Oh man this is one of those movies that you cry no matter what, thank you for the reaction. If you ever get the chance take a look at the animation Strange Magic, it has a amazing sound track and is funny!
The part where Chief gets hit by the train was actually a huge point of contention between animators. In the book this movie is based on, Chief dies from the impact, which many of the new, younger animators wanted to leave in, stating that it was necessary to give Copper a proper motive for revenge. However, the veteran animators wanted Chief to live saying that they had never killed off a main character before, and they weren't about to start now. Ultimately, the old guard won, but it caused a major riff between them and the new guard, and even contributed to Don Bluth leaving Disney to form his own animation company.
Interesting.
I heard Don Bluth left before the film began.
@@noirgathererhe left in the middle of it. Some of his scenes stayed. But he asked to have his name off the movie credits
Not just Don Bluth. It also got two of the other young animators, Tim Burton and Brad Bird, to start looking for a way to work elsewhere, ultimatly leaving after The Black Cauldron.
Also Cheif dying was supposes to be in the movie originally when it was mainly Reitherman in charge rather than Stevens, in the book Cheif, Tod and Copper all die.
I read the book as a child, my babysitter bought me the book as a young girl. It’s completely reversed in the book. Traumatized me as a kid after I finished reading the book
As a kid, this traumatized me more than Bambi. Death I understood, but having to be separated from someone for something other than that was just devastating to me. Which of course is something that makes more sense with age, and I can appreciate the depth of the story now.
Oh man...the scene of the woman dropping poor Todd off in the forest gets me every time. When my daughter watched this for the first time, she was upset with me because I didn't warn her (I didn't want to spoil anything for her) - we had a good cry over it 😭😭
Same here. It destroys me every time
Same
That scene has made me cry since I was a kid. I still can't watch this without crying my eyes out.
Heartbreaking scene. Always made me cry. 😭
Was watching this movie once not long after losing a family pet to old age.... never cried so hard to a cartoon at that point.
Todd is middle English for Fox. Copper was a British term for a policeman, and criminals were seen as sly like foxes. This is very much a story about 2 natural enemies being friends as kids, then seeing their lives changing from their environment and culture.
31 years old and this movie still makes me cry when she takes Tod to the forest.
Right?? I can't hardly handle it! 😂
Noooooo
…. Goodbye may seem forever is still an immediate tear jerker! 😭
My poor dad took me to see this in the theater when I was a kid and I sobbed hysterically when she dropped Tod off in the woods. This was all hand, they were not using CG at this time.
I don’t care who u are, the scene where she takes him to the wild and leaves him will make any grown man cry and make emotional, this is the darkest and deepest Disney movie ever made, no one had ever made it thro this movie without crying in that moment alone, this is definitely one of disneys best movies, a top 5 for sure, some people don’t respect and understand the story behind the movie and what it means and stands for, it’s truly an amazing movie
One of the deepest and sadder Disney movies? Yes. One of the darker though? I would say that honour goes to “The Hunchback of Notre Dame”
@@EliasuSanone of the darkest can mean it’s up there in top 5 range for darkest stories, if u look into the actual book story based off this movie then it’s the most dark and disturbing, u would have to know the book history to know the movie history going into it
I'm 30 and yup.. Same here. This movie is very impactful and beautiful. The music alone, the emotions.. aaaa great stuff
I was sad but I didn't cry not even when I was a child and this was the second Disney movie I ever saw. I must have been five or six and it never seemed dark to me. I didn't cry now. Miss Brispy and the Secret of Nihm is dark for me or the Black Cauldron (We only had the Audio tape as children and that felt dark enough). But I remember how much the movie exidet us (me and my brother). It was the numer one topic for a while (for my brother it was the first movie he ever saw and he is two years younger). We had the book for the movie later on.
My eyes got swollen and I'm just sobbing after seeing that scene here again. I always cry with this movie, but after having to say goodbye to my dog, seeing her say goodbye to the Tod broke my heart in a different way and I feel miserable now 🫠
Big mama is one of friendliest and caring Disney owls ever.
Ik it is as the technically right thing to do by releasing Tod but you also got to understand that even though he was wild as a baby he's basically domesticated now, with no real idea how to survive on his own. I cant imagine the heartbreak and worry she had upon releasing him.
Another thing with Vixie and Tod with the traps. He was confident but he also didn't have his basic survival instincts. He didn't know the signs like when the forest is quiet there's danger. Vixie was always wild so she knew these things and sensed something was wrong.
This was actually Disney's last animated movie that DIDN'T use any CGI. The first movie they used it in was for fog and smoke effects in "The Black Cauldron", released in 1985, 4 years after this one. The first movie Disney used extensive CGI in was for the clock gear scene in "The Great Mouse Detective", released in 1986.
Unless you count 1982't Tron in the mix, but that wasn't specifically Disney Animation, even though some shots were hand animated.
That being said, CG Animation was barely out of the womb at the time. They couldn't even see WHAT they had animated without rendering it for hours and hoping they didn't make a mistake.
Originally, Chief was to be killed by the train and therefore justify Copper's revenge on Tod. However, for the same reasons as Trusty, the producers decided it would be too intense for kids, so they had Chief survive with a broken leg instead.
For me as a child a broken leg seemed bad enough. it was the worset injury I could imagine.
@@sawanna508too intense!??? Besides everything else 😂
Love this movie btw
It's very amazing that both Todd and Copper saved each other from that bear. Now that is a true friendship.
I was scared if one of them wouldn't survived from that black bear because when I was a kid that bear was humongous I was so terrified how can a fox best a black bear
Yes it is although Tod and Copper were supposed to be enemies!
Despite how scary some of the scenes can be for young kids as it was for me when I was one, I still really appreciate how they didn't 'dumb down' or soften the edges and kept the story and animation mature and true to life. If this were made today I have no doubt half the scenes here would've been scrapped and the other half would've been watered down and "kiddified". I miss animation and storytelling like this.
Me too. These are good animations from them.
I LOVE the scene where they just fight
like there was no cheesy dialogue or anything out of the ordinary
they just see each other, lock eyes and go wild
I always thought this was symbolic that friendships don’t always last forever like we think they will when we are kids doesn’t mean we are bad people just going on different paths in life.
This movie is the reason my favorite animal are Fox’s. But the emotional trauma 😭 with his mom dying in the beginning, dropping Todd off in the forest, and then the friendship with Copper. By far this is my most emotional movie growing up but I couldn’t stop going back to it
I enjoy this Disney film. The tale of how two unlikely animals end up becoming friends and having to put their friendship to the test as adults is very interesting. Plus, I appreciate the comedy relief provided by Dinky, Boomer, and Squeaks. The Fox and the Hound is a fun and emotionally engaging film imo, a wonderful Disney classic.
Just like me and my friend. My friend was the cool kid and I was the nerd.
If I had to pick the one Disney animation that's guaranteed to make me cry, this one is it. It doesn't matter how many times I've seen this; when it gets to the lady taking Tod to the preserve, I'm sobbing during her monologue. But the story itself even stands up today in what it shows: kids don't have any judgements and make friends with anyone, they're TAUGHT to judge and act certain ways to certain people. But they are also capable of still acting on their own personal feelings, if given the chance.
This film was the final Disney animated film, that Frank Thomas and Ollie Johnston, two members of Walt Disney's original "Nine Old Men" had worked on before their departure in 1978, it also was the first Disney animated film to bring in the next generation of directors and animators, which included John Lasseter, Ron Clements, John Musker, Glen Keane, Tim Burton, Brad Bird, Henry Selick, Chris Buck, Mike Gabriel, and Mark Dindal, all of whom would finalize the animation and complete the film's production. Those new animators especially Ron Clements and John Musker would play an important role in the Disney Renaissance of the 1980s and 1990s.
This was really one of the last films that had any involvement from the remaining "Nine Old Men" of Disney's golden age who I believe retired early in the production, and so the animation torch was passed on to the next generation of young directors and animators including: John Lasseter, John Musker, Brad Bird, Ron Clements, and Tim Burton
The bear scene was an early example of Glen Keane's stellar work before he later became a lead animator mainstay of the Disney Renaissance, e.g. Ariel, Aladdin, Beast, Tarzan, and others. Somewhere on youtube (hopefully the footage is still around) there's a behind the scenes bit where he flips his sketches of the moment Todd leaps onto that bear. His artistry is incredible and really showed the dynamism and intensity of the moment
Easily one of my favorite Bronze Age films as a kid and literally no Disney animated film (besides Bambi) had made me cry and I just can’t get over the scene where Widow Tweed had to let go of Todd and dropping him off in the forest, just the tears man.🦊🐶😭
Thanks for the reaction and looking forward to your reaction of _The Aristocats_ next week.🐱
That scene is the reason I named my first dog Todd. Kills me every time
32:23 Good ear! The porcupine in this movie was voiced by John Fiedler, who also voiced Piglet in Disney's "Winnie the Pooh", as well as Parson Owl in "The Rescuers." Chief was voiced by veteran Western actor Pat Buttram, who also voiced Napoleon the dog in "The Aristocats", the Sheriff of Nottingham in "Robin Hood" and Luke the muskrat in "The Rescuers".
Fiedler was also Sexton Mouse in _Robin Hood_ and Rudy (the old guy who "threw off" Kuzco’s Groove) in _The Emperor’s New Groove._
Also Paul Winchell who voices Boomer the Woodpecker in the film was the voice of Tigger.
40:55 You can see the bear's eyes go from "Get away from my den" to "Now you're going to die"
I really like James and Nobu discussing the intricacies of animation processes and show their appreciation for techniques. Keep it up guys!
I loved this movie as a child! Made me sob every time. Oh, if you're doing older Disney film reactions it would be amazing if you considered Great Mouse Detective. Not only is it my favorite Disney film, but one of my all-time favorites as well.
Me too.
Yes, they should watch Great Mouse Detective.
Agreed, an excellent underrated Disney classic.
This movie is all old heart. For me he is a heartwarming piece. Traditional classical animation has a sense of depth and authenticity that modern computer 3D animation does not have. I love everything about this movie, the old fashioned style, the animation, the music, and the beautiful backgrounds of the Pennsylvania-New England landscapes.
Hit the nail on the head, though I think Appalachia is closer to the mark
The landscapes in the US in these countries are very similar. Everything is taken as inspiration. I don't think it's one specific place - it's a mosaic of parts and regions of the US that were the inspiration for the film. The state of Pennsylvania is associated with the writer Daniel P. Mannix, it is assumed that the Nobel is based there. But the Appalachia bridge can also be part of the set, certainly.
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This is one of the most emotional Disney Animated film because Tod and Copper started off as best friends when they were young, but sadly fate had other plans for them. It's sad to see Tod and Copper as enemies during the third act. Love your reactions! And hopefully you guys watch The Great Mouse Detective someday!
In the book version, Chief does die and he was planned to in earlier stages but it was changed to him surviving with a broken leg which does diminish the reason for Copper and Amos to get revenge on Tod.
For a long time it was speculated that there was a conflict between the older animators (some of the Nine Old Men like Ollie Johnston, Frank Thomas and producer/director Wolfman Reitherman) and the younger ones (such as Glen Keane and John Lasseter, yes, one of the former heads of Pixar and director of Toy Story 1 and 2, A Bug's Life and Cars 1 and 2) on the disagareement whever Cheif should die or not (the older animators wanted Cheif to survive because of they thought it would be traumatic to kids, the younger ones wanted Chief to die for a better story). However, not too long ago, a RUclipsr interviewed Jerry Reeves, the director of Brave Little Toaster and many Disney World attractions such as Cranium Command and ExtraTERRORestial: Alien Encounter, as well as the surpervisor animator on Space Jam. He revealed this wasn't the case, it was a demand from the higher ups of Disney (the producers and board members) that Chief shouldn't die, to play safe with the audience. Another note from them was to not show Tod's mom get shot as to show that she might have survived (though, in my opinion, this doesn't work out and even if it's more implied that she died, I think it's too obvious she didn't survive or she would have come back for Tod, which would have made the whole thing with Widow Tweed to adopt him being redundant).
Alot of the voices you'll hear in this movie have been used across the board in early Disney movies... For instance Chief voice was also used in Robinhood! The scene where the woman drops Todd off is why i have trust issues and why i got in assisting rescues because she set him up for failure ahe assumes his instincts would kick in but his fear of people is gone being hand raised by one!! So in reality todd would die!!
The woodpecker was the same voice as Tigger
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the “goodbye may seem forever” scene still ALWAYS makes me cry instantly
For the longest time, that bear was the scariest thing I've ever seen in a movie. As a kid, I got seriously frightened when it showed up. They really did a good job of making that thing huge and terrifying. And it's not really a very big part of the movie.
As an adult that bear is still terrifying 😂
TBH, they did a great job as well with the music to make this scene even more frightening than it was, actually...😅
True also because of the red eyes. -But "Sharptooth" In Land before Time scared me even more. It was the first movie were I had to look away for a couple of minutes.
Give Watership Down a watch. It's an animated movie from the 80's that traumatised an entire generation 😅
I'll be honest : I know this movie since I was a kid, one of the few I watched over and over back then. But then farewell scene with the old lady...man, it always hits very hard. I already have teary eyes thinking about it.
This movie makes me cry so much. The car scene, the end scene where Copper stands up for Todd, the very end where they have the kid voices again reaffirming that they're friends forever, no matter what. It gets me every time.
On a different note, that bear is the reason that I was afraid of the dark. Just a big black shape with red eyes and teeth suddenly appearing *shudders*. You guys were talking about how cool it looked, and I'm a full adult and it still scared me. Nope, nope, nope.
Somehow, this movie was still one of my favorites and I love that y'all reacted to it!
I love this movie so much! The scene where the woman dropped Todd off in the woods used to make me cry as a kid. It’s such a beautiful movie about an unlikely friendship
31:08 me too.
Lol I never cried as a kid but I'm absolutely sobbing now
The Sword in the Stone from 1963 has to be on your list eventually. It's one of my fav older Disney animated films. This film is such a classic!
It doesn't matter if she raised the fox as a pet or raised him to be released. You NEVER take an animal to an unfamiliar place and drop them off! Not even a wild animal. They won't know the food, water, shelter, dangers, or even who has claimed that territory and will fight for it. They can't learn all those things in the 2-3 days it would take to survive. It's a death sentence. 🦊
This movie broke my heart over and over as a little girl and even as an adult I will cry like a baby
It’s sad because it’s about friends whom did not know that they were supposed to be enemies.
Super excited on your upcoming reaction to one of Disney’s most dramatic and heartbreaking animated films and I’m so excited that you’ll be reacting to _The Aristocats_ next week one of my favorite Bronze Age Disney films.
I definitely recommend during your Disney animated movie reactions I highly recommend both you and Nobu react to the remaining Disney animated classics _The Sword in the Stone, The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, The Rescuers_ & _The Rescuers Down Under, Oliver & Company, Pocahontas, Bambi, Dumbo, Fantasia/Fantasia 2000_ and _The Great Mouse Detective_
They need to continue the theme with 101 Dalmatians, Aristocats, and Oliver & Company. Can’t go wrong with Homeward Bound either.
YES!!
Oliver and company’s songs are top not h and aristocats has such fun character dynamics.
They already watched 101 Dalmatians, but the others are good picks.
I grew up with this movie as a VHS when i was young. It taught me so much when i think back to it now. Awesome to see animators thoroughly enjoying it
Me too.
"Tod get the gun!" He's still a fox 😂
When I was 5 years old, my mom found me sobbing to this movie in my grandma's office. Grandma always comforted me. Every time I see references from this movie, it takes me back to memories of my grandma and her love.
Copper is voiced by Kurt Russell.
As in Adult Copper. Corey Feldman voiced Young Copper.
The scene where she had to drop Todd off in the forest was and still is the scene that pulls on my heart strings more than any other scene in any other Disney movie it’s the saddest scene ever. I can still ball my eyes out over this whole scene & music 😭
Jesus, my heart melts whenever I hear 11:08. So cute, I've loved his little pup howl ever since I watched this as a child. Copper is so adorable as a puppy. Even so, Todd was always my favorite, such a handsome little fox. I love their friendship, and how they protect each other even though it's against their natures.
I actually tend to love movies that show a relationship that has a bittersweet ending and doesn’t last forever… I love happy endings too! But I’m learning so many relationships in our lives can’t be lifelong. And those relationships still hold such beauty for what they will always mean to us. I struggle with letting go of friendships especially and I feel like these movies help me see the goodness of letting go. It’s still painful, but it’s also sweet and meaningful. Those movies bring a different type of comfort to me and I really love a tear-felt goodbye. Great reaction y’all!!
I've loved this movie my whole life. So adorable. 💕
Me too
22:20 Just so you know, there is an interview on RUclips with the animator who invested the new way to animate the birds in this movie. Don't think RUclips would let me link it here, but I could tell you the video name and the Channel, if you're interested.
EDIT: Woops. Meant "invented", though I'm sure they invested their creativity in it too. XD
The Fox and the Hound is my all-time favorite Disney movie, and the only Disney movie that makes me cry every time. Their ending, not being able to be together at the end, was so sad for me as a little kid. Now, when I watch it, it makes me remember the friends that I have lost along the way of my life.
This movie definitely has a special place in my heart! The way I would sob every time Todd was dropped off in the woods 😭
Not a single Disney movie ever made me cry more than this one. LION king was close but when Copper saves Todd…..nothing but water works. I’m a 50 year old man and I can admit it.
They had barely started using CGI at this point and only sparingly. You'd be surprised what a skilled animator could without computers. Check out the backgrounds in Sleeping Beauty.
My favorite Disney movie!! I cry every time😩 thank you for reacting to it!
The ending of the movie made me cry.
Man I miss old disney: back when they put overwhelmingly impressive effort in their animation, back when their writing was wholesome without some arbitrary agenda, back when the characters were realistic with common sense and critical thinking, back when they left important details unsaid to hit harder once you recognized the implications, and back when they unapologetically highlighted overlooked harsh truths of life.
Did you hear the disney remake of bambi is not going to have his mothers death scene?! They say it would be too upsetting to children, I think kids need this type of trauma because it helps develop a healthy mentality to the reality of the world.
According to Wikipedia the first western animated film to use CGI was Rock and Rule which was released in 1983 - its worth watching by the way and not a children's movie.
When you watch The Secret of NIMH (1982) keep in mind that it was released only one year after the Fox and the Hound which is crazy when you compare the (non-CGI) animation affects and style.
0:16 to 0:22 is me straight up. Born in 2001, I was right there between VCRs and DVD players, and to this day, I still own and watch a lot of movies on VHS tapes, and I LOVED watching this movie as a kid, and even today think it's a really underrated Disney movie. I just never hear people mention it when talking about Disney movies.
Every time without fail, I get misty eyed when she drops Todd off and Copper turns his back on him. First, I thought about that being my pet. It hurt. Second, I get teary because I know how much it hurt Copper because he grew very close to him while they were hunting and there was a distance between him and his friend. So good. I got it even as a kid.
Recommend Rock-a-doodle, An American Tail, and The Great Detective
You guys reacted to 101 dalmations a year ago and you loved it. You loved the design of Cruella Devil and loved that the dogs (with the twilight bark) all pitched in to save the puppies. It's great to see you reviewing this one! You should do Aristocats next!
This film gets me crying like a baby every time
Love that they mention the music. It is a Mandolin! you have to remember before the surge of rock in the 70's and 80's. Folk and country music was the most popular music in US period. So a lot of these classics like Bambi, Fox and the Hound, etc. all had a feel to them of the country lifestyle and included well known voice actors who were known for their country drawl. Characters from Green Acres and He Haw we're instantly recognizable. It was something all the parents of the children watching could connect with. Nowadays a lot of people have never even been camping or visited the rural areas. Bluegrass and folk music is almost a lost art form. Which is why a lot of modern kids movies have to really cram a lot of stuff into the movie to hit with a broad audience.
0:21 “I realize I wasn’t the vcr generation” Holy shit you just made me feel ancient. I saw this at the drive-in theater in ‘81 💀
The smear frames on Dinky's animation were a stroke of genius, and made him so much more finch-like.
His animator, Jerry Rees, was told not to use that technique, but he was still able to sneak them in after the keyframes were approved.
ah the few movies that's my childhood comfort movie and simultaneously the source of my childhood GRIEF. Regardless, loved reliving it with you guys.
My sister’s patronus is a basset hound and her best friend’s patronus is a fox. So, Fox and the Hound is their thing and they constantly buy each other merch from this movie. It’s so cute!
This movie gets me every time 🥺😢
Me too
I was 4 years old when this came out and I saw it at the drive-in. And I remembered crying a lot. So sad.
Oh no this movie made me cry and I didn't even watch it when I was a little kid, but like later on, when I was like 14. Great adaptation, though definitely more light hearted than the book, if you can believe that.
This was one of my favorite movies when I was small. I was around 6 when this came out but still loved it. It still makes me cry every time I watch it.
I'm so glad that you shared your reaction to this film. Aside to the obvious "we can love each other when we're fundamentally different " message, this makes me think of the countless videos of different species reuniting after they bonded in at least one party's formative years: the recognition and the affection are there, but you wouldn't live in their territory or with their pack. Yet another example of the dark and brutal source material being shaped into a lovely and palatable story.
You guys are officially one of the best reaction channels ever bro love this movie so much!
This was one of my favorite Disney movies as a kid (I WAS in the VCR generation, but the movie was re-released in theaters before it was released on VHS). While it's dark, gritty and mature compared to most Disney fare, it's pure sweetness and light compared to the 1967 novel it's based on. Aside from its artistic value, this movie also gave the world the gift of the Don Bluth cartoon movies from the 1980s and 90s. Bluth worked for Disney until this movie was in production. He wanted to stay closer to the book, which would have meant making it MUCH darker than it is (can you imagine a Disney film being "much darker"?) but the surviving members of Walt's original animation team who were still in charge of the studio at the time flatly refused. Bluth then left to form his own studio, taking many of the younger animators with him. They went on to make "The Secret of N.I.M.H.", "An American Tail", "The Land Before Time" and "All Dogs go to Heaven", which I enjoyed just as much as the films Disney was making.
The original book ends with the main characters all dieing. In the hunters vengeance he killed off the world he knew over time, selling land to developers of a local suburbanite and by tge time they got the fox, the woods he knew where built out of existence and the animals that were once in the area replaced by people. This is an alternative take where the hunter doesn't hunt tod till the end of his days.
My parents took me to see this in the movies. Apparently, it left a big impression on me, but I haven't seen it in 40 years. Good to see you react to it
You guys need to watch The Land Before Time.
I wish they would just say its a reupload. They say they haven't watched 101 Dalmations but they watched it a year ago so it has to be a reupload.
I loved this movie as a kid. I watched it over and over and over again. There was something just so comforting about the animation and the way the kid versions of Tod and Copper talked to each other. I always cried when she let Tod go. Even hearing her inner monologue here made me tear up.
Everyone needs a wing man like big mama, she legit got Todd a woman 😎
The 1st time I've saw this was when I was in elementary school like 2nd Grade. I loved it. Such a great story and sad
When Copper started legitimately hunting Tod, it didn't feel like Copper. I knew he was Copper, but I knew that he was not playing around. The way Copper moved also felt different. Like it was on pure instinct. Same with Tod. It felt as if both Tod and I stopped seeing Copper and instead seeing a threat they had to get away with.
I'm all grown up and I still bawl at the scene where Tod is left alone in the forest. Maybe I just love animals too much, maybe it's my own abandonment issues or just the fact that I can't stand the thought of an innocent soul feeling alone and lost but ugh, I cried just watching this reaction video while preparing my lessons for tomorrow, let alone if I decided to watch the whole movie.
The opening is just like Bambi.
I think this was the last Disney film that used a game hunter as an antagonist, due to Disney subverting hunting culture for a couple decades and receiving negative responses from hunting communities. From then on most hunter villains were poachers, profiteers, and wranglers (Clayton from Tarzan, Alameda Slim from Hone on the Range, and McLeach from Rescuers Down Under).
That's actually quite a genius way for Disney to have their cake and eat it. As far as kids are concerned, they get it. They don't care if an animal is hunted, poached, or wrangled - They KNOW each way is cruel.
When all those layers on a landscape are moving to give it a 3D effect, the word you're looking for is "multi-plane camera".
The trick Todd uses to throw Copper off his scent (just before the bear shows up) is the same trick he used back in the beginning when they were playing hide-and-seek
Have they done Robin Hood? Just wanted to point out Chief's VA also did the Sherrif of Nottingham.
Something cool to note is that the Sheriff's VA and Little John's VA have acted together in a lot of movies. One example, they were both in Rock-A-Doodle.
One of the few movies that always makes me cry.
Thank you guys for reacting to one of my childhood favorites! I was 6 years old in the summer of 1981 when the film was released and it traumatized me for some time. I haven't seen it in ages. I loved Mama Owl. She was awesome. This is one of your best reactions.
Amos was voiced by Jack Albertson who played Grandpa Joe in Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory
Wow, you're really going through the classics.
You were right; apparently, this was the first Disney animated feature to use CG. This was one of my favorites when I was a kid! I watched that VHS so many times!
The ending still hits 😢😭
Ohh this movie is why I thought bears were way bigger than they are
And maybe Balto..
That is Piglet! Nice catch! The voice actor for Cheif also plays the Honorable Sherrif of Nottingham in Robin Hood!
YES bravo another emotional childhood movie!
Glen Keane was the supervising animator for much of the film's final act. From the moment when Tod wakes up in the tree panicking, he looks and moves much more like a Disney Renaissance character.
in answer to your question about CGI. 1981 was way to early for them to have CG for anything. they actually started on it back in 77 They may have roto-scoped over actual film footage, but they certainly didn't have the CG at the time to make a car that was animated realistically.
Oh man this is one of those movies that you cry no matter what, thank you for the reaction. If you ever get the chance take a look at the animation Strange Magic, it has a amazing sound track and is funny!