It seems to me that for a true test, you should have the same type blades on all of the saws. I would like to see this test again done with the same type of blades.
It depends on operator as well how much pressure put on saw and need equal amount of water, the middle ones the most water everytime the hose made its pass from left to right.
Cool test. I kinda figured the larger blade would win.....more surface area to cut with. Never heard of a solo saw. Have ran wacker/husky saws the last 20+yrs. Stihl saws used to have horrible air filter systems (not sure if they have changed their design)and would eat a set of rings pretty quickly so I quit using stihl concrete saws for that reason.
curious how you felt the power of the Makita 4 Stroke was. I just got one for my concrete work. Everyone on reviews keep saying it lacks power and isn't worth the money.
In my opinion they didn't guide the tool the same, I saw one appear to apply force and the newest tools guide, he was chilling. He actually started his cut last and allowed the tool to do most of the work and didn't even apply much pressure.
And what did we learn from this? Nothing logic couldn't have told us. Bigger saw + bigger blade = cut faster. This can't be used for comparison sake for mainly two reasons: different user = different pressure on the saw and technique; we don't know which saws were warmed up ahead of time - colder saws have less power. I'm not saying this is a terrible video by any means - thanks for taking the time to post it - I simply wanted to point out that one shouldn't draw conclusions on these saws/blades based on these results.
I own Husqvarna 16" I use it for concrete slab (cuts from 2 ft long to 100ft) and is really pain to use it. Saw starts in the morning with no problem guys are working for 1h-2h and after that is impossible to start. We have to put this saw on the side and when you will come back to this saw 40 min later sometimes this saw will start sometimes we have to wait a little longer. I own Stihl 14" as well and is working all day no problem. When Husqvarna 16" is working I like this saw better than Stihl. BTW Water "system" fail on my Husqvarna after few months and saw is not even 1year old. We use same ready mix for both saws. One is working all day another half (if we are lucky). In Husqvarna service they told me nothing is wrong because saw starts and they can't help me.
NewEra might want to set the Low carb jet a bit leaner and keep air filter clean. If it's not that it's the coil, I own a tree service and husky saws suck at hot starts/hot weather. They flood most of the time but I've had coil failures as well.
Great video and information about the saws. Interesting that you don't like Stihls at all, #1 name but not the #1 saw for you or me. Great information about the Makita and K750/760 for the different applications. BUT you used three different blades and put the slowest cutting and lowest cost blade (lower diamond concentration) on the Solo. Plus the Fury is a soft bond compared to a combo blade (medium/hard) like the All-American. Thanks for the info.
try doing this test over allowing somebody more aggressive to use the solo, the guy who used it is too passive, in addition he started last, he is watching everybody else, it's like waiting for permission. also it would not be a Fair test if all the blades are not the same. as we all know the quality of blades does make a difference.
you are right, there is no any sign or someone who give the instruction when the cutting process would be start so it is clear that the competition not fair enough.
great video for a working man keep up the good work would you go with a 970 or the bigger 1260 or whatever it is, I am doing a lot of granite work on big stones that are to thick for a 14" blade
I watched this because I'm interested in getting one of these saws for sidewalk repair. I already have a SDS maximum drill. I was told most of these saws use a 32:1 mix ratio. Are they like chainsaws where they have a decompression start? 🐀🐾
They didn't all start at the same time. Also looks like there's just 2 different kind of blades. Those husqvarna 760 are petty good though. I've seen many sold.
My stihl ts400 and 420 with a guardian 14 inch blades cuts those curbs faster. Weird. I thought they would have been much faster. Ive never used or seen any of those saws cut. But great educational video! Cheers from Concrete Creations of Windsor. Maybe see you at next years world of concrete!
Stellar diamond consulting is my business and we have been selling blades for over 20 years. Call me and I will ask you a few questions and provide the longest lasting blades that will cut the fastest and save you the most money. 760-565-8071 or shoot me an email stellarconsultingbf@gmail.com
These are the blades in use in the test. dtiblades.com AND they are made in USA!!! Don't listen to that guy below...saw blade salesmen are the worst liars ever! I have not put together my final thoughts for this brand yet...but that video is coming.
Dude- Your not making self proclaimed statements on this channel. You can either put your money where your mouth is and send us some blades for review, and we will give our unbiased opinions- or your comment will be removed because your just trying to promote yourself on this channel without credibility.
I will let my blades do the talking for me. Give me an address and I will send you one free to compare to what your using now. Track the linear inch feet and you will see my blade will last longer and save you money. stellarconsultingbf@gmail.com is my email or give me a call 760-565-8071
As I stated 3 years ago - given that I know these blades very well ..... Great video and information about the saws. Interesting that you don't like Stihls at all, #1 name but not the #1 saw for you or me. Great information about the Makita and K750/760 for the different applications. BUT you used three different blades and put the slowest cutting and lowest cost blade (lower diamond concentration) on the Solo - The Old Glory is a 30 Bond GP Blade. Plus the Fury is a soft bond compared to a combo blade (medium/hard) like the All-American. Thanks for the info. A contest or comparison like this should have all factors the same. If you had put the Fury on the Solo it probably would have finished first.
Husqvarna 970 holds a 16" blade. While it's still the clear winner, in this test it seems to be turning a larger blade. More cutting surface equals faster cuts. Not a fair demonstration
More cutting surface is perhaps one part in it, but to me the largest difference is the edge speed. With a bigger blade rotating at the same RPM (don't actually know if the RPM is the same) the cutting edge will be travelling faster and will therefore remove more material.
Ezzynation yes they are by far! Husqvarna are absolute rubbish. I've used partner, makita, stihl and solo over the past 15 years and stihl run rings around the rest. They've always cut faster, the hose fittings last longer, easier to start and serviceability is better.
Ive done concrete and masonry 45 yrs i have 5-14" saws...Full throttle is not always faster when cutting and water will make no difference it only keeps dust down a dry cut will always be faster than a wet cut.. Your blade representative will verify what I'm saying.
since I was a kid the two machines that have given us problem are hot saws and jumping jacks. it takes a seriously well built saw to handle concrete and rebar in large scale operations. Stihl 500 m-tronic is the best saw on the market to date. The new Hilti is a close second, but it just runs to rich brand new and you better turn it down or they last about one year with moderate use. let's not talk about the old crap. Having a m-tronic is great for vapor lock and plugged air filter.
@@SpYucaipaSoCal I've honestly had the exact opposite experience. We lay concrete storm line everyday and have/use both the ts420 and the hooskie 760/770, everyone goes for the huskies first, every time. They are much lighter and the anti vibe is vastly superior to the stihl. Our jobsite opinions ofc.
Not sure what all the finger pointing was about just skipped over the vid with the sound off was hoping to see the looks of all 4 cuts not just the first one. Thanks
We do a lot of concrete work and I use three saws and you did not test a single one????? Stihl is best, hilti second, and Partner 3rd for us. I use an electric for small jobs 12" evolution and its been going for over 5 years now.
I'm not a fan of the old partners saws, I'd take a stihl any day over one. But new saws? Husky all the way. The new stihls seem too highly strung, much like most modern equipment.
Silica dust, you know the OSHA new rule? no dust collector no constant tuning water and world of the concrete is what they talked about since last year
That’s super scary just the whistle that makes really creeps the GBG be out of me just like instead of Texas chainsaw guy, leather face carrying a chainsaw. He’s carrying a concrete cutter.
Not to mention first saw that one got most of the water you kept going back to him more time on his side I know you guys are trying to do some stuff to help people but be a realistic about it all Cutters got to use the same motion we all know that the motion of the saw is what helps the blade cut through faster amount of water as a factor amount of time on the Broken Blade new blades don't cut it aggressive is one that might have already had 5 or 6 10 cats on it blah blah blah clean your tools thanks for the video
Is this the actual RUclips channel for this guy looking at the other videos doesn't really seem like it is just wondering because I was thinking about subscribing but if it's all those random videos probably not
4 strokes will never be first...2 stroke will dominate always...same thing with weed eaters.A2 stroke 250 dirt bike creates almost as much hp as a 450 4 stroke...thats why u can race them together..2 stroke dirt bike will also have twice the torque than a 4 stroke will...guys always think the opposite..dyno it or just google it.True
All you guys as Tools looks hammered ever thought about cleaning them with the pressure washer taking care of them on the outside are you guys just used to cut off the breeze buildup on them like you don't give a hell about your tools damn come on man take care of your s*** there's more to it than just changing the filter
No real fkn concrete cutter would ever use a saw like that for long cuts. Use a real eletric saw instead that dont cut your head off. Husqvarna 16 amp is the real deal
Sorry this video sucks. Fist off you said every popular brand is here... Stihl isn't, and despite what I have read in the comments about this or that they are still one of the most popular saws out there. Second you said you had some 90%+ success rate with your saws, and then went on to list off problems. Out of six Husqvarna saws there you said one failed twice which is actually a 17% fail rate just for it breaking once, leaving me wondering where the 90% came from (but you know, 89% of percentages are made up on spot or was it 75%... wait 90%). Third the saws clearly have different blades on them so the is not a head to head and is immediately left one of the saws at a disadvantage, and even if they are the same size price an use they still aren't the same making this test inconclusive. OH Yeah, and the reason Stihl is better is because they have certified service centers to fix the equipment at, and from personal experience Husqvarna does not and parts can be hard to find. All in all you just wasted my time and the time of everyone else who saw this video by not taking your time and not being consistent. Thank you
Let me say something People like you or the video maker they are all dumb asses , More than 16 Year’s in masonry business In my experience if you do your work professionally and take care of all your tools clean and store in a manner You should be expecting to cut anything with you saw Doesn’t matter witch brand you use The end bastards
Harrison Clark hey just saw lol your comment guess what nobody fucking cares buddy and oh ya why don’t you shut the fuck up stupid with your percentages what are you a fucking smart guy putting your comments/opinions where nobody gives a fuck dumbass don’t quit your day job ya bum
It seems to me that for a true test, you should have the same type blades on all of the saws. I would like to see this test again done with the same type of blades.
I second that on the guy operating the Solo was timid. I knew two seconds in he would lose.
Oh man, that silica dust hurts me just from watching
The 16 will always win the extra circumference gives you more cutting capacity and speed by having more Diamond
It depends on operator as well how much pressure put on saw and need equal amount of water, the middle ones the most water everytime the hose made its pass from left to right.
Cool test. I kinda figured the larger blade would win.....more surface area to cut with. Never heard of a solo saw. Have ran wacker/husky saws the last 20+yrs. Stihl saws used to have horrible air filter systems (not sure if they have changed their design)and would eat a set of rings pretty quickly so I quit using stihl concrete saws for that reason.
100% Agree with everything you said.
Km not in the concrete ik industry so excuse my question.
Do this blades cut through the rebar in the concrete?
Same blade/disc? Are solo any good? Also can you get parts like you can Stihl n husqy. K760 all day for speed n quick start. Stihl ts400 as a back up.
curious how you felt the power of the Makita 4 Stroke was. I just got one for my concrete work. Everyone on reviews keep saying it lacks power and isn't worth the money.
In my opinion they didn't guide the tool the same, I saw one appear to apply force and the newest tools guide, he was chilling. He actually started his cut last and allowed the tool to do most of the work and didn't even apply much pressure.
Yeah you should let tool do cut
And what did we learn from this? Nothing logic couldn't have told us. Bigger saw + bigger blade = cut faster.
This can't be used for comparison sake for mainly two reasons: different user = different pressure on the saw and technique; we don't know which saws were warmed up ahead of time - colder saws have less power. I'm not saying this is a terrible video by any means - thanks for taking the time to post it - I simply wanted to point out that one shouldn't draw conclusions on these saws/blades based on these results.
Make your own video then.
I have a multiquip sidewinder 62. I wonder how it would stack up
Love the sound when they all start up!! keep making the video!!
I have had the same Stihl saw for about 16 years, I wouldn't use anything else, I like the idea of bigger blades though!
I own Husqvarna 16" I use it for concrete slab (cuts from 2 ft long to 100ft) and is really pain to use it. Saw starts in the morning with no problem guys are working for 1h-2h and after that is impossible to start. We have to put this saw on the side and when you will come back to this saw 40 min later sometimes this saw will start sometimes we have to wait a little longer. I own Stihl 14" as well and is working all day no problem. When Husqvarna 16" is working I like this saw better than Stihl. BTW Water "system" fail on my Husqvarna after few months and saw is not even 1year old. We use same ready mix for both saws. One is working all day another half (if we are lucky). In Husqvarna service they told me nothing is wrong because saw starts and they can't help me.
NewEra might want to set the Low carb jet a bit leaner and keep air filter clean. If it's not that it's the coil, I own a tree service and husky saws suck at hot starts/hot weather. They flood most of the time but I've had coil failures as well.
Great video and information about the saws. Interesting that you don't like Stihls at all, #1 name but not the #1 saw for you or me. Great information about the Makita and K750/760 for the different applications. BUT you used three different blades and put the slowest cutting and lowest cost blade (lower diamond concentration) on the Solo. Plus the Fury is a soft bond compared to a combo blade (medium/hard) like the All-American. Thanks for the info.
what are the blade differences ?
try doing this test over allowing somebody more aggressive to use the solo, the guy who used it is too passive, in addition he started last, he is watching everybody else, it's like waiting for permission.
also it would not be a Fair test if all the blades are not the same.
as we all know the quality of blades does make a difference.
Shawn kim 7
The first finisher worked his blade more also
you are right, there is no any sign or someone who give the instruction when the cutting process would be start so it is clear that the competition not fair enough.
great video for a working man keep up the good work
would you go with a 970 or the bigger 1260 or whatever it is, I am doing a lot of granite work on big stones that are to thick for a 14" blade
Nathan McIntosh ww
Wacker any good?
I love em. Been using them since about 2002ish
The guys right about the 970 . Awesome saw but somethin is absolutely causing the motors to fail prematurely
I watched this because I'm interested in getting one of these saws for sidewalk repair. I already have a SDS maximum drill. I was told most of these saws use a 32:1 mix ratio. Are they like chainsaws where they have a decompression start? 🐀🐾
50:1 i have 5 saws like these...
You have quite an assemblage of saw to cut one parking block. It looks like you've already cut up the rest of the concrete in town.
I'm a die hard Makita guy but those 970s are great saws.
They didn't all start at the same time. Also looks like there's just 2 different kind of blades. Those husqvarna 760 are petty good though. I've seen many sold.
Not that thier was any Hilti's That Huskavarna 760 cheaper and faster that's my pick
Where is wacker neuson and stihl?
My stihl ts400 and 420 with a guardian 14 inch blades cuts those curbs faster. Weird. I thought they would have been much faster. Ive never used or seen any of those saws cut. But great educational video! Cheers from Concrete Creations of Windsor. Maybe see you at next years world of concrete!
Did anyone notice the guy on the far left was moving his saw back and forth? Will cut faster.
That's how you have to do it
Hey what do you use for blades?
Stellar diamond consulting is my business and we have been selling blades for over 20 years. Call me and I will ask you a few questions and provide the longest lasting blades that will cut the fastest and save you the most money. 760-565-8071 or shoot me an email stellarconsultingbf@gmail.com
These are the blades in use in the test. dtiblades.com AND they are made in USA!!!
Don't listen to that guy below...saw blade salesmen are the worst liars ever!
I have not put together my final thoughts for this brand yet...but that video is coming.
Dude- Your not making self proclaimed statements on this channel. You can either put your money where your mouth is and send us some blades for review, and we will give our unbiased opinions- or your comment will be removed because your just trying to promote yourself on this channel without credibility.
I will let my blades do the talking for me. Give me an address and I will send you one free to compare to what your using now. Track the linear inch feet and you will see my blade will last longer and save you money. stellarconsultingbf@gmail.com is my email or give me a call 760-565-8071
did they ever review your blade?
As I stated 3 years ago - given that I know these blades very well .....
Great video and information about the saws. Interesting that you don't like Stihls at all, #1 name but not the #1 saw for you or me. Great information about the Makita and K750/760 for the different applications. BUT you used three different blades and put the slowest cutting and lowest cost blade (lower diamond concentration) on the Solo - The Old Glory is a 30 Bond GP Blade. Plus the Fury is a soft bond compared to a combo blade (medium/hard) like the All-American. Thanks for the info.
A contest or comparison like this should have all factors the same. If you had put the Fury on the Solo it probably would have finished first.
Husqvarna 970 holds a 16" blade.
While it's still the clear winner, in this test it seems to be turning a larger blade.
More cutting surface equals faster cuts.
Not a fair demonstration
More cutting surface is perhaps one part in it, but to me the largest difference is the edge speed. With a bigger blade rotating at the same RPM (don't actually know if the RPM is the same) the cutting edge will be travelling faster and will therefore remove more material.
Its all about power. The more you have the more pressure to the wheels you can apply.
Pls husqvarna 970 16 inch Motors Indian rate please price
why no sthil? they are much better than either of the other brands you have tested
no .. no they are not ..
Ezzynation yes they are by far! Husqvarna are absolute rubbish. I've used partner, makita, stihl and solo over the past 15 years and stihl run rings around the rest. They've always cut faster, the hose fittings last longer, easier to start and serviceability is better.
Really???? then wheres the video showing such evidence???
hilti, wacker neuson, speedy cut, dolmar??
UnderTenReviews the evidence is me actually using them in real life over 15 years
Ive done concrete and masonry 45 yrs i have 5-14" saws...Full throttle is not always faster when cutting and water will make no difference it only keeps dust down a dry cut will always be faster than a wet cut.. Your blade representative will verify what I'm saying.
could you respond my question which is the best blade. i already bought few of'em but it doesn't cut the way i'd like
What is a saw blade supposed t do for you? we are making a review of which blades last the longest very soon
Too much pressure on tool makes bannana cuts let weight of tool do work fonts force it trust me.
No stihls?? lol
what about Hilti
since I was a kid the two machines that have given us problem are hot saws and jumping jacks. it takes a seriously well built saw to handle concrete and rebar in large scale operations. Stihl 500 m-tronic is the best saw on the market to date. The new Hilti is a close second, but it just runs to rich brand new and you better turn it down or they last about one year with moderate use. let's not talk about the old crap. Having a m-tronic is great for vapor lock and plugged air filter.
Should of tested a STIHL
I agree. My ts420 blows my brothers K760 husky away. Way more power. Just got a ts700 and its a beast.
@@SpYucaipaSoCal I've honestly had the exact opposite experience. We lay concrete storm line everyday and have/use both the ts420 and the hooskie 760/770, everyone goes for the huskies first, every time. They are much lighter and the anti vibe is vastly superior to the stihl. Our jobsite opinions ofc.
I don’t know 🤔 could be maintenance issue here. Just saying, by the looks of the equipment.
This was test was balanced except the talent of the operators it clearly shows
I think not only time to cut but vibration, sound volume, weight to carry are all important in these kind of tests.
Love the sound!!!
Should have used the same blade on each saw for a more fair comparison. Great video though.
Not sure what all the finger pointing was about just skipped over the vid with the sound off was hoping to see the looks of all 4 cuts not just the first one. Thanks
The STIHL 410- 420 are notorious for their mufflers coming of almost every time, even when they have been used for about a week
And the carburetors are garbage
The new husqvarna k760 is the best overall..stihl is also excellent but not as strong
It's the technique that won this race tbh.
Cc3 ?
The downside off the makita is that you have the starter pully on the right side and you can't tilt it because it's a 4 stroker!
you can tilt it has a pressure lube system
BS, i had it upside down at WOC and full throttle
You can bud it's got the same oil lube setup that koenigsegg use in their HyperCars.
We do a lot of concrete work and I use three saws and you did not test a single one????? Stihl is best, hilti second, and Partner 3rd for us. I use an electric for small jobs 12" evolution and its been going for over 5 years now.
He put more water in first saw and least in last one.
I'm not a fan of the old partners saws, I'd take a stihl any day over one. But new saws? Husky all the way. The new stihls seem too highly strung, much like most modern equipment.
Where's Hilti?.. It would've spanked them all.
Love hilti
Hilti makes good tools, but not good saws :D
@@TheXnocf true
Put brand-new blades in em and I MIGHT trust your review
EXCELLENT VIDEO !!!
The only thing on test is the blade, makes no diff what spins it.
This is going to be excited video
The Solo got half as much cooling water as the rest.
Winner- Stihl Concrete Cut off
Silica dust, you know the OSHA new rule? no dust collector no constant tuning water and world of the concrete is what they talked about since last year
Efrain Tapia thank you. Teach these devils. Not enough water in the world tho. Wear the half face or don’t cut
That’s super scary just the whistle that makes really creeps the GBG be out of me just like instead of Texas chainsaw guy, leather face carrying a chainsaw. He’s carrying a concrete cutter.
Guys....
You have different blades on the saws.
whats up with that cant test like that
Not to mention first saw that one got most of the water you kept going back to him more time on his side I know you guys are trying to do some stuff to help people but be a realistic about it all Cutters got to use the same motion we all know that the motion of the saw is what helps the blade cut through faster amount of water as a factor amount of time on the Broken Blade new blades don't cut it aggressive is one that might have already had 5 or 6 10 cats on it blah blah blah clean your tools thanks for the video
But the solo started last!3:53
Man u can tell the guy on the solo wasn't pushing down as hard as the rest.
Yeah what about stihl
Keep convincing myself that I need one but remember i dont do concrete work at all
What a race 👌
Is this the actual RUclips channel for this guy looking at the other videos doesn't really seem like it is just wondering because I was thinking about subscribing but if it's all those random videos probably not
03:45 test starting
The middle ones
Huskavarna
Guy on end no safety glasses or I didnt see.
cool vid but dont you have to use all the same blades for a good test
Put the solo on the box back
4 strokes will never be first...2 stroke will dominate always...same thing with weed eaters.A2 stroke 250 dirt bike creates almost as much hp as a 450 4 stroke...thats why u can race them together..2 stroke dirt bike will also have twice the torque than a 4 stroke will...guys always think the opposite..dyno it or just google it.True
Hay q tener el cuenta el Factor Humano
Your crow and test aria looks like JANCK yard
Husqvarna not husqavarna // a swed
Ill put my vintage Felker fas cut up against any of these saws
what no heath and safety it would not be allow in Great Britain. come You tube you should really look at the safety aspect of these videos,
Hilti DSH 700 all the way!
Osha would love u guy first off no face shield second no dust mask
I like the Makita but sthil is just a power house
"iLube".... love it!!!
WE like it too!
I wouldnt even take Solo for Free. Give Hilti all day,everyday followind with Makita
Go at Minute 3:43
All you guys as Tools looks hammered ever thought about cleaning them with the pressure washer taking care of them on the outside are you guys just used to cut off the breeze buildup on them like you don't give a hell about your tools damn come on man take care of your s*** there's more to it than just changing the filter
Just Go with ICS.
No stihl no hilti,wtf?
Not an extra a in husqvarna
Not husq a varna
He wanted a good one thats why stihl not there!!
No real fkn concrete cutter would ever use a saw like that for long cuts. Use a real eletric saw instead that dont cut your head off. Husqvarna 16 amp is the real deal
Put a new blade on solo
What a load of crap if you have a poor quality blade it's going to take longer no matter what machine you use
Dolmar = Makita excellent.
Holy silica
i have sthil and husq same size the sthil 100% the husq 99% i think husq duplicate sthil technology
I think Husqvarna invented the gas power cutter...just saying.
Sorry this video sucks. Fist off you said every popular brand is here... Stihl isn't, and despite what I have read in the comments about this or that they are still one of the most popular saws out there. Second you said you had some 90%+ success rate with your saws, and then went on to list off problems. Out of six Husqvarna saws there you said one failed twice which is actually a 17% fail rate just for it breaking once, leaving me wondering where the 90% came from (but you know, 89% of percentages are made up on spot or was it 75%... wait 90%). Third the saws clearly have different blades on them so the is not a head to head and is immediately left one of the saws at a disadvantage, and even if they are the same size price an use they still aren't the same making this test inconclusive. OH Yeah, and the reason Stihl is better is because they have certified service centers to fix the equipment at, and from personal experience Husqvarna does not and parts can be hard to find. All in all you just wasted my time and the time of everyone else who saw this video by not taking your time and not being consistent. Thank you
Let me say something
People like you or the video maker they are all dumb asses ,
More than 16 Year’s in masonry business
In my experience if you do your work professionally and take care of all your tools clean and store in a manner
You should be expecting to cut anything with you saw
Doesn’t matter witch brand you use
The end bastards
Harrison Clark hey just saw lol your comment guess what nobody fucking cares buddy and oh ya why don’t you shut the fuck up stupid with your percentages what are you a fucking smart guy putting your comments/opinions where nobody gives a fuck dumbass don’t quit your day job ya bum
chris kalil same to u you fucking bum. Quit your online talking shit daily job and start pulling up at people's houses proving yourself