UNSOLVED Murder Mystery of the Civil Defence Caves

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  • Опубликовано: 19 ноя 2024

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  • @PinInTheAtlas
    @PinInTheAtlas  3 месяца назад +3

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  • @kenclifford5556
    @kenclifford5556 22 дня назад +4

    thanks for the cave visit and the interesting story.

  • @kenfarmer4938
    @kenfarmer4938 20 дней назад +2

    Loveless was one of my ancestors. My mother's maiden name is Loveless. She is from Burley Idaho the same city that the murdered man was from. Thanks for covering this site.

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  20 дней назад +2

      @@kenfarmer4938 wow that’s incredible and thank you so much for watching

  • @roseapple8786
    @roseapple8786 21 день назад +4

    Pretty cool cave. And the story you told that was a true story. Those darn hooligans with all that graffiti and trash they left behind. One day when they grow up, they will realize that they did wrong. Thank you for sharing and God Bless you and your family. Stay safe and I will see you on your next adventure. 🥰👍👍👍👍👍(🌹🐞🦂🌵)

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  21 день назад

      @@roseapple8786 unfortunately Rose most of that is done by adults (in age but not in mentality)

  • @normstephens8354
    @normstephens8354 22 дня назад +4

    Interesting explore and video! Back in my caving days ... Lechuguilla Cave was the cave I wanted to see the most, but lacked the skills and people connections to get into it. The National Park Service keeps it locked up for just the reasons you're seeing here. My old Grotto use to go to Carlsbad Caverns and help with the lint cleanup they have every year. It's amazing how much lint the thundering tourist thighs generate! The rocks you were crawling over came from the ceiling and had it been a mine ... there would have been bolts in the ceiling to keep it in place. You have to keep in mind when walking on the floor of a lava tube you are often also walking on the ceiling of the tube below it!

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  22 дня назад +2

      @@normstephens8354 there certainly are some amazing caves and caverns in the world. A dangerous hobby!

    • @normstephens8354
      @normstephens8354 21 день назад

      @@PinInTheAtlas Yep! The NSS publishes an cave accident report every year. Seems like most of the deaths are from some form of drowning, but then the wet caves tend to be the neatest around here! Swimming a hundred yards or so with just enough air space to breath tends to weed out the beer and graffiti crowd!

  • @richardbeee
    @richardbeee 22 дня назад +1

    Thanks!

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  22 дня назад +1

      @@richardbeee thank you 🙏 Richard

    • @richardbeee
      @richardbeee 22 дня назад

      @@PinInTheAtlas will call later.

  • @rhondaz356
    @rhondaz356 21 день назад +4

    WOW, no matter where you go, someone has already been there, and apparently felt the need to leave evidence of it.😔
    That is not an adventure for the weak of heart. The sheer darkness, the footing... YIKES.
    Thank you for giving us the history of the cave, Andrea and Steven. That was very interesting. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  21 день назад +2

      @@rhondaz356 you’re welcome Rhonda. Our ice cave adventure was more adventurous. Have you seen that one

    • @rhondaz356
      @rhondaz356 21 день назад +2

      @PinInTheAtlas YES, I remember that Andrea was separated from both of the guys...nerve-wracking, for sure...😵‍💫😵

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  21 день назад +2

      @ it was ok. One of my favourite explores

  • @RaymondCoggins-xd2re
    @RaymondCoggins-xd2re 21 день назад

    Another awesome adventure with my pin and beers cheers

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  21 день назад

      @@RaymondCoggins-xd2re cheers 🍻 Raymond

  • @Kris_at_WhiteOaksFarm
    @Kris_at_WhiteOaksFarm 21 день назад +1

    Lovely adventure, thanks for taking us. So sad about the trash and graffiti. If I were closer, I'd pay that cave a visit. It looks like something this seventy year old fart could enjoy without too much damage.

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  21 день назад +1

      @@Kris_at_WhiteOaksFarm 🤣70 is still young Kris

  • @SueCooke
    @SueCooke 21 день назад +1

    Hello my lovelies. It's been a long time. Wonderful to see you are still up and running. Hope you are both well? Much love xx

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  21 день назад

      @@SueCooke hello stranger. Hope everything is going well. Sounds like you have a lot to catch up with. ❤️

    • @SueCooke
      @SueCooke 21 день назад

      ​@PinInTheAtlas things have been a bit difficult these past 6 months. I've lost both my old Labradors & my dad passed away on 7th October. But, there is always someone worse off than yourself out there. Yep, definitely got LOTS to catch up on! Brilliant to see you on here still Andrea & Steve. Huge hugs ❤

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  21 день назад +2

      @ sorry to hear that Sue. I was wondering how your dad was doing.
      And I know the pain of losing the animals too. Sending you love ❤️ and hugs 🤗

    • @SueCooke
      @SueCooke 20 дней назад

      ​@PinInTheAtlas Thank you so much Andrea. I still have Toby Crazy Dog though! xx❤🤗🐾🐾

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  20 дней назад

      @ have to have one crazy 🤪 to keep you sane

  • @tinadelwiche416
    @tinadelwiche416 21 день назад +2

    It’s said to be haunted as well . Especially at night 😊. I don’t know if I’d stay the night. Still an unusual find. Halloween spook😊

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  21 день назад +2

      @@tinadelwiche416 maybe it’s the outlaw that haunts it!

    • @tinadelwiche416
      @tinadelwiche416 21 день назад +1

      @@PinInTheAtlas that’s what haunts it. You can actually hear something or someone walking around a night. It’s very strange and spooky

    • @tinadelwiche416
      @tinadelwiche416 21 день назад +1

      Is Steve afraid of the dark or haunted things

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  21 день назад +2

      @@tinadelwiche416 no he’s only afraid of spiders and heights

    • @tinadelwiche416
      @tinadelwiche416 21 день назад +1

      @@PinInTheAtlas so am i

  • @gaylewilliamson9183
    @gaylewilliamson9183 21 день назад

    cool cave sounds good,ots hot here in Okla.🤗👍❤️

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  21 день назад

      @@gaylewilliamson9183 stay cool Gayle

  • @johnmonaco1028
    @johnmonaco1028 21 день назад +1

    Dave is Cool!

  • @lesleyrobbins1137
    @lesleyrobbins1137 21 день назад +1

    Perfect place for a Halloween haunted house (cave)! Bwaahahaha!!! 🦇🎃👽

  • @janblake9468
    @janblake9468 21 день назад +1

    That cave showed no evidence of having been a bomb shelter. Plus, the entrance would have been very difficult and dangerous for refugees.

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  21 день назад +1

      @@janblake9468 you’re right there. Maybe back in the day it was different

  • @jerroldmcley4347
    @jerroldmcley4347 21 день назад +1

    How did you not sink in the sand😮

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  21 день назад +2

      @@jerroldmcley4347 lucky I guess!

  • @brianshersby8979
    @brianshersby8979 22 дня назад +3

    What an interesting cave, complete with a mutrder mystery. Loveless by namecand nature it seems. Wonder where his head is. It beats me why anyone wants to do graffiti. The only benefit is to the manufacturers of spray paint cans.

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  22 дня назад

      @@brianshersby8979 the head is still to be found. Probably somewhere in the cave.
      Agree about the painting. One of my gripe

  • @pixelpeter3883
    @pixelpeter3883 22 дня назад +4

    Still don't inderstand that people can go into such a great natural cave and think "you know what this cave needs? A nice coat of paint!" Bah! :-\

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  22 дня назад +1

      Crazy eh? Don’t understand it either Peter

  • @Kevin-mw9yl
    @Kevin-mw9yl 21 день назад +1

    Can't watch that, Sorry. Too much vandalism,

  • @JMVideos7676
    @JMVideos7676 21 день назад +1

    Sorry, but the second I saw the graffiti I stopped watching.

  • @kimwahrenbrock3149
    @kimwahrenbrock3149 21 день назад

    Dave, quit tearing up the sand dunes! There's regular dirt road to the caves! Boo on you for not caring for our environment.

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  21 день назад +1

      @@kimwahrenbrock3149 boys will be boys Kim

  • @candymcclure2476
    @candymcclure2476 22 дня назад +4

    I prefer just both of you and Tonto. Dave's ok but not an explorer I would chose to follow. Gramma Candy

    • @PinInTheAtlas
      @PinInTheAtlas  22 дня назад +2

      @@candymcclure2476 we spent a couple of weeks with Dave as he took us to places that we hadn’t heard of.

    • @doug6885
      @doug6885 21 день назад +1

      I like it when they hang out with the cool Jeep guy. He's never trying to be on camera and his Jeeps are da bomb. :)

    • @johnmonaco1028
      @johnmonaco1028 21 день назад +2

      Dave is Cool!