The Greatest Speedrun In Minecraft History Just Happened
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Today we will take a look at a new minecraft speedrun world record. In my opinion this is the greatest speedrun in the history of the game.
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its not thaaaaat hard to find buried treasures and people had already narrowed down that it always spawns on the 9 9 block of a chunk quite quickly after they were implemented in 1.13
@@Ninjalette666 It's finding the chunk that's hard, not the chest.
@@ethohalfslab the f3 menu piechart trick with buried treasure was discovered around the same time tho....i dont see your point?
Bro zylenox went from one of the most respected geometry dash creators to a Minecraft world record holder, this guy is crazy
I'm sad that zylenox left gd. Ik about the controversy but I'm glad that he didn't delete his levels
Guy made furry hentai on R34 lmao
@@SuperBuildsInMC omg he did, ggs to him, im a furry too
@@SuperBuildsInMC least horny furry 💀
@@SuperBuildsInMC triple win tbh
Zylenox, having grown to fame in two communities, one as a master level creator, one as a speedrunner. Incredible.
nuh uh he aint growing fame. he is pushing boundaries. So insane and revolutionary that cant ever be replicated
Also for people replying i didnt mean it like that.
@@JustKille What do you mean he's not growing fame?
Zylenox is probably the goat of 2.1 art style levels and hes quickly becoming the goat of modern mc speedruns, so glad to see it
Waiiiit a minute, I’ve seen this before
yeah, he’s insane. his decoration is actually insane
I like how even with these insane records, we still find mistakes and little things that can be improved lol
Yeah, minecraft is such a complex game it'll keep improving long past our lifetimes. 'Frame perfect' records do exist too that are 'solved' and they're interesting too, with very little difference between TAS and human.
Minecraft at least will have luck to contend with unless probability manipulation becomes practical for speedrunning (unlikely in random seed)
i mean thats just almost always the case with anything complex yeah you can do it well better than anyone else but being perfect is impossible
Yes but mistakes are not important in MC, it's only seed luck
You can be better if you don't have luck it's impossible
@@marcothedwarf2325 mistakes do matter in minecraft
@@a_little_flame589 no
If you're good, the seed give you a WR, not the mistakes. It's pure luck, you just have to play again and again.
It's different from other speedruns where players get better and better to improve their time.
dude went from silent stoicism to freak out so quickly. I can only imagine the internal panic going on throughout the run.
The “Yeah Bítch” at the end had me dying, sounded like Jesse from Breaking Bad 😂
@@TheBrandonGrose LOL
This is where the Minecraft world records are going to be EXTREMELY tough to beat
they already were
Yeah but they said the same thing a year ago. If there's anything we can absolutely count on, it's that somebody will always find a faster way and destroy the current wr, and much sooner than we all thought.
@@SUPERFunStick there's already data to back up what he said. Last year the world record were set almost every day but after brentildas one there was almost no improvements in time
@@SUPERFunStickfingers crossed on super mario bros 4:53 run
@@fulltimeslackerii8229 nah, there still massive time gains from luck. this one was 30 seconds faster for example. that is a big difference. I thing we still arent quite at the point where it gets incredibly hard where you lost your run if you e.g. mess up a craft & have to do extra moves - but we will get there
Love how 'Billy is screwed' was front and centre for the Opera GX advert. This speed run was also reward for many hours of hard work and heartache.
I didn't see it
@@TtEL 2:25
Karl jobst 2 years later:
Minecraft’s worst cheater in history.
my first thought, sadly.
nah, he has always been good at grinding stuff out
I hope not
lol no
With how many times the video said he got very lucky, but thoughts naturally went to "but was he _too_ lucky?"
Lol in a normal game when I find a treasure map it takes me more than ten minutes to even find the treasure, I excavate the whole beach a lot of the time xD
helpful tip, you can see your chunk coords, and the treasure chest will always spawn at 9,9 in the chunk it's in
@@riley9464 you can't really see the coords unless you use f3. And some people consider using f3 to be cheating.
Not saying everyone does but some people want to navigate via the world not with gps :D
@@alfred3496 some people being almost nobody
almost everybody who plays minecraft uses f3 for coords, it's just not a friendly game without it unless you plan to never leave spawn. lodestones are too hard to get and compasses don't work in the nether or end
a substantial chunk of survival players who consider themselves to be playing vanilla minecraft still use small client-side mods to keep the coords up without f3 or to make them easier to see, speedrunners don't use these mods
This run wasn’t perfect, but it was pretty damn close. Often when we look back at records, some are described as “ahead of their time”
This is 100% one of those runs
i don't know, as remarkable as this run is, it's hard to call this ahead of its time, imo. to me it's more so a product of its time. hypermodern, the wall, and mapless are all things that have been well established for a while now.
compare this to brentildas run which dropped over twice as much time from the previous world record as this did. in his sub 10, he high rolled almost everything, which no one really did back then. wood pick enter, the highroll divine coordinates, and even the parkour were all arguably "ahead of their time."
brent played his wr seed to perfection. it was hard to believe he didn't study that seed beforehand. zylenox makes correct decisions but he was super nervous and made so many mechanical mistakes. i love it and hate it xd
@@maximus3294Lol shut up nerd
@@maximus3294 I mean brentilda’s run was def cheated, his decision making is way too perfect. He definitely played the seed before
@@IceBlueLugia what are you talking about it was literally verified like a year ago
I imagine it will take years until the final frontier of the 7 minute barrier is broken
i doubt 7 minutes will be the final frontier, i think the absolute end of mcsr is sub 5, should that ever come to pass, but who knows, maybe the category will die before then, i doubt it though. edit: i also dont think we will have to wait *too* long, im betting a year max but i could see a sub 7 in 4-6 months with how much top players are nolifing this shit
@@tkienjoyer as Karl said, luck killed off 2 chances for sub-8 already
Third party calculators to find the stronghold based on a single ender pearl throw? That's a bit much if you ask me.
he threw 2 eyes
Using the debug menu and changing render distance to abuse a glitch wasn't too cool either, but apparently within the rules.
@@bdhale34 Yeah and this is supposed to be "glitchless" right? Glitch runs look like they're down to a minute or two or something.
@@bdhale34 its not a glitch
I remember watching zylenox when he was a skyblock player and seeing him get world records is crazy
i remember when zylenox verifed requiem
@@ClebClebisonClebber i remember zylenox when he was remaking old impossible levels in 2.0
ayy me too
That’s crazy that was two years ago you made that video! Glad to see Minecraft is still going strong on speedruns
"under 10 minutes is possible"
"under 7 minutes is possible"...
He's completely silent the entire video and gives off a sort of good boy, family friendly vibe until the last minute of the video where he goes full Jesse Pinkman made me laugh out loud
That’s his normal personality, this was the first time I’ve heard him raise his voice in 5 years
In glad i am not the only one
@@mikkokormann6814 that's awesome he sounds like a cool dude to watch I don't care much for Minecraft anymore but I'd check out his streams
After watching this video I learned I prefer a new category: no menu, no debug.
Seeing all that debug 3/4 the run and all the settings swaps going on made me realize I wasn't watching minecraft, I was watching text.
While cool from a speed perspective, really not that interesting as a viewer.
If you liked it, that's awesome and I'm glad you liked it.
Still an awesome feat, don't get me wrong. Incredible what they can discern from all that stuff
Seeing the ender pearl render distance strategy rubbed me the wrong way
@@littletacos5595 using a vanilla feature that doesn't even involve f3 rubbed you the wrong way?
@@maximus3294 Lowering your render distance to stop the pearl mid air then later increasing it to teleport did bother me. Not calling it invalid, I am just not interested in runs where you do something you wouldn’t do in a normal playing of the game.
@@littletacos5595 A variation of pearl hanging has been used on multiplayer servers for years. In pre 1.13, players would throw a pearl into unloaded chunks and then die to get back to spawn. As long as those chunks remained unloaded, the pearl would be hung indefinitely. Then the player could get a friend or alternate account to load those chunks and instantly travel thousands or even tens of millions of blocks back to where they were. With the addition of bubble columns, pearl suspension has become even more accessible and you'll see many players and content creators building entire fast travel systems around their world using the mechanic. Speedrunners are just using a simplified version of this to minimize travel time.
That said, it's totally valid to not think highly of the mechanic. We're all allowed our own opinion. But, to say that it isn't something that would be seen in normal gameplay in inaccurate. The tech has been around pretty much since the introduction of ender pearls into the game.
Met Zylenox at Twitchcon San Diego, awesome dude and good friend, super happy for him!
Zylenox truly getting the recognition he deserves. Love this guy
That pearl throw was so insane! Well deserved WR to Zylenox!
@@Cleopatrlck??
Minecraft speedrun might have been uterly ruined for me when they decided to allow the use of the calculator, effectively making it a TAS, still, I can't say I'm not impressed by his run. His awarness of his surrounding and the location of the fortress was highly impressive and he really did a good job.
Yeah I'm with you all the way. The quest for the world's fastest Bear Grylls is more interesting than blockulator 2000
It's not even just the calculator, I've been watching Simply play and the entire screen is filled with walls of text. I also saw him switch to spectator mode and just float through the world at times. The speedrun is just fucking impossible to follow as a casual viewer now.
@@musicmashups he does that to check to see if the world was good, your not allowed to be in spectator mode during a run
Back when Illumina made Minecraft speedruns I found them really enjoyable to watch. Nowadays they seem incomprehensible, it's all so perfectly calculated that it feels like a TAS.
@@johnelway76 The fact that this is allowed just makes MC speedruns even more of a joke. I'm baffled that the mc speedrunning community is completely okay with it.
It's sad because not long ago, players were figuring out really creative strategies to lower the time as much as possible, then dedicate a ton of time to find the right seed. The most time consuming and skillful parts were essentially made easier by using outside tools.
i'm really not a fan of modern minecraft speedruns, especially when it comes to the usage of external tools
The problem is that calculator tools are a thing... Anyone could use it secretly (example: other person checking the cords in another pc) So it's better allowing it than having tons of suspect runs...
@@tornado100able just because something is easier doesn't mean its the right thing
@@alternamasaki429 then how are you going to tell cheaters and legit players apart?
I couldn't have fathomed seeing Zylenox be featured in this channel. He deserves it though, this speedrun was insane!
Kaaaarl, this is the 7th week in a row you've brought the greatest minecraft speedrun to class
It's such a magical feeling when you get closer to perfection, when every step is calculated, every move decides the outcome and only margins keep you from becoming a legend or the person that failed when it counted most. THIS is why we love speedrunning. THIS is why we pour hours upon hours into these games. Because WE don't settle untill perfection is achieved! Fantastic video mate!
I beat The Scheldt v2 in 14:95 alone 1 v 4 Expert AI against the Germans and I haven't seen anything lower than that yet I love it!
Zylenox is by far my favorite GD creator. I was really sad when he left the community, but he's truly found himself at home with Minecraft, and I'm proud of him, damnit.
Couldn't have said better myself dude
literally i remember him making amazing GD levels so when i stumbled upon this video and saw he was the world record holder i'm like *what*
but yeah that's great for him
Next months video: you will never believe that we caught another Minecraft Speedrun cheating.
You can say that again
Ironic
Please no not zylenox
Zylenox is so talented, not only is he the current Minecraft record holder, he also used to make very funny Amnesia Let's Plays in 2012
Sven
And he was one of the biggest geometry dash creators
90% of my brain; Amazing Run! Huge congratulations!
The other 10%: _How long till we find out its Cheated?._
Hey, can't blame me for being cautious.
I feel ya.
i feel like this run can be 100% certified for not being cheated for various reasons
The only reason you think this is probably bc the only time Karl really covered MC speedrunning in the past was during some sort of controversy, and not when good things like records happened lol. Nowadays it would be way way harder to get away with being a Dream or a MincrAvenger with the knowledge everyone has now. Those dudes cheated in an era of the game where not everything was known yet, so you could get away with more.
That’s actually partly why MinecrAvenger got caught, people remembered that he had some sus shit happen to him in his old runs, they went and checked, and that was part of the evidence that exposed him
I feel like some people have the idea that there are cheating scandals in minecraft all the time, but the only two that were ever taken seriously in any manner were Dream and MinecrAvenger, all others who have tried to pull this were so obviously fake that nobody ever took them seriously 😂
Next month's video: How the greatest Minecraft speedrun ever was faked.
Hahah is life
I was just about to say exactly that lmao
hahahaha no.
I hope not lol
hi karl
Yo Couriway :O
Uncle Mudslide
i watched him both becoming a great level creator at GD and the best Minecraft speedrunner
@@Suansemdiwm?
It's been over two years since you discovered Minecraft speedruns? Omg, time flies
11:57 might be my favorite part. Man's basically guaranteed to get the WR in his sleep at this point since it's just using the beds to deal damage, but still shows little emotion until the job is actually finished. Gotta make sure you don't trip at the finish line o7
Speaking of Fein, would be cool to see a vid on his reign in AA. It's dope to see more Minecraft content on your channel
I really don’t like the stronghold finder thing but this was still an insane run
Same here. Isn't part of the skill of a run in knowing in-game techniques to find the stronghold? In what other speedrunning community would that fly?
Not into speed running myself, Karl is just entertaining to listen to, but the guy Karl did a video on that won a record in Minecraft without F3 while most people were using it seems to have a lock on greatest minecraft speed run for me.
@@tankerd1847 He mentioned in previous videos that people were using calculators to do it anyway (which is hard to detect) and when that was banned, people started using a spreadsheet of pre-calculated values which was technically allowed but was basically the same thing as using a calculator. I haven't been following the scene to know for sure why the decisions were made, but it seems like a pretty clear inference from there that the mods probably decided they were fighting a losing battle and just evened the playing field by letting everyone just use a tool specifically designed for the task.
It's all just math, theoretically you could do the calculations in your head if you were skilled enough, it would just be slow ofc. In that case, why not just let all runners use a program to calculate for them? It's by far the best and fastest way to locate the stronghold and it doesn't take any skill away from the run.
@@3nduranc3 It does. Doing the calculations on your head is far more skilful than using the calc. Being the fastest way is irrelevant if it's an outside tool.
So today I learned that a boat can drop three planks and two sticks in 1.16, had no idea that was still a thing
Great vid Karl! Zylenox grinds minecraft speedruns daily on Twitch and its so awesome to see him hold the WR.
2 months later it will come out that he cheated
Honestly i wouldnt be surprised
lmao
I will eat a nature valley bar without making any crumbs if this ends up being true
@Don't Read My Profile Photo That joke isn’t even funny anymore, move on
I guarantee there is like a dozen of people looking at this speedrun right now, trying to find out anything wrong with it. The community is pretty vigilant right now. If this is cheated, it would have to be absolutely perfectly done, or a completely new method nobody knows about.
gd players going wild rn, zylenox is a prime example of a masterclass gamer
Imagine SpaceUK getting a world record too. He's a top 2 player/best player, and he destroyed Geometry Dash. I don't think he started to make MC speedruns seriously, but if he does, he could also break the WR
Aged horribly lol
@@thebestplayerever our community is in shambles rn 💀💀
@@pfofe LOL
@@real3h LOL, forgot about this comment. Crazy how none of us suspected him, but I still think he could be a decent speedrunner
Karl my man. I have followed you for years, and I am always excited to see a new video from you. The reason I like your videos, is because you have a great talent for making a narrative, that gets me interested and wanting to know more about the subject you are covering.
Also, I really appreciate the way you explain things, when covering a certain topic. I have never played Golden Eye, but I can appreciate the speedruns in this game, because I can always count on you, to explain the game mechanics, strategies, different approaches etc.
For a layman, this is extremely valuable. I believe that other viewers feel the same way. You are making speed running popular outside the speed running community. It is great feat in and of itself.
But alas, this video does not live up to your usual high standards.
I feel that you are rushing the narrative. There are no natural breaks when you speak, something that you usually have down to a very science.
You are talking very fast, leaving no time for the viewer to let the information sink in. And no time for the viewer to try to imagine, what for example the next strategy will be, that breaks a game wide open. Usually when I am watching a video from you, I'm trying to think ahead, pondering what great feat you are going to mention next.
I also really feel, that you did not explain Minecraft in a way, that a layman could understand. I have never played it, and I get very little information from you, in regards to what the objective is in the game, how to you achieve it, with what objects etc.
All in all I feel like you rushed this video. Like you where in a great hurry. I mean this literally, you talk so fast.
The video 13:46min, surely it would not have mattered if it was 20min or even more.
I really like your journalism, I am following your feud with the big cartoon head and I have donated to you, to help you with legal fees.
So please don't think that I am hating on you for hates sake.
I am trying to give constructive criticism.
Kind regards
Thomas from Denmark
In first Minecraft videos all those years ago, Karl explained in detail all the Minecraft game rules involved. It might’ve been redundant for certain returning viewers to explain them again, which might be why he didn’t do it this time. I agree though it limits this video’s ability to stand on its own, which can be a problem. At the very least, perhaps if Karl had invited viewers to refer to one of those previous videos to get more in-depth explanations, it would’ve addressed this to some level.
Wall of text
Karl is simply speedrunning this video
@@devinmccanna645 Good one!
@@besser-nicht It's not a wall of text, it's just a long and well articulated comment. There is plenty of puntuation and correct formatting, paragraph breaks etc. Just because you have the attention span of a toddler doesn't mean there's anything wrong with circumlocution.
Also considering he's probably not a native English speaker it's impressive that he can write such a clear and well thought out critique - if you had to write even "wall of text" in Danish I doubt you'd do so well.
Thank you Karl for everything you do for the community love your hard work !❤
Karl*
@@venshiyn2049 ty lmao sometimes my fingers are to fast for my eyes . 😌🙏
It's amazing how far zylenox has come
Having the data available on screen, during an official speed run? I can’t get behind that.
bruh its literally part of the game. everyone who’s played java minecraft used the debug screen in casual gameplay for coords and stuff 😂
Pure glitchless mofos be like:
"Hurr durr this text provided by the game is helping, cheating"
Can't wait for 50 years from now when computers are strong enough to run 14 quintillion instances of minecraft at once so we can get the effect of set seed while technically in random seed
ive been a fan of zylenox since his gd days and honestly he deserves this record so much, hes been putting an ungodly amount of time for it
Illumina's no F3 run is still superior
Boomer take
This record is incredible and it will probably take a while to beat but we are definitely nowhere near the end of RSG. There are still many strategies to be explored and much better luck to get. It is exciting to imagine what countless possibilities still await this category, let alone RSG as a whole.
Your videos are fantastic, keep up the great work!
Given the pattern? I give it three years until we find out THIS GUY is found to have cheated too.
The calculator is cheating. Takes all the skill away from calculating where the end portal is. It also makes all the runs tool assisted speedruns, and it should only be allowed in a separate section from the main leaderboard.
How does tabbing off and using a prebuilt calculator not count as a tool and make this a TAS?
watch other Karl Jobsts videos. he did cover this issue
//literally showed the thumbnail of that video
do you even know what a tas is?
@@karatebaby6871 a TAS typically is using tools to improve performance in a speedrun, be it something as simple as slowing down the game or as complex as setting every input for every frame to make a theoretically perfect run.
In this case the third party calculator which literally tells you exactly where you need to be based off of nothing but a few screenshots is a tool, and should be regarded as such imo.
@@turtlex5015 so using an external recording program is cheating? using external mods and timers is cheating? using external macros to run multi instance is cheating?
@@karatebaby6871 do any of those have a significant impact mid way through a run the same way calculating the exact position of a stronghold does?
The beauty of speedrunning games in a community is always finding new ways to push your game of choice to do things that were previously thought impossible. Like with Victoria 3, we took a 50 minute run and brought it to 7:27 in the span of a day of work.
i have been following minecraft speedruns for a very long time, the oldest thing i remember watching vividly (i had interacted with mc speedruns before this i just dont remember which runs they were) was sizzler's 7:37 ssg world record, it was phenomenal for the time. now we are nearly at that time with random seed glitchless. crazy. edit: i felt like it
This is my first exposure to a minecraft speedrun since the record was at 10 minutes! I had no idea buried treasures and lava ravines had become the new meta!
I've never even played Minecraft (crazy, I know) but Karl still has me excited about these crazy world records and situations around. Great work as always, and I already can't wait for the next legendary upload!
Just last night I was watching some old Karl Jobst videos and I thought to myself, man I wish you would post a new one. What a wonderful day!
it's interesting seeing just how much of a difference mathematics and knowledge of game settings make in games like minecraft. it always fascinates me seeing how the numbers truly change how the games run
@@Cleopatrlck bro you really gotta be that stoopid to spread this "message" around are ya?
3 months later:
How The Greatest Cheated Speedrun Was Exposed
2 weeks later, “greatest minecraft speedrun of all time was fake!!”
That render distance strat is like Control in GoldenEye where you throw the mine and look away to unload the walls.
Missed these videos, glad to hear Billy the TODdlery Roger's Mitchell problem is over, if he stops finding ways to extend it. Love your content. Loved it even more after your nintendo magazine video, made more sense of how you present. Go Karl. Go you Krazy mate. Sometimes you makes me wanna settle and pick a game for speedrunning, sometimes you just show me stuff that puts me in awe. Keep it up Karl Jobst!!!
when i first saw the run, i thought it was set speed because of how fast the movements were and the accuracy of the decisions made. my mind is blown that this was a brand new seed
@@Cleopatrlck how could he have seen the seed beforehand
@@Cleopatrlck ok but he generated the world while recording and didn’t type in the seed
@@Cleopatrlck it was done on livestream
@@Cleopatrlck cope
Can't wait for "Greatest Speedrun faked" follow up video :3
The complete composure until the dragon dies shows you how focussed and determined this guy was. Bravo 👏🏻
Last time I heard of the name "Zylenox" was a very long time ago.... but I was glad to see he's still going at it strong woth minecraft glad it worked out for him
straight up had a heart attack when i heard his name lol
It helps at all modern speedruns are tool assisted runs as well having mods in the game now that automatically calculate where the dungeon is among other things
Its the literal same thing as a phone calculator lmfao calm down, and don’t try to say “among other things” bc literally everything you see other than the calculator is base vanilla gameplay 😂
@@pebble312 other then the auto world generator that automatically looks for better worlds, optifine that let's you zoom, and the auto calculator that you don't even have to type in cords because of the automation that tells you where the strong hold is as well as where to make a portal in the nether. the "speed running" community has the game so modded at this point all in the name of "making a more entertaining run" that they have removed a fair portion of the skill needed. Even a single mod/tool that is put into a game should be classified as TAS. Even the video creator has made a video on this. But you know, what ever gives you that edge, as long as you can convince everyone else it's ok right. It's like says, "it's only illegal if you get caught".
@@hqt00 “Auto world generator”: It doesn’t “automatically” generate worlds, every window is still reset by the runner physically hitting a button on their keyboard to reset them. The Wall just decreases lag while allowing for a reasonable OBS setup for multi-instance resetting, but it does NOT automatically reset seeds for you while you can just sit back and relax.
Optifine: Optifine isn’t allowed lmfao, he didn’t use optifine or zoom at all. If anything, you may have seen him go 30 FOV when he was measuring the eyes and incorrectly assumed that he was using Optifine zoom when it was actually just cranking FOV all the way down, which is obviously completely vanilla.
Calculators: Obviously a complicated issue, but I have personally used math/a calculator to find the stronghold in minecraft before even speedrunning lol, so I’ve never seen too much wrong with it. It’s just simple trig lmao, u could do it on ur phone easily in seconds if u know what ur doing. Also, before calculators were allowed, people employed the use of 1000+ entry long spreadsheets to be able to basically use a calculator with it “technically not being a calculator” anyways. One of the problems with a calc ban like the rules were before is that it’s an impossible thing to enforce, bc u could easily just have one off screen without anyone knowing. A vote was held eventually and calcs won at like 57% or something, so they were allowed. I’ve never had a problem with it myself, but it’s the only one that I can understand people being rubbed the wrong way on, mainly because of how it records your input values.
@@pebble312 when you mod/change a game to make it easier or add tools to the game it's self that assist your game play you have a tool assisted game. You want to use tools by hand outside of the game, go for it. The moment you add them to the game or automate the tool you now have a tool assisted game
@@hqt00 It's funny when someone rants about tools that don't actually exist while being ignorant of the ones that do.
You know it's about to get good when the Celeste music comes in.
Hey Karl, I just to say you are an amazing guy and your videos are pure joy! Thanks a lot for doing this, it's really cool and entertaining.
I remember when Karl said he was only joking that he was switching his channel to Minecraft-only content... Why am I so captivated by him rapid-fire listing off a bunch of items I’ve never heard of? He could be like, “It was incredibly lucky for the runner to find 13 wicker chairs in this gopher hole that he spawned next to, because with his knowledge of the game, he makes the incredible decision to combine them with raw pasta to make a doorway to the sky tower, where he still needs a lot of trade luck to get enough turpentine to build a giraffe gun.” That would make about as much sense to me as what I’m hearing, but I’d still be fascinated (cue the Jon Stewart eating popcorn gif).
Next step, they will let an AI send signals to their muscles to play the game. So it is technically not a TAS.
I think what you're describing might involve one or two tools, but that's just a hunch
@@mac5565 THey are already using tools to find the Stronghold.
@@Draffut2003 Fair point, but I would imagine the actual movement of the player character is still all done by a human, using a human brain.
Genuinely have no idea where the line would be drawn though; it's interesting to think about how the bounds of what's considered acceptible might move as the game evolves.
@@Draffut2003 you could do the same thing on a piece of paper, this just saves a lot more time. As long as your not changing the way the game plays, its fair.
@@njgskgkensidukukibnalt7372 The render distance glitch to pause the pearl changed the way the game was playing. Using the in game debug menu is a bit questionable too.. neither are things the game does by default, you have to enable things or change settings to perform them. I don't know of many world records that allow so many questionable things to happen. Truth is it's all probably allowed just because it's faster than the cheater Dream did it.
Minecraft speedruns are so fast now I can't even tell what's happening most of the time, really impressive stuff
I remeber a few years ago when like under 30 minuets in minecraft was ridiculously good and really impressive and then. This guy comes along and just beats it in. The time it usually takes me to get like half iron if i get an ocean spawn
Minecraft is really the silliest speedrun ever. You gotta do months of research just to get into it it seems. Then you have to have a computer beastly enough to run 15 instances of Minecraft.
Nice video Karl this breakdown is well presented and knowing all of this makes Zylenox's run way more impressive. Thanks for the upload.
Locked in for this!! Love ya Karl ❤️
Only content creator that I click on the notification as soon as it drops! I don't even play minecraft but have watched all your vids on its speedruns....and dream rng 🤣
Can't wait for your next vid already bro
I think the most interesting was that just a few years ago, before the piglin update, getting below the 1 hour mark meant you were *good* at the game, and even breaking that limit was HUGE
It’s because the game has gotten easier to beat after each update
Had to check if I left my music on at 12:18. Have been listening to the Tetris CD-I soundtracks for a while now and I can't get enough of it. It's nice to see other people enjoying it too
Thanks for sharing the name of the song. I was wondering what the name of it was.
Thanks.
weird question. Since tools like the ender finder tool is allowed, can't you just create a tool that exactly locates the nearest treasure chest cutting like 30 seconds from a run?
yeah man thats definitely possible
Since it's kinda trivial and seed dependent whether there's a treasure chest nearby.
There's already several ways to find a treasure chest very quickly, but there's hardly anything you can do if it's hard to reach starting with little-to-none equipment.
Well not really, bc the only thing the end finder does is simple trig. It takes two lines (eye of ender angles) and finds where they intersect, you could easily do it on ur phone in a matter of seconds if you know how to do trig
I am so jaded at this point that I'm just wondering how long it'll be until we find out he cheated.
Same. I'd not be surprised in the slightest if or when it happens. Minecraft just seems like a very bad game to speedrun.
Me too. It seems too perfect.
unlikely
I remember the greatest Minecraft Speedrun being Illumina running random seed during a marathon, live, Infront of an audience.
He did it so fast that 2 of his runs are almost done in the span of this explanation, amazing 👏 what a legend
Between the f3 screen, and an external stronghold calculator, why are runs like this not considered tool-assisted?
because looking at numbers isn't a tool
A second person could easily calculate the cords for the player based on the data..
Really cool speedrun and undoubtedly a skilled runner. That said, in general for Minecraft speedrunning, while I know it's acceptable to use a calculator to find the coordinates of the stronghold, to me it feels like it's cheating since it's using an outside tool to make the run quicker. There's a ton of other skill in other parts of runs, and ultimately it mainly just cuts down on the luck element since you don't have to worry about pearls breaking, but using a tool like that in speedruns of other games would probably flat out be banned.
Eh, calculators are allowed in some other speedruns too, plus you could easily do this on ur phone in less than 20 seconds if u had a trig calculator at the ready. I guess I get the sentiment, but at the same time I feel like people are really blowing the calculator issue out of proportion. I have literally done math with the angles to find the stronghold in normal survival before even speedrunning, so i honestly never thought some people would hate calculators so much when they got allowed. It kinda gives me the same vibe of when a teacher in school wouldn’t let you use a calculator on a test. Like why lol
And this reply isn’t even getting into the issue of the 1000+ entry spreadsheets people used to have when calcs weren’t allowed bc a several thousand entry long spreadsheet “technically wasn’t a calculator”. 😂
@@pebble312 Part of my main problem I suppose is the "slippery slope" nature of it. Basically it's using an outside program to do something that a human could theoretically do on the fly, but might not be good enough/knowledgeable enough to do themselves.
In the same vein, using cheats or mods to perform frame perfect actions such as a tas would do, is using outside programs to do something that is theoretically possible, but a normal person might not be good enough/knowledgeable enough to do themselves.
It's not the exact same thing, of course, but it's in the same vein. It feels a bit wrong to me to make that exception when it's ideally supposed to be a contest to see who can complete it the fastest on their own, using their own knowledge or skills.
@@Gamer3427 the calculator never interacts directly with the game, and it's a tool freely available to anyone with an internet connection good enough to submit runs anyway. it's reference material based on information the runner has to find out and input themselves, and some other games have similar tools used in speedruns, like wind waker's sploosh-kaboom game (which is entirely random to win or lose without the calculator).
Minecraft speedrunning is timed based on the in game time. If you wanted to you could do the math with spreadsheets and paper. It just doesn't make sense to not allow calculators when they do the same thing, and virtually would have no impact on the in game time which is what the leaderboard is based off of. It is just much better use of time than doing the trigonometry yourself, and that is why the community ultimately decided that allowing calculators would be for the best. There are separate categories where the debug screen (f3) multi instance, and calculators are not allowed, however for top level speedrunners these categories are not really enjoyable to run considering that the nature of the game is already so heavily based in rng. 99+ percent of seeds are not runnable for top level runners due to bad terrain, bad structure proximity, unfavorable drop rates and trades, and a multitude of other factors. Allowing the use of these tools just makes many more seeds viable for speedrunning. These rules are the way they are for good reason.
You are the Legend of us legends. Awesome videos as always. Thank you and please keep going!
Amazing how a game based entirely on unique worlds was destroyed to completely nullify luck by speedrunners
The game isnt destroyed lmao, the speedrunning community in minecraft is very small
What are you talking about? Unique worlds are still there and luck is essential for the speedrun's success
Almost looks like a TAS run, really impressive stuff!
it is technically a TAS run since he used a calculator (which would be the external tool) but for some reason that’s allowed
@@matheuscabral9618 Techincally correct lol but you know what I mean
@@matheuscabral9618 I think it's nuts they even consider this a legit way. It's just pure cheating.
Nah. TAS runs have a different feel to them entirely. Especially ones where glitches are allowed.
@@PsychoNinjaFlea It's not
This was unexpected because the luck was amazing and the run was getting so optimized. For this speedrunner, zylenox it was mind blowing.😲 He even beat some single segments during his legendary run as well. And remember this run was against doogs wr at the time.
First, I LOVE how in the Opera GX plug, you showed your Billy videos.
Second, at this point, while I applaud everyone who gets these records, and those who attempt, Im so jaded that I dont think I will accept them at least for another 5 years. Nearly every time I think something is pure, I find out it was cheated in some new clever way not detected. So many you have brought to my attention also.
So, congratz to Z for the new record. And hopefully, you dont have to do another vid about it in a few months/years on how its illegitimate.
The only reason you think this is probably bc the only time Karl really covered MC speedrunning in the past was during some sort of controversy, and not when good things like records happened lol. Nowadays it would be way way harder to get away with being a Dream or a MinecrAvenger with the knowledge everyone has now. Those dudes cheated in an era of the game where not everything was known yet, so you could get away with more.
That’s actually partly why MinecrAvenger got caught, when he was getting exposed, people remembered that he had some sus shit happen to him in his old runs, they went and checked, and that was part of the evidence that exposed him
I feel like some people have the idea that there are cheating scandals in minecraft all the time, but the only two that were ever taken seriously in any manner were Dream and MinecrAvenger, all others who have tried to pull this were so obviously fake that nobody ever took them seriously 😂
Speedrunners are so cool man. Watching this stuff is just crazy
It's crazy that just 2 years ago the WR was over 14 minutes and now rekrap beat minecraft in 12 minutes
2 years later: The greatest cheater in minecraft history.
Thats exaclty what i thought
Thank you for uploading you legend, you make my days better
zylenox on a karl jobst video is a dream come true
i remember when he was a gd creator (and a pretty good player tbh) :) time flies
This dude is insanely talented
Yeah, I've got no faith in the minecraft speedrunning community. Not after so many scandals, and also not being invested in it in the first place (outside these videos).
I felt that "YEAH BITCH!!" on a fucking spiritual level. I love watching the rush of power and energy that happens during a WR break.
Hiya Karl! Great video as usual! I know I asked a question like this before, but can you tell me what music you used at 1:45 and 2:49? That last one sounds like Goldeneye music, but when I looked up the OST, I wasn't able to find it. Thanks for your time, and good luck with more vids in the future!
Wow, I realized how fast they were doing complicated tasks, and I had to check the timecodes to see if it was sped up (it wasn't lol). This meta just proves you don't need to cheat the odds to make new records. Simply amazing.
Nope just have to use a calculator and abuse render distance glitches and probably a few other things.
@@bdhale34 “abuse render distance glitches” tell me u don’t know what ur talking about without telling me u don’t know what ur talking about. It’s not a glitch, it’s literally how the game is designed lmfao,
Pearl hanging is a cool strat that saves a few seconds at most throughout this run, and ur acting like it was one of the deciding factors 😂 lame take and also just plain wrong in terms of how much importance ur putting on it
I'm tired of Minecraft speedruns... I feel like we're just zooming in on the one monkey at a typewriter that happened to type Hamlet.
I understand that there's still tons of skill and strategy, and that Karl is going into a lot of detail describing it, but... it's still too much like watching people panning for gold or using a metal detector.
Also, let's hope this is amazing luck and not another "lucky" person, we've had lots of those...
as a gd player, hearing karl jobst say zylenox makes me feel weird but also hype