Star Trek - The Trouble With Tribbles - visual effects comparison
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- Опубликовано: 3 янв 2015
- For this episode CBS Digital hasn't only re-created all the exterior shots with modern CGI, but they also replaced almost all window shots filmed on the Deep Station K7 set.
As usually you can see on the left side the original effects and on the right side the new CGI effects.
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The original shot of the ship at 7:10 is beautiful
Yeah, they should have duplicated that aspect. They already had plenty of those "swooping by slightly overhead" shots.
Exactly what I think, they didn't need to change it, it was better
Agreed.
That's probably the best shot of the Enterprise in the original series. It is also, I believe, the last footage ever taken of the original model. Every episode for the rest of the second season and the entirety of the third season used stock footage shot for previous episodes.
That shot is when the nacelles looked best. The CGI mostly sucks. They never got the lighting or nacelles right.
4:02 - Very convenient for the communications camera to have a "Dramatic Zoom Out" Feature...
Shots like this always take me out of the story and remind me that I'm watching just a TV Show
I can't wait until they release a version where they fix the communication camera pans to be stationary
We kind of have a similar-ish feature now. Webcams that track moving subjects automatically.
The CGI looks great, but seeing them side by side with the original reminds how well they often did considering the era TV- VFX tech then/there and their budget requirements.
Speaking of budgets, I always felt it was too bad they didn't make a Klingon ship model from the get-go in "Errand of Mercy."
As a 80s kid, I am not going to lie, the CGI is just way better for me. Ive been watching a lot of these CGI side by sides and I am actually interested in watching the remastered. For example, a lot of atmospheric planets in the old version look like gas planets to me when they are actually atmospheric. CGI version makes the planets look more earthly so I know the planet is habitable before they even think about beaming down. I dont know, you really have to pay attention to the dialogue on the original to know whats going on. I feel the CGI makes it easier to follow even when your not paying attention to the dialogue.
@@anthonygordon9483 of course, you have to remember that back in the 60s we didn't have any pictures of what planets looked like from space, we didn't get the first picture of Earth until the Apollo missions. Jupiter and Saturn were just dots in the sky and with the telescopes of the era we might make out the rings of Saturn, but nothing clearly.
No clips of the ds9 crew in the background?
+Howyaduing If you are going to all the trouble, might as well include them too.
I think it would be great if they'd included the DS9 crew shots. :)
Maybe if they release a DS9 Blu-ray set in 30 years
Yes, I agree. The DS9 episode is cannon and their episode should be woven into this episode!!
Would have been perfect to add that in. The devil is in the details.
One thing nice about the CGI is that the ridiculously nearby stars are gone.
On a clear night we can see thousands of stars. Give me the stars any day.
One of my favorite episodes, love the humor in parts of it. 🤓 This episode had less visual effects, so it didn’t get changed as much as some others did. Still...I like the original best in every instance! Lol🖖🏻 The ship and station look better in the original - and really I like the show intro background in the original better with more stars and less detailed planet too, and knowing how they filmed it themselves that way at the studio makes it more important! ✨🌕
I am always amazed now that we have gone towards CGI the loving craft of 1966 show. It shows. They did so much! Maybe, more than everything, I really did feel that they were going 'where no man had gone before' ?
Kathleen Hensley - Yes, I agree, they really were doing what hadn’t been done and for the era it’s pretty awesome I think! I’ll always pick the original. 😊🖖🏻
The original was pretty good.
They removed the Enterprise from the shot at 3:10 and I cannot think of a single reason why
Yes, and it doesn't even fix a continuity error or something like that. Strange choice.
Pretty sure Mike Okuda timed how fast the Enterprise would orbit around K-7 and determined that it wouldn't be visible so soon again after already having flown by earlier in the scene.
@@klopferator I always thought that the Enterprise was slowly orbiting the station. Not flying around it in circles like it was in a race at the Indianapolis 500.
Looks like you missed it go past the rightmost window earlier in the scene on the CGI side. The original was static on a different window. I love seeing the Enterprise out the window in both versions.
Maybe practical convenience? Since the camera moves around then they would have to motion track in the digital models for a very simple shot.
Man, that flyby music cue at 6:13 is awsome.
If the Klingon ship was hovering "only" 100km from D-7...I doubt it would be so visible in that shot. :-)
3:44 and, Captain, you're in good hands with tribbles.
this was a rather... unique episode...
i love it (also i want a tribble as a pet)
I think it’s nice to see the Klingon cruiser. It adds to the tension. Otherwise, I tend to prefer the original effects, most of the time.
They didn't show it up close though. One of the problems in the original series is that it wasn't introduced until "Elaan of Troyius" they said.
A mixed bag, for sure. Why do the space shots in the CGI version so often cut in early, wiping out part of the scenes with characters? They even cut off Uhura mid-line.
It's the dissolves. In order to incorporate the new CGI shots, they had to start some dissolves earlier than in the original episodes which ends up cutting off several seconds of actors' performances at the end of scenes. This is one of the reasons I'm not fond of the CGI "enhancements" and prefer watching the episodes with the original special effects.
@@Durwood71 Thanks!
Ah, yes. Of course. I asked this on another of these videos and someone gave me the same answer.
I also prefer the originals in general. The main improvements with the CGI are the battle scenes (mostly) and the fact that the stars don't move in the original when the ship steers. But the CGI does make some other things worse. Perhaps the worst of the bunch is when the doomsday machine had finally been rendered dead, it actually looked dead in the original, but in the CGI version it drooped! It slowly sank "down." There's no up and down in space. It's bad enough we have gravity everywhere, even in badly damaged ships, and now they go through the trouble to make it even worse? Why not just let the thing stay still? Sheeesh.
@@betaneptune I hate the excuse "This is how the original producers would have made it look if they had our technology." That strikes me as presumptuous. And then they tried to hold back with the CGI effects shots to make them blend with the original footage, which I think was a mistake. The original effects artists didn't deliberately hold themselves back; on the contrary, they did the best they could with the techniques and technology available to them, and I think the CGI artists should have done the same. Case in point, look at the Deep Space 9 crossover episode "Trials and Tribble-ations" which created new state of the art model shots which blend perfectly with the original footage. There was no need to hold themselves back.
@@Durwood71 Well, first of all I never said that. But I disagree with you about holding back. The worst case is "Amok Time." There are the new scenes of our heroes walking across the huge arch (and why didn't they just beam down to the entrance) and the long shot of Vulcan itself. While they look a lot more "realistic", they don't blend in with the rest of the show at all. It looks like someone changed the channel. I haven't seen any DS9 episodes. Well, as far as doing the best they can, sometimes they did well, other times, not. Making the doomsday machine droop was just plain dumb. Making it into an ordinary flamethrower made it lame.
@@Durwood71 Another botched effect is the shot of the moon in "Tomorrow is Yesterday." You can see stars where the dark portion of the moon is. Anyone working on such effects really ought to have at least a rudimentary knowledge of astronomy. Do people really think the moon's shape changes with its phase? YOU CAN'T SEE THROUGH THE MOON. Sheesh. They didn't even have to add it in the first place. And the perspective is wrong. The lighting on the moon is inconsistent with that on the ship. The sun would have to be in a different place for each. So they went the extra mile like you ask but screwed it up anyway.
So, what's the panel full of blinkenlights next to the hall intercom? Is some random crewperson going to walk by, suddenly notice the fourth light in the second row is blinking the wrong color, and call red alert? Maybe it shows a pending call? "Oh, shit, my message waiting light is on. Gotta call by supervisor." This was before communicators in the insignia and crew didn't carry them normally. And constantly broadcasting "Ensign Smith to intercom. Ensign Smith to intercom." would get really annoying to the rest of the crew, when Smith had some legit reason to not be where they'd hear the signal.
4:24
I always thought this Klingon would make a great Robbie Rotten
There was The Squire of Gothos or Ivan Drago’s Herald in “Rocky IV”.
I think the lower angle from the CGI shot is because they took too much shot for the Enterprise-D...
The lower angle is perfect for Enterprise-D, because the warp drive is lower than the saucer section.
But the shot at 7:11 is just better for ship design like Enterprise.
And all of you complaining about the distance of the Klingon ship, who's to say that it didn't move closer to the station after it was detected? Plus this show was never really accurate with distance related to scale. In Doomsday Machine, the planet killer was described as miles long when it clearly wasn't
Now show me a version with the DS9 cast members in the background!
I'll get there eventually
The story has not changed but the update to the space scenes is a positive as it makes it more watch-able in todays time! The stories have stood the test of time and are still relevant today. Not many shows can say this as most are REALLY dated! I have tried watching some older shows and they are SO dated it's more laughable than watchable. Gene was very careful not to do current times into the storylines although it did crop up a few times but he really was genius! Think about it! This show aired in 1967!!! It's 2021 and one can still watch this show as many do! That says ALOT!
3:10 Honestly kind of like the fact they had the ship in the background in the original.
I did too. But it's in both versions. The CGI one moves.
I dont know why I was looking for Obrien and worf, then I remembered thats ds9 trouble with Tribbles.
Forget the TV sequels just watch the great 60's original.
I have to say I like the original effects better.
Me too.
no shit sherlock
Yep, even though the Enterprise's port nacelle looks a bit wonky in the shots with the AMT model.
Squire of Klingons. :)
I wonder if the producers of the CGI versions were ever thinking about having the Enterprise make a jump for warp speed in visual when making them. Like Kirk ordering the ship to go to warp factor 2 and watching the ship leave with credits showing and making the jump.
3:10 Don't see why CBS removed the Enterprise from the window.
It was best to leave the scene alone.
What were they thinking?
About the only improvement is that they added in the Klingon ship. I wonder why they didn’t add in Cyrano Jones’ ship as well. (Maybe they didn’t know what it looked like.)
Probably docked inside like Star Trek 3's space station.
I think they had an episode in the animated series which had Cyrano Jones who had stolen a creature that was the tribble's natural predator.
VFX aside (which are brilliantly compared here), that opening music right after the credits is my favorite in TOS. It has a sense of urgency and mystery about what the Big E is approaching. Or something. 😁
And. Get. These. Tribbles. Off. The bridge.
I wonder if the Klingons ended up eating them like some people eat Guinea Pig? Mmm. Or whether they just killed them all.
I think that the visual upgrade is fine. Sometimes I hate it, sometimes I like it. On the ship shots, I like how they upgraded the stars. The stars look real now. But one thing I’ve always hated is during the time that they show Shatner, Nimoy, and Kelley’s names, and Kirk is giving his 5-year mission prologue, the updated audio makes it sound like Kirk is at the opposite end of a very long hallway, or yelling in canyon
I'm surprised with the CGI they couldn't have made the docking port on the bottom of station look more realistic.
Aww. I liked seeing Enterprise in the background during the "space wheat" meeting.
I think I like the stationary Enterprise in the original shots more than the constantly moving Enterprise of the newer effects. It's possible to just pull up a parking spot in space and just sit there for a bit, yeah? Or was the revolutions a sign of the station itself rotating?
I still think the vents on the ORIGINAL LOOK BETTER then the rounded ball on the Enterprise Nacelles
CGI is WAAAYYYYYYY BETTER. But you have to appreciate what they did with their considerably low budget (compared to other shows).
2:33 Is it me or does the Enterprise's port nacelle look a bit crooked in the original?
Didn't they use the AMT model kit for this episode's wide shots? Or am I confusing it with a different episode? Because yes, the nacelle looks very weird
@@TrekkieChannel I'm not really sure. Maybe they did.
@@TrekkieChannel Gerrold's book mentions specifically that the AMT model was used for the Enterprise visible through the window. I don't think he addressed the exterior shots one way or another. But it does look a little wonky there.
@@TrekkieChannel It is an AMT model in 'distance' shots like at 2:34, hence the crooked nacelle, a problem with the model kit back then.
I wonder if they add credits for the cgi designer on the remastered version. By the way guys, this isnt fan editing, this comes from the remastered version if your interested in getting all the seasons in full with the cigi updated.
No, the closing credits are the same in both versions
It'd be funny if this video depicted DS9 characters.
I Like the CGI, Good Show.
In my opinion some of the remastering was Superfluous some of the close in shots of Enterprise leaving from one location or another such as the clip of Enterprise leaving K7 the original certainly would have been perfectly sufficient based on detail. By the same token in other episodes the cut and paste approach of the four ships in the ultimate computer or the opener with the closing of the Enterprise at the beginning of the Enterprise incident the overall effects of those generally Superior to most of the other close in flyby clips throughout the series
When I got the VHS copies with "Next time on Star Trek" there was nearly always a scene of the Enterprise doing an impulse turn to port. I didn't remember if that was in an episode until I saw the comparisons for "Let That Be Your Last Battlefield" when it was going in a big loop at warp speed. They changed it for the CGI to be at warp speed, but I haven't seen the close-up impulse turn used anywhere else since then. Too bad.
Isn't that Patty Duke's father?
Damn I'm old!
Not a hardcore fan. So my opinion means little. I like the original stuff more than cgi. Has charm and looks great (fits in better as well)
They couldn't have swapped out the computer screen pictures, with a nice CGI display?
The Space Station was sightly better than the original, but couldn't they have at least updated it to something we would have seen in the late 1990s?
I'm actually happy they stuck to the 60's aesthetics
@@TrekkieChannel They already had the 60's aesthetics in the original video. There is little point in changing obscure details that do nothing to improve the special effects.
I wish when they'd do retro series they'd tone down the graphics and make it something that looks like it could have been in the original show if you'd only seen a closeup.
J'ai toujours imaginer faire parti de l'équipage de l'entreprise depuis mon enfance dans les années 80 .kirk spock j'aurais tant aimé être à bord de ce vaisseau. Je crois que c'est quelque chose que je regretterais jusqu'à mon dernier souffle sur cette planète.
No offense to William Campbell, but he played Koloth as a bit prissy for a Klingon. Korax, his first officer, on the other hand, was the real badass.
Yes, he was more Squire of Gothos than Klingon commander.
I prefer the TOS Klingons. Messing with the Klingons is a pre-digital example of remaster over-reach.
klingon shaming!
Klingons: “Puny humans we will kill you all”
“Treacherous Romulans we will spit on your graves”
“Arrogant Vulcans we will make you will cry like children”
“OMG…Tribbles!!! Fellow Klingons…Run for your lives”!!!
I’m mixed on this episode as I like a lot of the original effects and will always love the original model. There are a few orbiting scenes of K7 that break up the monotony by the original opening, approach and leaving that is far superior.
It's a shame @4:41 they didn't include the insert of Sisko and Dax in the background from the DS9 episode
"A Klingon battle cruiser is hovering 100 kilometers from DS K7", yet the CGI shows it hovering a few hundred meters at most from K7. They actually had it right in the original version, they didn't show the cruiser at all.
warptek Either that or the battle cruiser got engorged on K7's grain.
It's considerably further away than a few hundred meters. K-7 isn't several kilometers wide like, say, Spacedock, it's only about 300 meters wide. So, for the Kolothos to appear so small would mean it's about 10-20 km away.
@@thomasackerman5399 huh?? Do you know what a kilometer is? 10km, you're smallest estimate is 6.2miles. At that distance the D7 would appear as a dot at best. 100km, what the line says, is 62 miles away. Too small to see.
@@warptek I do. But apparently you don't, so I can see why you'd double down on it.
A few hundred meters away from the 300 meter wide K-7 would literally make it subtend almost the entire view since a D7 is almost 300 meters long (per the graphic seen in 'The Enterprise Incident'). That's a big ship.
At 10 km (6.2 miles) it would be very visible. A 73 meter long airliner would be visible and its outline distinct at that distance. I know, I watch aircraft and can tell you that starship would quite visible.
Using the following formula, I can also get a good calculation of the distance:
ObjectDistance/ObjectLength = ImageDistancetoLens/ImageLengthonFilm or, OD/OL = ID/IL
We can assume different film frame sizes, such as 35 mm or 50 mm, etc. We can calculate using how much of that the D7 subtends that field and the plug in the numbers to get the distance.
@@thomasackerman5399 Okay, Thomas. We're going by the visual representation. What the special effects team showed. Clearly the D7 is not 100 kilometers away but only a few hundred meters away. It would not appear that large. Why can't you just say they screwed up and be done with it? There's no reason to defend this and try and twist reality to justify it. The Star Trek fan police will not come arrest you and charge you with a crime. It's real simple. the special effects team either missed that line in the script, or ignored it. Conversely, someone in post production may have probably caught it but it would've been too expensive to fix and go over budget.
The cgi ship is so dark.
I have this set. IMO "The Doomsday Machine" and "Amok Time" benefited the most. Many episodes received only minimal alteration. The series can be watched either way. Very nice versions of The Cage and The Managerie are included. I paid $70 online for all.
However, the aspect ratio is still 1.66. [standard ntsc]
"However, the aspect ratio is still 1.66. [standard ntsc]"
Which I'm personally grateful for. I hate when companies crop old shows to widescreen
You know if full screen bothers you so much, you can zoom the picture, you're doing the same thing as companies that release old shows in widescreen when they were originally in full screen. They just chop off the top and bottom of the picture.
The show was originally shot and produced in a 4:3 aspect ratio. In order to fill out a 16:9 screen, they would have needed to either zoom the image in and thus crop out detail from the original footage, stretch the image horizontally which would make everything look short and fat, or create entirely new footage and effects to fill in the black bars which would have been extraordinarily expensive to do seamlessly. The best option was to simply present the show as it was originally produced.
So many people were resistant to widescreen (as Siskel and Ebert mentioned) until they finally bought widescreen TVs. Even the projection TV we had in college dorm wasn't widescreen.
Absolutely none of the CGI changes improves upon the original. It looks like something from a high school modeling class.
Where is the DS9 crew?
Oh I'll definitely compare the DS9 episode with the TOS episode one day
Honestly, while the CGI effects shots do - in most cases - look nicer… it's frustrating that the fades happen as much as a full second earlier on the CGI side. :/ It completely desynchronizes from the music (e.g.: the opening, where the 'whoosh' of the Enterprise going by is now a 'whoosh' of the credits zooming in).
Also, in the edit starting at 6:45 - specifically, the part when Kirk first walks by Mudd while holding a tribble - whoever did the CGI editing in that part goofed tremendously by not making the Enterprise out-of-focus as it ought to've been.
All in all: I prefer the original effects shots, but it's nice to see a comparison. :)
Kizul Emeraldfire. Cirano Jones, but it would have been funnier with Mudd. I agree about the timing. Poor editing. I was really impressed by Star Trek Continues even restoring original music to fit scenes written longer than stock music would support, just like they did it in the 60s. Vic is a talented producer as he synchronized all the post production scenes. I hope he continues to have success in his day job career. CBS would have improved their efforts if they had at least hired him for editing.
There wasn't much choice because of the masters they were working from.
Yes, I hate that! There are a lot of scenes that fade out before the original timing has a chance to complete the scene, and a lot of those are in the last scene of an episode.
Mudd was a bad guy; Jones was a goof. The former needed rehabilitation, the latter a slap on the wrist.
5:27 Hmm. I didn't see O'Brien or Bashir....
Wrong series
Somebody needs to do a ST:TOS v 3.0. Get some better CGI models, people! And some of the old shots were better, like at 7:11, make the new one look more like that. Also, maybe the old Klingons could be altered to look like ST:TNG Klingons.
I absolutely LOVE the remastered effects, anyone seen the Doomsday Machine? Brilliant, all of it.
2:30
George Lucas would have probably replaced the old "human" Klingons with CGI cartoons of modern ones.
I was saying the White Rabbit in "Shore Leave" should be changed to CGI.
It's doesn't look all that different - Dr. Leonard McCoy
I appreciate these vids, but this one seems to chop some of the scenes too much, sometimes it seems in the middle of an effect.
Well on the other videos I usually get complaints that I'm showing too much of the footage :)
I do not like these new CGI shots. I don't think they look very good. Plus, in some instances, they draw undue attention to themselves such as the larger Enterprise moving outside the window, which ends up drawing your eye away from the actors. And the worst, I think, are instances like the longer dissolve seen around 4:26 which cuts off several seconds of William Shatner's performance. I know it was necessary to start the dissolve earlier in order to add the new CGI shot, but these kinds of alterations go too far in my opinion. I'm just glad that the Blu Ray contains the original episodes in their unaltered state.
I still don't get why they would redo the FX shots. Not only looks the CGI embarrassingly bad. It also completely fails to blend in with the original footage. And why would anybody want this in the first place? TOS is a show you won't watch for the impressive footage nowadays. You watch it to see the old footage.
They tried to get new audiences
They redid the FX because the original show was meant to watched on 19 inch color tvs that have maybe about 400 fuzzy lines of resolution. Shown on huge hi def 1080 tvs, the special effects in particular look spectacularly bad. So bad it's distracting. Distracting even for Star Trek--a show where most of the outdoors scenes were obviously filmed indoors with papier-mâché rocks.
The expectation that the audience watched the show on what is now considered a small tv why you see the obvious stunt men during fight scenes, the seams on Leonard Nimoy's ears, and William Shatner's toupee line on his forehead during close ups--because you can't see it on a 19-inch television.
They changed the rear nacelle exaust manifold. The ship didn’t get the new version yet till later in the series.
The back of the nacelles was actually changed after the second pilot (more than a year before this episode was filmed), but they used SFX shots made before and after the change pretty much without thinking about continuity.
Klopfer That’s what I thought. Even Polar lights added that options to 1:350 STOS model.
It's nice to see the Klingon ship, but at the same moment when Kirk says it's 100km from the station, and it's clearly only a stone's throw away?
Again, it's nice to see movement, but it makes no sense for the two ships to be orbiting the station, instead of just stopping. Kirk himself says 'hovering', not 'orbiting'.
I HATE THE BUTTONS. I mean I get it its a old show but gahhhhhh I can't think of a ship that far into thr futures having buttons 😬😬😬😬😬
The new effects make it look worse in a lot of cases, and add nothing of interest in others.
The stars are probably the only real adjustment I'd say was worthwhile.
What's the point of CGI in Star Trek? To make it more believable?
Probably to make it more "accessible" to younger viewers
@@TrekkieChannel Like airpods on a Rodin
They did this when they released the HD version. The contrast between grainy low resolution special effects and the HD live action would have been jarring.
@@TrekkieChannel Yeah, you don't want people laughing at the effects like it's _Mystery Science Theater 3000._
The old effects are better in every instance.
The remastered effects normally don't look this bad, but damn do they suck here. It looks like a CG cutscene from a PS1 game.
There is something very wrong with the star field in this episode, it looks extremely fake.
Particularly the out-the-window views of the Enterprise; those were indeed bad. Was watching on BBCA a couple weeks back, and thought briefly I was watching original. I do like most of the exterior flyby shots, though.
There was one thing that definitely needed fixing, the movement of the Enterprise outside Mr. Lurry's window. Incidentally, the original shot used one of the plastic model kits available at the time. I had one one of those when I was a kid.
To all of those constantly wondering why the computer generated image of the Enterprise looks "darker" than the original model... stop at the section 7:20 of this video. That's why.
Please explain. Regardless, what's lighting up the ship in the first place? It's in deep space. It's dark in deep space! Same for the space station.
betaneptune. Realism? Really? We don't want realism. Since it is deep space, as most of Star Trek is, then we wouldn't see the ships at all. We'd only see their navigation lights, registry lights and any internal light shining through the portholes.
Invisibility would basically be the norm. Turn off the lights. Real deep space invisibility would be sensor (high band radar) "invisibility."
It's a TV show. We want to see it. This dark crap is just that a crap fad. It started when producers started to go to Vancouver for Sci Fi series filming in the 90s. Vancouver seems to like dark shit.
Whoever thought that this CGI crap was an improvement on the original? It's an abomination.
The CBS team who wanted to give the fans something special for the 40th anniversary
@@TrekkieChannel The upgrades of the planet shots were an improvement. In many of the side by side of the ship in space, the original was better. The people who did this forgot the most important rule. Change just for the sake of change is no improvement.
I agree, I'm not a fan of the CGI "enhancements" and would have never purchased the Blu Rays if they hadn't included the episodes in their original state.
This is so disrespectful to the hard work of the original special effects artists. EVERYTHING about this show is dated, replacing ONE aspect and not the others is a slap in the face. I hate this. AND I DO DIGITAL VFX.
The original version is available on the Blu-rays. It’s not gone forever like the original versions of Star Wars.
You make a good point. Clearly they didn't need to replace _ALL_ of it. Like the good shot of the enterprise leaving the station. And does a shuttlecraft now always have to be wobbly when it takes off or lands in the hangar deck? I kind of like it landing straight. They could have left a few shots that aren't bad for an homage.
@@theblackesteyesthedevilseyes i get that but to me its like having your family replacing ONLY YOU in family photos with a better looking person. WTF?!! yous all ugly too!
I prefer the original. The CGI was off with the them music mark. The space station showed up late in the CGI. Also where ever the Enterprise was in the original version it should have been there. It wasn't. The angles should have been the same. They weren't. They cut screen time of the series characters just to make room for CGI effect Enterprise. They shouldn't have. Most of the time the original Enterprise looked better. The space station looked better. But they had to sacrifice the characters screen time to pull it off. Could have been done without doing that. It wasn't. There's a reason why models look realistic. They are real.
I'll take the original - part of the enchantment is how much they did with so very little . More isn't better. Look at the stupid messes they produce now.
What, you don't like Discovery and/or Picard? Welcome to the club
@@TrekkieChannel I don't have a 'TV' hooked up, haven't since 2001 or 02. When I heard there was New Star Trek I actually got a bit excited and thought I'd either pay the extra $$$$ or watch them on the net, if possible or buy the DVDS. I remember watching this show when it first came out. I was a fan since first show, first season. I've watched you, Geeks and gamers, Overlord DVD, Everything wrong with.. etc etc... no, I don't like it. I like Orville. It isn't magnificent, but it is decent, but I am not going to watch feminists take over a beloved franchise and 'woke' it! What I will do is fill out my collection of DVDs
No one could sell a season of CGI upgrades using this episode as an example! Very limited change, and one of the worst episodes.
Original is better than digitally remaster
I have nothing against improving the quality of the original series. But seriously, they botched up the CGI. It looks like the CGI was done as a beginners school project.
Some of the CGI effects add nothing and look cheesier than the original.
no difference in most
Nothin beats the ORIGINAL! 😂 Old tech is way better in all aspects! Takes me to my childhood, watching Capt Kirk n Spock on the telly!
What's the point? CGI effects suk..
Giving something new to the fans for the 40th anniversary in 2006, making the old show more "accessible" to young audiences...
@@TrekkieChannel accessible lol it's on cable I know I watch it Saturday night's but that doesn't change that the color's are to dark .it's still going after 40 year's I'd say that's accessible to young audience, yeah go with that if your comparison is weak .
All of you saying the original effects are better are either blind or plain nuts. The CGI is WAY better. It's not even close. They actually look like ships and a space station, not toys. Roddenberry himself would've like the CGI version better and not been limited by the technology of the time.
cgi is rubbish it has ruined TOS
Ha-ha-ha. It turns out that these furry creatures can be used as a perpetual motion machine. Matter - fluffy tribbles - enters the input of the singular reactor, and at the output we receive pure energy. Gorgeous 👍👍👍 That's why I think Star Trek sucks, compared to Babylon 5. For his anti-science