I always loved to use this race, and the mind-flayer race as a stepping point into the multi-sphere campaigns, and mechanics of traveling between them without aid of spells like plane-shift or gate. A example of a adventure I would use is that of the players slowly finding out about the race (the mind-flayers or the Neogi) finding old ruins of a wrecked ship, which the race /s are trying to both rebuild an determine what is still usable on it. After the adventure in which they clear out the ship of this race/s something activates on the ship that was being worked on leading to the players retreating back to their headquarters. At which point they find that several ships an other methods of travel have began to activate, or arrive leading to realizing what they had actually found was a station used for communicating with other worlds, or a ship that was used to travel the universe an might have been how the world was seeded with life in the distant past. Though I love to use these guys an allow a single, or afew characters to use them as a player-character, though with some slight changes making it more of a sub-race that they belong to. I mean think about it how they would work, some players in the group might be their actual slaves that they work with giving a sense of the party being an illusion. In such adventures they start off on a world overtaken by the Neogi with the players slowly progressing thru the different castes an systems in the world attempting to not become dinner, before they are high enough in rank to gain access to using one of the ships to travel off world.
Well dressed Gith: "The Great Goblin Wars? Silly little Admiral, that was a mere skirmish. Neogi, Illithid, Beholder...... Eldritch horrors from beyond the planes of existance themselves, waging an eternal war across all of reality and even time it's self." *Steps into blue outhouse which shortly vanishes with strange sound*
Hell yeah thanks for the neogi video I’m actually having them come in to my spelljammer campaign in the coming weeks! I would love to see more spelljammer videos....and a Lolth one too.
Dude, when you said "loved being slave to the neogi", is kinda the main reason I prefer your channel over all other dnd lore channels. You don't try to sound like a voice actor or narrator all the time, which makes your sometimes chilling (as in this case) voice alterations amazing.
Thanks :) By the way, that was my actual, unaltered voice making those Neogi god names, I was just reading from my script. Turns out I have a knack for speaking K'azz'jak'n
The Neogi remind me of the sort of monster that you would see in an episode of Doctor Who. As a DM, you have to be careful about how you use mind controlling villains. Some players are OK with that while others resent being robbed of player agency.
Ha ha, thank you so much. I've been waiting for this one. I'm so glad that you listen to your fan base. You add just the right amount of viewer requests, Patreon submissions, and the monsters you want to make a video on just because. Keep up the awesome work, and here's to many more monsterology videos to come!
I don't even play D & D (i did once when i was like 12), I just really love a good story. Your videos are entertaining, friend. Can't wait for a Lloth video.
Another bit of Neogi lore from 2e, Pirates of the Fallen Stars source book: The Sea of Fallen Stars derives its name from an incident 2 or 3 centuries past when observers all over the Inner Sea observed a couple of stars swirling about one another. Eventually one of the stars flared and fell into the sea. Its landing spot was never found. Unbeknownst to those on the ground, the incident they watched was a battle between a Shou dragon ship and a Neogi brood ship. The Neogi craft lost and fell to the tiny island of Lith in the Pirate Isles. Only the great old master survived the crash, and he only long enough to give birth to it's brood. Without umber hulks or anyone else to enslave or older Neogi to teach them the ways of their people, the Neogi of Lith are primitive and, if anything, more savage than others of their kind. Visitors to the small island have either lucked out and not run into them, or quickly became lunch. Pirates of the Fallen Stars, page 61-62.
Recently stumbled upon your channel while researching a bugbear PC I'm going to play. Love your content, I'm subscribed and super excited to learn more about spelljammer!
For these guys, I think I'll go and see if I can craft a new spell. It will be called happy-happy stomper. A big giant boot appear over the monster within 20 ft and begins to stomp on the monster for 8d6 necrotic damage.
I'm planning on giving my players a Modron Omnisphere, a planeshifting Home base and exploratory vessel. The Neogi will be perfect enemies in later chapters! Thanks!
I agree sounds amazing. Some friendly ideas you could use if you like them. Maybe start off with the players finding, or wrestling it from a group of mind-flayers. Then over time of their adventures having some sub-race variants of the Neogi attempting to retake an steal it from the players at times, till the true Neogi begin to come for the sphere. If you make it large enough to allow the players to be able to explore it an find it had in the long past was a relic of the Neogi empire (maybe something from their homeworld). You could even use the clockwork creatures that were mentioned in the vid as well.
It's actually starting out as a Chult-Like Jungle Island in Matt Mercer's Exandria. The island has fallen into chaos as it's sole Deity, Ubtao has left. Without it's guardian, the island is assaulted by demonic hordes. In chapter 1 the players are mustering a force of Hobgoblins and Modron to bring down a massive gnoll horde lead by the Avatar of Yeenoghu, the chapters running from 3-9th level. After the end of the 1st chapter, the Modron award the players with the Omnisphere
I absolutely love your work my man. Well researched and I'm sure thousands of D&D fans are nerded up listening to your programs. Please keep it coming...
"I am pilfering your tableware because...I hurl it. I hurl it with a deadly accuracy. The point is, your boy's a Neogi fork-flinger mother, hard cheese to swallow I know" - Vashgnar the Irritable, 9th Lv Neogi thief, 1999
We just need a good counterpart of the Neogi now. The counterpart could be described as a horseshoe crab mix with a bristle worm and the compassion of a wise old granny, and whom are also monks because the Neogi would hate monks as they have the discipline to ignore their impulses. To top it off give these creatures the ability to teleport from one crystal spheres to another through large bodies of water. You don't need a spelljammer if you can bypass realmspace travel entirely and plays into Lovecraft's paranoia of the sea.
At first I didn't like the Neogi, they just felt like less interesting Mindflayer. Then I decided to move away from the mind control aspect and focus on the hyper capitalism aspect. Now to me the Neogi are the ultimate evil mega corporation. No one likes them but too many people rely on them because they genuinely have the best products for the most competitive prices. So I entice my players with a Neogi shop and cool items like a grappling gun, hybrid effect potions, and automatic ship repair automata. And the more the players spend on the shop the more control the Neogi shop owner has over the aria. And the friendlier the players get with the shop owner, the more likely it is to _offer them a job._ Not mind control, this is a job that slaves are too weak minded to do. (and can be too easily traced back to the Neogi in question.)
Halflings appear to be the preferred food of a number of different beings in the D&D universe. Surprised there is not a chain of restaurants, OFH ( Ogre Fried Halfling ).
Might be a fun thing to slip into, some semi-civilised monsters who occasionally slip out to a black market restaurant serving humanoids to satisfy a certain craving.
Thanks for the like and being interactive with your fans as always AJ I just read a coment about someone whining about how the video has more than one ad know one should rilly care the entertainment and info I get from these videos are well worth an ad I can skip over in 5 seconds usually stay awesome thanks again.
Who doesn't like a little whine with their evening meal? It's topical though, since I just signed up with a third party affiliate to handle all that stuff, that way I can just spend more time on research and creating content, plus talking to the community :)
I'd live to know more about spell jammer, My players recently meet warriors from their respective army's in the future. They all built space kingdoms for themselves, with treasure planet like ships. They were all at war with each other because 1 had killed another and all players were extreamly on edge, they know I always manage to make the policeys come true no matter what. My special skill.
Hey AJ, great video! Had to come watch this video again, after your new Umber Hulk video. Alien mind controling space spiders with Umber Hulk servants. This monster will definitely blow some minds. Thanks AJ you have a wonderful day!
As a enjoyer or spell jammer and plane scape, I say “the big 3 of aberrations” that many in 5e refer to as the best most fleshed out aberrations: beholders aboleth and mind flayers, is actually a big 4 that includes Neogi in my mind. If only they were in the base monster manual. After the fourth edition, people don't talk about Neogi nearly as much as Beholders or mind flayers which is a shame since they are no less interesting.
YESSSSS!!! Thanks AJ you’re amazing! Totally small request...how bout THE Spelljammer? You know, the city size ship of legend? I might be sending my adventurers there in the future and any help on your take on it would be superbly excellent. Either way you make my day every time you post. Keep rolling!
AJ Pickett The Legend of Spelljammer Boxed set is amazing btw. I’ve been collecting physical and digital Spelljammer publications since I became obsessed a year ago. Also did my own conversions to 5e in Homebrewery. Our group has been making a name for themselves around on Bral. Then I made ToA Chult a flatworld in its own Crystal Sphere so we could remain in the Spelljammer setting but still play the new module. They cannot wait to escape the Tomb of The Nine Gods and return to space. And now my task is creating a Level 20 Campaign within Spelljammer. So I’ve been hitting the old books for inspiration. And binge watching your videos for the n’th time. :)
For rules, and mechanics always good to go with the books. Though i will say look into movies, and books that have a very spellhammer feel to them, since such books/movies can give you inspiration that really can flesh out the story an setting so much more with a nice personal touch. It might be taking abit too much from warhammer, but a campaign in which the players find barren lifeless worlds that had been fettle not long ago, which align in a path leading back to one of the primary important spheres could be interesting for the mystery of what is happening. Than later finding that a zerg/Tyranid-like race that had punched thru from the far-realm an is devouring entire spheres could be interesting, with the fact that the race adopts as well as improves abilities of the things they devour could make it quite difficult (an give you alot of versatility in encounters).
The 'Nids are very far realm or zerg like, for sure, the psychic element to that species and the fact that they focus so heavily on mutation are both hallmarks of a Far Realm species.
I remember seeing the picture for these things for the first time in the 3.5 MM. As I read the entry, my impression of them went from “eww” to “kill it with fire”. And then I got to the part about their culture, and I didn’t want to kill them with fire anymore. Instead, I wanted to hire some mad alchemist to invent the D&D equivalent of a trash compactor, then have said trash compactor enchanted to be a *flaming* trash compactor, into which I would mercilessly shove the entire concept of Neogi. Beholders don’t really do much for me, but I respect them for being a D&D original with some interesting lore. Aboleths and Mind Flayers both have that sweet, sweet Lovecraftian eldritch horror vibe going for them, with the latter being in my personal top 5 D&D evil races. But Neogi? F*** those things, f*** whatever malignant canker on reality they crawled out of, and f*** whatever demented cosmic entity came up with the idea for them in the first place. TL;DR: You ever open up your fridge and see a cockroach in there? That’s my feelings on Neogi.
That is great. The whole reason they are a wonderful enemy is that their alien mind-works and biology are terrifying and evoke repulsion within the normal species.
But really you'd have to do a basic spelljammer video just to explain what's up with all the core setting races: mainly Mind Flayers and Beholders, but also elves, "scro" orcs, dwarven flying mountains; etc. Or the way divine magic works, which is nuts.
So basically the best way to deal with the Neogi are to avoid them at all costs. If you can't avoid them, then run. If you can't run, fight and fight hard. And if you can't fight, well enjoy being lunch.
I am doing this of my own free will. #notaddicted #canquitwheniwant #tigerblood edit: in case people don't know i am joking about being addicted to Neogi's psychic control.
I have seen it actually mentioned in print that a contract negotiation between a Devil and a Neogi is one of the most intense sights in the multiverse.
I used to have the old Spelljammer novels. Took me about six years to track down the book The Ultimate helm. It was worth it to me. Loved that setting sadly there was only the six novels.
Lol... He said hay there this is the mighty glue stick for the AJ channel. Nice. Can't believe I missed this episode I had thought I've seen every one of these videos multiple times but this one snuck by.
Not related to the video but would you.consider doing a video on interesting alternative player races? I know you've mentioned a Steel Dragon adventurer in your videos and I love that sort of idea and would be interested in hearing some other ideas you've had.
I always thought Spelljammer was cool, but I never really felt that it could well integrate into other worlds. I never got the feeling that most residents of Toril knew about such craft, or that they could sail away from their world, and eventually reach another that orbits Toril's star, or even another sphere, and find Oerth. It could feel strangely unsatisfying if you realized that Tiamat was going to be summoned, and no one would stop it, or many souls were going to be gobbled up, to fuel the spark of an awakening god, but you could just hop aboard a ship, tethered to a tower in Warerdeep, and just leave this screwed world behind. Oh well, it's still cool! It's also part of what I was hoping for from 5e Spelljammer stuff. I won't just crap on it; I actually liked a lot of it, but I was really hoping to see more Spelljammer-themed examples of things; the Scro (orcs), the Elven Imperial Navy, and their Spirit Warriors, of the Unhuman Wars. A greater variety of ships, like the Crown of Correlon, or Scro vessels. I also liked the other helms, like lifehelms, death helms, artifice and Artifact helms. Regular spelljammer helms are cool, even if it and DotMM apparently couldn't agree on how they work, but options are fun, and nor every race uses magic to the same degree. As for the Neogi, yep, they are the same ick as always. I hate them as a thing, bur I like them ad a control scheme, and sometimes wonder how creatures with what seems like less control power, like Illithids, and Aboleths, control whole Empire's, but the Neogi system feels more sturdy, and able to support numbers, over distance.
welcome to the beings that unleashed the clockwork horrors on the multiverse. As if you needed another reason to put them down on sight. Their gods make an interesting divine foe. You got yours gods and they have theirs and luckily yours like you more.
The Lost Ones, all that is known of them is that they loved arcane, mechanical contraptions.. a passion which became their doom (and that of many, many worlds)
A video on them would be interesting, with maybe some speculation on what might have created them. An then you find out there is one above the Adamantine that is the only one in all creation.
AJ Pickett but seriously why would you use Neogi as a DM when Mind Flayers are available? I mean the “Evil Enslavers” Niche is already pretty crowded with Dao and Efretti, the Drow And Duergar, Thay, the Abeloths, Fire Giants, Hobgoblins, and of course the Mind Flayers. Why would I ever pick the Neogi over any of these other options?
Reague of Regends Don’t get me wrong I like the Genies, I really like the Mind Flayers, Fire Giants are my favorite type of Giant, and I really like the concept of the Abeloths (wish they were a bit more powerful though), I wouldn’t say I like the Drow but without them the Underdark would absolutely suck. But I don’t see any reason I have the Geoni in a game since the Mind Flayers fill the same role and you can easily build an entire campaign around them.
I know this was posted long ago and I doubt you'll see this AJ, but please cover the Giff whenever you get a chance. My spelljammmer game is going fantasticly but I wish I knew more about the Giff
I am a Neogi. I heard those mispronunciations of our gods. I A M C O M I N G. I N 1 0 Y E A R S P R O B A B L Y. It takes like, what, 10 years to get from the astral plane to your plane, which is called disappointment for everyone else. Anyways the point is I A M C O M I N.
Some time in the future the Ilithid empire will rise & fall, then the Ilithid will travel back to the past in order to insure there future empires will forever rise, it is inevitable that they will enslave all once again!
honestly i loved when you got into the language aswell, this truelly was a delve... exceedingly eloquent mad slaver monsters who repoduce by forcefully impregnating their own senile like paracites. yeah, these guys would definitely do your head in, infact they could desolve a psyche after long enough, pleasure & pain and ruthless slavoury for it's own sake, and getting flashed by F.U.B.A.R. every so often cos that would be happening. some poor hobbit gettin chowed down on for days, still being alive, as you start to hallucinate eel spider master crawlin all over the walls, just a constant violating presence overriding you more and more. and getting more skilled at it till there are 50 voices arguing in your head, which one is you? then you hancuff a hobbit to the railing out of nowhere, and your made to watch, you'll die of old age first... P.T.S.D. if your lucky, more like maniacly giggling catatonia. cos think about it? even if you get rescued by an underdark hero squad, at a core level your sense of self will be shattered. if it is basically an N.P.D. mad with gluttony, it has no mental boundaries and you have no mental defences, you are in effect a leg of the eel spider. infact i don't think anyones psyche would survive to long under that kind of an assault. hmmm 😎😈🤔 if only they laid eggs in people aswell. oh my... they're a really well made monster, like the worst kind of merchant you could ever imagine. ray guns would work quite well, but guns that have a grizzly result, like the guns from mars attack, at no point should anything they do not be upsetting. kill a slave with a sword = guts them and gorges on the spilling pile of intestines... just about used to it - eel head goes right up in there! yass! kill a slave with a dagger = light prod, but the dagger is coated with a ridiculously painfull poison so the slave starts dancing in contortions of pain... just about used to it - poison melts their eyeballs out and makes their skill peel off as their muscle muscle spasms break their bones. eats food caually = live faires screaming and being dissmembered on a plate. painting their quills = spinal fluid from some exotic humanoid race, because blood, sweat and tears are too easy. buy a slave from them = they make them break a fingure though their own mental control. run out the room = trip over a half eaten still living hobbit. 😈 *wonders if a type of dragon lives within spelljammer* epic setting, i'd love to know more.
Reading some of those scenes gave me P.T.S.D! I am most certainly going to use the one about breaking your own finger just to test the level of mental control on a victim.
"...kill a slave with a sword = guts them and gorges on the spilling pile of intestines... just about used to it - eel head goes right up in there! yass! kill a slave with a dagger = light prod, but the dagger is coated with a ridiculously painfull poison so the slave starts dancing in contortions of pain... just about used to it - poison melts their eyeballs out and makes their skill peel off as their muscle muscle spasms break their bones..." Why stop there? Why not use the mind control to make the slave to do it to themselves and keep them hooked into that pleasure/pain feedback loop/rewards and punishment system so that the slave is simultaneously in agony and ecstasy as they strive to fulfill their loved/hated masters suggestions?
SI4wt3r They are insane psychopathic paracitic smooth talking merchants as i understand it, not the happy cultured fair fellows of cammorragh in 40k one could actually learn to enjoy such an existance, happy black hearted alien elves are kind, these critters would do better getting a slave addicted to the highs, and stinging out on them gradually while maxing out on the lows, like doing real crack, not a dark eldar dominatrix... it starts out wonderfull... then it destroys your body and soul and slowly eats away at you untill you are a husk... dying without dignity as you misscalculate the needs of your body or the dosesidge of drugs. it's a good sujestion, 👍 incase youtube makes it invisible, but its to elivated for neogi as i understand them, it's "going places" and the neogi are hated by the critters who actually are going places.
AJ Pickett *pictures a neogi slaughter house\punishment room where slaves walk in fully aware of where their heading, how many body parts will be amputated, or if they are going to flat out add to the live larder, as a consequence it is a chorus of screams, not just of pain, but of horror and futile attempts of resistance and involentary twitching and spasms and flailing. as they really all are litterally trying to run away screaming from the "carpentry" not feed themselves into it, but they can't* i can't help to think that the neogi would have something like the ferengi rules of aquisition, but an even more selfish and twisted version, that would leave the most ruthless greedy goblin running for the hills. that said it would be hard to do better than some of those ferengi rules, so hats off to startrek. *pictures a neogi from a crashed ship/boat in spell jammer hidding out in a halfling village in an attic using a child in the house to bring it live villagers every day while it quotes and educates them on all of those rules in detail, to the eating alive of any villager who is not a member of their immediate family, the catch is, as the kids childhood is basically warped into a hell of circumstances the neogi simply wont let them tell anyone that "IT!" is in the attic, complete freedom otherwise save the "lurings", because it wouldn't care. the child would grow up to be its merchantile proxy, even the violent fits from the C.P.T.S.D. could be psychicly repressed and redirrected domestically at members of their own family owing their new found wealth to their now unhinged neurotic and seemingly prodigal child.* the neogi are really good monsters.
How do the Neogi have gods if the Mind Flayers created them? Achieving divinity is suppose to be almost impossible and here they have 6 gods in their pantheon. Perhaps their gods are actually other gods in disguise or aspects of another god that the Neogi have adopted as their own?
more Spelljammer sir. this is something we didn't use back when we were playing in 2nd AD&D So I have no idea whats in it. But it does give me a idea for a world where the fabric of different realms thin and start crossing over using the 3.5 D20 systems, lol, its the one I know the best now. lol, So D20 dnd, WoW RPG, the Everquest RPG, and Star Wars D20. all on one realm. lol, limit of 20 levels, no epic.... NO EPIC LEVEL JEDI! But a elven Bladesinger wielding dueling lightsabers would be a sight to behold. I mean, your pulling from this much material, you have to have limits, and SW has a 20 level cap.
Its funny AJ,i see people complain about sound quality on your channel yet i listen to the vids on my cheap little cell phone all the time and never have a problem understanding you.
What was your source for a lot of this stuff? Not questioning! I've just been looking over my old Spelljammer stuff and can't find anything like this! Loved the vid though. Ty.
Oh there is LOADS of it, first of all, there are humans from Earth of Toril, the Mulan, there are racial groups that are (of course) quite different to the ones we have here, and some that are quite similar. I hope to cover the human cultures in later videos.
Those with neutral tendencies are killed just after birth by their own siblings, their society is designed to not allow non evil ones to reach adulthood.
Voli Jay In one game I was in, yes. The party located a Master during the process that leads to the brooding, we killed its attendants and waited for the brood; once they emerged we purposely rescued any not trying to attack the others. We ended up with a pair of neutral ones and one good one...it was rather odd, but the kind of thing that group did.
Voli Jay Artwork, beyond some weapons and landscapes, is a bit beyond me. As to stories...I do have some adventures of Wander (the good one) rattling around in my head.
Another nice addition to the "burn it with fire list".
I always loved to use this race, and the mind-flayer race as a stepping point into the multi-sphere campaigns, and mechanics of traveling between them without aid of spells like plane-shift or gate. A example of a adventure I would use is that of the players slowly finding out about the race (the mind-flayers or the Neogi) finding old ruins of a wrecked ship, which the race /s are trying to both rebuild an determine what is still usable on it. After the adventure in which they clear out the ship of this race/s something activates on the ship that was being worked on leading to the players retreating back to their headquarters. At which point they find that several ships an other methods of travel have began to activate, or arrive leading to realizing what they had actually found was a station used for communicating with other worlds, or a ship that was used to travel the universe an might have been how the world was seeded with life in the distant past.
Though I love to use these guys an allow a single, or afew characters to use them as a player-character, though with some slight changes making it more of a sub-race that they belong to. I mean think about it how they would work, some players in the group might be their actual slaves that they work with giving a sense of the party being an illusion. In such adventures they start off on a world overtaken by the Neogi with the players slowly progressing thru the different castes an systems in the world attempting to not become dinner, before they are high enough in rank to gain access to using one of the ships to travel off world.
Always stoked to hear about Spelljammer! More would be hugely appreciated.
Well dressed Gith: "The Great Goblin Wars? Silly little Admiral, that was a mere skirmish. Neogi, Illithid, Beholder...... Eldritch horrors from beyond the planes of existance themselves, waging an eternal war across all of reality and even time it's self." *Steps into blue outhouse which shortly vanishes with strange sound*
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Ha ha! Yes.
Yes more Spelljammer please. Thank you AJ great intro to this part of D&D.
Hell yeah thanks for the neogi video I’m actually having them come in to my spelljammer campaign in the coming weeks! I would love to see more spelljammer videos....and a Lolth one too.
I am reading up on Spelljammer so I will be making a few vids on it :)
Dude, when you said "loved being slave to the neogi", is kinda the main reason I prefer your channel over all other dnd lore channels. You don't try to sound like a voice actor or narrator all the time, which makes your sometimes chilling (as in this case) voice alterations amazing.
Thanks :) By the way, that was my actual, unaltered voice making those Neogi god names, I was just reading from my script. Turns out I have a knack for speaking K'azz'jak'n
I know, but I meant like, hm, voice acting? Not mechanical/digital voice alteration :)
Oh! I get what you mean. Yeah, I think years of role-playing sort of rubbed off on me :)
The Neogi remind me of the sort of monster that you would see in an episode of Doctor Who. As a DM, you have to be careful about how you use mind controlling villains. Some players are OK with that while others resent being robbed of player agency.
Absolutely, I fully agree.
Ha ha, thank you so much. I've been waiting for this one. I'm so glad that you listen to your fan base. You add just the right amount of viewer requests, Patreon submissions, and the monsters you want to make a video on just because. Keep up the awesome work, and here's to many more monsterology videos to come!
Thank you, and thanks for all the comments over the last couple of years, I appreciate it.
I don't even play D & D (i did once when i was like 12), I just really love a good story.
Your videos are entertaining, friend.
Can't wait for a Lloth video.
Before even watching... YES! You did it! Cheers, been anticipating your coverage of this critter for a while. Appreciate it. *grabs popcorn*
*dusts dried squid flakes on Popcorn and a dollop of Mayonaise, to set the mood* Most welcome :)
You sir are a master of your craft.
Thank you :)
So unique, good work man!
Thanks fellow Monster Master!
I can’t believe that I’m just now finding this channel! I’m loving these videos! And boy do I have a backlog to watch in my free time now!
He does have great content, it's why I just listens to his videos, as I'm doing other things, also gives him the views as well.
AJ's research is priceless. He really pulls it all together for you. His suggestions at the end are creative too. Wish he was my DM.
Another bit of Neogi lore from 2e, Pirates of the Fallen Stars source book: The Sea of Fallen Stars derives its name from an incident 2 or 3 centuries past when observers all over the Inner Sea observed a couple of stars swirling about one another. Eventually one of the stars flared and fell into the sea. Its landing spot was never found.
Unbeknownst to those on the ground, the incident they watched was a battle between a Shou dragon ship and a Neogi brood ship. The Neogi craft lost and fell to the tiny island of Lith in the Pirate Isles. Only the great old master survived the crash, and he only long enough to give birth to it's brood. Without umber hulks or anyone else to enslave or older Neogi to teach them the ways of their people, the Neogi of Lith are primitive and, if anything, more savage than others of their kind. Visitors to the small island have either lucked out and not run into them, or quickly became lunch.
Pirates of the Fallen Stars, page 61-62.
More Spelljammer lore? Yes please.
We need a spelljammer video AJ! Need it as bad as we need a 5e version of it!! Lol
Tory England I have a 5e hack I brewed up if you’re interested
Recently stumbled upon your channel while researching a bugbear PC I'm going to play. Love your content, I'm subscribed and super excited to learn more about spelljammer!
For these guys, I think I'll go and see if I can craft a new spell. It will be called happy-happy stomper. A big giant boot appear over the monster within 20 ft and begins to stomp on the monster for 8d6 necrotic damage.
Witch Bolt makes for a great bug zapper (mind you, I don't even want to imagine what fried Neogi smells like)
Having used them in several sessions of my Spelljammer game including finding a elder giving birth happy to see this video!
I'm planning on giving my players a Modron Omnisphere, a planeshifting Home base and exploratory vessel. The Neogi will be perfect enemies in later chapters! Thanks!
Nice! That sounds great, let me know how it goes please :)
I agree sounds amazing. Some friendly ideas you could use if you like them. Maybe start off with the players finding, or wrestling it from a group of mind-flayers. Then over time of their adventures having some sub-race variants of the Neogi attempting to retake an steal it from the players at times, till the true Neogi begin to come for the sphere. If you make it large enough to allow the players to be able to explore it an find it had in the long past was a relic of the Neogi empire (maybe something from their homeworld). You could even use the clockwork creatures that were mentioned in the vid as well.
It's actually starting out as a Chult-Like Jungle Island in Matt Mercer's Exandria. The island has fallen into chaos as it's sole Deity, Ubtao has left. Without it's guardian, the island is assaulted by demonic hordes. In chapter 1 the players are mustering a force of Hobgoblins and Modron to bring down a massive gnoll horde lead by the Avatar of Yeenoghu, the chapters running from 3-9th level. After the end of the 1st chapter, the Modron award the players with the Omnisphere
And from there all kinds of planescape shennanagins occur, as the players realize the very heavens are in all out war
I absolutely love your work my man. Well researched and I'm sure thousands of D&D fans are nerded up listening to your programs.
Please keep it coming...
Thanks, will do!
"I am pilfering your tableware because...I hurl it. I hurl it with a deadly accuracy. The point is, your boy's a Neogi fork-flinger mother, hard cheese to swallow I know" - Vashgnar the Irritable, 9th Lv Neogi thief, 1999
flying boat spaceships, thoroughly cool, makes me think of the movie treasure planet. Would love to hear more on that setting :) thanks again aj :)
This was a lot cooler than I expected
We just need a good counterpart of the Neogi now. The counterpart could be described as a horseshoe crab mix with a bristle worm and the compassion of a wise old granny, and whom are also monks because the Neogi would hate monks as they have the discipline to ignore their impulses. To top it off give these creatures the ability to teleport from one crystal spheres to another through large bodies of water. You don't need a spelljammer if you can bypass realmspace travel entirely and plays into Lovecraft's paranoia of the sea.
At first I didn't like the Neogi, they just felt like less interesting Mindflayer. Then I decided to move away from the mind control aspect and focus on the hyper capitalism aspect. Now to me the Neogi are the ultimate evil mega corporation. No one likes them but too many people rely on them because they genuinely have the best products for the most competitive prices.
So I entice my players with a Neogi shop and cool items like a grappling gun, hybrid effect potions, and automatic ship repair automata. And the more the players spend on the shop the more control the Neogi shop owner has over the aria. And the friendlier the players get with the shop owner, the more likely it is to _offer them a job._ Not mind control, this is a job that slaves are too weak minded to do. (and can be too easily traced back to the Neogi in question.)
I would love to know about the spell Jammer and how it can fit into a planescape campaign. Thank you for all your videos and they're all wonderful.
Halflings appear to be the preferred food of a number of different beings in the D&D universe. Surprised there is not a chain of restaurants, OFH ( Ogre Fried Halfling ).
Restaurant at the End of the Universe is a good place to start on this idea. or Rifts Atlantis. half rack of elven ribs
Is feengur likin gud
Might be a fun thing to slip into, some semi-civilised monsters who occasionally slip out to a black market restaurant serving humanoids to satisfy a certain craving.
I.K.R.
If you want your own franchise talk to Niche the goblin.
Aberrations are my favorite type of monster! Thanks for the content AJ!
No problem!
They are one ov my favorite types to use.
I am fond ov using advanced Cloakers as bosses in my games, and other aberrations.
Thanks for the like and being interactive with your fans as always AJ I just read a coment about someone whining about how the video has more than one ad know one should rilly care the entertainment and info I get from these videos are well worth an ad I can skip over in 5 seconds usually stay awesome thanks again.
Who doesn't like a little whine with their evening meal? It's topical though, since I just signed up with a third party affiliate to handle all that stuff, that way I can just spend more time on research and creating content, plus talking to the community :)
Meeting a psychic, spider-eel, slavemasters... Worst. Day. Ever!
Having dinner at a Kou-Toa breeding ceremony.. that would be high on my list of bad days.
I'd live to know more about spell jammer, My players recently meet warriors from their respective army's in the future. They all built space kingdoms for themselves, with treasure planet like ships. They were all at war with each other because 1 had killed another and all players were extreamly on edge, they know I always manage to make the policeys come true no matter what. My special skill.
You got the best D&D vids; and that's the best kind of vids.
Thanks Mr Dinosaur :)
Hey AJ, great video! Had to come watch this video again, after your new Umber Hulk video. Alien mind controling space spiders with Umber Hulk servants. This monster will definitely blow some minds.
Thanks AJ you have a wonderful day!
Always so Informative and always interesting. Love your vids man
Thank you :)
As a enjoyer or spell jammer and plane scape, I say “the big 3 of aberrations” that many in 5e refer to as the best most fleshed out aberrations: beholders aboleth and mind flayers, is actually a big 4 that includes Neogi in my mind. If only they were in the base monster manual. After the fourth edition, people don't talk about Neogi nearly as much as Beholders or mind flayers which is a shame since they are no less interesting.
YESSSSS!!! Thanks AJ you’re amazing! Totally small request...how bout THE Spelljammer? You know, the city size ship of legend? I might be sending my adventurers there in the future and any help on your take on it would be superbly excellent. Either way you make my day every time you post. Keep rolling!
I'm reading a Spelljammer PDF as I write this comment :)
AJ Pickett The Legend of Spelljammer Boxed set is amazing btw. I’ve been collecting physical and digital Spelljammer publications since I became obsessed a year ago. Also did my own conversions to 5e in Homebrewery. Our group has been making a name for themselves around on Bral. Then I made ToA Chult a flatworld in its own Crystal Sphere so we could remain in the Spelljammer setting but still play the new module. They cannot wait to escape the Tomb of The Nine Gods and return to space. And now my task is creating a Level 20 Campaign within Spelljammer. So I’ve been hitting the old books for inspiration. And binge watching your videos for the n’th time. :)
For rules, and mechanics always good to go with the books. Though i will say look into movies, and books that have a very spellhammer feel to them, since such books/movies can give you inspiration that really can flesh out the story an setting so much more with a nice personal touch. It might be taking abit too much from warhammer, but a campaign in which the players find barren lifeless worlds that had been fettle not long ago, which align in a path leading back to one of the primary important spheres could be interesting for the mystery of what is happening. Than later finding that a zerg/Tyranid-like race that had punched thru from the far-realm an is devouring entire spheres could be interesting, with the fact that the race adopts as well as improves abilities of the things they devour could make it quite difficult (an give you alot of versatility in encounters).
I second this aswell, the actual "spelljammer" city ship, i want to know about it.
The 'Nids are very far realm or zerg like, for sure, the psychic element to that species and the fact that they focus so heavily on mutation are both hallmarks of a Far Realm species.
Super interesting in spelljammer, plz do more.
Thanks for this one. I have been interested in adding these in my home brew but don’t know a lot. Was hoping you would do these guys
Another well done video, I love the "AJ" channel!! keep'em coming
I remember seeing the picture for these things for the first time in the 3.5 MM. As I read the entry, my impression of them went from “eww” to “kill it with fire”. And then I got to the part about their culture, and I didn’t want to kill them with fire anymore. Instead, I wanted to hire some mad alchemist to invent the D&D equivalent of a trash compactor, then have said trash compactor enchanted to be a *flaming* trash compactor, into which I would mercilessly shove the entire concept of Neogi.
Beholders don’t really do much for me, but I respect them for being a D&D original with some interesting lore. Aboleths and Mind Flayers both have that sweet, sweet Lovecraftian eldritch horror vibe going for them, with the latter being in my personal top 5 D&D evil races.
But Neogi? F*** those things, f*** whatever malignant canker on reality they crawled out of, and f*** whatever demented cosmic entity came up with the idea for them in the first place.
TL;DR: You ever open up your fridge and see a cockroach in there? That’s my feelings on Neogi.
That is great. The whole reason they are a wonderful enemy is that their alien mind-works and biology are terrifying and evoke repulsion within the normal species.
The artwork makes me think of Dr. Smiths final spider form from the Lost in Space movie.
Now you mention it, yeah, it really does!
Wasn’t expecting to see Lokhir Fellheart but honestly he fits really well with the theme so I totally dig it
I have neogi invading the dwarvern kingdom in my game fighting over resources and space
odd you mentioned barrier peaks i just started running it today
This happens more often than you (or I) would expect.A matter of debate at Candlekeep.
Old one warlock as a neogi spy and double agent... that could work, right?
Man, I would love to see what the details of that Pact are!
AJ Pickett Spy for me or I'll eat your face? Lol
Dang kinda feel bad for the neogi.
At 3:05 that’s lokhir fellheart of warhammer fantasy a dark elf pirate
YES ALL THE SPELLJAMMER PLEASE
But really you'd have to do a basic spelljammer video just to explain what's up with all the core setting races: mainly Mind Flayers and Beholders, but also elves, "scro" orcs, dwarven flying mountains; etc. Or the way divine magic works, which is nuts.
Anyone notice the similarity between Neogi , and Lolth or Driders.
Yes! More, please!
So basically the best way to deal with the Neogi are to avoid them at all costs. If you can't avoid them, then run. If you can't run, fight and fight hard. And if you can't fight, well enjoy being lunch.
Yeah, that about sums it up.
It's been a while, i need my fix
Given the subject of this video, that comment is a wee bit creepy, lol :)
I am doing this of my own free will.
#notaddicted #canquitwheniwant #tigerblood
edit: in case people don't know i am joking about being addicted to Neogi's psychic control.
KaiKai sure you are, it's okay, i was resistant at first. 😵🙂😵 jk 👍
yes more spelljammer please
I would definitely like to know more!
So wish I could put that meme of the Starship Trooper intensifying his need to know more :D
I wonder how a Neogi colony would react if enslaved by a Devil or other fiend, via a badly negotiated contract.
I have seen it actually mentioned in print that a contract negotiation between a Devil and a Neogi is one of the most intense sights in the multiverse.
so this DEFINITELY works as my main rivals for the changed Illithids in my campaign
I used to have the old Spelljammer novels. Took me about six years to track down the book The Ultimate helm. It was worth it to me. Loved that setting sadly there was only the six novels.
13:45 is when the Neogi warfleet was said to have been launched on a crusade of punishment against AJ pickett and all who associated with him.
Lol... He said hay there this is the mighty glue stick for the AJ channel. Nice. Can't believe I missed this episode I had thought I've seen every one of these videos multiple times but this one snuck by.
I'm pretty sure you said the names of the neogi correctly. *deathweb ship lands*
Nooooo!
Not related to the video but would you.consider doing a video on interesting alternative player races? I know you've mentioned a Steel Dragon adventurer in your videos and I love that sort of idea and would be interested in hearing some other ideas you've had.
Certainly.
I always thought Spelljammer was cool, but I never really felt that it could well integrate into other worlds. I never got the feeling that most residents of Toril knew about such craft, or that they could sail away from their world, and eventually reach another that orbits Toril's star, or even another sphere, and find Oerth. It could feel strangely unsatisfying if you realized that Tiamat was going to be summoned, and no one would stop it, or many souls were going to be gobbled up, to fuel the spark of an awakening god, but you could just hop aboard a ship, tethered to a tower in Warerdeep, and just leave this screwed world behind. Oh well, it's still cool!
It's also part of what I was hoping for from 5e Spelljammer stuff. I won't just crap on it; I actually liked a lot of it, but I was really hoping to see more Spelljammer-themed examples of things; the Scro (orcs), the Elven Imperial Navy, and their Spirit Warriors, of the Unhuman Wars. A greater variety of ships, like the Crown of Correlon, or Scro vessels. I also liked the other helms, like lifehelms, death helms, artifice and Artifact helms. Regular spelljammer helms are cool, even if it and DotMM apparently couldn't agree on how they work, but options are fun, and nor every race uses magic to the same degree.
As for the Neogi, yep, they are the same ick as always. I hate them as a thing, bur I like them ad a control scheme, and sometimes wonder how creatures with what seems like less control power, like Illithids, and Aboleths, control whole Empire's, but the Neogi system feels more sturdy, and able to support numbers, over distance.
I love how the spelljammer novels made them speak like yoda :-D
welcome to the beings that unleashed the clockwork horrors on the multiverse. As if you needed another reason to put them down on sight. Their gods make an interesting divine foe. You got yours gods and they have theirs and luckily yours like you more.
The Lost Ones, all that is known of them is that they loved arcane, mechanical contraptions.. a passion which became their doom (and that of many, many worlds)
The Adamantine Horror's first act was thought to be murder its maker and then it made lesser copies in its image.
It is suspected that there exists only one Adamantine Horror in each plane of existence.
A video on them would be interesting, with maybe some speculation on what might have created them. An then you find out there is one above the Adamantine that is the only one in all creation.
Oooo, good idea.
Do the neogi have ties to the uvuudaums? *If* this were pokemon I’d say one definitely looks like it evolves into the other with a Far Realm stone.
Heh, the Neogi language's name sounds like "kick ass chicken."
Can you make a video on the Tsochar? You can find them in the Lords of Madness book.
Neogi: “Because Mind Flayer are too mainstream”
Great, now I have a hipster Neogi pictured in my head. lol
AJ Pickett but seriously why would you use Neogi as a DM when Mind Flayers are available? I mean the “Evil Enslavers” Niche is already pretty crowded with Dao and Efretti, the Drow And Duergar, Thay, the Abeloths, Fire Giants, Hobgoblins, and of course the Mind Flayers. Why would I ever pick the Neogi over any of these other options?
Reague of Regends Don’t get me wrong I like the Genies, I really like the Mind Flayers, Fire Giants are my favorite type of Giant, and I really like the concept of the Abeloths (wish they were a bit more powerful though), I wouldn’t say I like the Drow but without them the Underdark would absolutely suck. But I don’t see any reason I have the Geoni in a game since the Mind Flayers fill the same role and you can easily build an entire campaign around them.
Omfg and I thought mindflayers were bad well atleast they aren't slaad.
These sound like the strixians from Warhammer 40k. But more savage.
So I think I'll use these in a rescue a wizard who's been captured and is being forced to get to our plane so a hive can take over
I cant wait for the clockwork horrors!!!! I loved this video
I tend to portray the neogi as a mix of the Star Trek Ferrengi with the Doctor Who Daleks.
That was some impressive pronunciations, but I am afraid you are probably still going to be eaten alive by the Neogi.
I know this was posted long ago and I doubt you'll see this AJ, but please cover the Giff whenever you get a chance. My spelljammmer game is going fantasticly but I wish I knew more about the Giff
I see all, and yes, I am happy to.
@@AJPickett Hippo people huzzah!
The clock work horror,s which I will get to shortly... LoL! I love you dude
Enjoyed your pronunciation of their gods! That had to be tough.
I am a Neogi. I heard those mispronunciations of our gods. I A M C O M I N G. I N 1 0 Y E A R S P R O B A B L Y. It takes like, what, 10 years to get from the astral plane to your plane, which is called disappointment for everyone else. Anyways the point is I A M C O M I N.
When did the ilithid empire collapsed? Was it during the days of thunder or before that because all I can get is ‘a long time ago’
Some time in the future the Ilithid empire will rise & fall, then the Ilithid will travel back to the past in order to insure there future empires will forever rise, it is inevitable that they will enslave all once again!
honestly i loved when you got into the language aswell, this truelly was a delve... exceedingly eloquent mad slaver monsters who repoduce by forcefully impregnating their own senile like paracites. yeah, these guys would definitely do your head in, infact they could desolve a psyche after long enough, pleasure & pain and ruthless slavoury for it's own sake, and getting flashed by F.U.B.A.R. every so often cos that would be happening. some poor hobbit gettin chowed down on for days, still being alive, as you start to hallucinate eel spider master crawlin all over the walls, just a constant violating presence overriding you more and more. and getting more skilled at it till there are 50 voices arguing in your head, which one is you? then you hancuff a hobbit to the railing out of nowhere, and your made to watch, you'll die of old age first... P.T.S.D. if your lucky, more like maniacly giggling catatonia. cos think about it? even if you get rescued by an underdark hero squad, at a core level your sense of self will be shattered. if it is basically an N.P.D. mad with gluttony, it has no mental boundaries and you have no mental defences, you are in effect a leg of the eel spider. infact i don't think anyones psyche would survive to long under that kind of an assault. hmmm 😎😈🤔 if only they laid eggs in people aswell. oh my... they're a really well made monster, like the worst kind of merchant you could ever imagine. ray guns would work quite well, but guns that have a grizzly result, like the guns from mars attack, at no point should anything they do not be upsetting. kill a slave with a sword = guts them and gorges on the spilling pile of intestines... just about used to it - eel head goes right up in there! yass! kill a slave with a dagger = light prod, but the dagger is coated with a ridiculously painfull poison so the slave starts dancing in contortions of pain... just about used to it - poison melts their eyeballs out and makes their skill peel off as their muscle muscle spasms break their bones. eats food caually = live faires screaming and being dissmembered on a plate. painting their quills = spinal fluid from some exotic humanoid race, because blood, sweat and tears are too easy. buy a slave from them = they make them break a fingure though their own mental control. run out the room = trip over a half eaten still living hobbit. 😈 *wonders if a type of dragon lives within spelljammer* epic setting, i'd love to know more.
Reading some of those scenes gave me P.T.S.D! I am most certainly going to use the one about breaking your own finger just to test the level of mental control on a victim.
"...kill a slave with a sword = guts them and gorges on the spilling pile of intestines... just about used to it - eel head goes right up in there! yass! kill a slave with a dagger = light prod, but the dagger is coated with a ridiculously painfull poison so the slave starts dancing in contortions of pain... just about used to it - poison melts their eyeballs out and makes their skill peel off as their muscle muscle spasms break their bones..."
Why stop there? Why not use the mind control to make the slave to do it to themselves and keep them hooked into that pleasure/pain feedback loop/rewards and punishment system so that the slave is simultaneously in agony and ecstasy as they strive to fulfill their loved/hated masters suggestions?
SI4wt3r They are insane psychopathic paracitic smooth talking merchants as i understand it, not the happy cultured fair fellows of cammorragh in 40k one could actually learn to enjoy such an existance, happy black hearted alien elves are kind, these critters would do better getting a slave addicted to the highs, and stinging out on them gradually while maxing out on the lows, like doing real crack, not a dark eldar dominatrix... it starts out wonderfull... then it destroys your body and soul and slowly eats away at you untill you are a husk... dying without dignity as you misscalculate the needs of your body or the dosesidge of drugs. it's a good sujestion, 👍 incase youtube makes it invisible, but its to elivated for neogi as i understand them, it's "going places" and the neogi are hated by the critters who actually are going places.
AJ Pickett *pictures a neogi slaughter house\punishment room where slaves walk in fully aware of where their heading, how many body parts will be amputated, or if they are going to flat out add to the live larder, as a consequence it is a chorus of screams, not just of pain, but of horror and futile attempts of resistance and involentary twitching and spasms and flailing. as they really all are litterally trying to run away screaming from the "carpentry" not feed themselves into it, but they can't* i can't help to think that the neogi would have something like the ferengi rules of aquisition, but an even more selfish and twisted version, that would leave the most ruthless greedy goblin running for the hills. that said it would be hard to do better than some of those ferengi rules, so hats off to startrek. *pictures a neogi from a crashed ship/boat in spell jammer hidding out in a halfling village in an attic using a child in the house to bring it live villagers every day while it quotes and educates them on all of those rules in detail, to the eating alive of any villager who is not a member of their immediate family, the catch is, as the kids childhood is basically warped into a hell of circumstances the neogi simply wont let them tell anyone that "IT!" is in the attic, complete freedom otherwise save the "lurings", because it wouldn't care. the child would grow up to be its merchantile proxy, even the violent fits from the C.P.T.S.D. could be psychicly repressed and redirrected domestically at members of their own family owing their new found wealth to their now unhinged neurotic and seemingly prodigal child.* the neogi are really good monsters.
How do the Neogi have gods if the Mind Flayers created them? Achieving divinity is suppose to be almost impossible and here they have 6 gods in their pantheon. Perhaps their gods are actually other gods in disguise or aspects of another god that the Neogi have adopted as their own?
They may actually be aspects of Ghaunadaur. I don't know for sure.
It is very likely that Ao or another superdeity decided that Neogi should have their own gods as the rest of mortal races and created them.
more Spelljammer sir. this is something we didn't use back when we were playing in 2nd AD&D So I have no idea whats in it. But it does give me a idea for a world where the fabric of different realms thin and start crossing over using the 3.5 D20 systems, lol, its the one I know the best now. lol, So D20 dnd, WoW RPG, the Everquest RPG, and Star Wars D20. all on one realm. lol, limit of 20 levels, no epic.... NO EPIC LEVEL JEDI! But a elven Bladesinger wielding dueling lightsabers would be a sight to behold. I mean, your pulling from this much material, you have to have limits, and SW has a 20 level cap.
And no Super Saiyans!
Or Cyborg Dinosaur Bounty Hunters!1
Or Robot Wizards!
*Rifts player picks up dice bag and leaves*
AJ Pickett lmao no grackletooth space knight? sniff sniff
Its funny AJ,i see people complain about sound quality on your channel yet i listen to the vids on my cheap little cell phone all the time and never have a problem understanding you.
Sweet!
What was your source for a lot of this stuff? Not questioning! I've just been looking over my old Spelljammer stuff and can't find anything like this!
Loved the vid though. Ty.
Have you checked Dragon magazines?
@@AJPickett No. Was there an 'ecology of the Neogi' somewhere?
@@misomiso8228 yep
Is there any special lore surrounding humans?
I mean, even if they do seem a bit vanilla, I never hear too much faerun history/origins.
Lack of it. Humans are just wide spread race which is influenced by everything. Their main racial characteristic is their diversity.
Oh there is LOADS of it, first of all, there are humans from Earth of Toril, the Mulan, there are racial groups that are (of course) quite different to the ones we have here, and some that are quite similar. I hope to cover the human cultures in later videos.
PS. Loving your content btw
Throw some more likes on AJ..!!
So how hard was it to try and pronounce things in Neogi?
Oh that is just me talking in my sleep.
No wonder the milk in the glass beside my bed goes sour overnight.
Terrifying
Nice AJ very nice. What's with the two thumbs down tho...wtf!!
I have a dedicated anti-fan club it seems :)
Oooh! These are fun!
Aw hell... _These guys._
I can't quite hear the Neogi cousin. Is it "Sou" ?
didn't see the video on the clockwork horrors, are they included in another video possibly?
Hurrah! :D
Have their ever been any neutral ones or any that just weren't evil and had to be killed right off of the bat?!
Those with neutral tendencies are killed just after birth by their own siblings, their society is designed to not allow non evil ones to reach adulthood.
Voli Jay In one game I was in, yes. The party located a Master during the process that leads to the brooding, we killed its attendants and waited for the brood; once they emerged we purposely rescued any not trying to attack the others. We ended up with a pair of neutral ones and one good one...it was rather odd, but the kind of thing that group did.
@@nvfury13 aaaahhhhhh I love it! Are you going to do any back story or art work for those you saved?!
Voli Jay Artwork, beyond some weapons and landscapes, is a bit beyond me. As to stories...I do have some adventures of Wander (the good one) rattling around in my head.
Just because they're evil doesn't necessarily mean that you must kill them right away. My party is currently working with a night hag
any hollowworld videos
Setting up my friends in Sho Town mines, with a bit of flavor to gross Alchemy. That'lll do it.