Keyways Machined in the Flex CNC

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  • Опубликовано: 5 фев 2025
  • We're setting up our first customer job in the Flex cnc machine. While the machining itself is rather quick and simple, this was a great opportunity for some training using the flex. The long bed of this mill is what makes it really shine giving you ample room for large or long workpieces. I setup three machine vises to hold the shaft so that we could mill the keyways required for both ends. Follow along as you see me trying and learning new things!
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  • @shadow_stalk
    @shadow_stalk Год назад +6

    THIS IS WHAT THE TRADES ALL ABOUT! ive been watching you for years just to see some different ways of machining and just to maybe learn a few things!!! i am a swiss cnc machinist so none of what you did really applied to me but i was still eager to learn a few things... but seeing you now getting into the cnc world of machining i have nothing but respect for you! im a younge head and always called "the kid" im almost 30 now and im still called the kid... but no matter how long youve been a machinist no matter how much you think you know the one great thing about this trade is theres always more to learn, theres always a better way.. as a younge head its nice seeing some old heads getting into it and seeing their eyes light up and the smiles of how amazing these machines can be.. knowing the struggles theyve had to go thru and to come over and run a cnc machine is night and day! its deff a learning curve and your gonna mess some things up but once understand it i swear youll fall in love!! machining isnt just a job,it isnt just a career being a machinist is a passion!! keep it up abom your fucking killin it man!!!

  • @spkrman15
    @spkrman15 Год назад +8

    My 0.02 and I am no pro.
    1.
    I would use g54 one end. G55 for the other. Any variation on height or location will be mitigated. Example. Dirt under the vice.
    2.
    Use a smaller endmill. Do a roughing pass, measure and then comp the finish pass. A smaller endmill will let the chips clear out on the return pass, more room and it will be less likely to chatter on the circular move at the end.
    There are many ways to do the same job. I love your openness, Adam. Not easyvto do on the internet. Much respect 💯

  • @jimyep9971
    @jimyep9971 Год назад +5

    You didnt learn old school way overnight. This will take time
    but youll get it.👍👍👍

  • @alaspooryorick9946
    @alaspooryorick9946 Год назад +9

    Watching the door on the tool changer slide shut with the noises of the air blast was like something out of star wars. This CNC stuff is such a can of worms. So many different parameters to keep track of. Great work Adam! Love it

  • @toast47624
    @toast47624 Год назад +2

    I just packed up my manual mill for sale. I brought my CNC for my home shop about 20 months ago and I have hardly used my mill since. I have got to the point that I can design, program and cut faster on my CNC than I could do the job on my mill. I have limited space so out it goes. CNC lath is next on my list. I have never worked in a machine shop in my life I'm fully self taught and by far learning to own, operate and program a CNC has been the most challenging thing I have done in my life. One thing I have learnt the hard way is a Carbide cutter hauling plenty of RPM shows absolutely no mercy. I am fortunate that I have not done any serious damage. You go ahead and take your time. Your discipline will save you thousands.

  • @SweetTooth8989
    @SweetTooth8989 Год назад +2

    Been a big fan of Abom and other machining channels for a long time. Really happy for him that his machining and RUclips careers have been successful enough to allow him to grow his shop and machine tools so much. He's got a serious high end machine shop going now.

  • @Discretesignals
    @Discretesignals Год назад +2

    Just amazing how quick the machine performs its instructions after all the time it takes to write those instructions. Thank you for taking us on your journey.

    • @keithhasafastcar
      @keithhasafastcar Год назад +1

      Once he gets good at it, this program would take 5 minutes to write

    • @MattOGormanSmith
      @MattOGormanSmith Год назад

      It's a bottom-clenching moment when you do the first run, even after you've inspected the simulation carefully and done a trial run "cutting air".

    • @kensherwin4544
      @kensherwin4544 Год назад

      How long does it take to print a 40-page document compared to how long it takes to write, edit, spell-check, grammar-check, boss-check, and re-edit it? I can easily spend 3 or 4 weeks doing that stuff to get it right. If I want to print it again, it only takes seconds. I started using slide rules, drafting boards, pencil & paper, and secretaries with typewriters and don't regret the switch at all. CNC moves work time to prep time the same way.

  • @aarongarney2118
    @aarongarney2118 Год назад +2

    Must feel wonderful……all those countless hours I of preparation, culminating in the first paid job for this new machine. Beautiful!

  • @macjeeo
    @macjeeo Год назад +2

    Hi Adam, for years and years I am watching your videos. I love the way you are explaining every step of machining details. Your insane knowledge about machining is jaw dropping. In my opinion you are a very tough learner and eager to learn more about the new standerds of CNC machining. Love to see your meticulous learning curve, being cautious, step by step. Making first dummy cuts with your new machine is very wise. As a former nurse, I always worked with people, which is a challenge as well.
    Your channel made me getting interested 0:06 0:06 in the machining industry. I am following lots of machinists on RUclips hahaha.
    So keep on doing the good works, greetings from the Netherlands!

  • @frankcurley
    @frankcurley Год назад +4

    Transitioning between different machining styles is definitely a learning experience. Good luck to you on your journey!

  • @kevinreardon2558
    @kevinreardon2558 Год назад +2

    It's good to see the whole machine shop startup process. Also watching an expert machinist learn CNC is a gold mine in my book. I've been training myself for the last several years. I've had it build my machines as I don't have that much cash (just a hobbyist). But I have learned that there are only two types of CNC Machinists. Those that have crashed there machine and those who lie about never having crashed their machine .

  • @josephcote6120
    @josephcote6120 Год назад +1

    Great starter production work. Not trivial, not too complicated. CNC machines are so smart now. The first one I ever saw in operation was the one my school had for the mechanical engineering students in 1982. Used a punched paper tape to load the cutting program. The demo they liked to give was cutting a small block of hardwood into a bolt. Was amazing to watch, I still have my 7/8" wooden bolt somewhere around here.

  • @markhgillett
    @markhgillett Год назад +1

    So happy to see your success. I remember how frustrating it was when I began programming imbedded micro controllers. The most important advice to you is patience and break away when you get frustrated, come back later with fresh eyes and clear mind

  • @ronnydowdy7432
    @ronnydowdy7432 Год назад +8

    If you had did that job the regular milling machines you would have to turn the work piece around and it would have been hard to make the key way I n line.
    Very precision with the Flex CNC.
    Good job Adam. Looking forward to seeing more jobs and more chips lol.

    • @MattOGormanSmith
      @MattOGormanSmith Год назад

      I've seen Adam do that, and he clocks the second keyway by deburring the first one then using a small machinist's level to get it vertical. That always seemed a little unpredictable to me but I guess it's never too critical to get the two keyways exactly in line, given that the shaft will twist some under load. He does it for aesthetics mostly.

    • @ronnydowdy7432
      @ronnydowdy7432 Год назад

      @@MattOGormanSmith yes you are right. I remember seeing him do that and he had his home shop setup to do things like that but as you remember he had to put a stand on the floor for something that long.

  • @wazza8610
    @wazza8610 Год назад +1

    I watch your videos for some time now. This time you had that genuine feeling of accomplishment I could tell. Because let's face it you've been there and done that with the manual side and this is something new. It's great to see. I'm 34 so I naturally started with cnc machines and very little manual machining. It's all good though!

  • @phildegruy9295
    @phildegruy9295 Год назад +6

    Great job! Good to see you are learning and gaining confidence in your abilities. Coming from years of robot programming where the programs and operations are similar to cnc, once the program is proved after programming, no need to slow it down unless you made a major change. It will always go where programmed to go +/- the machine tolerance for repeatability. It's scary at first but trust the machine. Get used to using the right hand rule of orientation and stick it on the machine controller for a reminder. For better accuracy and easier fine tuning, make each end it's own work object. Then making a tune adjustment (on the left keyway say) has no effect on the other position(s) as you are doing a local adjustment not a global adjustment. For production, try to keep the up down spindle movements to a minimum for speed as well as at end. Try a move up enough to clear part then move to stop position. I noticed that there was up/down between rough and finish passes at each end which is probably not really needed. Turn off the coolant if you can when on long traverse of the part. Less to clean/dry off. If the production parts (shaft) length varies by a tolerance of x, make sure the cutter starts past that point and you won't have an issue if the part varies a bit or try plunge and go to the part end if the position where the slot ends is critical. Anyway, keep up the good work! Enjoying seeing you learn cnc.

  • @JimWhitaker
    @JimWhitaker Год назад +2

    Great to see that first real job go so well.

  • @kimber1958
    @kimber1958 Год назад +2

    THANKS FOR THE RIDE, ADAM.

  • @ryanclarke2161
    @ryanclarke2161 Год назад

    Good on you for jumping into the CNC world Adam, it's the only way forward.

  • @rodneywroten2994
    @rodneywroten2994 Год назад +2

    great job Adam. You have no problems learning thanks for sharing

  • @randymusselman4504
    @randymusselman4504 Год назад +3

    Adam, 0.0005” tolerance in two planes over 12 ft in length, impressive!!
    If you think about it, the FlexCNC model you has the benefit of an old school planer (thinking Steve Watkins’ Rockford) but the speed and efficiency benefit of CNC. Plus you can keep the work stationary relative to the cutter, larger workpiece, smaller floor space in the shop.
    Great video, great work!
    Thank you!
    Randy

  • @GeorgeVeld
    @GeorgeVeld Год назад +1

    Keep up the good work Adam and don't be afraid to show us your path and challenges along the way it is good for all of us to see them as we all learn along with you from them Again Thank you

  • @molitovv
    @molitovv Год назад +5

    The beauty of CNC is that, the first one is the hardest, now you can do 100 more, way faster than with manual machines

  • @bernardwill7196
    @bernardwill7196 Год назад +2

    You can be proud of that customer work. You do allright . Greetings from germany.

  • @billdoodson4232
    @billdoodson4232 Год назад +1

    Really good to see a proper if simple job on that machine. Hopefully we will be seeing a lot more over the coming months.

  • @bcbloc02
    @bcbloc02 Год назад +3

    That huge table is awesome!

  • @paulsullivan6392
    @paulsullivan6392 Год назад +2

    What a pleasure it is to join your journey into 21st century CNC machining. Do not sell yourself short. You are catching on and doing well. Keep truckin'. I am sure your Grandfather and Dad are watching your progress and are very proud of you.

  • @stabilini
    @stabilini Год назад +2

    Really nice to see all your progress over the last years !!!

  • @fredinit
    @fredinit Год назад +5

    Adam, Been watching you since you were at Motion. Chips are chips. Be CNC, or manual. Best thing - you are getting to know both! Learning is a journey - not a destination.

  • @blueovaltrucker
    @blueovaltrucker Год назад +5

    Just a thought....for your future projects on the flex or your miltronic, make a big set of heavy duty V-blocks for your shop.

  • @alanbrown4446
    @alanbrown4446 Год назад +1

    Amazing how that machine can maintain such close tolerances over an enormous length like that. Foundations must be something special and must have taken ages and great care to line the machine up. Look forward to seeing the next job. Many thanks for sharing your learning experience with us.

  • @aoiattentiononinvention8031
    @aoiattentiononinvention8031 Год назад

    I'm learning from you as I go through your videos. Thank you. Keep doing what you are doing

  • @powerq21
    @powerq21 Год назад +4

    Adam, thanks for this. Please don't feel bad about showing or explaining things that you think are simple or elementary, because many of us, including me, are CNC novices and are on this new CNC journey with you, for the first time, so it's great to see every step explained and shown. I must say that up to this point, it's been an amazing and real eye-opening change as to what is out there and what is possible. Before I got a taste of CNC through your entry into the area, I thought that DRO was state of the art...😀 Many thanks again, and please keep on doing this exactly as you have been! 🙏🙏

    • @RyanDoesAll
      @RyanDoesAll Год назад +1

      Although I am on the other side of the coin, I’m glad that this is helping upcoming CNC programmers on their journey. Nice comment.

  • @jimdean7335
    @jimdean7335 Год назад +5

    I think a lot of the larger shops have seperate roles for set up, programming and operating of these machines. You are climbing the learning curve on all three at the same time. Not an easy task. Plus you are creating content at the same time. Wow.

  • @yambo59
    @yambo59 Год назад +8

    Kudo's to Adam for leaving his comfort zone & learning a whole new realm of machine work

    • @twin2482
      @twin2482 Год назад

      This is like learning a new language.

    • @yambo59
      @yambo59 Год назад

      I agree greek to me, long time viewer of Adam but have to admit I like watching manual work better but CNC is where Adam feels he needs to be in his new shop and its the present and future for many shops now--- but ive found after watching a number of automated CNC shops it gets kinda boring as most of the skill is taken from the hands and experience of the machinist and placed on software and keypad etc.

  • @mdvener
    @mdvener Год назад

    A learning process, with patience. Looking very good. Your a smart man. You will learn your new machines. Trial n error. We learn more from our mistakes. You'll get down like the back of your hand. Looks good 👍. Everything you do is always precise. Thank you for everything you share.

  • @FlexMachineTools
    @FlexMachineTools Год назад +4

    Looking good, Adam! We're so grateful for the opportunity to be a part of your journey as you take the steps into CNC machining!

    • @thesaac5985
      @thesaac5985 Год назад

      @@ptv1250 I think the guy clearly has enough jobs to keep him busy. He doesn't need to learn how to program a CNC when he's built his career and following from manual machining. But the fact that he's taking the time to learn new things at this point in his career is something to applaud instead of making snide comments about how he's not learning fast enough.

    • @colinfahidi9983
      @colinfahidi9983 Год назад

      Are you going to let him keep it? :)

  • @nighteyergbg
    @nighteyergbg Год назад +3

    the FlexCNC is great. 🤩
    i hope to see some other big parts on the machine soon.

  • @lesgaal4017
    @lesgaal4017 Год назад +7

    Well done Adam it not easy when all of your working life you've done everything by hand and measure with a micrometer and block gauges. But remember the young Machinests have trouble trying to learn the old way of machineing. Step by step mate your doing fine. Australia

  • @AaronEngineering
    @AaronEngineering Год назад +3

    Great seeing that big Flex CNC up and running. I can hear it in your voice how happy you are with it. Cheers 🍻, Aaron

  • @vanceking4866
    @vanceking4866 Год назад +4

    I have absolutely no machinist background at all but I've been subscribed to your channel for years. You and Abby seems like great people!

  • @fricky11111
    @fricky11111 Год назад +5

    Man I am suitably impressed with the shop development...good video.

  • @TedRoza
    @TedRoza Год назад +2

    G'day Adam. Your very lucky to have had a long test solid steel shaft to check & adjust the settings for the final job finish. Well done will look forward to see your future jobs

  • @legend7ify
    @legend7ify Год назад +1

    .............G'day Adam,
    I very much enjoyed your learning experience. Thank you for sharing the process to achieve that great result.
    Yours fraternally,
    Malcolm.

  • @larry3064
    @larry3064 Год назад +2

    Very nice. Heck of a lot easier than doing it on a manual mill. Thanks for sharing.

  • @kennymiller4428
    @kennymiller4428 Год назад +1

    My company purchased the 40-06 G series. When I did my training on this brand machine you were actually at the facility the day we finished.
    You are definitely headed in the right direction. Having been in this trade nearly 40 years, I have learned you never stop learning.
    The issue with your depth being to deep may be that the probe you are using possibly isn't correct Z height in your tool table. I am using the digital model of the same unit and I had to play around with that to get it to be reliable.
    Happy Machining Abom79

  • @anthonyrivers8395
    @anthonyrivers8395 Год назад +2

    Ur shop looks remarkable. Can’t wait 4 more work to walk in the door.

  • @htral
    @htral Год назад +3

    Been waiting to see you start doing stuff in the wonder shop

  • @Zayda0221
    @Zayda0221 Год назад +1

    Much love all the way from South Africa🇿🇦

  • @MsMoose1979
    @MsMoose1979 Год назад +9

    Question your inspection technique for depth. Should the depth not be measured from top of the OD instead of flat across the two remaining surfaces after cutting the key?

    • @anthonyrivers8395
      @anthonyrivers8395 Год назад +2

      Good question.!?

    • @spikeypineapple552
      @spikeypineapple552 Год назад +2

      Yeah, it should be. But I always measure like that because it gives you a bit of bonus clearance :)

    • @imademonistthingy
      @imademonistthingy Год назад +3

      Yeah if he's not trolling with that, I really question his abilities as a machinist.
      I did a little math, and on an Ø40 shaft, with a 10*5mm keyway, this technique would give you about 13% error in measurement. May aswell do it by eye at that point.

    • @mungtor
      @mungtor Год назад

      Pull out your copy of Machinery's Handbook, and then you tell us how to measure the depth.

    • @ElectricGears
      @ElectricGears Год назад

      That's an excellent question. From an ideal geometric perspective you can measure from across the points to bottom of the key-way, but of course you will get a different value* then if you measured from the (now missing) outer diameter. As long as you account for that, either way is fine. From a practical standpoint it would be better to measure from the OD, because when you measure from the intersection points, the value is also influenced by deviations in the width. And depending on how wide the slot is, a very small deviation in width could have a large influence in the measured depth.
      However, from a practical and historical standpoint, that's how key-way depth has always been measured and how it's often specified in drawings. Mostly because it's easy to measure that way. It's an acceptable method because key-way depth should never be a critical dimension. Keys should always have clearance and never be a tight fit in this radial direction. They are only a tight fit in the width.
      * From the Machinery's Handbook the formula is M = ½(D - √(D² - W²)), where D is the shaft diameter, W is the key width, and M is the difference between then OD and the intersection points. For the specified depth you must feed down an additional M if you touch off from the surface of the shaft. Today, this seems more complicated for a CNC setup but for manual machines without a DRO it isn't. On a fully manual machine (such as in Ye Olde Times) if you wanted a depth of 0.250" you approximately touch off on the top of the shaft and make a 0.200" depth cut. Then you zero the Z axis dial. Now you measure the actual depth with a depth micrometer as Adam did. You subtract the measured depth from 0.250" and that is the number you turn the hand wheel to to make the final cut.

  • @angelramos-2005
    @angelramos-2005 Год назад +1

    Excellent work,Adam.Thank you.

  • @francisschweitzer8431
    @francisschweitzer8431 Год назад +3

    Cool… nice to see a revenue job in the FLEX CNC…
    Huge benefits of having a long bed.
    A MANUAL MILL on that part… can you imagine the set up.. the supports and THEN YOU HAVE TO 180° and redo everything
    TRUST YOUR SETUP!! start turning chips into dollars.

    • @raymanzi1829
      @raymanzi1829 Год назад +2

      Honestly.....I think he'd be much faster doing manual for a one off. The payoff comes when you have to do some quantity of the same part. The setup on the CNC takes longer, but once you have it dialed in, repeating the op pays off for the setup time. JMO

    • @garywoodard5759
      @garywoodard5759 Год назад +1

      back in the day as a young man working in sawmills, long shafts were routinely keyed the entire length to accommodate sprocket placement at random spacing, such as the 'green chain'. we used a portable electric powered key-cutter that clamped to the shaft and performed the cut about a foot at a time, move the setup, repeat. CNC? whats that???
      welcome to the 21st century - get used to it, right?

  • @bmxdude1995
    @bmxdude1995 Год назад

    Thanks Adam for always sharing you journey

  • @seancollins9745
    @seancollins9745 Год назад +2

    just one of the amazing things you can do with a giant CNC machine !! congrats, I am wrapping up the rebuild of my 1979 Cincinnati Milacron Cinturn, just some final debugging and adjustments. !!! keep sending the knowledge man. !! I tried a few coolants, try Oemeta 875, stuff is awesome !

  • @mtnbiker4480
    @mtnbiker4480 Год назад

    Loving the work envelope on the Flex. That thing will do some serious work!

  • @RobertKohut
    @RobertKohut Год назад +1

    Cool. Pretty exciting for just a couple of keyways...🙂

  • @christophercastor6666
    @christophercastor6666 Год назад +1

    Thank you! I am teaching STEM (Robotics, Engineering, and Manufacturing) at the high school level. I’m writing new course layouts for each to modernize the education our students need to be successful going to college or straight to work. I am fighting tooth and nail to obtain some metal machining equipment, but I can’t afford manual mini mills and lathes let alone CNC machines. I watch the videos you produce because machining requires such adept attention to detail and the tidbits of gold that you drop every day are absolutely priceless!
    My motto is “Make Cool Stuff With the Stuff You’ve Got”. We do our best not letting our under equipped classrooms stand in the way, but man would it be a dream come true to apply our Fusion 360 practice on actual industrial equipment.
    Adam you are an inspiration and a phenomenal educator. I’m grateful for your generosity and wish you all the success you have certainly earned.

    • @genefogarty5395
      @genefogarty5395 Год назад +1

      No state college run STEM incubators? Here in NY the kids travel after school, like a BOCES program but run and funded by SUNY.

  • @westonotsew
    @westonotsew Год назад +2

    Really interesting watching your learning process and progress. It's always a pleasure to see people push themselves outside their comfort zone and gain new skills, very inspiring. Top stuff.

  • @storetrollet404
    @storetrollet404 Год назад +2

    Great seeing this first real job done on the Flex CNC! The way you test and refine and make the machine do the work - I'm impressed. And - still - I was nervous when the Real Job was on the go! You made it great and thank you for taking us along! All the best!

  • @texascharlie4554
    @texascharlie4554 Год назад

    TRULY AMAZING,
    When I grow up, I want to be a machinist just like you, but I think you have a few years on me. I am only 78 !

  • @teedawg2112
    @teedawg2112 Год назад +3

    Keep the chips flying! Thx for the vid

  • @1903A3shooter
    @1903A3shooter Год назад

    GREAT, I was a bit nervous on that one, first job and all. Slick macnine.

  • @tonyn3123
    @tonyn3123 Год назад +4

    For camera splash, have you thought about maybe installing a small fan of air (only as much volume and velocity as you eventually find is needed) in front of the lens to prevent coolant liquid from getting on the camera? What you did in this video was very acceptable, but I know some operations spray coolant a lot. Thanks.

  • @aztecsec
    @aztecsec Год назад +5

    Reminds me of the time 45 years ago I, a total rookie at the time, was showing my dad how I created a document on a computer. His comment was "I thought the whole point was to make the job go faster."

  • @andyfreeman660
    @andyfreeman660 Год назад +1

    Great video. Just a word of caution. I use the same PPS sensors (the yellow box on the bottom of the carriage ) on automated fork lifts. If the brack screen cover gets dusty, don't wipe it clean with anything but the manufacturers wipes. You can easily scratch the screen and replacements are not cheap. A scratched screen plays havoc with the mapping.

  • @dronescape6515
    @dronescape6515 Год назад +1

    Cool idea for the new shop and project on the flex. You could get a big slab of 3/4 or 1in thick plate and mill your logo or the shop logo and name and use it for a sign or wall art

  • @xxz4655
    @xxz4655 Год назад

    I'm glad to see the chips flying on this job and also see the progress u have made on cnc tech keep it up abomb

  • @buddbuilt
    @buddbuilt Год назад +1

    Great work Adam COOL Machine! Nice to see you like the TrimSol as well we just switched to the 692 from them and it has been great!!!

  • @keithlambell1970
    @keithlambell1970 Год назад +2

    Great to see the reason for having such a large bed on the CNC. Great to learn new things.

  • @chrisspeer8106
    @chrisspeer8106 Год назад +1

    I really admire how hard you are working on learning CNC machining and enjoying your videos. It is certainly a long road for anyone to go from manual to automated machining.

  • @jjbode1
    @jjbode1 Год назад +1

    No skill beats manual machining but this is still very interesting. Thanks for your willingness to learn and share.

  • @geraldgepes
    @geraldgepes Год назад +7

    Adam, it's been a while, man! I've had a busy couple years here bouncing up and down the East Coast and getting back to school. As such, my youtube viewing pretty much dropped off entirely. Imagine my surprise to come back and see the rumored new shop fully set up and with some nice looking new machines! I'm glad to see it's worked out well for you. As for diving into the CNC world, it's definitely a smart move and getting a similar mill is on the goals list in the next 3-5 years.
    I don't know how much advice you're looking for from the crowd but there's a few things the past couple years of job shopping have taught me in regards to CNC machining. The first that comes to mind in your case is to trust your manual machinist instincts. CAM loves to run a 3/8" cutter at 5k rpm but I get really sick of hearing that squeal. We did a ton of very similar shafts in 316, 400 series and some exotic stuff like Carpenter 20. After a bit, I quit trying to push for cutting speed, the extra 30 seconds isn't eating the margins in a job shop. Slowed the cutters down to a more normal 1800-2500rpm range depending, backed off the feeds a bit and let it run smooth. Ya' know what? I stopped chasing those wear offsets all the time as soon as I did. I'd venture to guess that you get a lot less cutter wear on jobs like this and a lot more deflection, especially at higher speeds. Solid carbide endmills are awesome and typically pretty stiff but, they can act elastic at speed.
    Now, when you get into doing some of those larger milling jobs, I can't recommend high feed milling enough. I got sick of changing tools all the time and found a Tungaloy 5/8" high feed mill laying around. Holy cow, I could dance that thing around at 40-60ipm and .05" depth of cuts like a normal face mill but, twice as fast. And the inserts just don't care what you're cutting as long as you're climbing. I got like 30 some pieces pocket milling in 01. So I guess I mean to say, they can be worth the added investment. I know you've got plenty of big face mills already but, if you're looking for an economical insert change and quick MRO, it might be worthwhile.
    I'll be honest with you, I spent a lot of time on a CNC lathe and didn't really come across many revelations that made me think "this makes like so much easier". The closest would be using a little Haas Tl-1 with a Buck chuck on it. I don't love swapping jaws all the time so, being able to 3 jaw and then buck a piece concentric was nice. The biggest mistake I see people making on CNC lathes is not cleaning the conveyor and coolant trap soon enough or well enough. I get the feeling that you're prepared for that with the Sump Shark though.
    On the CAD CAM side, that's a bag of worms for a lot of reasons. I'm not sure what software you're running but, there's a lot of content out there already. I find myself kind of sick of CAD in particular lately but, my degree has meant logging a lot of 16 hour days at it. Get yourself a mouse that is comfortable if you find yourself doing it a lot, Logitech M575 works well for those of us with bigger hands. But ultimately, my gut says, use CAD for the obviously complex parts but, try to write as much as you can at the controller for a while. It might be faster at first to use CAD rather than dry run a program 5 times but, it pays off in making those mental connections. Before long you get a list of a dozen or so programs developed that have the type of architecture or features you want then you can just go modify them quickly to whatever comes in the door. Need to pocket mill something and poke some holes? Need to profile the outside of a part in .05" steps? Just go in and change the sizes. It really helps to build confidence as well, knowing that you need that X value in this G3 and should probably use a G43 program for this and a G42 for that.
    On that note, I've played around with tool height setters a bit and the table mounted probes do a nice job but yeah, a quick shim check saves a lot of grief.
    But, I also wanted to mention the coolant, Trim is nice stuff. I just wanted to say that none of the emulsions are perfect though, be sure to break down your vise set ups regularly and wipe off the table. Metal on metal contact with coolant makes for galvanic corrosion. Before long you get vise shaped rust holes in tables. That oil also loves to build up in spindle tapers so, on Monday morning, it doesn't hurt to wipe out the taper with a dry rag. Maybe a monthly tool holder wipe down, too.
    Anywho though, you're a smart guy and I'm sure you'll get it figured out. Just felt like paying back some of the tips you've had along the way and I hope all is well for you otherwise.

    • @KJ6EAD
      @KJ6EAD Год назад +3

      That's some great advice from someone who's been there; I hope Adam sees it. I was especially pleased to see that you answered the question about speed versus tool wear that's been on my mind. There's a time for maximum feeds and speeds and there's a time to save the cutter for a few more jobs and reduce the noise. I'm anxious to see Adam crank out a hundred or more of something and make the CNC really show it's value.

  • @vrjb100
    @vrjb100 Год назад +2

    Congratulations with the first real job on the flex.
    Nice to see your path into cnc. As a programmer I know there are always multiple ways to get the job done. There is never only one solution. Enjoy the learning path, you can do it.

  • @mrstan3997
    @mrstan3997 Год назад +3

    terrific video Adam, have a nice weekend and thanks for sharing your journey with us

  • @noahmiller1655
    @noahmiller1655 Год назад

    Man I've not watched u about year or so missed alot u done went got CNC machine I remember when u was pouring concrete pad for this build like watching you do your thing do good at explaining it to us glad to see u doing well

  • @BruceBoschek
    @BruceBoschek Год назад +2

    I really appreciate you taking us along on this learning adventure. I'm sure confidence is still a way off, but the only way to get it is by doing. Best wishes, Adam!

  • @charlescartwright6367
    @charlescartwright6367 Год назад +7

    Aloha Adam, When you first started with the CNC bit I thought there goes a good channel down the drain.... I have found myself learning with you and enjoying it very much.. I'm too old and have no shop space left to put a CNC--Anything on the floor. Mahalo for sharing and this old goat looks forward th the next video. Where's abby, I haven't seen her or any travel video's lately??

  • @willjosephson
    @willjosephson Год назад +2

    Excellent shots from inside the enclosure. Well filmed, well machined. Thanks Adam!

  • @nullcycle
    @nullcycle Год назад

    Keep up the hard work and learning experience, Abom! You are an inspiration to all of us! :)

  • @eumoria
    @eumoria Год назад +1

    It's great you challenge yourself and learn new skills. You're so talented as a manual machinist... to tackle CNC and not hate on it is admirable. It's so easy to disregard new tech to accept and learn shows that you understand it's always the machinist and not the machine. You're awesome.

  • @douglassmith2055
    @douglassmith2055 Год назад

    Thanks Adam, trying to get my head around cnc myself, very different to manual maching.

  • @user-ge6hf2xs4r
    @user-ge6hf2xs4r Год назад +2

    Old school/new school, it's all good! Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

  • @russtuff
    @russtuff Год назад +3

    That's a hell of a machine.

  • @edhilton
    @edhilton Год назад +1

    the temptation must be great to set the machine in manual control and do your cuts as you have learned over the years, would have eliminated a lot of setup and learning time. Glad you are sticking to your guns and learning new procedures

  • @Sumitso
    @Sumitso Год назад +3

    could make some impressive fabrication tables with that machine.

  • @michaelsanzo5867
    @michaelsanzo5867 Год назад

    Very cool, and awesome video as usual. Great to see you using the full capacity of the Flex CNC.😊

  • @farmer87yj
    @farmer87yj Год назад +1

    hey adam its been a few months since ive watched your channel ..i must say congrats man the new shop is looking fantastic ..lots of new stuff ..keep up the good work man ..i will be snding some stuff to you soon to get some work done on

  • @jimlangerie
    @jimlangerie Год назад +4

    I remember you going to great lengths to get that kind of job done on your K&T. This looks like a much faster turnaround and a lot less work overall. Yes, time & money invested to get it in there. But the payoff looks to be tremendous.

  • @vintagespeed
    @vintagespeed Год назад +2

    at the end of every program can you run a flood coolant pass over the part and then an air blow pass on the return, then park the tool? would make the tool cleaning/parking operation and clean the machined part in one shot.

  • @patrickcolahan7499
    @patrickcolahan7499 Год назад +2

    I assume that tool wear is another reason to switch tools at the finish pass. That would reduce the wear impact on the final dimensions. Very cool machine and good work on your part. I am interested to hear what is causing the issues in the Z measurement by the electronic tool. From what I am seeing on the screen you are showing -0.0298" greater depth than your desired 0.250". You should be able to eliminate the tool touch off to set zero. I am still learning the CNC milling myself. I wonder if on something this long, if it would be beneficial to tap in the stock material to ensure they are fully seated in each of the vices?Thanks for sharing.

  • @just.some.dud3
    @just.some.dud3 Год назад +2

    Super awesome watching you progress on this journey, Adam. Love to see it!

  • @davefuelling7955
    @davefuelling7955 Год назад +1

    Glad to see you are expanding your knowledge base. You do know that you don't have to actually use a full length piece of stock if you are only cutting the ends? Put a short piece the right diameter in each end vise and measure the distance to the far end of each piece to set the exact length as the work piece and set stops at both ends. Then all you have to do is rotate each piece to do practice cuts and make adjustments. Then if you need to keep practicing you just have to flip each piece over. As far as the first cut being the wrong depth, there is probably an error in the Z axis offset in either the tool holder with the bit installed or the measuring device.

  • @larrymunday7519
    @larrymunday7519 Год назад +1

    It's really fun when you get your first code to run on a CNC!

    • @CullenLorsung42
      @CullenLorsung42 Год назад +1

      He didn't code this.

    • @larrymunday7519
      @larrymunday7519 Год назад

      @@CullenLorsung42 regardless, he is learning.

    • @CullenLorsung42
      @CullenLorsung42 Год назад

      @@larrymunday7519 why aren't we seeing any evidence of that? Show me the model, cam software, anything.

    • @larrymunday7519
      @larrymunday7519 Год назад

      @@CullenLorsung42 I run big lasers and waterjets, and i know what is like to get the first progarms to run correctly, if you just want to be a hard ass, leave it alone!

    • @larrymunday7519
      @larrymunday7519 Год назад

      @@CullenLorsung42 Who ever you are Cl, I have been working with CNC machinery since 1985

  • @bazylek0
    @bazylek0 Год назад +1

    as always all done with perfection, thank you Adam

  • @stanbrow
    @stanbrow Год назад +2

    Famous last words “I wanted to see it make some chips” 😇

  • @MikeBaxterABC
    @MikeBaxterABC Год назад +5

    This may be obvious but I just have to say it :) .. it takes real dedication to the trade, and dedication to learning new machinery. To take what maybe 5 time longer to mill then keyways on the CNC .. than a manual machine would take.
    I think it's awesome .. ands wish I was there learning :) ..I've mentioned a couple times I used to program and run CNC lathes back ion the 1980's ... In a production shop not a specialty shop like Adam's)
    And I feel it would be so interesting to see how that old knowledge would equate to the late4st CNC machinery.
    The stuff I ran was so old ..the programs came on ticker tape .. literally punched holes in 30 to 60- foot long paper tapes :)_

  • @joewhitney4097
    @joewhitney4097 Год назад +2

    Good to see chips Adam. Now you need customers to give you multiples of the same parts.😀

  • @patrickmazzone9066
    @patrickmazzone9066 Год назад +1

    Excellent job keep up the good work awesome

  • @maxpuppy96
    @maxpuppy96 Год назад +1

    I like to watch different machinist and how they each work differently under different conditions, what one machinist does may not work for a machinist who works on completely different needs for each of their customers. Watching one will not work for the other and vice versa.

  • @floodo1
    @floodo1 Год назад

    nice to see the flexcnc doin WORK