I don't get the hate for the 4-cylinder engine. A modern 4-cylinder engine can be refined and smooth. Back in the mid-2000s I actually worked for a Mercedes-Benz dealership and got to experience their new 4-cylinder engines; and they were very impressive. They were smooth, well-balanced and made a refined impression on me. And believe me, I drove older 4-cylinder Mercedes' from the '90s and those engines didn't place much emphasis on refinement. This latest 4-cylinder from the company must be amazing. I really don't get the hate. My daily driver is a 2007 BMW 118i and the 4-cylinder motor powering it is smooth in all situations and also when I am cruising at 130 and 140 km/h (it's loud when I am hitting 160 km/h+). In the US you don't even get to go over those speeds on the highway, so quit whining. You can be sure that Mercedes' has fitted the engine compartment and the cabin with sound isolating material, which will very likely eliminate most of the "noise" from the 4-cylinder engine. At the end of the day Mercedes' is giving consumers a choice: and that's part of the appeal of a luxury car. Not all luxury car shoppers care about power, and this 4-cylinder motor is both powerful and fuel-efficient. Some buyers place more emphasis on features, comfort etc. and the E-Class definitely delivers on that no matter what engine is powering it. Personally, I would go for an E220d (I live in Europe) and that's a diesel 4-cylinder. This engine is the perfect balance between performance and fuel economy. To me that's part of my view of what a luxury car is. If someone else desires more power then they can go for a more powerful V6 or V8-powered E-Class. CHOICE. That's what Mercedes' offers its customers.
Christian W I agree with you, new 4 cyl engines are pretty impressive I loved mine in my 2016 BMW Z4. But... I’m sorry Mercedes does NOT offer choice in the United States... you can NOT get a diesel E Class which I think would be cool, you can NOT get a 6 cyl unless you want to spend more on an AMG which is substantially more expensive along with different ride quality traits. We only get ONE option on the E class, a 2.0 turbo 4 cyl. We are also stuck with eco start stop. A lot of Americans whine about it, but again I get it. I had a 2016 BMW Z4, when I turned that feature on, it gets really hot in much of the United States, have you been in humid 112 degree weather and had the engine shut off? Although it comes back on quickly, it stays off just long enough to get uncomfortable. For a fraction of a MPG it’s not worth it to some. It gets annoying with the Mercs you have to turn it off every single time you get in the car. The BMW at least stays off. Who wants to spend almost $70,000 on a 4 cyl car that makes you uncomfortable in heat and jolts you every time it’s tiny engine starts up and makes you feel the same sensation as the $30k Honda Accord your neighbor just bought with none of those problems and quite a lot of the same features at a $40k savings with to my understanding more rear passenger legroom. I think that’s it too, you buy a Mercedes to get something different and interesting, an Aston owner typically doesn’t want to make an environmental difference or statement that a Prius owner might. Give me a 300+ hp car for $70k come on. 241hp? And that’s when the turbos spool up? Turbo lag is not gone by any means, it’s greatly improved. You can buy any other luxury car in this price range and get something more than a 4 cyl engine you can’t keep running. To me an older mercedes enthusiast, they have ruined the brand.
First! I notice that Mercedes-Benz products are luxurious and can have very advanced optional features, but they are no where near as price-competitive as Cadillacs or Lexus products. For example, a fully-loaded C300 without 4Matic costs about $63,000.
Acura is usually even cheaper than Lexus is price-wise. Lincoln is cheaper than both Lexus and Cadillac. Genesis has recently been coming out with some affordable products as well.
I remember when you actually had a choice without going with the AMG setup... E320, E430, E500... everyone throws AMG in your face, I had a 1999 E430, soft suspension, some extra stuff inside that made it nicer, and a smooth quiet V8 which was I believe 275hp, the AMG doesn’t ride the same, doesn’t have the same seats, doesn’t have the same interior trim and gets a little intrusively noisy. Not everyone is looking for a high performance edition. Just because you want a V8 or V6 for $70k doesn’t mean you want to go to the drag strip on the weekend. You want to get on the freeway with some enthusiasm, or pass a truck on a long road trip comfortably, or go up a hill without squeezing everything out of the engine and downshifting a bunch.
Thinking of getting a 2017 or 18 used a class with Carmax of course I would be getting the five year warranty! Currently have a 2018 Honda accord touring yes big jump LOL I love all the bells and whistle‘s in it! But I think I’m ready for something Lux with premium comfort! Is the format it worth it? And what about the upgraded suspension?
sic22l That's not a good thing. Modern German car brands are a bad benchmark for reliability because the vast majority of their models have awful reliability. Just because something is slightly better than something that's awful, doesn't make it a good product. That's why comparing MB to other German brands to prove it's reliable is pointless.
I can't understand how backwards thinking CR is when they prefer holding the wheel every 30 secs over the tesla's autopilot. And also, you can easily override the tesla autopilot system by torquing the steering wheel.
It's not backwards thinking. It's safety. None of these systems should actually be considered autonomus, you should always keep your hands on the steering wheel in every car, including Teslas.
It looks downmarket because now it resembles the cheap CLA and C Classes very strongly. Unfortunate. Also, why does Consumer Reports care that the engine is loud from the outside at idle? What a non-problem!
It's a shame that the signature Mercedes hood ornament and luxury grille is only available with the base engine. The C class has the same problem. Very disappointed. The Mercedes' navigation/stereo system is also the most user-unfriendly in the industry, it's too much of a distraction for driving!
Guys... what is so hard to understand... when you review cars, it is not your good looking faces behind the whee that we are interested to see. We are not interested in seeing your face while you drive. We are interested in the actual car. faces can show facial expressions, that's still not what we want. We want a camera that points to your steering wheel / front when you drive. As soon as we click we are being served something other than we were hoping to see. A bit like being sucked into a video that's different from what we wanted.
@@sic22l Hey there, noticed that you replied to many of the comments in this video and you seem to be a true defender of this vehicle, as well as knowledgeable on it. I am personally very interested in getting a pre owned 2017 E class but the only thing stopping me is the supposed terrible reliability compared to Audi, BMW and Lexus. I've been a Mercedes fan through and through but it seems the Germans dedication to balance high performance, quality and reliability has learned towards spending less time with the reliability. What is your personal thought on this model's many recalls (15 so far, yikes) and negative reliability claims? Thanks if you get to respond.
This car should be called the E200. $70,000 and all you get is a turbo charged 4 cylinder sewing machine? To paraphrase an old saying, you can fool some of the people all of the time, all the people some of the time, but here is where mercedes makes first class fools of their customer base.
You also get almost 20k worth of options. Base price is $52k. 4-cylinder is really potent and if you still can't get a boner - wait for more powerful options.
I remember when you actually had a choice without going with the AMG setup... E320, E430, E500... everyone throws AMG in your face, I had a 1999 E430, soft suspension, some extra stuff inside that made it nicer, and a smooth quiet V8 which was I believe 275hp, the AMG doesn’t ride the same, doesn’t have the same seats, doesn’t have the same interior trim and gets a little intrusively noisy. Not everyone is looking for a high performance edition. Just because you want a V8 or V6 for $70k doesn’t mean you want to go to the drag strip on the weekend. You want to get on the freeway with some enthusiasm, or pass a truck on a long road trip comfortably, or go up a hill without squeezing everything out of the engine and downshifting a bunch. You know?
No. It can not be called an E200 because there is already one in Europe. It uses the same engine but tuned to produce 186hp which is actually more than you need.
CR's current position is that driver's hands should be on the wheel at all times, so in their minds Mercedes's 30 sec requirement is safer than Tesla's 3 min requirement.
Cyberslug1 His point is that Mercedes' system is safer because it requires more frequent driver involvement and intervention than Tesla's. Not sure I buy that argument, but that's what was presented
so much goodness to break down once the warranty expires!
happy543210 so true
I don't get the hate for the 4-cylinder engine. A modern 4-cylinder engine can be refined and smooth. Back in the mid-2000s I actually worked for a Mercedes-Benz dealership and got to experience their new 4-cylinder engines; and they were very impressive. They were smooth, well-balanced and made a refined impression on me. And believe me, I drove older 4-cylinder Mercedes' from the '90s and those engines didn't place much emphasis on refinement.
This latest 4-cylinder from the company must be amazing. I really don't get the hate. My daily driver is a 2007 BMW 118i and the 4-cylinder motor powering it is smooth in all situations and also when I am cruising at 130 and 140 km/h (it's loud when I am hitting 160 km/h+). In the US you don't even get to go over those speeds on the highway, so quit whining. You can be sure that Mercedes' has fitted the engine compartment and the cabin with sound isolating material, which will very likely eliminate most of the "noise" from the 4-cylinder engine.
At the end of the day Mercedes' is giving consumers a choice: and that's part of the appeal of a luxury car. Not all luxury car shoppers care about power, and this 4-cylinder motor is both powerful and fuel-efficient. Some buyers place more emphasis on features, comfort etc. and the E-Class definitely delivers on that no matter what engine is powering it.
Personally, I would go for an E220d (I live in Europe) and that's a diesel 4-cylinder. This engine is the perfect balance between performance and fuel economy. To me that's part of my view of what a luxury car is. If someone else desires more power then they can go for a more powerful V6 or V8-powered E-Class.
CHOICE. That's what Mercedes' offers its customers.
Christian W I agree with you, new 4 cyl engines are pretty impressive I loved mine in my 2016 BMW Z4. But...
I’m sorry Mercedes does NOT offer choice in the United States... you can NOT get a diesel E Class which I think would be cool, you can NOT get a 6 cyl unless you want to spend more on an AMG which is substantially more expensive along with different ride quality traits. We only get ONE option on the E class, a 2.0 turbo 4 cyl.
We are also stuck with eco start stop. A lot of Americans whine about it, but again I get it. I had a 2016 BMW Z4, when I turned that feature on, it gets really hot in much of the United States, have you been in humid 112 degree weather and had the engine shut off? Although it comes back on quickly, it stays off just long enough to get uncomfortable. For a fraction of a MPG it’s not worth it to some. It gets annoying with the Mercs you have to turn it off every single time you get in the car. The BMW at least stays off. Who wants to spend almost $70,000 on a 4 cyl car that makes you uncomfortable in heat and jolts you every time it’s tiny engine starts up and makes you feel the same sensation as the $30k Honda Accord your neighbor just bought with none of those problems and quite a lot of the same features at a $40k savings with to my understanding more rear passenger legroom.
I think that’s it too, you buy a Mercedes to get something different and interesting, an Aston owner typically doesn’t want to make an environmental difference or statement that a Prius owner might. Give me a 300+ hp car for $70k come on. 241hp? And that’s when the turbos spool up? Turbo lag is not gone by any means, it’s greatly improved.
You can buy any other luxury car in this price range and get something more than a 4 cyl engine you can’t keep running. To me an older mercedes enthusiast, they have ruined the brand.
First!
I notice that Mercedes-Benz products are luxurious and can have very advanced optional features, but they are no where near as price-competitive as Cadillacs or Lexus products. For example, a fully-loaded C300 without 4Matic costs about $63,000.
They were never meant to compete with price.
Acura is usually even cheaper than Lexus is price-wise. Lincoln is cheaper than both Lexus and Cadillac. Genesis has recently been coming out with some affordable products as well.
I remember when you actually had a choice without going with the AMG setup... E320, E430, E500... everyone throws AMG in your face, I had a 1999 E430, soft suspension, some extra stuff inside that made it nicer, and a smooth quiet V8 which was I believe 275hp, the AMG doesn’t ride the same, doesn’t have the same seats, doesn’t have the same interior trim and gets a little intrusively noisy. Not everyone is looking for a high performance edition. Just because you want a V8 or V6 for $70k doesn’t mean you want to go to the drag strip on the weekend. You want to get on the freeway with some enthusiasm, or pass a truck on a long road trip comfortably, or go up a hill without squeezing everything out of the engine and downshifting a bunch.
"(When there are no ceilings,) The sky is the limit" yaaaaaaaas tom 😂😂😂😂
Were the high beams on for the entire video? I can't imagine encountering those on the road if they're low beams!
Massaging seats? Cabin perfume dispenser? Who the hell needs any of that stuff?
it's a luxury car wtf.
Thinking of getting a 2017 or 18 used a class with Carmax of course I would be getting the five year warranty! Currently have a 2018 Honda accord touring yes big jump LOL I love all the bells and whistle‘s in it! But I think I’m ready for something Lux with premium comfort! Is the format it worth it? And what about the upgraded suspension?
Did you get one? I'm currently driving a 2019 Accord Sport and want to get an E-Class, 4 series or 5
Mercedes-Benz has always had a family resemblance
I live around the corner from your test track. Can I take a run down the quarter-mile with my car? :)
go ahead
Its a really nice car to drive
The best or nothing!
Did he say "Steam Punk inspired vents?"
$70,000 for a 4 cylinder?!? Not my money!
Exactly!!
Number monger.
For a 4 cylinder and UNRELIABILITY.
zarbon700 Mercedes is actually quite reliable compared to other German brands.
sic22l That's not a good thing. Modern German car brands are a bad benchmark for reliability because the vast majority of their models have awful reliability. Just because something is slightly better than something that's awful, doesn't make it a good product. That's why comparing MB to other German brands to prove it's reliable is pointless.
he should end with the sentence ..( AND RELIABILITY BELOW. THE BELOW AVERAGE ) i would suggest you to lease it instead of long term ownership !!
Air body control 😎👊
I can't understand how backwards thinking CR is when they prefer holding the wheel every 30 secs over the tesla's autopilot. And also, you can easily override the tesla autopilot system by torquing the steering wheel.
It's not backwards thinking. It's safety. None of these systems should actually be considered autonomus, you should always keep your hands on the steering wheel in every car, including Teslas.
that bumper makes & headlights make it look cheap. I love looking at the 2015 E Class what a cool looking machine
It looks downmarket because now it resembles the cheap CLA and C Classes very strongly. Unfortunate. Also, why does Consumer Reports care that the engine is loud from the outside at idle? What a non-problem!
It also resebles the S class, especially inside.
cuz for a luxury car, you dont want to hear much at idle. only wanna be able to hear engine when you increase in speed cuz that sounds cool
I own this car and use remote start. The engine does idle loud and it’s noticeable before entering the car.
It's a shame that the signature Mercedes hood ornament and luxury grille is only available with the base engine. The C class has the same problem. Very disappointed.
The Mercedes' navigation/stereo system is also the most user-unfriendly in the industry, it's too much of a distraction for driving!
since when is the e class the best selling mercedes sedan I thought it was the c class
Third world countries can't relate
Blue LED interior lights? What is this the Berlin Love Parade?
And no, 3 min hands free autopilot is much better.
You can change the color. 3 min. autopilot is more dangerous.
Guys... what is so hard to understand... when you review cars, it is not your good looking faces behind the whee that we are interested to see. We are not interested in seeing your face while you drive. We are interested in the actual car. faces can show facial expressions, that's still not what we want. We want a camera that points to your steering wheel / front when you drive. As soon as we click we are being served something other than we were hoping to see. A bit like being sucked into a video that's different from what we wanted.
sadly overpriced , no much punch in engine for 70k
I am existing 2014 E350 owner
The 4 cylinder is faster than the car you now own.
Why is 30 seconds of autopilot better than 3 minutes? The Autopilot on the E class is a joke compared to the one on my Model S.
Because Consumer Reports usually values safety more. 30sec requires more attention from the driver than 3min.
Because it's safer. None of those systems is ready to be truly autonomus, they're still driver's aids.
@@sic22l Hey there, noticed that you replied to many of the comments in this video and you seem to be a true defender of this vehicle, as well as knowledgeable on it.
I am personally very interested in getting a pre owned 2017 E class but the only thing stopping me is the supposed terrible reliability compared to Audi, BMW and Lexus. I've been a Mercedes fan through and through but it seems the Germans dedication to balance high performance, quality and reliability has learned towards spending less time with the reliability.
What is your personal thought on this model's many recalls (15 so far, yikes) and negative reliability claims? Thanks if you get to respond.
The AMG Line is awful though mate
This car should be called the E200. $70,000 and all you get is a turbo charged 4 cylinder sewing machine? To paraphrase an old saying, you can fool some of the people all of the time, all the people some of the time, but here is where mercedes makes first class fools of their customer base.
You also get almost 20k worth of options. Base price is $52k. 4-cylinder is really potent and if you still can't get a boner - wait for more powerful options.
Then buy the E43 AMG or E63 AMG if you want more power.
I remember when you actually had a choice without going with the AMG setup... E320, E430, E500... everyone throws AMG in your face, I had a 1999 E430, soft suspension, some extra stuff inside that made it nicer, and a smooth quiet V8 which was I believe 275hp, the AMG doesn’t ride the same, doesn’t have the same seats, doesn’t have the same interior trim and gets a little intrusively noisy. Not everyone is looking for a high performance edition. Just because you want a V8 or V6 for $70k doesn’t mean you want to go to the drag strip on the weekend. You want to get on the freeway with some enthusiasm, or pass a truck on a long road trip comfortably, or go up a hill without squeezing everything out of the engine and downshifting a bunch. You know?
No. It can not be called an E200 because there is already one in Europe. It uses the same engine but tuned to produce 186hp which is actually more than you need.
Thumbs DOWN !! Saying that the autopilot feature is better than the Tesla because it does less WTF !!
I think they meant that it dives itself better than the tesla. Not more
CR's current position is that driver's hands should be on the wheel at all times, so in their minds Mercedes's 30 sec requirement is safer than Tesla's 3 min requirement.
Cyberslug1 His point is that Mercedes' system is safer because it requires more frequent driver involvement and intervention than Tesla's. Not sure I buy that argument, but that's what was presented