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  • Classic Metal and Modern Metal. Old-school recording against computer technology. Will they ever be able to unite?
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Комментарии • 166

  • @bMt5553
    @bMt5553 10 месяцев назад +161

    “Wanna talk about how shitty modern Pop music is?
    “I’d love to!!!”
    This is gold!

  • @octomanf-zero
    @octomanf-zero 11 месяцев назад +239

    That was way too intelligent.🧠You portrayed both sides excellently.

    • @Farvann
      @Farvann  11 месяцев назад +67

      It's easy because I am literally both, the dilemma of Metal 😄

    • @amphibeingmcshpongletron5026
      @amphibeingmcshpongletron5026 6 месяцев назад +2

      @@Farvann That early 30s limbo state. We were exposed to the best of both worlds. From actually buying cassettes as a main means of music consumption to streaming on Spotify. We've seen so much change with music, technology, culture, etc, but don't really feel like we are fully in the new school or old school mentality.

  • @CizerKedi
    @CizerKedi 10 месяцев назад +130

    I love old-school

    • @sleepforever8378
      @sleepforever8378 10 месяцев назад +1

      Nice profile picture :)

    • @CizerKedi
      @CizerKedi 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@sleepforever8378 thanks :3

    • @h0pesfall
      @h0pesfall 10 месяцев назад

      I love metalcore

  • @RED-dx8qo
    @RED-dx8qo 10 месяцев назад +85

    Cant go wrong with some good old school thrash and death metal🤘

    • @cpb9893
      @cpb9893 10 месяцев назад +5

      That old school thrash recorded with one SM47 in the middle of a warehouse with songs about either mythology or thrashing

    • @RED-dx8qo
      @RED-dx8qo 10 месяцев назад +4

      @@cpb9893 hell yea

  • @Marc-f7v
    @Marc-f7v 10 месяцев назад +40

    "If every metal fan would be like you, the music would be long dead. That's what you're doing to your 'favourite' kind of music". Maaan, that hit really hard

  • @SuicidalGrind
    @SuicidalGrind 10 месяцев назад +59

    I use both a real amp and digital plugins, I think both are great for different things, and often the same things as well. It's really all about preference.

  • @borist.
    @borist. 10 месяцев назад +37

    A "good old amplifier" costs more than the entire pc,plugins,guitar combo combined 🙈 I'll stick with my digital shi*.
    I'm with the modern guy lol.

    • @Mp57navy
      @Mp57navy 10 месяцев назад +2

      I see you're one of those people that call a potato a "computer". Edit: I checked. A decent amp doesn't even cover the cost of a mid-range graphics card.

    • @thenephilimm
      @thenephilimm 10 месяцев назад

      honestly lol

    • @borist.
      @borist. 10 месяцев назад +5

      @@Mp57navy The amp that I use in digital version (mesa boogie dual rectifier) costs 1500 euros used if you're lucky.
      And that's without considering the cabin and the mic (let's put also a pedal if you want some extra distortion).
      You don't need a 4090 for recording songs,even the cheapest card works super fine.
      A 3060 it's even too much for the work and costs 300 euros.
      I love real amps but the costs,the space required etc doesn't make sense for me.
      If you have the space,the money etc,nothing to say but let's not pretend that is a more convenient and better deal than the digital stuff.

    • @qerzuk
      @qerzuk 10 месяцев назад +3

      @@Mp57navy most decent amps cost over a grand. For music production a pc wort about 600 bucks will be more than enough. I can buy 4 plugins outside a sale with the spare money and have way mroe options.

  • @Isus24-s8e
    @Isus24-s8e 10 месяцев назад +44

    ''We had our rehearsal room next to a skunk factory up in Siberia it was freezing and smelling the whole day'' 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @T.Mothibi
    @T.Mothibi 10 месяцев назад +22

    Your comedic chops are getting sharper and sharper.

  • @erfinder23
    @erfinder23 10 месяцев назад +6

    To be fair, Pop music always sucked. Doesnt matter if you talk about mordern pop music or pop music 50 years ago.

    • @DrinkingBleachOnTheBeach
      @DrinkingBleachOnTheBeach 10 месяцев назад +3

      City pop is great and 80s pop is great

    • @bMt5553
      @bMt5553 10 месяцев назад

      As much as I generally dislike most pop music, I’m going to have to unfortunately disagree with you on that. But you have your opinion, and I have mine, and that’s perfectly fine.

    • @KindredBrujah
      @KindredBrujah 6 месяцев назад

      Doesn't even make sense. Pop music is literally just whatever is popular at a given moment. If you dislike things purely because they're popular, you're a doofus.

  • @goldmund2902
    @goldmund2902 10 месяцев назад +10

    The charles dickens joke actually got me, haha, it ame unexpected :D

  • @celticfury7328
    @celticfury7328 10 месяцев назад +7

    This aging metal GOD (self proclaimed, of course) agrees with everything grey haired Farvann said...if only I could actually HEAR what he said! 😂

  • @Necronomikyle
    @Necronomikyle 10 месяцев назад +11

    Great video, loved how you depicted each side because I thought you were going a different direction with it. And now to share an unpopular opinion on a predominantly black metal channel:
    I've been a metal head most of my life, and while I still listen to newer stuff just in case there's brilliance there, I find myself slowly rolling back the distortion to hear individual notes. I also let myself listen to other genres of music (romantic era classical music is bad ass). I've come to appreciate how Dark Funeral and Behemoth have evolved. There's less notes and more space in the music that gives it a unique ambiance. And while Slaves Shall Serve is an all time favorite, I feel like things like O Father O Satan O Sun are just as dark and heavy.
    Maybe I'm just getting softer as I get older. Cheers.

  • @gtabgvideo7597
    @gtabgvideo7597 10 месяцев назад +11

    I love these videos of yours! I like both modern metal and old metal.

  • @thakyou5005
    @thakyou5005 10 месяцев назад +4

    You made me feel so guilty about making it obvious that modern metalheads wear headphones. Mainly because the living costs are so stupidly high nowadays that all they can afford is live in a rented flat with plenty of neighbors...
    Anyway. I'm a mix of both worlds. I prefer the sound quality of modern metal but the liveliness of oldschool. No, I'm not talking about your obvious generic "remaster", which is a remaster only in the name lmao. A true remaster is a re-recorded old song with better equipment and mixing, but in the same manner even if it means you gotta PLAY THE WHOLE SONG FROM START TO FINISH without hitting stop on the recorder:) you fools...

    • @Farvann
      @Farvann  10 месяцев назад +1

      Yeah, headphones are great! 😄

  • @dokterkarel
    @dokterkarel 10 месяцев назад +8

    yes, there are so many decent amp sims that sound great in a mix for recording, but when I'm jamming I prefer the sound and "feel" of an actual amp.

  • @enri_mucca
    @enri_mucca 10 месяцев назад +3

    The whole "back in the day" argument seems to me quite out of touch, especially with metal, because metal in the 2000s has produced some of its finest material: Khanate, Portal, Gnaw Their Tongues, Liturgy, Deathspell Omega...

  • @Hateblaze
    @Hateblaze 10 месяцев назад +21

    The main problem with modern (metal) music is that lots of talentless people are able to record and release their bullshit, and because of that really great stuff is very difficult to find.
    And plastic sound, of course.

    • @christinawoolf4320
      @christinawoolf4320 10 месяцев назад

      Amen

    • @dee-taylor
      @dee-taylor 10 месяцев назад

      Correct. And if it's not completely hack bullshit like Polyphia, it's usually some derivative, 'heard this a million times' bullshit.

    • @tromboneman4517
      @tromboneman4517 9 месяцев назад

      Oh come on. There’s plenty of great stuff out there and it’s not so hard to find!

  • @erwancrespo7142
    @erwancrespo7142 10 месяцев назад +7

    The old school is better!! 🤘 🤘

  • @russianhunger8784
    @russianhunger8784 10 месяцев назад +4

    Reminds me of black vs death metal video

    • @Farvann
      @Farvann  10 месяцев назад

      Makes sense 😁

  • @lunarstrain235
    @lunarstrain235 10 месяцев назад +2

    Man , change the Boomer's shirt to Hellhammer or Any other FWOBM band

  • @IngviMcFly
    @IngviMcFly 10 месяцев назад +7

    So resonate with me from both sides 😂😂 man You nailed it.

  • @HeathenDance
    @HeathenDance 10 месяцев назад +2

    These two tribes have something in common: Most of them don't buy music since 2005, which killed professional metal bands. I think the only 21st century born Metal band whose members are able to live off their music is Ghost. Not even an honourable example lol. Fucking sad how so many people don't have the natural desire in having a physical album. CD's are my weapon of choice, and some of them come with artwork that is absolutely amazing. It's like buying both the music and a book.

    • @filipdzero8739
      @filipdzero8739 10 месяцев назад

      2010s also had some great metal albums, just saying.

  • @antondzajajurca7797
    @antondzajajurca7797 9 месяцев назад +1

    I didn't think video would go that way. As an old metalhead, I criticize what is called metal these days. If a band has a guitar in it, it is immediately metal, not rock, hardrock etc. but immediately metal. If you ask your metalhead to name some old bands, they answer Slipnot, Korn, and some other nu-garbage ( I will never accept nu-rock being called metal).

    • @KindredBrujah
      @KindredBrujah 6 месяцев назад

      " If a band has a guitar in it, it is immediately metal, not rock, hardrock etc."
      ...what? The Beatles are metal? Simon and Garfunkel are metal?

    • @antondzajajurca7797
      @antondzajajurca7797 6 месяцев назад

      @@KindredBrujah hence .. (bands) these days, as "today" bands.

  • @humantacos9800
    @humantacos9800 10 месяцев назад +2

    I have Darkthrone shirts older than most black metal fans and they constantly try gatekeeping me.

    • @Anonymous-wb3nz
      @Anonymous-wb3nz 6 месяцев назад

      Gatekeeping is in the eyes of the poser ....

  • @ilijazivanovic3698
    @ilijazivanovic3698 10 месяцев назад +2

    What song is that on the outtro, im guessing its a durbatuluk song but i couldnt find it.

  • @kmerk000
    @kmerk000 10 месяцев назад +3

    despite our differences we are not so different😊

  • @Freezing.Moon321
    @Freezing.Moon321 10 месяцев назад +2

    Does anyone know how to get Transylvanian hunger tone on boss katana mk2 (I tried a lot of different settings and it still sounds warm compared to the recording)

  • @aroundtheworld5555
    @aroundtheworld5555 10 месяцев назад +2

    I've been watching your channel for a while now, and I finally figured out who you've always remind me of. Mr. Dan Swanö. Who is one the most talented individuals in history. IMO, of course. Anyway, I love your channel, my friend! Cheers!

  • @Lotastic_Films
    @Lotastic_Films 10 месяцев назад +3

    First Vince Vocals, now Gregory Guitar and Derek Drums... Am I sensing a second season of 'High Gain'? 🎸🤯 You depicted the Metal Elitist Boomer very accurate😂

    • @Farvann
      @Farvann  10 месяцев назад +3

      😄

  • @thomasmcnamara5929
    @thomasmcnamara5929 9 месяцев назад +1

    I’m 49 years of age. I’m totally on the same side as the older guy.

  • @lordhumungus1386
    @lordhumungus1386 9 месяцев назад +1

    only problem when I hear a "modern metal" frase is that I automatically imagine some metalcore or deathcore or somethingcore bands..anyway,there are thousands of awesome metal bands that,believe or not,started playing after 2004.

  • @GoodSneakers
    @GoodSneakers 10 месяцев назад +2

    Haha! Way too accurate! Old school metal musician who started out with adat portastudios/tape and now loves new technology!

  • @SIayerKFG
    @SIayerKFG 10 месяцев назад +5

    This video is pure gold lol

  • @rorymcentyre8066
    @rorymcentyre8066 10 месяцев назад +1

    I would like to complain about the inaccuracies but....well I'm old and forgot what I was talking about.

  • @ethanskelly467
    @ethanskelly467 10 месяцев назад

    Nothing about drop tuning? Every old thrash metal fan knows that drop tuning is for people who can't play guitar, even though it is much heavier sounding.

  • @jojoplaysmusic
    @jojoplaysmusic 6 месяцев назад

    There's skunk factories?

  • @liliajensen5429
    @liliajensen5429 10 месяцев назад +2

    I’m on team Old Metal but he was definitely the instigator 💀

  • @lurchl1
    @lurchl1 6 месяцев назад

    I’ll bet there were similar sentiments by old swing jazz guys vs bebop players.

  • @pobelix5803
    @pobelix5803 9 месяцев назад

    In the end ALL Metalheads agree that (modern) Popmusic is garbage.

  • @KindredBrujah
    @KindredBrujah 6 месяцев назад

    The amount of people commenting who are hilariously oblivious to the fact that they embody the stereotypes Farvann is poking fun at is lasting entertainment for me.

  • @humanperson3779
    @humanperson3779 8 месяцев назад

    There is a lot of good modern metal out there, but overall the genre has just become so stagnant and lifeless compared to what it was in the 80s and 90s, the creativity that bands had back then is long gone

  • @Hrotriks
    @Hrotriks 10 месяцев назад +1

    A yes the true glue of any metal fan , shitty modern pop music lol

    • @Okbuddypal
      @Okbuddypal 10 месяцев назад

      Our hatred for modern pop music unites us, whether we prefer old metal or modern metal

  • @heavenly4058
    @heavenly4058 10 месяцев назад +1

    I like doing it the old school way I respect the new school but god I love old school

  • @Alexander-km8es
    @Alexander-km8es 3 месяца назад

    I wanna do a modern punk meets modern metal head with you as the metal guy would be funny bro

  • @sleepforever8378
    @sleepforever8378 10 месяцев назад +1

    Real amps are better that will never change but whatever

  • @TheSuffocater
    @TheSuffocater 10 месяцев назад

    Old school !! Silver Play button for christmas !

    • @Farvann
      @Farvann  10 месяцев назад

      Christmas next year 😄

  • @ThalesWell
    @ThalesWell 10 месяцев назад +1

    “If you’re not into metal, you are not my friend” says nothing about the friend status of people who are into metal.

  • @SpikeValentine
    @SpikeValentine 10 месяцев назад

    Nile and Dismember are contemporary bands from the late '80s-early '90s, but lets put it aside.

    • @Farvann
      @Farvann  9 месяцев назад +1

      😉

  • @scharmers
    @scharmers 10 месяцев назад +1

    I like both kinds of music, modern and old metal

  • @alvarogabrielaguirregarin3933
    @alvarogabrielaguirregarin3933 5 месяцев назад

    "All you do is play patterns". That´s why all metal, except black metal, after 2000 sucks.

  • @ABAddonfromHeLL
    @ABAddonfromHeLL 8 месяцев назад

    So basically me and my dad to some extent but he’s toned down a lot now that he’s old😂

  • @nyarparablepsis872
    @nyarparablepsis872 10 месяцев назад

    Fühl mich plötzlich irgendwie zwiegespalten...

  • @HolgerHendel
    @HolgerHendel 9 месяцев назад

    Very good, entertaining. And true.

  • @aguynamednathan
    @aguynamednathan 10 месяцев назад +1

    "Playing to a click, even live, making it sound anything but ALIVE."
    FATALITY!

    • @Luemm3l
      @Luemm3l 9 месяцев назад

      yep, fatality for bands who can not play for shit and then call it "being authentic" if you are a tech death band or even a black metal band who relies on faster blasts and tremolo and you are NOT on time, you will sound like a washing machine falling down the stairs. if that is what you like to hear live, more power to you, but it is kind of pathetic sometimes to hear bands that you love on record struggle to play their own material, that often is not too hard ot complicated to begin with. I wont name any names, but have experienced that especially with black metal bands more than once lol. so a click would actually help a lot of them to play better, tighter and thus have more evil atmosphere.

  • @SoulTearer
    @SoulTearer 10 месяцев назад +1

    dang man u buff

  • @antonkovalenko364
    @antonkovalenko364 10 месяцев назад

    As an old BM guitarist - oof. 😆😆

  • @damaslan2246
    @damaslan2246 7 месяцев назад

    Honestly you are good at acting.

  • @Shiltonstudios
    @Shiltonstudios 10 месяцев назад +1

    "e??? Who am I? Charles Dickens?" I died 😂

  • @jstdust
    @jstdust 9 месяцев назад

    But still modern metal is suck

  • @GV213
    @GV213 6 месяцев назад

    Gotta agree with the old school

  • @Anonymous-wb3nz
    @Anonymous-wb3nz 6 месяцев назад

    Computer generated is not music. Lazy posers.

    • @Farvann
      @Farvann  6 месяцев назад

      It's not Hip Hop

  • @Gherragh
    @Gherragh 10 месяцев назад

    Damn, somehow i'm both

  • @guyinternet2018
    @guyinternet2018 4 месяца назад

    Your project Durbatuluk is superb! Can't wait for the next record! Wish u all the best, bud. Keep it up! From Kazakhstan with love🤘🏻🧙🏻

  • @JoWinters
    @JoWinters 9 месяцев назад

    hhahaaaaa hahaaa great

  • @Lilcumdrop6968
    @Lilcumdrop6968 2 месяца назад

    Nice dismember t shirt

  • @khelldor4340
    @khelldor4340 10 месяцев назад +1

    Was that "To Hell and back" at the end?

  • @TheJoker-vx4me
    @TheJoker-vx4me 10 месяцев назад

    modern metal = posers

  • @edroseptic9442
    @edroseptic9442 9 месяцев назад

    Nice.
    I’m an old school metal guy but I’ve always said that very thing.
    If you think that only old school metal is good and everything new sucks, you’re basically saying that metal is dead.
    … and it’s more alive than ever. Just not in the same way. Music in general and the way we consume it has changed dramatically from the freakin 80’s and 90’s

  • @DeadEndzMusic
    @DeadEndzMusic 8 месяцев назад

    The Nile shirt 🔥

  • @brittgardner2923
    @brittgardner2923 10 месяцев назад

    I like using microphones in front of tube amps with pedals in front of them... But I run the mic outputs into Bitwig through an audio interface, and use a parallel DI to preserve clean transients so I can make drum tracks in a plug-in. Whose ass am I supposed to want to kick in this video? I'm very confused.

  • @mornacaanareiks9064
    @mornacaanareiks9064 10 месяцев назад +3

    Plot twist: the old Metal fan is right

  • @Artiller-rye
    @Artiller-rye 8 месяцев назад

    Both are amazing. Also for modern metal theres alot of modern metal that brings the roots of old school metal such as Deathhammer, Midnight, and Hellripper

  • @MARA-xo8rd
    @MARA-xo8rd 9 месяцев назад

    reality

  • @neptunevibe
    @neptunevibe 10 месяцев назад

    Hello man can you please make a video about Beherith? I think it would be great!

  • @Guy-With-A-Guitar0
    @Guy-With-A-Guitar0 10 месяцев назад

    That poor headstock

    • @Farvann
      @Farvann  10 месяцев назад

      The sounds are post production. The magic of cinema 😁

  • @GeeBarone
    @GeeBarone 10 месяцев назад

    Modern tech has lowered the bar for entry to the point anyone can make music and release it. Nothing more KVLT than that.

  • @itzkool4
    @itzkool4 10 месяцев назад +1

    A nice and meaningful message 😔

  • @LihiLaszlo
    @LihiLaszlo 10 месяцев назад

    Respect the elderly. Boomers have feelings too

  • @deathmetal5156
    @deathmetal5156 7 месяцев назад

    whats the title of the song at the end?

    • @Farvann
      @Farvann  7 месяцев назад +1

      Seelenwanderung

    • @deathmetal5156
      @deathmetal5156 7 месяцев назад

      @@Farvann danke man, starkes album!

  • @barbarianblood2316
    @barbarianblood2316 10 месяцев назад

    Whoa, those dudes look so much alike. Weird. Probably related.

  • @zappasmoustache23
    @zappasmoustache23 6 месяцев назад

    I’m such an old metal head I can’t stay out in the rain too long in case my hair starts to rust.

  • @nordicshredder4128
    @nordicshredder4128 10 месяцев назад

    me talking to my dad as I record guitars with a more complex tone than his.

  • @radeksima2608
    @radeksima2608 10 месяцев назад

    This is a pure gold. But hey, I still use a tube amp and mic. 😁

  • @ProductBasement
    @ProductBasement 6 месяцев назад

    Old Farvann looks smoldering, and I'm strait

  • @Balkonwhisky
    @Balkonwhisky 10 месяцев назад

    Endlich sehen wir am Ende des Videos wie du deine Haare färbst um jünger aus zu sehen😎👍

  • @adrianmartinez-lq5he
    @adrianmartinez-lq5he 10 месяцев назад

    vannfar vs farvann
    Cant stop think about that megadeth sound

  • @bazookaman1353
    @bazookaman1353 10 месяцев назад +2

    Oldheads when the music is near-bassless, the vocals are talentless, the structure is glorified pop and the mix is horrible - 💃🕺💃🕺

  • @ilovevinyl620
    @ilovevinyl620 10 месяцев назад

    This 'Dismember' t-shirt looks so good.

  • @gerbenvanegmond4007
    @gerbenvanegmond4007 10 месяцев назад

    The arthritis joke called me up

  • @Fancylvania
    @Fancylvania 10 месяцев назад

    That's not grey hair farvann, that's Chris Barnes

  • @rytkosenjussi
    @rytkosenjussi 10 месяцев назад

    My dad is oldschool so i guess i am modern fan? 😅

  • @rahmatsumantri6577
    @rahmatsumantri6577 10 месяцев назад

    What song in the outro?

    • @Farvann
      @Farvann  10 месяцев назад

      Durbatuluk - Seelenwanderung

    • @rahmatsumantri6577
      @rahmatsumantri6577 10 месяцев назад

      ​@@FarvannThank you very much🤘Love the song so much🖤

  • @thenephilimm
    @thenephilimm 10 месяцев назад

    lol love this! love old school music but hey I love plugins lol

  • @briannord950
    @briannord950 10 месяцев назад

    I'm old school I love tube amps!

  • @G3E007
    @G3E007 10 месяцев назад

    dont tell him digital drums exists

  • @Einherjar3904
    @Einherjar3904 10 месяцев назад

    The end is just perfect :D

  • @artursruseckis4242
    @artursruseckis4242 10 месяцев назад

    oldschool FTW! 🤘

  • @donaldcosner5854
    @donaldcosner5854 10 месяцев назад

    Lmao brilliant

  • @figu6ka379
    @figu6ka379 10 месяцев назад

    Old-school👆👆👆